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  1. Hello, I currently live in Cambodia and run a bar over here. This guy calling himself Peter Gold, is an on and off customer. Yesterday another customer brought this facebook page to my attention. Can anyone there in Pattaya verify any of this for me, or has this just been started by someone who hates the guy..? Cheers. https://www.facebook.com/petergoldpattaya

     

    Peter Gold was arrested last week in Phnom Penh,on drug charges,now in prison.He also did some very dodgy rental deals in P.P,as well as Love Joys in Jomtein.

     

    Just google Peter Gold Cambodia,and all will be revealed,including his arrest warrant in Thailand

  2. Any news guys,like can he get out and about a bit more yet,is he back at work?

     

    The last i heard he was having lunch in Soi 14,two days after getting discharged from hospital.

     

    Ned

  3. Thanks for the welcome! I thought it was overly priced for drinks compared to other places and the 1000b BF is crazy!

     

     

    1000bn BF crazy?

     

    Mate on party nights its 2000b BF for some chick in cut off shorts,LOL,LOL

     

    Ned

     

    So don't pay it. It drops to 600 after midnight and the regular girls are 400 anytime. Several places charge a 1000 bar fine for show girls, Secrets is not alone in this.

     

     

    Several places charge 1000b BF?

     

    Name just a few.

     

    Ned

  4. Areca will ask for your CC,and will put a voucher through without any charges.

     

    This is purely a measure to cover any costs above accomadation.EG Mini Bar,food,bar drinks,telephone calls,etc.

     

    When you check out simply pay for any incidentals and your CC vouher will be returned to you.

     

    Just make sure you have proof of payment from Sawadee.Com to show on your arrival,the last thing you want is an arguement over payment when you leave.

     

    Ned

  5. Hi,

     

    Recently booked to stay in Areca Lodge for 20 nights as I wanted to stay in a different part of Pattaya and the reviews of the Areca on this board made me select the Areca over my usual, the Sabai Lodge. What a mistake. The Areca is probably the worst hotel I have ever stayed in. I checked out after 4 nights!!

     

    Everything is a drama, no hot water for first 18 hours, sign for towels, collect vouchers for breakfast. no pool parasols after about 1100, aggressive security at night to ME!!, small (deluxe) rooms that are poorly/cheaply furnished, i.e. only cold tap in wash hand basin, no usable balcony as A/C unit takes up 3/4 of it and blows hot air on to you!!, can not smoke unless you stand on balcony!!

     

    I booked my stay with 2 other guys (3 rooms) all the rooms where crap. I understand that this hotel, for reasons now totally beyond me, is virtually booked all year!!! I can not understand this. They asked me on booking to pay 9000Tbt deposit (3000Tbt for each room) this I can understand and accept. I also order taxi collection from the airport. But they then demand full payment of 2900Tbt for a taxi 3 months in advance!! I tell them to cancel the taxi. Sabai charge 1900Tbt on the day, not 3 month before!!

     

    We moved back to the Sabai Lodge after 4 days of the Areca Lodge. I could not recommend the Areca Lodge to anyone.

     

    Anyone that recommends this hotel must normally stay in budget B&B type accomodation or just not know any better!!

     

    What I thought, said it all, was when we checked out after 4 nights no one behind reception even cared to ask why? Surely, if you own or manage a hotel and guests are checking out after a few days, having booked for 3 weeks you would ask why? They could not give a fuck!!!

     

    I will never darken their doors again.

     

    Regards to all,

     

     

    Mate i tend to agree about Areca,its not what it was before.

     

    Ive just come back from my seventh stay at Areca and i was very sad to see how the attitude has changed there.

     

    The manager Nancy has always been a very false and almost rude lady,and her attitude is creeping into the rest of the staff.

     

    Sadly they are very popular hotel,so i dont think Nancy cares if she upsets a few guests,as long as the numbers stack up.

     

    Heres an example of her rudeness... I checked in with a long term regular,and Nancy asked is she your girl friend,i said no just a friend,Nancy then talked to the other girls on reception in Thai,and they all laughed.My

    regular told me Nancy had told the other girls at reception that " Shes not his friend,just his bar girl"

     

    I felt like confronting Nancy but i had no proof thats what she said.

     

    Ned

  6. Crebus,

     

    Heres a tip for you.

     

    Unless youre 100% sure that this forum cant be accesed by any Thai authority,i suggest you get Evil to edit his original post and delete the description of the Hell Club as a brothel and any reference to how much you pay a girl for sexual services.

     

    Not a smart move by him including these terms in his post including a map, on where to find a brothel in Thailand and how much you pay for sex there.

     

     

    Ned

  7. Apart from the hundreds of posts by interested parties and the thousands of views, we have four main antagonists, and yes I use that word advisedly, who relish spending their time seeking out any thread on the Hell/Eden Club and then trying to denigrate either the poster or one/both clubs.

     

    None of these board members have ever used either of the establishments mentioned, but of course know everything!

     

    I have taken the time to invite them to come to the club and introduce themselves, so as to give me a chance understand their anger and vitriolic attacks on something they express no interest in.

     

    I am aware, that as a group they tend to intimidate some posters, purely as many other posters are here simply to enjoy the board and share/gain information and do not wish to be abused.

     

    They have been asked in a civil manner, on multiple occasions that if they are so badly affected by any mention of the Hell/Eden club why not just use the ignore button. The fact that they elect as a group not to simply illuminates their true purpose.

     

    Gentlemen, it is you that are becoming boring, as are your constant diatribes and before you start with your name calling, in response to this Pimp from Hell, consider such behavior says more about yourselves than me.

     

    Regards

     

    Cerberus

     

    Cerebus,

     

    I assume your refering to me in the above post,ad if so let me clear up a few of your false assertions.

     

    I have used the services of the Eden Club in Bangkok,and i found it to be over rated,mechanical sex and most definitely not worth $3600B.And if you care to read the threads on Eden on the Bangkok tonight forum,there are hundreds of punters who feel the same.

     

    I have been into the Hell Club,as i previously stated where i found three or four very plain girls asleep at the rear of the room,and Jacko was at the front of the bar on the left as you walk in typing on a PC,so i walked out.You have said you doubted that i had,which virtually labels me as a liar,mate i dont care if you believe me or not,although my full description of the interior of your club,should have made you realise i had indeed been inside the Hell club.

     

    As recently as last week i walked past Hell on at least 7 different occasions,and i witnessed four or five very plain/ugly girls eating out the front,nothing there to give me the slightest urge to investigate any further.

     

    This is an open forum,and one of the great things about it is that members can read comments, both positive and negative, about establishments in Pattaya,be they hotels,Go Gos,Bars or whatever and then make up their minds if they wish to patronise these places.

     

    As far as having a drink with you goes,why on earth would i bother,i already have plenty of people to drink with in Pattaya and they mainly consist of females,but thanks for the invite anyway.

     

    By the way i loved your little Hell Club sticker above the urinal at LD1,nice bit of marketing there Cerebus.

     

    Ned

  8. This is follow-up to Inside the Hell Club , which gave a basic run-down of what first-time visitors can expect. If you've never visited Hell, you might want to check out the earlier thread.

     

    Let's assume you have some knowledge of the fine establishment, but want to make sure you get the maximum out your time in Hell. I'll try to give some advice based on the five nights I spent in the company of Hell's belles as well as many, many days and nights with the ladies of Eden, the Bangkok club on which the Hell Club is modeled.

     

    I'd also encourage other clients of Hell/Eden to contribute their advice and experiences as well. Each of us has his own particular twist on things and your individual approach may suggest some tips to a another hobbyist.

     

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    Understanding the Hell Club Concept

    The Hell Club isn't a gogo or beer bar or a massage parlor. It's a brothel that features a classic lineup and some guys don't feel comfortable with that. They want to be able to grope - excuse me, socialize and flirt with - the girls for the price of a drink. It doesn't work that way at Hell/Eden. What goes on behind closed doors after the punter makes his choice is pretty much unrestricted at Hell/Eden, but prior to that, it's quite staid.

     

    Also, there's no such thing as a bar fine at Hell/Eden. A B/F is a fee paid to establishments such as go go or beer bars to take the lady off premises. Fees for sexual services are a separate negotiation direct with the lady. At Hell/Eden, you pay a fee that covers the lady's (or ladies') sexual services. Tipping is customary and appreciated, but tips aren't asked for, nor will the service you get be in any way tied to a tip.

     

    I appreciate that many punters prefer go gos or MPs because of the different dynamic involved in choosing a girl. It's an individual choice. What's important is to understand that the Hell isn't a gogo or beer bar and you'll be very disappointed if you act as if it were.

     

    In-House Versus Take-Away, Porn Star Versus GFE

    I count myself among the bigger fans of Eden, but I also understand that a 90-minute in-house session can feel somewhat contrived and mechanical. I don't experience it that way myself, although I appreciate that others can. There simply isn't enough time to establish real rapport and still have the standard Eden session with all it involves. Once you get to know a few of the girls, that feeling largely disappears and ladies become more spontaneous. But until the girls know you, they feel a bit of pressure to fill every second of the 90 minutes with something sexual. The ladies have told me that if they aren't sucking some guys' dicks 10 seconds after the wash up is finished, those guys will complain the girls were trying to "run out the clock" on them.

     

    That type of customer doesn't want any chit-chat, just 90 minutes of intense sex. Also, some guys are adamant about coming at least twice, preferably three or four times. That requires very intense activity on the part of ladies, and again, not much time for small talk. An in-house session is 90 minutes and will never end any earlier unless you want it to. You can come an unlimited number of times at Eden, it's not like the places where if you come once, you are finished.

     

    The ladies will normally ask you how many times you want to come. They do that to try to judge how active a session it will be. Obviously a guy who says he wants to come five or six times isn't looking for a GFE, but one who says "once, maybe twice," is probably expecting a slower-paced session that includes more talk and gentle foreplay.

     

    It's also a good idea to ask for a lady who speaks relatively good English as your "lead lady." That way you can explain clearly to her what you want. The ladies of Eden are very sensitive to the wishes of customers, but they can't read minds. You have to explain (or show) them what you want. You have to be realistic, though. Ninety minutes doesn't allow for much of a GFE, it's more a porn-star experience. That's why I prefer take-away.

     

    The best way to guarantee a mind-boggling two-lady session is to first take one lady overnight, get to know her a bit, then go back and ask her to pick a friend for the two-lady session. Of course, that depends as well on the thickness of your wallet, but what the hell, you're on holiday!

     

    The fee per lady for a session outside Hell beginning at 10 p.m. and ending at 6.00 a.m. (overnight takeaway, eight hours) is 3,000 baht. If you want two ladies, the total cost would be 6,000 baht. Again, I emphasize this isn't a barfine. It is the fee for the ladies' services. It is a fixed price and not negotiable. Don't make a fool out of yourself by trying to bargain. What you choose to tip the lady on top of this fee is up to you.

     

    Also, what you choose to do during that eight hours is up to you. If you want to take the lady to dinner, go to a bar or club, or head straight back to your hotel room, it's up to you. I've had some really over-the-top sessions (all-nighters with five, four, three ladies in addition to numerous one- and two- lady sessions). It has all been good, VERY GOOD. A lot of fun, joking, going to clubs and bars, then incredible sessions in the sack. The ladies who were deep throat specialists have rocked my universe (and my rocks) in particular.

     

    You can read about one particularly memorable overnight session I had with two Eden ladies at Evil and the Angels of Eden, Part 1 and Evil and the Angels of Eden, Part 2

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    What is the best time to visit the Hell Club?

    You'll have the widest choice of ladies if you're there around 12.40 p.m., but the service will be the same whatever time you visit the club. However, it is a popular place and luck plays a role. If don't see anything that strikes your fancy, just say "No thank you, I'll be back later." Or talk to the manager on duty about when the kind of girl you want - age, appearance, special skills, ability to speak English, etc - might be available. But if a lady does catch your eye, choose her immediately or someone else will.

    What is the Hell Club policy on tipping?

    Tips are always appreciated but never requested. At the end of the session, you're free to tip the ladies whatever you choose.

     

    Is it possible to have a session with just one lady?

    The in-house sessions at the Hell Club are two (or more) ladies with one man. For take away sessions, it's no problem to select just one lady.

     

    After an overnight session, can a lady remain with me past 6.00 a.m?

    That's entirely up to the lady. Keep in mind that she has only a few hours in which to go home,and then return to the Hell Club by 1:00 p.m. She may have family or other obligations that prevent her from remaining past 6.00 a.m.

     

    Suppose I want a very special session or a service that not all ladies provide. How do I arrange that?

    Speak with a member of the Hell management about your wishes before choosing your ladies. That way, you'll be sure that the ladies you select are willing to provide the services you want.

     

    Security, Convenience and Satisfaction Guaranteed

    While anal and other more exotic services are important to some punters, that's not the biggest reason the Hell Club and its inspiration, the Eden Club in BKK, have become so popular. Top-notch sexual sessions are combined with security, convenience and a guarantee of satisfaction to keep the customers cumming and coming back. Quite simply, Hell/Eden offers a unique experience that hasn't so far been duplicated anywhere in Thailand (or the world for that matter).

     

    Bruce, the manager of BKK Eden, estimates that 60% to 70% of Eden's customers are resident ex-pats or business travelers who visit the Club on a regular basis. It's that\niche group which forms the core of Eden's clientele. The "Eden model" (or "Hell model") serves them well and they don't mind paying a bit extra for it, Everything exactly as you want it, no haggling over price, no risk of a disappointing, much less negative, experience. Should you by some chance have a problem, you simply speak to the manager and they'll straighten it out. If you're not satisfied, you don't pay.

     

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    The Hell/Eden experience is particularly good for those of us who value our own time more than a few hundred baht. Here's what I set up several weeks before I visited Thailand in January:

    • Jan. 12 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 14 (10.00 a.m.) Overnight, then 24/7 session with two ladies from Eden Bangkok
    • Jan. 14 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 19 (1.00 p.m.) Overnight sessions each night with between one and three ladies from Hell Club Pattaya
    • Jan. 19 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 20 (12.45 p.m.) Overnight session with four ladies from Eden Bangkok
    • Jan. 20 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 21 (12.45 p.m.) Overnight session with two ladies from Eden Bangkok

    These arrangements took me about two minutes to put together (two emails to Marc, a follow-up phone call once I was in LOS). I wanted to visit Hell Club to meet Cerberus and Beelzebub (Jacko) and to say hello to Marc, but I didn't have to. I could have just phoned the Club and they would have sent the ladies to the condo where I was staying. That's what I often do in BKK - the Eden ladies meet me at my hotel room (or a restaurant, nightclub, bar, etc. - where ever is most convenient for me). No wasted time.

     

    For me, that's an important part of the Hell/Eden service and in and of itself worth a premium price. I can set things up in advance via email or telephone and be guaranteed the ladies I want. I mostly visit Thailand on a combination of business and pleasure. and have neither the time nor the inclination to search for hours in bars, clubs or on the street for two or more ladies who may or may not give me a satisfactory session.

     

    Another very significant factor for me is the fluency in English and social sophistication of the ladies of Eden. Some of them speak English a hell of a lot better than many university educated Thais, several even write excellent English. One year I took an Eden lady with me to a diplomatic reception in Bangkok hosted by the embassy of the People's Republic of China. Because she dressed appropriately, spoke such fluent English and had the social skills to manage a cocktail party setting, everyone believed she was indeed my

    assistant.

     

    She had had a long-term live-together relationship with a native English speaker and was thoroughly familiar with Anglo culture. The first time I took her to dinner, at the Huntsman Pub in the Landmark, she ordered steak and kidney pie! That was definitely a unique experience - a TG who took a very British dish as her first choice. If that girl had been dealt better cards in the game of life, I'm sure she could graduated magna cum laude from any university in the world. She's summa cum laude at Eden, but with a different set of skills. Other girls at Hell/Eden are similarly skilled in English. Several have even lived in an English-speaking country. I appreciate the fluency some Hell/Eden ladies have in English as much as their sexual skills. Communication is important to me. No matter how good-looking or enthusiastic in bed a girl is, it just doesn't seem right if I can't communicate with her easily. I wish I spoke Thai, but the chances of me having time to learn it are small. Therefore, a P4P provider's ability in English is crucial to me.

     

    Does everyone need an escort who can accompany them to a diplomatic reception? Obviously not. But some punters do and for them, Hell/Eden is a great option. That's why Hell/Eden flourishes while others struggle. That will be what makes Hell a success as well – offering options to a niche group that hasn't been previously served well. Eden/Hell provides the service that's wanted with a minimum of hassle at a price the customer is willing to pay.

     

    Because I have limited time for mongering during my visits to BKK, I prefer the "sure thing" of the Eden Club. Finding FLers or BGs who perform at the level of an Eden lady is rather rare, much less finding two or more who'll perform together. I don't get that much of a kick "hunting" for ladies on the street or in bars, there's too big a risk for major disappointment. Other guys feel exactly the opposite. They enjoy hunting, that may even be the most exciting part of the experience for them.

     

    Moreover, I appreciate the security Eden provides. I like the fact I don't have to hang out with a lot of drunk punters in the bar. While I never expect to have any problems regarding the service at Hell, it's reassuring to know I can take any complaints to Cerberus and Beelzebub, rather than ex-cons with nicknames like Bubba and Cueball or ex-Spetsnaz named Boris and Yuri. I've got no idea what the Thai equivalents of Bubba and Boris would be named, but I'm sure they are just as short-tempered and have the same scars on their knuckles and prison tattoos on their forearms.

     

    Evil

     

    Now hes preaching on how to have sex with prostitutes in a brothel,lol.

     

    Ned

  9. It's nice to see a kinder, gentler touristman. I'm happy my posts have had such a persuasive (and positive) effect on you.

     

    But I do have to correct one of your misstatements - the Hell Club is exceptional value for money when compared with the establishments that are usually suggested as its competitors. I'll expand on that idea at length in an upcoming post, but not in this thread. :banana

     

     

     

    Evil

     

    :bigsmile:

     

    Give it a rest Evil,its YOUR OPINION that Hell is exceptional value for money,and its Touristmans OPINION that its NOT anywhere near value for money.

     

    Just because his opinion is in total opposition to your view of Hell,does not warrant a reply by you stating that his opinion is a mistatement,and in need of correction by you.He stated it was IN HIS OPINION,so therefore its NOT a mistatement by Touristman,its what he believes.

     

    Your continual posts and topics on Hell,i believe are doing this place more harm than help,its a wonder Cerebus doesnt ask you cease your continual diatribe on this and other forums.

     

    Ned

  10. Hi Tengotodo,

     

     

    I am writing here as this subject gets done to death on the board

     

    We are one of the few places that state exactly what we offer, and for how much and indeed go further by putting our money where our mouth is by guaranteeing the service. We offer no individual any reductions nor special offers, in fact we charge VIP members more for the privileges they enjoy. Our ladies do an exceptional job and are worth every Baht and more as far as I am concerned, and that position seems to be supported by the generosity of the majority of our regular customers towards them.

     

    As an aside, we find Pattaya on the whole far more expensive than Bangkok, for instance we still travel each month to Bangkok to get our supplies, as even when taking into account the travel cost we still pay only 74% of the price charged in Pattaya.

     

    I will say it yet again, "We are not for everyone!", but neither do we lie, price gouge, nor rip-off and nobody holds a gun to anyone's head to make them use what we have to offer.

     

    It is always notable that those that have used our service and actually post, have nothing bad to say about us, just the opposite. It is only those for whom it holds no interest that throw out accusations and slurs, without any genuine knowledge with regards the subject they expound upon.

     

    I would respectively submit that we do not price gouge, are an open and direct organisation, and would go further by stating I believe the ladies are under-paid for the standard of service they provide, but they, as everyone are subject to market forces.

     

    Thanks for your good wishes

     

    With respect,

     

    Cerberus

     

    Wow the best post ever from this Pimp.

     

    Pattaya more expensive than Bangkok,kidding right?Rent,electricity,water,transport,food etc,etc are cheaper in Pattaya than Bangkok,without doubt.So dont give us this bullshit,just to justify your over the top pricing.

     

    If you guys charge 7000 Baht for a full days stay,thats just taking the piss,unless your aiming at Newbies that dont know better.

     

    We all know that a Stunner from a Go Go,will stay as long as you want her for 2000B{or less} plus 500B bar fine,and shes as fresh as a daisy,not some bird who may have been shagged all day,before you take her out.

     

    As far as you VIP membership goes,this is the biggest joke of all time.

     

    You charge 20,000Baht up front, for VIP Membership{LOL} which entitles you to TEN FREE LADIES.

    So theoretically ,a VIP Member is paying 2,000Baht per lady,as opposed to a pay as he goes punter,who pays 1,800 Baht.Oops i forgot,a VIP member recieves a huge 15 % discount on HIS drinks,which bearing in mind drinking is discouraged by Eden.

     

    Get with it Cerebus,Pattaya aint Bangkok,and your pricing should reflect that.Also theres no Soi 6,Welcome Inn or Jade in Bangers which offer the 1/2/3/4 girl service as Eden/Hell,thats why Eden survives in Bangkok.

     

    And finally,you state that you believe the girls are UNDER PAID,so pay them more,then you can retract that statement.But of course you wont,because paying the girls a bit more,doesnt fit into the Eden/Hell philosiphy.

     

    Ned

  11. Just wait until you actually arrive.....the dollar is way down and prices all over Pattaya are UP. You're in for a shock I think!

     

     

    I cant believe the increases within only 2 years.

     

    When i first came to Pats 2 years ago the prices are as follows,compared to Febuary 2007

     

    Australian Dollar/Thai Baht 30b,now 27b if your lucky.

     

    Airfare,$700 AUD,now your lucky to find a fare under $1000AUD

     

    Hotel {Areca Lodge} 990B now 1050B{still very cheap though}

     

    Go Go B/F 400b {600b tops at Super Models} now 600b is the norm,and one place is asking ONE THOUSAND BAHT, its no Secret where thats happening.

     

    Great to see Living Dolls 1 taking the initiative and lowering BF,smart guy that Aussie owner.

     

    Beer Bar b/f 200b across the board,now many are asking 300/350b

     

    Girls are also asking stupid prices in some places,but i guess if some dopes will pay, they will keep asking these prices.

     

    Sadly the Thais and most Farang bar owners are shooting themselves in the foot,its no wonder more mongers are heading to the Phillipines.

     

    Ned

  12. Ive been into the rooms at the Rockhouse,and they are exactly as Mulph describes them.

     

    Theyre VERY spacious and the furniture is excellent,but what i found to be most appealing was that the rooms and the whole premises were spotless.

     

    Another plus is that the Rockhouse is situated in Soi L K Metro,just off Soi Diana,which is a brilliant area for drinking and some great,great girls.

     

     

    Ned

  13. Giday Touristman,

     

    Mate i agree with you about this clip/rip off brothel,but youre just giving these Pimps oxygen every time you post.

     

    With all their Spamming and recruitment of friends{Alan Lad} to pump this place,its obvious theyre feeling the pinch.

     

    We and hundreds of others know its a Newbie rip off,no matter what the Pimps say on this board,there are far greater alternatives for threesomes in Pattaya than Hell.

     

    Marc is not a stupid man,and he clealy saw the writing on the wall before this brothel opened,so he unloaded most of it to a couple of other Pimps.

     

    Just left this brothel die in peace,and keep up warning Newbies of some of the Rip Offs in Pattaya.

     

    Footnote. Alan Lad has stated he has never been to Hell or Eden,so his comments should be disregarded and viewed purely as someone helpnig out these Pimps.

  14. I've always wondered- why is the return trip to BKK cheaper than going out to Pattaya? Do they know that at that point, we have NO money???

     

    -BKKsaint

     

     

    The reason Pty to BKK is cheaper,is because there are no parking fees involved,when they just drop you at the terminal.When they pick up from the airport,they have to use the pay car park.

     

    Ned

  15. Sir Ned,

    Be nice :bigsmile:

    Now Sir Ned, being the owner of The Hell Club I believe that my knowledge of our business rules may just be in advance of anybody elses :D When a lady goes out over night she must stay until 6am, (unless the customer releases her earlier). What she does between 6am and turning up for work is her business.

     

    Usually neither I , nor any member of management will know what time she left, unless it was before 6am when she has a duty to inform me and tell me the reason why.

     

    There are no penalties for leaving later :clap1 , indeed it is none of my business. That is a fact, irrespective of what you may think. We mention the 6am leaving time because that is the earliest the lady can leave at.

     

    Now the 'Punter' pays 3,000 baht for taking a Lady out, because that is the inclusive charge for the lady's company. It is usual for the customer to pay the lady in the morning before she leaves.

     

    There is no 'Bar-fine, just an inclusive charge, why? because thats the way we elect to run our business. You are right we are not the same as any other bar in Thailand, other than the Eden Club of course :D

     

    Regards your taking a gogo lady, bar lady, whatever :ang2 your choice, as i have stated numerous times; we are not for everybody.

    Ned I am the owner of The Hell Club, and I make the rules. I have never made unsupported allegations against you or anyone else and I object to you doing so regards the Hell Club, so supply your proof.

     

    Other than the normal rules of employment, there are no threats nor penalties made to anyone in the Hell. Club.

     

    Knowing Marc on an individual basis I doubt what you claim, but not having been privy to the running of the Eden Club I will make no further comment.

     

    As I have said before, Horses for Courses, if you find such as Welcom and Soi 6 satisfactory, good for you.

     

    Funny enough most of our customers are repeat customers who live or frequent Thailand for/on a regular basis

     

    Cerberus

     

     

    I know more about the workings of both Eden and Hell,than you realise.

     

    So my friend lets leave it at that.

     

    And i will most definitely buy you a beer or two in three weeks time.

     

    Ned

     

    Ned

  16. I have been to SOI 6 and Welcum Inn both on numerous occasions,and it is just stupid to compare these locations with "Hell" or "Eden" like comparing apples and oranges.The short answer is that if you object to the H&E's business practices then simply stay away,but as far as value for money goes,simply UNBEATABLE!

     

     

    Stevoman,

     

    A post from a guy who visited Pattaya many years ago,and also questions why he should pay a massive 200 Baht for a free lancer in a Beer Bar.{Taken from your history on this board}

     

    And you try to support Hell who charge way over the top prices for the service.

     

    By the way,good luck in the Rugby World Cup,i think it will be the All Blacks or the Frogs,with Ireland as the team to cause an upset.

     

    Ned

  17. Their business model is their business model. For strictly P4P, you cannot beat it as they are active from the moment that they enter the room until you leave. No training necessary. No questions as to what they will or will not do. They take directions extrmely well. I have travelled the world and, in each place, I look for this type of establishment simply because I have no desire whatsoever to converse or interact with the girls except in a sexual way. For those like me, Hell Club's model is perfect. To each their own. It seems that people who think differently need to just ignore posts like mine. To say that only newbies will use this service is absolutely absurd.

     

    Have a Great Day,

     

    Evades

     

    So youve obviosly never been to Soi 6 or Welcome Inn on Soi3.

     

    You say in your post that " They take directions extremely well" You then go on to say that"I have no desire whatsoever to CONVERSE with the girls or interact with the girls,except in a sexual way"

     

    So how on earth do you give the girls directions,without conversing with them?

     

    As far as your comment goes on "No training necassary" maybe you should ask the owners WHY they brought girls from Eden,to TRAIN the girls at Hell,how to act as Sexual Robots,which is the service they provide,Robotic Sex.

     

    Up to you mate,where you choose to spend your Baht,but its also not absurd for me to suggest that Hell is a Newbie trap.

     

    Ned

  18. VIP MEMBERSHIPS

    VIP = 20.000 B

    10 free ladies

    15% discount on customers drinks

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Full day is an option but ONLY if the ladies agree to go, In this case the price will be 7000b so the ladies won't be losing too much money if they have to go outside early day time or many days.

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    HOPING YOU FOUND ALL YOUR ANSWERS

    see you in Hell

    Cerberus

     

     

    Are you guys kidding?

     

    VIP Membership is 20,000 Baht.

     

    Which entitles you to 10 FREE Ladies,lol.

     

    That equates to 2,000 Baht per lady,compared to 1,800Baht if not a member.

     

    Oops i forgot,you also recieve a mammoth 15% discount on CUSTOMER drinks,NOT Lady Drinks.

     

    Has anyone tried to have a drink at Hell or Eden before being hassled to chose a Lady or move on.Their own marketing spiel discourages drinking,lol.

     

    Wait thers more,if you want a Lady for a full day,its ONLY 7000 Baht,compared to Go Go girls 2500/3000 tops or Beer Bar girls 1000b tops.

     

    Ned

  19. Dear Ned (know nothing) Kelly,

     

    After 6:00am the girls are free to do as they wish, either leave or stay with the punter, same as Bangkok. All we say is they will stay at least until 6:00am, unless the punter wishes them to go earlier.

     

     

    Jacko,

     

    Im not a Newbie to either Pattaya or Bangkok,so please dont treat me as one.

     

    I know for a fact that any girl from Eden or Hell is penalised if she stays longer than 6AM,or extra money is asked for from the punter.

     

    Why do you even mention 6 AM as leaving time?

     

    Why does a punter pay Eden or Hell 3000 Baht when taking the girl out?

     

    Surely a punter should only pay your club a bar fine,and then its up to the girl what she wants for her services.No other establishment in Thailand dictates what you will pay for a girls services.

     

     

    If i take a girl from a Beer Bar,i pay 200/300 to the bar,after that its up to us what i pay the girl,and up to both of us what time she leaves,this may be between 1 and 24 hours.This also applies to Go Go girls and free lancers,obviously the cost will vary.

     

    Jacko you are controlling these girls,with threats of fines or other penalties,Marc is notourious for this practice at Eden.

     

    But go for it mate,there are enough Newbie suckers coming to Pattaya who will accept your terms,conditions and prices,untill they discover Soi 6 and Welcome Inn down at Soi 3

     

    Ned

  20. And if you are determined to see the ladies of Hell one-by-one, there's always the overnight take-away option from 10.00 p.m. to 6.00 a.m.

     

     

     

    Evil

    :bigsmile:

     

     

    You forgot to add that this will set you back 3000 Baht,for a girl who may have been shagged non stop for the previous 9 hours.

     

    And can you explain why the girls MUST leave by 6AM?

     

    Surely the owners of Hell are not controlling the girls movements and time she spends with a punter,as Marc does in Bangkok.

     

    If a girl likes the punter who takes her out after 10PM,why MUST she leave at 6 AM if she wishes?

     

    Theres no other bar/gogo/club that dictates to the girls what time she MUST leave a paying punter.

     

    Ned

     

    Ned

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