Soccer Players On The Same Team Fighting !

[Hammer 763]

This happened today between two Newcastle Players, very funny !

 

Here's a clip.

 

http://hem.bredband.net/jenslindmark/bowyer_vs_dyer.mpg

[Barrington_Tenchanall 2]

ITS FUCKING FOOTBALL!!!!!!

 

SOCCER IS WHAT THE CRETINS PLAY IN SHERMAN LAND.

[Hammer 763]

Didn't want to confuse our American friends !

[growler 0]

Reminds me of the 2 Blackburn players who started fighting in Moscow during a European Cup Game. David Batty and I think Graham Le Saux.

[grimsbyuk 13]

norverners innit, flat caps n wippits

[rkt 0]

norverners innit, flat caps n wippits

The's nowt wrong whi wippits.

 

Or pigons.

[Skytrooper 0]

Originally posted by Barrington_Tenchanall (a.k.a. Exhibit K):

ITS FUCKING FOOTBALL!!!!!!

 

SOCCER IS WHAT THE CRETINS PLAY IN SHERMAN LAND.

 

Are you functioning under the misperception that your obscene language is a satisfactory substitute for your lack of intellect and an adequate vocabulary? BTW, are you drunk again and having trouble with your Caps Lock key?

 

"Sherman land?" Are you referring to the U.S.-manufactured Sherman tanks which American soldiers used to save your Limey bacon in WWII? BTW, the silly game you're referring to is soccer. Football is an entirely different silly game.

 

Originally posted by Hammer:

Didn't want to confuse our American friends !

 

It's exceedingly unlikely Barrington_Tenchanall (a.k.a. Exhibit K) has any American friends. I'm sure he can find some vulgar, amoral forms of Eurotrash to chum around with.

 

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[bigfoot 0]

What more would you expect from soccer (Football is AFL in Australia)

it has been known for years that something had to be done to at least make the game(SOCCER) a little exciting.as for entertainment value it don't have a chance when compared to AFL .

 

the foot

[Barrington_Tenchanall 2]

Sky, seriously, you are a fucking waste of space, a supercillious troll, if you are indeed who you say you are, and what has happened to you is correct, then quite frankly you deserved it for being a fucking stuck up arrogant twat.

 

 

Im sorry, but you have got away with insulting more people on this forum than anyone in its history, hidden behind quotes and extracts from racists, war criminals and general all round fucked up goons, i take the old deer stalker off to you, and please credit me in your works.

 

And before barriorunner starts belating about american bashers, regardless of the fact you are supposedly an American, you are still a grade A tit.

[Skytrooper 0]

Originally posted by Barrington_Tenchanall (a.k.a. Exhibit K):

Sky, seriously, you are a fucking waste of space, a supercillious troll

Troll? You're the bloke (a little Limey lingo for you) who entered this thread with a gratuitous insult directed at Americans.

 

Originally posted by Barrington_Tenchanall (a.k.a. Exhibit K):

Im sorry

 

Indeed you are; although I submit "pathetic" would be even more accurate.

 

Originally posted by Barrington_Tenchanall (a.k.a. Exhibit K):

you have got away with insulting more people on this forum than anyone in its history, hidden behind quotes and extracts from racists, war criminals and general all round fucked up goons

 

"Hidden behind?" Been at the booze again, eh? I wasn't aware that John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ayn Rand, John Locke, Thomas Paine, Samuel Adams, Lysander Spooner, James Madison, Vin Suprynowicz, L. Neil Smith, et al. were "racists, war criminals and general all round fucked up goons." It's not unexpected for you to demean people whose shadow you're unworthy to stand in. It's also no surprise you endorse a person being imprisoned, denied bail, counsel, a jury trial, etc. simply because he exposes your vulgarity and lack of wit and character.

 

BTW, are you ever going to explain who "Austin" is, how you plan to "bust my chops," or where you got the delusion we'd ever met?

 

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[bigfoot 0]

This topic is about soccer/football, who gives a fuck what someone thinks about another members country.i cop it all the time being a French/australian(thats life) maybe its time some of you kept the American bullshit to the correct thread.

 

the foot

[RearWindow 0]

a supercillious troll

I have no desire to become embroiled in this discourse per se, but I would have never expected to see this sort of colourful description in a forum like this. Quite Excellent!

 

However, until the actors stop feigning life ending injuries when they take a cleat to the shin, I cannot take the sport seriously. Now if they can LEGITIMATELY hurt each other while fighting..I'm all for that.

[greenhorn 7]

Oh I thought winning WW2 was a joint effort.

 

I wonder what the Russians were doing....

 

What were the US doing in 39, 40, 41?

[RearWindow 0]

Oh I thought winning WW2 was a joint effort.

 

I wonder what the Russians were doing....

 

What were the US doing in 39, 40, 41?

We had just discovered soccer, and were just too damn busy with it to notice anything else.

[Skytrooper 0]

Originally posted by greenhorn:

Oh I thought winning WW2 was a joint effort.

 

Are you referring to the WW2 started as a consequence of the unconscionable Versailles Treaty imposed by Great Britain and France? The same two countries which sat idly by while a brutal tyrant came to power in Germany and rearmed its military forces? The same two countries which watched placidly when the Rhineland was reoccupied and Austria was annexed, which sold out the Czechs, and which ignored the U.S.S.R. invasion of Poland while declaring war (years too late) on Nazi Germany?

 

Originally posted by greenhorn:

I wonder what the Russians were doing....

 

Besides invading Finland in 1939 and Poland in 1940? Depends on which Russian you're referring to. Stalin was cursing himself for letting his treaty partner attack the U.S.S.R. one year before he planned to invade Germany. In 1940, many Soviet citizens welcomed the Germans as liberators. If Flash_Basbo's pals, Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, hadn't made some spectacular blunders in 1940, Russians would now be speaking German.

 

Originally posted by greenhorn:

What were the US doing in 39, 40, 41?

 

Between 1939-1941, the overwhelming majority of Americans were minding their own business. When we do this, people like you call it "isolationism." When we needlessly interfere overseas, people like you call it Yankee imperialism and aggression.

 

FDR, however, was actively violating the U.S. Neutrality Acts (and, as usual, lying through his teeth to the gullible American public) and seeking to embroil the USA in another foreign war. Eventually, he succeeded. And were you Brits ever happy!

 

There was as much chance of Japan, Germany, and Italy invading and conquering America as there is of the U.K. ever repaying its WWI and WWII war loans to the USA.

 

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[greenhorn 7]

"There was as much chance of Japan, Germany, and Italy invading and conquering America as there is of the U.K. ever repaying its WWI and WWII war loans to the USA."

 

That's a wicked slur..... I believe it will be paid off this or next year.

 

Please don't tell me we are still paying for those 50 rust buckets, sorry I mean those fine Town Class Destroyers..... lol.

 

As you well know only one was really useful and that was parked in the Normandie gates. Bit suspicious what happened to the ole Normandie... shoddy workmanship?

 

Of course I enjoy your revionist slant on history, I hadn't realised that old Woodrow wasn't involved at Versaille.... I do apologise. So he or Lodge couldn't've agreed or signed off on Articles 231-247... course being the ignorant person I'm, I had to look them up. Obviously I'm not smart as a history professor or the self taught.

[greenhorn 7]

"The same two countries which sat idly by while a brutal tyrant came to power in Germany and rearmed its military forces? The same two countries which watched placidly when the Rhineland was reoccupied and Austria was annexed, which sold out the Czechs, and which ignored the U.S.S.R. invasion of Poland while declaring war (years too late) on Nazi Germany?"

 

Who appointed these two countries as the world's watchdogs?

 

What did the USA do.... of course they're not culpable, as they were isolationist.

[greenhorn 7]

"Sherman land?" Are you referring to the U.S.-manufactured Sherman tanks which American soldiers used to save your Limey bacon in WWII?

 

Of course, I forgot that Commonwealth servicemen never used it.

Then the German nickname "Tommy Cooker" must be a misnomer.

 

Of course it's a figment of my imagination that one of the best marks to come out Detroit was the M4A4...... upgunned with the trusty 17pdr anti tank gun..... mind you this was a British upgrade....

 

Carry on old boy, don't hide your military knowledge under bush, please illuminate us all. To learn at the knee of a military man, 'tis a great honour.

 

Shockingly the Russians had 4,000 M4s.... what would you do with them, when you had T34s.... I know which one Russian tankers would prefer.

[Skytrooper 0]

Originally posted by greenhorn:

That's a wicked slur..... I believe it will be paid off this or next year.

The U.K. hasn't made more than a dent in its WWI debt to the USA, let alone paying off WWI and WWII debt "this or next year." Don't let reality intrude into your posts, however.

 

Originally posted by greenhorn:

Of course, I forgot that Commonwealth servicemen never used it.

Then the German nickname "Tommy Cooker" must be a misnomer.

 

I never said Commonwealth servicemen didn't use U.S.-manufactured tanks. Don't let the fact I never said or remotely thought that keep you from attributing it to me, however. Brits were delighted to get U.S.-made tanks. Considering the alternative was using British-made tanks, I understand their rationale.

 

If you seriously want to examine some real cracker box "tanks," check out the pathetic examples cranked out by Flash_Basbo's Italian brethren. Italian tanks made Japanese tanks look good.

 

Originally posted by greenhorn:

Shockingly the Russians had 4,000 M4s.... what would you do with them, when you had T34s.... I know which one Russian tankers would prefer.

 

I guess you just forgot to explain why the Russians begged for those 4,000 inferior M-4 Shermans.

 

Originally posted by greenhorn:

Please don't tell me we are still paying for those 50 rust buckets, sorry I mean those fine Town Class Destroyers..... lol.

 

"Rust buckets?" Oh, you mean those 50 WWI era U.S. destroyers you blokes begged FDR to send to England, partly because you desperately needed more destroyers and partly because you sought to embroil the USA in your war (just like you chaps did in WWI).

 

Originally posted by greenhorn:

Of course I enjoy your revionist slant on history, I hadn't realised that old Woodrow wasn't involved at Versaille.... I do apologise. So he or Lodge couldn't've agreed or signed off on Articles 231-247... course being the ignorant person I'm, I had to look them up. Obviously I'm not smart as a history professor or the self taught.

 

"Revionist?" [sic] In the unlikely event you seriously want to learn about "old [evil and gullible] Woodrow," I invite your attention to The Illusion of Victory by Thomas Fleming. Wilson was aghast at the British/French terms for the Treaty of Versailles. He was also a human vegetable due to stokes at the time the treaty was signed. While not one American in a thousand (then or now) is aware of it, Wilson's doltish wife and her cronies ran the U.S. government for months. You, "ignorant?" I can't imagine an ignorant member on this board of rocket scientists. Next, you'll be suggesting there's a resident collection of liars, vulgar knaves, and/or amoral statists.

 

Originally posted by greenhorn:

Who appointed these two countries as the world's watchdogs?

 

What did the USA do.... of course they're not culpable, as they were isolationist.

 

Do you have a world map handy? Check out the proximity of France and the U.K. to Germany then locate the USA (BTW, we're on a different continent across all that blue space). Ignoring which countries were directly responsible for the Treaty of Versailles, which countries were at more risk from a rearmed Germany with Adolf Hitler at the helm (a little Navy lingo for the ex-squids)? If you can't figure this out for yourself, ask a Yank tourist or a reasonably bright child.

 

That's right; when Americans mind our own business, we're "isolationists." When we intervene overseas, we're war-mongering imperialists. Unless, of course, we're rescuing Limey/Frog/Belgian/Dutch/etc. bacon.

 

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[scarface 0]

Does this guy have to bite EVERY single time?????

[rkt 0]

FWIW IMO, there's not one player worth more than £10.00 a hour!!

 

[greenhorn 7]

Nope he'll be letting you know about Bowyer's fine..... 6 weeks wages....

[Sammy 30]

However, until the actors stop feigning life ending injuries when they take a cleat to the shin, I cannot take the sport seriously. Now if they can LEGITIMATELY hurt each other while fighting..I'm all for that.

Excellent description.

 

I just want to know what the training/medical staff have in those "magic" water bottles that instantaneously resuscitate the befallen actors on the pitch who go down as if hit by a high powered rifle.

 

I have heard, seen and participated in teammate brawls during practice but once the game is on versus an opposing team, they are the enemy, not my teammates.

 

Newcastle should banish both players to the Canadian Professional Soccer League.

[greenhorn 7]

Bowyer's wallet must be hurting after that beating..... £210,000 ouch!

[greenhorn 7]

"Do you have a world map handy? Check out the proximity of France and the U.K. to Germany then locate the USA (BTW, we're on a different continent across all that blue space). Ignoring which countries were directly responsible for the Treaty of Versailles, which countries were at more risk from a rearmed Germany with Adolf Hitler at the helm (a little Navy lingo for the ex-squids)? If you can't figure this out for yourself, ask a Yank tourist or a reasonably bright child."

 

It's too easy.

So the US weren't signatories...... Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Denmark, Poland, Czechoslavakia... are all closer.

 

Am still puzzled why the US joined in.....if I followed your line of thought..