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So how are things progressing - more compliance or business as before?

 

Billions seems to think there might be progress .....

 

Just seen this in the Bangkok Post.

 

The campaign to get more compliance to the law continues,one step at a time. The wild west behaviour is being cracked down upon.....maybe.

 

 

Andrew Drummond doesn't ......

 

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2017/08/wise-guys-in-suckers-in-and-out.html
Tuesday, August 01, 2017
THE THAI IMMIGRATION POLICE'S 'GOOD GUYS IN - BAD GUYS OUT' CAMPAIGN IS NOT FLOUNDERING. IT NEVER STARTED!
While Thailand’s current military dictatorship is running on a ‘end corruption’ ticket there are signs that corruption in Thailand is rising to a new peak and the people the military are arresting seem to be in areas where uniformed men have prospective interests.
AND IF THE BAD GUYS PROVIDE A SOURCE OF INCOME WHY KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE?
Who cannot remember the day in 2012 when two wise guys from Essex were nabbed after trying to drag away ATM machines from banks in Chonburi? They were Alex Milbourn,25, and Shaun Tracey, 24 and the truck they used was owned by Alex’s dad John Leslie Milbourn, now 63.
The story ran in the Bangkok Post and the PattayaDailyNews which described the thieves in a headline as ‘Dumb and Dumber’.
Obviously, these guys were going to jail for a long time. Right?
No, they had not complained about being gazumped by a Pattaya prostitute, they'd merely attempted a few robberies and failed.
Alex and Shaun came straight out the backdoor not long after General Panya Mamen gave his press conference along with Police Maj. Gen. Jamnong Rattanakul.
They (Alex did not even have a visa for Thailand) walked away scot free, but most likely a lot poorer, which was why I guess they had to start up property and rent-a-car businesses in Pattaya.
It is here that they followed in the footsteps of Richard Haughton, the former Pattaya Rotary Club President who ran Thailand Property and Media Exhibition Company (TPME Ltd) and Harlequin (Thailand), who in turn learned his business from David Ames, the Harlequin supremo now awaiting trial for fraud in the UK.
Haughton offered for sale houses that were never built, and the ones that were built, he mortgaged the title deeds, without telling the foreign buyers what he was doing – so the buyers were buying a massive debt.
It seems in the case of the Milbourns that they had a special relationship with Pattaya police. We know of course Thai police will not investigate foreigner on foreigner fraud, but in the case of the Milbourns I have a report that when people actually complained to police they were threatened with deportation.
When the military men said they were going to clean up Pattaya they clearly meant they were going to ‘clean up in Pattaya’.
Alex Milbourn’s father is known in the UK as a man who ran with Eddie ‘King Cone’ Blundell, whose speciality was ripping off foreigners in London. He took over the central London ice cream trade essentially by force and intimidation and then went on to run a car clamping business. The victims had to pay £600 to get their cars back.
Eddie Blundell later wrote his biography ‘Top Drawer Villain’ but he was decidedly bottom drawer.
Recently the Milbourn’s relocated from Thailand back to Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, after private criminal cases were issued against them, but before the warrants of arrest could be obtained. They said they were going back to the UK on holiday and Alex took with him Harvey, his son by his Thai wife.
They have not returned and the mother, not surprisingly is distraught. But John Leslie Milbourn has an estate agency to look after in the UK.
What did they do to garner two arrest warrants? Well they used to rent out property on behalf of foreigners who had bought in Thailand as an investment, or lived in the country only a few months a year.
In this case they convinced a leaseholder to buy the freehold in a company name. They then forged his signature on a power of attorney and went along to the land office and transferred the property to themselves.
Then they took a 10 million baht loan off the property through dodgy Pattaya loan sharks with no intention of paying it back (something the loan sharks seemed to understand).
The owner of the property has discovered, not surprisingly, that the courts are ruling in favour of the loan sharks.

 

 

How do you see it?

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Well,the authorities stopped the deckchair mafia taking over the beach entirely,finally stopped illegal construction at The waterfront,demolished a few hotels that had abused planning laws,cut out the smoking of shisha,cleared Walking Street of mobile vendors in the early hours,enforced scrutiny of documentation at hotels,stopped the widespread Soi 6 regulation avoidance,clamped down on the zero-dollar Chinese tour mafia,got the motocy guys to play ball,display fares and get licensed,stopped the littering and flyposting in telephone kiosks and on street furniture,clamped down on the Cambodian beggars,rounded up a few International villains,closed down loads of Thai pubs for drug infractions and underage patrons,kicked out the corrupt City Hall governance and replaced it wholesale,terrified go-go security into compliance instead of brutality,closed down previously invincible go-go bars for license irregularities,enforced opening hours,now regulating massage employees,hanging the Sword of Damocles over the seaside of Walking Street,stopped the open sale of many previously available pharmacutical products,looking into unlicensed hotels and guest houses,huge crackdown on drink driving abuse.....and probably plenty of other things that have been cracked down on.

 

They are getting there,one step at a time...

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Well,the authorities stopped the deckchair mafia taking over the beach entirely,finally stopped illegal construction at The waterfront,demolished a few hotels that had abused planning laws,cut out the smoking of shisha,cleared Walking Street of mobile vendors in the early hours,enforced scrutiny of documentation at hotels,stopped the widespread Soi 6 regulation avoidance,clamped down on the zero-dollar Chinese tour mafia,got the motocy guys to play ball,display fares and get licensed,stopped the littering and flyposting in telephone kiosks and on street furniture,clamped down on the Cambodian beggars,rounded up a few International villains,closed down loads of Thai pubs for drug infractions and underage patrons,kicked out the corrupt City Hall governance and replaced it wholesale,terrified go-go security into compliance instead of brutality,closed down previously invincible go-go bars for license irregularities,enforced opening hours,now regulating massage employees,hanging the Sword of Damocles over the seaside of Walking Street,stopped the open sale of many previously available pharmacutical products,looking into unlicensed hotels and guest houses,huge crackdown on drink driving abuse.....and probably plenty of other things that have been cracked down on.

 

They are getting there,one step at a time...

What a laugh. Those signs, all written in Thai, have been taken down or hidden in most cases. When you do see them, and can manage to translate or identify destinations, they rarely conform to the mandated fares based on distance that was supposed to be adhered to. A complete waste of time and nothing but a sham clean-up.

 

I still don't see any value in removing deck chairs and food vendors from Pattaya beach one or two days a week. No food or drink vendors, no umbrellas even allowed to be brought by tourists who go to the beach but don't want to get burnt to a crisp while there. Stupid.

 

The recent "clean up" of baht bus routes, including Soi Buakhao are a joke and not enforced unless they need money.

 

The ridiculous rules about checking in with immigration for every visiting resident within 24 hours are for what? An all paper system that is just a burden on everyone involved.

 

I'll stop now. I can't be bothered to go through that list to deal with each item's success at implementation, and more importantly, their value in bettering life in Pattaya for anyone.

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,clamped down on the zero-dollar Chinese tour mafia,

 

They are getting there,one step at a time...

Literally no or little change with this. The Chinese are more active in trying to eradicate the tours, than the Thais since China gets stuck paying for repatriation of the abandoned mooks who got duped.

 

Bangkok is ass deep in this problem still.

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I'm with Andrew. At the Pattaya level all we are seeing is ridiculous cosmetic campaigns, which either inconvenience foreigners or get the locals off side. On a national scale its even worse. Whether its down to corruption or just plain incompetence, they are getting nowhere fast.

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I'm with Andrew. At the Pattaya level all we are seeing is ridiculous cosmetic campaigns, which either inconvenience foreigners or get the locals off side. On a national scale its even worse. Whether its down to corruption or just plain incompetence, they are getting nowhere fast.

 

I'm not sure which Andrew you are alluding to...But if it is the one which is banned for hunting and reporting farang property scam artists more power to his elbow....

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I'm not sure which Andrew you are alluding to...But if it is the one which is banned for hunting and reporting farang property scam artists more power to his elbow....

That's the one. He actually wasn't banned physically, but left because he had received credible threats of harm to him and his. He relocated back to the UK.

Worse yet, the scoundrels who he outed, with their mercantile connections with the powers-that-be, got his web domain blocked in Thailand. It's not porn, not lese majeste, not especially anti-government, but a word in the right ears from his enemies (who have since left the country under arrest warrant for the very crimes he described) got the MICT to insert his domain into their block list. That block list is similar to the no-fly list used by the US government...easy to get on it, but no way to get off the list.

 

He's a brave guy and has good sources, though he does go on about the same small-time crooks a lot..many of whom are still in Thailand working their schemes.

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I'm not sure which Andrew you are alluding to...But if it is the one which is banned for hunting and reporting farang property scam artists more power to his elbow....

 

 

See the OP - Andrew Drummond.

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