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6 hours ago, awesum4 said:

I got very offside with my teacher when I was 12 because I asked him to explain how eskimos were able to live and grow quite healthily on a diet of meat, fish and fat only.

You are doing real well it's been a really interesting thread,   keep it up mate, and all the best for the future.

Recently I read a paper about Omega-3 and Omega-6 fatty acids in the Eskimo diet. Then there is the French Paradox. Both of these go in the face of "common knowledge" at the time.

We are all built on the same biochemical engines, but that doesn't always mean what works for one person would work for every person. It's up to the individual to find what works for them.

 

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On 11/15/2020 at 1:26 PM, sailingbill said:

Pretty much no flour, no white sugar ,no potatoes. Went from 210 pounds to 165 pounds since moving here.  Dont know what that is in Stone.  No DM, Htn or Obesity.  But the drink will get me. Something gets all of us men. 

First of all congratulations on your weight loss!

Second, may I ask how long it took for you to lose those 45 pounds, and how long it's been since you achieved a 165 pound weight? I am in that range now and just doing some predictions to see if I maintain my current weight lose how long it will take.

Note, that I do not think I can maintain my current weight lose, as the more you lose, the longer it takes to lose the next pound. My next goal is 90 kg which would be 198 lbs. My current four week trend predicts it will be sometime on the 23rd, so the 24th should have a weigh in less than 90 if I stay on track. If I extend it out to 75 kg (165 lbs), then assuming current trends, it would be sometime in February, 2021.

I like consuming data so your input would be appreciated.

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Beer Belly well done. You have more patience than me but it is important. I used My Fitness Pal to track my calories. Im to lazy to calculate and they have most foods in the data base.  When i first looked i realized if i consumed no food at all my beer drinking would still add 1/2 pound a month. Embarrassed  to say Maryland winters are boring and i could easily have 12-20 beers a day, hadn't a beer in 2 years but Sake and the demon rum will still get me. I would typically eat 800-1000 calories a day. The fitness site would not give me a projection saying your not eating enough. My weight loss was to short.about 2 months. The wisdom is that quick a loss will not last. But the wisdom, as you and i have found with choices in Doctors is wrong. So its been 2 years and i drop a baht in the scale at Family mart every week. If i get above 75 kgs then i pay attention. No more pizza.  You do have to pay attention. A Mcdonalds fish sandwich has only 4 carbs if you remove most of the bun. Lean cusine fish, 40 gms carbs. Also it is much easier here to stay somewhat fit despite my unsavory lifestyle. I swim 0600 every day, no one in the pool. Walk at times from Naklua to Central Festival.    A friend is coming down from Bangkok today and we will send a Billabong girl off for a PIzza, and consume many calories upstairs at Kinks tonight. I may not drop that Baht in the scale tomorrow. 

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5 hours ago, BeerBelly said:


I like consuming data so your input would be appreciated.

Let's hope the data is low calorie!! 🤣

 

However, well done on your weight loss. 🤓

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7 hours ago, sailingbill said:

Beer Belly well done. You have more patience than me but it is important. I used My Fitness Pal to track my calories. Im to lazy to calculate and they have most foods in the data base.  When i first looked i realized if i consumed no food at all my beer drinking would still add 1/2 pound a month. Embarrassed  to say Maryland winters are boring and i could easily have 12-20 beers a day, hadn't a beer in 2 years but Sake and the demon rum will still get me. I would typically eat 800-1000 calories a day. The fitness site would not give me a projection saying your not eating enough. My weight loss was to short.about 2 months. The wisdom is that quick a loss will not last. But the wisdom, as you and i have found with choices in Doctors is wrong. So its been 2 years and i drop a baht in the scale at Family mart every week. If i get above 75 kgs then i pay attention. No more pizza.  You do have to pay attention. A Mcdonalds fish sandwich has only 4 carbs if you remove most of the bun. Lean cusine fish, 40 gms carbs. Also it is much easier here to stay somewhat fit despite my unsavory lifestyle. I swim 0600 every day, no one in the pool. Walk at times from Naklua to Central Festival.    A friend is coming down from Bangkok today and we will send a Billabong girl off for a PIzza, and consume many calories upstairs at Kinks tonight. I may not drop that Baht in the scale tomorrow. 

Thanks for your information. Regarding the wisdom of quick weight loss, I have found a lot of "common knowledge" to be more nuanced.  For example, they claim you should not drink Diet Beverages as it will "raise  your blood insulin". I have not found this to be particularly true. I drink 4-6 Coke Lights each day. I did find there is something called cephalic phase insulin release (CPIR ). Basically, this is when your brain triggers insulin release in anticipation of eating/drinking something sweet. This is similar to salivating when you smell something savory. But a bigger issue, claimed by some dietitians, is that when you eat/drink something sweet, then you will crave something sweet, thus making you more likely to go out and eat a bar of chocolate. So it's not the diet beverages that are breaking your diet, it's the breaking your diet that is breaking your diet.

The same is true for those who become diabetic after quitting smoking. It's because the former smokers switch from a smoking habit to a sweets habit.

As long as we, as individuals, have agency, then we can decide for ourselves what is the best course of action. If you are committed, then I think a quick weight loss is fine as long as you don't bounce back in your diet.

A lot of the "diet foods" simply replace fat with sugar. I'm sure that's why Lean Cuisine fish have so many carbs. Be careful with the McDonald's fish tartar sauce.

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