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Thanx for the review and pics, Hammer.
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A refreshing angle, as ever - tnx.
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Just 1 of the freeware options:
go to:
download IrfanView, open it, click on File, click on the Batch Conversion/Rename field.
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Russians in Pattaya? I understand that there is now a saopy massage staffed by them and a show bar upstairs somewhere on walking street???????
ANY INFO??????
Bet they wont LT for 1000baht!! LMAO
Seriously, mongering is mongering and even I occasionally hanker after some more insipid flesh.
I would love to hear any experiences- without breaking the rules of the board of course.
Also details -location etc.
Royal Garden Plaza-HERE I CUM!
Pattaya Happy AKA Moscow Mad,
pattayahappy,
I warmly recommend that you apply for the full membership of this Forum - this post belongs exclusively to the realm of the Members Only Section, IMO.
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impy mac,
1. There’s nothing unusual about people (especially Brits) abandoning the field of civil discourse after insulting me when they’re unable to defend their positions with reason and facts. Gee, I was really hoping to read how you planned to defend yourself and/or your family from vicious thugs after you’ve willingly allowed yourself to be rendered unarmed and helpless. I guess your scheme is to call your assailants “arrogant†and turn your back on them.
2. I’ve never contended “no-one else is [not] allowed to have their own point of view.†If you enjoy accusing other people of writing things they never wrote (or even thought), you surely joined the right board. Your notion that all opinions are worthy of equal (or any) respect, however, is not only wrong, but downright bizarre. If you think I’m going to accord any respect to the opinions of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, FDR, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Dianne Feinstein, et al. or consider them as worthy as the beliefs of Thomas Jefferson, Lysander Spooner, Ayn Rand, Vin Suprynowicz, Claire Wolfe, et al. then you’re seriously mistaken. Do I have “scorn†for people who’ve willingly sacrificed their personal freedom in exchange for an irrational illusion of safety? Yes, indeed. BTW, that makes me “rational,†not “arrogant.â€
3. How did the descendants of John Locke and William Blackstone become so confused and/or contemptuous of unalienable individual rights? My opinions which you callously disdain were formed by many years of study, reason, personal experience, and empirical evidence. Your opinions which you demand other people blindly “respect†were clearly formed on the basis of wishful thinking, inadequate research, and flawed reasoning.
4. Let’s see if I understand this right. In your opinion, it was perfectly OK for American Indians to “slaughter and steal†because they neither understood or believed in individual rights (or capitalism, science, civilization, etc.). However, it was immoral for European immigrants (most of whom also didn’t believe in individual rights, especially for persons with different skin pigmentation) to engage in less egregious conduct. The largest number of deaths of American Indians (mostly from disease and some from retaliation against Indian attacks) occurred before the USA even existed. After the USA was created, there was nothing unusual (then or now) about Americans (particularly politicians and judges) ignoring the Constitution. If not sharing your apparent high opinion of the vile, ignorant, amoral American Indian murderers, robbers, rapists, child molesters, etc. I was confined with makes me a “Tyrant†in your uninformed opinion then I can live with that. Contrary to a widespread misconception, being a libertarian doesn’t mean I don’t live in the real world. With one exception, the American Indians I’ve encountered (in and out of prison) make many black criminals seem like praiseworthy people by comparison.
5. I fought against tyranny in wars in six countries on two continents. I contributed thousands of dollars to political candidates and organizations in a futile effort to stem the rising tide of statism, usurpation, and tyranny in America. It was while "seeking a peaceful redress of grievances," writing published articles trying to warn my countrymen of their eroding personal liberty and the criminal misdeeds of federal agents, that directly led to my imprisonment. If it’s any comfort to you, great civil libertarians such as Janet Reno, Louis Freeh, Bill Clinton, et al. share your opinion about my “arrogant writings.†They stepped on me like a bug. BTW, contrary to your specious claims, I’ve never violated any person’s individual rights. A human being, whether a government goon or a private criminal, who initiates the use of force to deprive other people of their rights (life, liberty, property, etc.) have voluntarily sacrificed his or her right to life or liberty. If you cannot grasp this then perhaps that’s why Britons who defend themselves from assault are often punished more harshly than their attackers.
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Skytrooper,
it is not always about the length of someone's posts - impy mac quoted you without spinning anything and you could not answer (but tried to put your own spin on the matter, IMHO
). "Sorry seems to be the hardest word..."
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Well, I'm adv. the 4th and possibly the 5th as well, for a get togeather celebrating the Marriage of myself and my wife. Your first drinks on me! See you there.
PS. I won't be replying to this message as I won't be online anymore for a while. This is the first and last post I will make regaurding this on here. Peace. Plus thanks to all my supporters
http://www.kingkaew.com/nuke/index.php
I need members and admins; heheh.
Peace and "take care yourself"
especially webby
peder,
try becoming a Member of this Board before the 25th - it is in your best interest, IMHO.
Good luck to you (there is nothing else one can do for you...)
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VikingInOz,
If you're not Norwegian, you might want to change Oslo, Norway from the location you cite in your member profile, remove the Norwegian flag from your member ID, and delete your many past posts about Norway and Norwegians, especially your Viking ancestors. You called Babepecker your "chum" (which I'm sure you regret now) so don't try to obfuscate that admission.
"Merely a citizen of the USofA?" People risk their lives and many die all the time in trying to get here to live. I don't believe that to be the case with Norway.
I am most definitely your enemy. I am an enemy to every oath-breaking minion of tyranny on Earth and every statist such as yourself who spits on the concept of unalienable individual rights for the sake of a vile political agenda. Oh, yes. I am your enemy. I derive great comfort from that fact. At one time NVA regulars were also my enemy. The principal difference, however, is that they, unlike you, were worthy of a measure of respect. Not that this interfered with my killing them.
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I must admit it: the subject/member has definitely lost it:
enemies all around him, waiting to be killed...
Should I be worried?
I believe that an apology from you, Skytrooper, to anyone who might have read this post of yours, is due.
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VikingInOz,
Yes, really.
How many times do I have to repeat this for you? You profess to being Norwegian. You've admitted Babepecker is your "chum." The content of many of your posts reveal you to be a socialist. How, therefore, is it a lie to refer to you as Babepecker's Norwegian socialist chum? You've been particuarly dense lately. I surely wouldn't object to you calling me your American libertarian enemy.
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Skytrooper,
now, that is a lie.
Of course, you might check the meaning of the words "chum" and "to admit" in your M. Webster Dictionary and, subsequently, post a correction of your above quoted statement, along with some much needed apologies.
A link to check, should you need a reminder
:http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/index.ph...30entry148919
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Originally posted by Babepecker:
RWB,I shall add my "2 lipas worth" on "what is it that keeps the people free(?)":
1st and foremost, proper education and awareness of what is happening in the country they live in, directly coupled with the willingness to act in order to preserve their own and their fellow citizens' freedom.
IMO, firearms are definitely not essential, around Europe nowadays, should the above be the case.
Rather than work on increasing your English comprehension, I suggest you concentrate on history and improving your character and reasoning ability. Many of the German and other Jews who walked into Nazi extermination camps were highly educated. Ignoring the small detail of vicious hoodlums (as you invariably do), having a "willingness to act in order to preserve their own and their fellow citizens' freedom" is of scant value if you're unarmed and helpless in the face of armed oppressors.
I know you're not stupid, so I wish you'd cease ignoring reality solely to promote your statist political agenda (which is contemptuous of genuine human liberty). The Armenians had a "willingness to act," but that only benefited the small minority who disobeyed Turkish laws disarming them; "law abiding" Armenians are a footnote in history under "genocide victims."
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Skytrooper,
I am sorry to notice that you are experiencing some form of, to put it mildly, "attention deficit", lately.
I have written:
"IMO, firearms are definitely not essential, around Europe nowadays, should the above be the case."
In your next post, you came up with the examples of Nazi Germany mass-killing the Jews and Turkish slaughter of Armenians?
Please, get well soon.
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Originally posted by bloodyhell:
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1. Purely by accident, you made a correct statement. Spending “many hours with your nose in books†does “mean nothing†about character. Unlike your chum, Bazle, I’ve never posted a lie on this or any other Internet board and never refused to defend my posts with reason, facts, and civil language. This, of course, is irrelevant to you. Your disdain for people who read books will hold you in good stead with many other members who derive great pride in their ignorance.
2. “Nips?†If I used that word, a mob would soon form up denouncing me as a racist.
3. Unlike you and nearly all other members of this board, I’ve posted my identity and address on several occasions. I’m also not at all surprised that you confess to being an informant. Nor is it a surprise that you don’t “give a rats [sic] arse†about facts, particularly in a criminal case. Boy, did you ever join the right Internet discussion board. Facts, reason, and moral behavior are as unpopular among the riffraff here as they are among typical convicts in prison.
4. I understand facts in general, and the U.S. Constitution in particular, mean nothing to a disreputable lout such as yourself, but I’ll go through this again as non-registered members haven’t seen it before. The U.S. Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Any law violative of the Constitution is null and void. That’s not my lowly opinion, but the consistent ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court since their landmark 1803 decision in Marbury v. Madison. The Second Amendment expressly states “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed†and forbids any type of anti-gun legislation. In addition, our federal government only has those powers expressly delegated to it (by the people) in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. No power was ever delegated to our government to restrict or prohibit the private ownership of firearms. Unfortunately, for most of the past century, politicians and their appointees in the judiciary have used legal sophistry to ignore or circumvent constitutional safeguards in order to advance their political agenda. An ignorant, apathetic populace (you know the type) more interested in booze, ball games, and rock music than their eroding individual liberties sadly betrayed the blood spilled by their ancestors.
5. I was targeted for prosecution in retaliation for my published writings critical of misdeeds by federal agents at Ruby Ridge and Waco. Ex-FBI agents can’t write what I did with impunity. That’s a violation of the First Amendment. Despite having never committed any violent crime, I was denied bail without a hearing; that’s a violation of the Eighth Amendment. The search of my residence was based upon an affidavit replete with 15 pages of perjury; that’s a violation of the Fourth Amendment. I was denied counsel, a violation of the Sixth Amendment, and the government violated three court orders directing the return of my seized funds, thereby preventing me from being able to hire an attorney. I was denied, by court order, a jury trial; that’s another violation of the Sixth Amendment. My bench trial which you cited lasted between two and three minutes as I was still prohibited by court order from speaking in my defense. Due to your blind prejudice, none of this, of course, matters a whit to you.
6. I come from a long line of “criminals.†When eleven companies of grenadiers and light infantry (the cream of the British army) sought to confiscate privately-held firearms at Lexington and Concord on 19 April 1775, my gallant ancestors killed many of them and chased the survivors back to Boston. They waged a successful revolution so their progeny wouldn’t have to be “poms†and live as you do, as a craven subject of a tyrannical government, with no individual rights, just whatever "privileges" your rulers grant, curtail or withdraw at their whim.
7. I’m supposed to take “American bashing like a man†while you and your ilk squeal like gelded pigs if anyone responds to your insults. Thank you for explaining that.
8. As far as my never criticizing the American government, I spent over five years confined in a cage with retarded sociopaths who think precisely as you for doing exactly that. As far as my never criticizing mistakes Americans have made in the past (and today), it’s obvious you’ve never read through my posts in the Member’s Only forums. Your abysmal ignorance, of course, in no way deters you from posting fallacious misstatements. Once again, you surely picked the right board to join.
9. Besides my name and address, at the request of members, I’ve disclosed much of my military service and my service as a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. BTW, I resigned my appointment as an FBI agent because I refused to violate my oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, the same document you display such ignorance of and/or contempt for. BTW, most of the “poms and aussies†on this board are harsh critics of the Iraq War. Also, not only did Tony Blair not get “a standing ovation†in my house, I wouldn’t let the statist scoundrel into my house.
10. While I'm not your "mate," I look forward to reading about your military combat service. Bazle, Babepecker, spike, VikingInOz, et al. are all strangely reticent to mention their's. I'm particularly interested in your explanation as to why a "psychopath" would volunteer for infantry service in Vietnam in order to try and keep total strangers on the other side of the world from having to live under communist tyranny. This is just one of many questions your chum Bazle won't answer.
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No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. — Thomas Jefferson
Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and inalienable rights of man. — Thomas Jefferson
Much of the world today and through centuries of history has suffered the terrible consequences of unbridled government power, the prime evil that the writers of the American Constitution sought to guard against. Judges who “interpret†constitutional safeguards out of existence for the sake of some ideological crusade, presidents who over-reach their authority for personal or political reasons, and a Congress whose powers are extended into matters that the Constitution never empowered them to legislate about are all part of the quiet repeal of the American revolution. — Thomas Sowell, The Quest For Cosmic Justice
Skytrooper,
just saving the wisdom...
Btw, this part definitely qualifies as hillarious:
"Unlike your chum, Bazle, I’ve never posted a lie on this or any other Internet board and never refused to defend my posts with reason, facts, and civil language."
RWB,
I shall add my "2 lipas worth" on "what is it that keeps the people free(?)":
1st and foremost, proper education and awareness of what is happening in the country they live in, directly coupled with the willingness to act in order to preserve their own and their fellow citizens' freedom.
IMO, firearms are definitely not essential, around Europe nowadays, should the above be the case.
Cheers
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Neither of us have heard of it either.
I thought so...
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Babepecker,
Considering it's defending my political beliefs (which happen to be the views of the Founding Fathers of the USA) that engenders the greatest venom against me by statists such as yourself, your latest malicious attempt to denigrate me is more fallacious and bizarre than usual. If there's a member of this board who's repeatedly responded to more questions about politics, history, government, law, his personal background and identity, than myself, I can't imagine who it would be.
But don't let little things like truth and objective reality interfere with posting a perfectly good lie. That's never stopped you before. BTW, I know English isn't your first language, but your spelling in various threads lately has been worse than usual. Not being a pedantic sort of person, I didn't post corrections.
Do you still support victim disarmament laws which would forbid any private citizen from possessing any type of firearm (or knife) for recreation or personal protection? You know, the odious laws your Austrian chum cybers1b said never put any person in prison. I'm sure you have a good reason for defending your fellow European statist's pathological lies. How many thousands of people in the world must be imprisoned and how many lives must be ruined before you acknowledge reality?
bloodyhell, you'll also get along fine with Babepecker. What he lacks with facts and reason, he compensates for with lies and smilies.
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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. — Thomas Jefferson
With well-enforced property rights people have the ability to sell goods and services to others as a means of improving their own standards of living. Consequently, secure property rights (minimal or nonexistent levels of government confiscation through taxation, for example) create incentives to develop greater skills and abilities to produce goods and services for others and to profit from that. And because they create the ability to profit from one’s own productive enterprises, property rights are the keystone of modern capitalism and of civilization itself. (That’s why Marx and Engels wrote in big capital letters in The Communist Manifesto that a prerequisite for socialism was ABOLITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY.) — Thomas J. DiLorenzo, How Capitalism Saved America (2004)
Just saving the wealth of wit, reason and articulation contained in the above-quoted Skytrooper's post for the benefit of the future generations of members of this Forum...
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Poster"s" ???????????
Fatboyfat,
I guess you would claim that you have never heard of the Multiple Personality Disorder...
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Originally posted by Babepecker:
Since VikingInOz already acknowledged himself as your "chum," there's no predestination on my part necessary.
"Worthy" fits, but not "supernaturally." Supernatural [adj]: of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil; departing from the usual or normal so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature; attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit). Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition.
Keep working on your English comprehension. If and when you eventually get a handle on it, you may instruct Code Monkey, M1903, johnh101, et al.
BTW, contrary to what you may think, filling your posts with smilies is not a substitute for intellect.
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Skytrooper,
though rarely, sometimes you are a true source of inspiration - even though not in the above quoted, but the above positioned post of yours.
Here it is:
to anyone who might care (though I sincerely doubt that it goes beyond a single digit number
):To the best of my knowledge, Skytrooper refuses to engage in reasoned discourse since he lacks facts to support his political beliefs and his lamentable tendency to avoid the truth. He seemingly enjoys posting the "drive-by" insults like the one above. Or the one above that. Or...
(freely paraphrased from Skytrooper's own text - credit given where credit was due
)For further reference, here is a link to a previous post of mine in this thread, containing some of the links which nicely illustrate Skytrooper's "ways":
http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/index.ph...30entry148928
Cheers, everyone
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SunnyValentine,
OK und ich drücke die Daumen für dich / euch (all the best to you).
:DHub,
as you seem to be referring to a post of mine in the Members (Relationships...) Section from a week or so ago - I though it was clear to everyone who had read it that it was a tongue-in-cheek response to iono's tongue-in-cheek comment.
Would you please re-read it and correct me if I was unclear there and then, within the given context of that thread?
Regarding my living in (as opposed to: visiting) the countries other than the one I was born in:
well, to make it very short - I had to adapt to each and every one of those.
In the process(es) I learned about those respective cultures and learned how to behave in a respectful manner, as much as possible in the time I spent there.
Importantly, I did not learn it only by watching TV, reading books, articles on the Internet or talking to people (preferrably in Croatian
), but also by learning the respective language(s), observing the way that people live and doing everything that a citizen of that country would be doing (working/studying included) - partial assimilation might be the correct idiom. Before you ask: no, I was not born with that proverbial "silver tea-spoon" in my mouth.
Anyway, to finish this off (if still possible
):if a tradition (any tradition, the local one where I may live included) is being used as an excuse for a blatant rip-off and I feel like pointing out the realistic probability of this being the case, with no notion of a personal attack on the other party(-ies) in the discourse as was the case in this thread, I shall do it again.
Frog,
"babe I made no attempts to flame your posts."
obviously not true, but as I said, it does not really matter - you did not hurt my feelings.
La vida estas nada sin amor.
(guess that everyone got this one - hope that I got it right)Sin obscuridad, luz decaeria. (should mean: without the darkness, the light would fade)
Being romantic does not need to exclude the usage of one's brain, IMHO.
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Babe:
Just one excerpt from your post:
If I read Tweety's initial post well, his Thai wife is going to move to Europe to live with him, meaning that he believes that she is civilized enough to be able to do it.
Whose idea of civilization exactly? Is only your western idea of that concept valid?
You need to think outside the box of the western culture that you know. Quoting a western dictionary and saying things like "in the year 2004" has no relevance in understanding and successfully dealing with differences in cultures that have developed separately over a few thousand years.
We could go on here forever on what the basis of Thai dowry and things like the fact that western people may consider the marraige and growing up as a chance for independence while Thais continue to think that the parents should be supported, but it is another discussion entirely methinks.
What can be said; however, is that blatantly dismissing a Thai cultural tradition like you did and not uderstanding it because you are trying to fit it into your own cultural experience is a recipe for disaster if you ever want to successfully interact with or understand Thais. A Thai/farang relationship is difficult enough, without that type of blatant foul. After all, Tweety is a foriegner trying to take their loved daughter away from them to another country.
Has the dowry tradition been used unfairly to extract baht from farangs as potentially exampled by the recent Kaew marraige thread? Absolutely. I am not an expert, but I wouldn't expect a dowry requirement for someone previously married and maybe only a token dowry for a previous BG.
Tweety's amount of 400K, while high is not out of the ranges I have read or heard for high class Thais. From reading his posts, IMO he is not being "played", especially as it sounds like money has been flowing the other way in the past and it is a one-time payment with no support to parents expected afterwards.
To maybe put it into context so you can kow jai, would you consider the traditional western practice of the brides father paying for the wedding (usually more 400K baht, BTW) as a "payoff" to the groom? Is the diamond ring "buying" the girl? These mischaracterizations are probably not as bad as the comparison you made to dowry to "buying" the Thai wife.
Yes, hopefull people can make up there own mind about what they read on the internet, but that does not make it any less valid to dispute blatant ignorance when posted, especially in the form of an absolute as you did and I have no qualms on making a strong response to refute your points.
Hub
P.S. Babe, this thread has made me come to understand you and your other posts a little better. You seem like a nice intelligent young guy that is just a little confused about some things.
As a word of warning, if you are ever invited to a high class Thai wedding please do not tell the brides parents they have just "sold" their daughter, as I would hate for you to end up in the khoa pat.
Hub,
you wrote:
"Whose idea of civilization exactly? Is only your western idea of that concept valid?"
Well, as I am a Croatian citizen, currently living in Croatia, and having lived my life (for a year or longer) in 4 other European (though not necessarily "western") countries, your argumentation is a bit lost on me.
Btw, I have no problems with the strength of your responses, though I do struggle a bit with the quality of your argumentation.
As the box I am "thinking inside of" (whichever that might be), is seemingly pretty big, I shall add these few questions:
What does the mutual respect mean in a case of the conflicting demands by the cultures of partners (or partners-to-be)?
Who should yield/surrender what?
Who can provide a good reason why would a Thai custom be more improtant than an American, Dutch, Austrian or a Croatian one?
Cheers
Frog,
english is my 3rd language, though I did understand your blunt attempts at flaming me / my posts.
It made me smile - I guess that you were unsuccessful.
Tweety,
I hope that it works out for you and your future wife, despite my doubts regarding (some of) the motivation of her parents.
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Pecka: Mr. America was intended to be tongue-in-cheeck (as a matter of fact I just did not find the "Smiley" Key on my Keyboard when writing this), so no offense intended.
About Cultural Imperialism: Yes I mean that. From your statements here (and Hub pointed to another detail in your posts) I can sense this. Take care. It is not since very long that Croatians are widely recocnised as members of the "civilised" world, you remember Ustascha, or later General Norac..... Wrong concept of perception, I know, but don't make the same mistake on an other culture ....
Sunny
Sunny,
wo soll ich anfangen? Vielleicht damit dass ich nicht dein typischer Grosskroate bin (trotz den beiden Fähnchen
). Weiterhin, da du die Ustascha und ähnliches reingebracht hast - wer Mauthausen im Lande (du bist Österreicher, falls ich mich richtig erinnere?) hatte sollte vielleicht doch nicht so leicht mit den Steinen...?
Die Kroatischen Generäle...
...darum sollten sich die Gerichte kümmern, oder? Übrigens, Kroatien schickte und schickt Ihre Generäle nach Haag - gleichzitig weigern sich die Verinigten S. den ICC Vertrag zu unterzeichnen. Zivilisation, was ist es? Ehrlich gesagt, ich sehe ein dass "zivilisiert sein" auf Englisch (sowie auf Deutsch) doch etwas blöd klingt - "anpassungsfähig" und "anstellbar" wären eher angebracht.
Wie ich sagte - Englisch ist meine dritte Sprache...
Prost
(an honest apology to the membership for the above, non-English, scribblings of mine - won't happen again very soon
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Good one - chum
:D VikingInOz,
seems like the worthy (and supernaturally powerful, though he shall deny it
) Skytrooper has decided to predestine us to become chums, some time in the future. So, in its name: živjeli and skoll
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Babepecker,
You've never asked my permission before when posting links in an effort to obfuscate things. Once you finally grasp the English word "forgery," I'll start paying attention to your ramblings about English usage. There's a "Croatian" language? Whoever would have guessed?
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Skytrooper,
it seems to me that you are avoiding to "walk the walk" that you so eloquently preach to everyone else on this Forum - show some responsibility and apologise for your rude and false accusations.
Here are some of the links showcasing your ways with the facts, the truth and illustrating your disingenuousness / insincerity, including the "forgery case":
http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/index.ph...=0entry123938
http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/index.ph...30entry124426
http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/index.ph...60entry138286
Recent one:
http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/index.ph...=0entry141850
Also, your and my previous posts in this thread.
I guess that it must be very difficult for you to be confronted with the hard facts like this...
Cheers, everybody
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Babepecker,
When I suggested you study the meaning of the word "disingenuous," I wasn't encouraging you to behave in a disingenuous manner. I realize such conduct evidently comes natural to you.
BTW, is VikingInOz, your Norwegian socialist chum, objecting to my referring to him as your "chum" or isn't he really Norwegian? You know how much trouble I have understanding European statists.
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The Highest art in the world cannot guild socialism. It is impossible to make beautiful the denial of liberty. — Auberon Herbert
It is sobering to reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. — Charles A. Beard
The saddest epitaph which can be carved in memory of a vanished liberty is that it was lost because its possessors failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time. — George Sutherland, 1938
Dear Skytrooper,
I am deeply hurt by your rude and baseless accusations. :crying
I expect a full apology from you, as soon as you will have read this.
Or should I start posting links to some of your less-than-coherent and, indeed, tragically off-the-point posts, like the one quoted above?
Btw, I have also noticed that you are having a bit of trouble with the proper use of tenses, as of lately, especially the Present Perfect - now, that would be perfectly understandable if you were a foreigner, whose mother tongue contains no comparable tense (Croatian, German,...), but as the facts that you have provided indicate otherwise, I admit to being profoundly surprised.
Before you ask for examples: please check among my quotes of your posts, as I do not intend to further this (grammar) topic.
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Babe,
In the Italy guys case the girls family has so much money it's not funny. Since sin sot has to be paid to preserve face the father is seeing to it that his little girl gets what she wants. And face is saved. Even if everbody know what really is happening. Gotta love the Thais, ever so practical.
The problem we keep telling this idiot is that if he cheats on her and she decides that what she wants is his head on a platter, it will happen.
We told him that they only way he can ever fuck any other pussy is if his Father in law takes him. But then his FIL will really. really own him. He thinks he's in heaven, pretty girl, lots of money. WE KEEP TELLING HIM that he could be heading straight to hell.
Cool and interesting story cowboy - thanks for sharing it.
I dare guess that the Italian guy has found that elusive source of blonde Thai girls (including his fiance)?
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Originally posted by Babepecker:
I am sorry that you see it so exclusively.IMHO, liberty is not defined as only the simple freedom to move wherever you wish to.
Or were you absolutely forbidden to think and/or speak while being imprisoned?
I never gave the definition of "liberty" you falsely attributed to me. I understand you still haven't got a handle on the English language yet, but I wish you'd cease prevaricating and fabricating when you find yourself in an untenable position. Liberty and freedom are not synonymous. Liberty is a "political condition," just as I stated, not simply a "freedom of movement" as you allege.
Here's your English word to study today: Disingenuous.
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Skytrooper,
I have never claimed that you had ever posted any definition of "liberty" (why did you use quotation marks there?) at all.
I merely wrote:
"I am sorry that you see it so exclusively.
IMHO, liberty is not defined as only the simple freedom to move wherever you wish to.
Or were you absolutely forbidden to think and/or speak while being imprisoned?"
Why have you falsely accused me of falsely attributing definitions to you? :crying
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Pecka, we're talking here about an old Thai custom and you provide a Webster's dic definition to aid your point?
When in rome ....... you know.
Dowries are very often a reality here, sometimes even for a good reason. All further details on if, how much and the like are to be based on a thorough analysis of the individual situation.
Please don't generalise! And stop being Mr. America, the cultural imperialist!
Sunny
SunnyValentine,
as you know, I am very far removed from being Mr. America - probably to the point of being considered Mr. anti-America by some of this Forum's members.
The dictionary example was mainly directed at our US member Hub, as a reminder of the meaning of the word dowry in his language (as it is just the 3rd languge for me...).
With this:
"Dowries are very often a reality here, sometimes even for a good reason. All further details on if, how much and the like are to be based on a thorough analysis of the individual situation."
I agree.
My point was: in Tweety's very individual situation, based on the few bits of information that he provided, I'd consider myself being unduly played and would reconsider my position and obligations.
Furthermore, I do not dispute the possibility of a successful cross-cultural relationship/marriage - I only advise putting a lot of extra effort and not forgetting one's basic values in the process.
Servus
Frog,
interesting.
If I managed to understand you right: one is either supportive towards other members' 'course of life', regardless of one's true opinion or one patronizes?
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Babe,
why pay if they are middle class? Middle class cost more.
If her family was rich then he would really have to pay. Know of one guy marying thai girl from rich family. He is italian. She drives a ferrari, bought for her by her father. (know what type of money that takes in LOS??)
her father hired him as a consultant and is paying him big bucks so that he can afford to pay 4 million baht sin sot. It is all about face. Instead of giving the money back afterwards the father is essentially giving him the money in advance so that he can pay the sin sot.
I just told the groom to be that he should really be sure becuase the fathers got real connections. If the groom changes his mind and breaks Daddy's little girls heart there will be some real shit to pay.
cowboy,
in your example, the italian guy is getting the surplus, not-really-earned-or-deserved cash in advance in order to be able to provide a good show while, in effect, paying it back.
This means that, effectively, he is not paying for his wife.
What bothers me in Tweety's case is that he is really going to pay for his wife and it is not all only about the 'face' / ancient local customs.
Btw, I believe that 1 Ferrari in Thailand equals approximately 3 in Italy or 2 in Croatia - ouch.
Cheers
Cherry Bar Party
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