Bakwahn

I think the thesis that some of you are advocating here, that politics (the mayor and the city council of Pattaya supported by the government in Bangkok) wants to get rid of sex tourism, is wrong. It is true - which you regret so much - that fewer and fewer unaccompanied men come from Western countries to Pattaya. I mean those who come because of the Sanuk. At the same time, the number of Western tourists who come because of the warmth, the sun, the beaches and the tourist attractions - married couples, families, retired couples, etc. - is also falling. What can be the reason for the

A few reflections on obvious mistakes made by Pattaya's political leadership (mayor and city council) and the Thai tourism industry, for which the Bangkok government is responsible. I am referring to what some of you have reported. 1. bad investments, shopping malls I agree with you. Thai investors, businessmen and managers have repeatedly made blatant mistakes in their investments. There are far too many overpriced shopping malls in Pattaya. Who should buy there? Here the mayor and the city council of Pattaya may have promised the potential investors too much; e.g. customers

To the development of Pattaya. I refer to contributions from Butch, Jacko, teelack, Yogi100, Bushcraft and some others. I'll start with the theme "music" in the bars; e.g. mentioned by Yogi100 and Keyman. Many bar and gogo bar operators have no knowledge and no experience at all in the gastronomic field. They open a bar without any gastronomic concept or idea! They don't have a clear and sophisticated business model. They don't have any clue. In general: Every beer bar and every Gogo bar needs a well thought-out gastronomic concept, a sophisticated business model to be suc

And then there are the particularly clever guys who come to Pattaya especially in low season. The girls in the bars are in a bad way, they are desperately looking for guests and customers. Now the guys can negotiate much better, cheaper prices with the girls. The number of freelancers is big and here you get prices that are clearly below the prices that are demanded and paid in the time of the high season. That's what guys on German Pattayaboards report again and again. Live from Duesseldorf Bakwahn

Yeah, that's a good question. Many employees traditionally go on holiday in the summer months of June, July and August. Many big companies - e.g. the big car companies in Germany - take company holidays for 4 weeks during this time. Therefore many employees have to plan their own holidays according to their company. This explains why some holidaymakers spend their holidays in LOS during these months. But it seems to me that this is only a minority. The majority of German Thailand holidaymakers come in the autumn and winter months, i.e. from October to the end of March. Then there is

Why do so few western sanuk tourists come in low seasons? The extended question must be: Why do fewer and fewer western tourists come to Thailand even in high season? The reasons have all been mentioned: * The bad exchange rate; strong Baht, weak US-Dollar, Pound, Euro etc. * The high prices for drinks in the bars * The extremely expensive prices for Ladydrinks, barfines and for the girls Let's be honest: The average Western tourist can hardly afford such prices any more. For a Pattaya day with beach life on the day, dinner and supper, in the evening barhopping with dr

Many thanks to everyone for the very informative and factual discussion about - how shall I say - the decline of Pattaya as a holiday destination for Western - mainly male - holidaymakers. Why do less and less western Sanuk tourists come to Pattaya during the months of the low season (April - September)? That is the question of this thread. In the last 5 years I wrote several articles about the “Goetterdaemmerung” for various international board and two German boards. For about 6 – 7 – 8 years we are witnesses of the unstoppable swansong, the doom, the Armageddon, the Goetterdaem