Agent09

For what seems an eminently sensible concept this does seem to stir some vitriol! Cost wise perhaps the way some see it, they compare to other LOS experiences which is fair enough, each to their own, and not having been there, and despite all I have read and in fact also because of much I have read on this and other sites I plan to try the Hellclub or Eden Club concept and make my own opinion then. I was in Pattaya last Dec 06 just as the (then Eden) Club was being finished ready to open and spoke to a guy outside about it. That was however just a few days before my departure and I never got time to make a visit. I agree in some ways already about the fact that if you want certain experiences on a 'guaranteed basis' then the Hell concept seems a sure way to ensure that you receive these exact services and thus feel you have been correctly served, for an agreed price. In this scene you therefore exchange uncertainty for certainty, for which you pay an establishment which trains/schools these principles. This seems logical Captain!. The excitement of the 'will she/they wont she/they' is a different adventure for which prices are often negotiable by skill, luck, timing, and persistence of approach. This is a different adventure and while sometimes providing a memorable piece of value can also result in a 'disappointment' and feeling of having been provided with less than one paid for. Value is a most subjective concept in the eye of the receiver/payer is it not? Last year touring several a go go bars with my 'main squeeze' BG of the week looking for another girl(s) to join us for fun we found it quite difficult in some bars to get any takers and so whilst there is the element of thrill and speculation, there is also a potential to spending some time and not getting a result, even in LOS without some effort, even if you get the Mamasan to ask around some BGs won;t take on that kind of deal even if you are presentable and fit. Taking yourself, or you and your BG/TG together to the Hell club concept would present you with a more than certain hot experience with a guaranteed result for a known price so I can see this is a clear niche market which is designed to suit certain clear situational needs. This to me seems a solid good idea. I have no comment about the girls and service yet as I have not experienced it. I shall find out in my own way how well this renowned but obviously controversial approach works for me. and that is the true measure of fair judgement. The idea sounds great and as I am accustomed to usually taking two girls at almost every time at least, for both BJ bars and ST/LT this sits well with me. I would probably be looking for two or three girls as petite as posssible, in school uniform, skirts, socks and/or stockings, all if posible with the most accomplished deep throat ability. I do not know if anyone can advise me from their own experience what the deep throat capability (depth wise) might be of the skilled Hell girls but I'd be looking for the ones with the best chance (and willingness to try which is important) of accomodating me fully and who do not mind being 'firmly (but politely) encouraged to go deep as they can. I also like to give facials. Once I have experienced this service I would be glad to report back.

Really funny report with excellent visuals - this beats Mango Sauce for amusing topical comment - well done, thoroughly enjoyable and I loved the Doctor Hu routine... thank goodness you're here Toilet Man - we are saved ! Gratz - great stuff !

Thanks very much all, for those replies, several of which look really good. I guess now I have to make a pick. The Grottino looks interesting, although I am now told by Grand Business Inn in an email ' contruction now 100% complete and no noise' ... hmm wonder if that's true or not... Other suggestions Dynasty and Town Lodge also look good on research. I will be in BK first week of May. Thanks.

Thank you for those suggestions. My budget is anywhere between the 1000-2500 range really as I am used to paying at least 1450-1600 in Nov/Dec in the Grand Business Inn. The Stables looks about the most interesting to me from that suggested list and especially as it's almost next door to L*litas which has to be a bonus.. I am VERY interested in staying at the wonderful beautiful Shanghai Inn which is up to about 2400 Bht for superior and more for suites, but it's in Yaowarat which I know well but that's a LONG way away from Sukhumvit and also I am not sure what their GF status is. It would be nice but would mean taxi in and out for almost all the action at night. Thanks for your suggested hotels.

For several previous visits I have stayed the BK part of my trip in Grand Business Inn, Soi 11 which for me has been ideal for Nana and not impossibly far from Asoke Cowboy or easy taxi and near to all the attractions off Sukhumvit. However I have heard all the time since December last 06 that there is serious building going on all around it and one reviewer here says so still at March 07 and the noise is apparently unbearable. Any recommendations please for similar hotel in the 1000-1700 bht night level close to the aformentioned attractions... I have spotted one review of the good looking Grottino at Soi 19 nearer Cowboy but further to Nana and Soi 7, Soi 8 haunts etc... Any other central Sukhumvit recommendations, must be aircon and girl friendly and in this market level at least.... thought about the Ambassador in Soi 11 but no idea how far down the Soi the apparently constant and awful builing site is stretching... anyone know if the Ambassador is GF and is also noise free currently? Thanks

Siam Sawasdee with good pool, on Soi Buakhow, the best quality of the Sawasdee chain in the area and the only one with decent pool really, very good stayed there for weeks at time in Nov-Dec period it's only 750-850 a night budget price.. cheaper lower season... very girl friendly for 1, 2, or more companions but they do check ID the majority of times. Rooms budget but OK and includes buffet style breakfast. Has a good travel desk for trips in lobby, have never had a bad event organised from there and same with transport to and from wherever. In a really good location for everywhere also if you like Soi Buakhow.. and I have to say I do. If you are going from UK note they still like most of Thailand do not have chip and pin credit card machines so if you have new cards with chip and pin and not sign, your cards will be useless. You can pay night by night though if you wish.