Scam in Pattaya

[PSBG]

SunnyValentine, none of us is a German speaking, and with no doubt you are right in your observations.

 

This x may have get there while copying the files. We will send you copy of the originals.....these emails have not been faked.

[cybers1b]

Cibers1b how can we prove to you that the e-mails in the website are reals and not faked?. Please tell me and we happily will provide you any information you ask.

 

What it was faked was the person interested in purchasing the pattayalivecam website. We were the ones sending the email to Uwe (Peter Geister himself) to make him to name Peter Geister as the owner of the business. And he did it finally.

 

The scam and the lies are so evident that we do not need to fake any information to the public. It is not in the interest of our credibility anyway.

 

Regards

 

 

PSBG

if the email is not faked, then you must have really messed it up with copy and paste as it is kinda hard to copy one header to another email by accident. but as i said before, i am convinced that this site is a scam, only, i am also convinced that you did either temper with the emails or just mess up big time during copy and paste..

 

cheers

cyber

[PSBG]

Sunny

 

very interesting point, but honestly we do not understand it.

 

Can you explain us the doubt?, we have not modified anything other than copy and paste from the originals.

 

You as an eagly-eye technichian as understood some technical aspect that may suggest manioulation, but if this is the case they have been created by other instance, and not by faking the emails.

 

Do you want to password of brownmjy2k?, no issues with taht we can provide it to you and you can login anc check. What do you think about that?.

 

In relation with Tip Top Franchise, the Bangkok Police has launched a criminal case agains Peter Geister as a serious fraud offence. This is in process at the moment. We can show you the documents personally. This includes investigaton of Tip Top Head Office in Hong Kong and others. We can not publish more details about that becuase he do not want to interfer in this matter and damage this process. The first and only one against Peter Geister in spite off all the fraud he had made.

 

If you wish, we can get together in a coffe and provide you with the documentation. We think that people deserve the right to ask for that.

 

regards

 

 

PSBG

[Frog]

Somebody knows Peter Geister whereabouts?. Would love to give his adress to the Pattaya Police. I know 3 people who have made formal complains.

[PSBG]

We sent his Pattaya and Bangkok addresses to the Police in Pattaya.

 

Please do not publish any address in Forum.

 

We will send required information by e-mail. Thanks!

[PSBG]

Many people has come forward now, and we are suprised hearing other scam stories that we have no idea that existed: Staff not paid, advertising not paid, licencing of his Top Off product and others.

 

His Top Off product for instance was licensed to be sold in Thailand, and his original label presented to the IFT to obtain the license, was in Thai as the law requires it. Once the license was provided, Peter Geister changed the label to English (as advertised on his website). It is illegal in Thailand to sell products with no Thai labels describing the product. This also has been reported to the corresponding authorities who has shown lots of interest in the case (they also has been cheated).

 

Our site has been upgraded and includes some information about his whereabouts. This is important becuase a basic strategy of this scam in "Not to be found". Many people fraud with the discount card has asked for this information.

[suitcase]

Be careful boys and girls, there's a new scam artist on his way to Pattaya. He's coming from Canada very soon because it's too hot for him here now and he can't make any money. He's one of the posters on this site and you'll recognize his username after you've visited the website set up by his victims at http://www.harrisblackwatch.com

 

You may have already read some of his stories and wondered what the hell is wrong with this guy. He can run but he can't hide

 

Always have a SUITCASE ready!

[laffnliv]

Suitcase: This should be posted as a new thread. More members will see it that way.

The guy has brass balls. Especially when he uses his own picture as his avatar on this forum.

Roy

[ting_tong]

I just posted it on the members board.

[Babepecker]

Be careful boys and girls, there's a new scam artist on his way to Pattaya.  He's coming from Canada very soon because it's too hot for him here now and he can't make any money.  He's one of the posters on this site and you'll recognize his username after you've visited the website set up by his victims at http://www.harrisblackwatch.com

 

You may have already read some of his stories and wondered what the hell is wrong with this guy.  He can run but he can't hide 

 

Always have a SUITCASE ready!

 

Thanks for the info, suitcase - it is highly and widely appreciated.

 

 

[Frog]

If Harris Black was able to survive in Canada for so long then it is easy to understand how Peter Geister has survived in Thailand for so long. In here the law does not help and probably he knows it becuase in spite of all the publicity about his scams he still advertises.

[PSBG]

Suitecase: Thanks for the info.

 

Frog: We can now create a new site named "The Peter Geister Watch". If you want to join please contact us. We are recruiting victims.

 

 

Peter Geister has fraud for so many years and he has such a twisted mind that we have no doubt he is incapable to go back to the normal "get your money by working and not by robbing" situation.

[PSBG]

Dear all,

 

we did not regard properly Pieman's suggestion about how to recover the money paid by credit cards.

 

Pieman (thanks and sorry for the later response to your assistance) wrote:

 

Just telephone your credit card company and tell them that you were not provided with the services that you paid for.

They will refund your money and charge back to the con artist.

Only if he can prove that you are being untruthful (and he can't) will he get the money back and you charged again.

 

As the services are paid for a term to up 10 years, and they have not been provided neither will be, the above procedure is quite legal and valid.

 

Below is the charge details:

 

Credit Card will be charged by Asia Franchise Association Co., Ltd.

245/67, 4th Floor, M.9 New 3rd Road, Nongprue, Banglamung, Chonburi 20260

Tel: 038-360-322, Fax: 038-360-231

 

We will attemp to contact all the people fraud with the discount card and let them know this procedure.

 

 

Regards

 

PSBG

[Frog]

The Bank is "Siam Commercial Bank". This is were the Merchant is registered.

[backdoorbusta]

LMAO,

 

Yes its definately a scam. Yes the sites at Tip Top and pattaya livecam are scams and yes of course the cards are fake too.

 

have you noticed that the images at Pattaya livecam (on each apparent cam) have been the same for more than two years!

 

I have been waiting for that guy at the Swiss restuarant to go in for ages!

 

NE way, if ur in Pattaya for fun (and lets face it, we all are) why bother with this pile of shite? have you got nothin better to do?

 

I have!!

[PSBG]

Peter Geister claims that a Swiss person wanted to buy this website.....

 

We would love to know about the "Swiss Restaurant" connection

[PSBG]

(We have no given updates for respect to the tragedy all know)

 

The website www.pattayalivecam.com is unavailable and we suspect it will dissapear. This means that Peter Geister is escaping with more than 1.5million BHT charged to all these people.

 

We are attempting to get e-mails of all the victims of this scam to advice about how to recover their money. We will keep updating our website (http://www.pattayascam.com) as we get more information. Thanks

[PSBG]

Discount Card holders and businesses whose names are mentioned on the scam website can make a formal complain to the Pattaya Police (many already have done it).

 

This will increase pressure for the Police to take action over the investigation already on course.

 

The Police office is located at Beach Road, corner Soi 9, Pattaya.

 

Our website has been updated.

[PSBG]

Bangkok Investigation Police is receiving formal testimonies from people cheated by this scam. Note that proper id documentation has to be provided and will have to spend at least 2 hours in the process. The testimony has to be made personally. Writen statements are not valid.

 

Those willing to make a formal declaration please contact us for details at info@pattayascam.com.

[PSBG]

Given the number of complains made by businesses in Pattaya teh Police has decided to call Peter Geister to declare againts the complains.

 

The Pattaya Police have visited Peter Geister in his "The Monaco Residence" address. This apartment is used by Peter Geister with another German who denies him all the times that the Police make a visit (more than 3 times so far).

 

Peter Geister has not been seen in Pataya for months becuase he has been adviced that the Police is behind him.

 

Note that Peter Geister is still hidding in "Waterford Rama IV". The Pattaya Police can not look for him in Bangkok.

 

This topic however is still a warning for many tourists, becuase the scam website is still on.

 

While this scam is not taken to account we will continue with our site and with our pressure to the authorities.

 

Please assist by broadcasting our website to your friends and contacts.

[PSBG]

Unfortunatelly the scam still keep trapping people.

 

An Englihs person, names Chris, just bought a golden card and spoke with Peter Geister about the purchase of the website.

 

Chris was warned with time thanks to our website but this demonstrate that the scam is still attempting to sell the assets to some innocent and naive investors.

 

We would appreciate whwther YOU reader can assist us by broadcasting this information to your contacts and friends.

 

Remarkably this scam is still alive and operating.

[PSBG]

The franchise scam has reached its final step. The Sukhumvit and Pattaya branches of this scam are not any longer operating. Pattaya is closing down.

 

This is the final demostration about the franchise scam whose strategy is to make an investor to pay for the building of an unviable branch, make it to fail and to regain the branch through illegal (but hard and expensive to fight in Thailand) contracts.

 

Once this is done, Peter Geister re-sells the branch again. This has been done three times already. Now the only operating branch (only operative thanks to massive cash-in by its owners) felt to the scam.

 

Detailed information about the status of the Franchise scam can be provided at request.

 

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The Discount Card has been inactive and we have no information of new buyers (we hope). The website however is still on and some naive investors have been attracted but they have been adviced on time by us. We wish people read our site before sign any contract with Peter Geister (so far we have been sucessful).

 

This forum has been instrumental in saving many westerners of being fraud.

 

We are aware that the legal case against this scam in Bangkok is active and following the slow process of the Thai legal system.

 

We do not believe that the Pattaya Police will take some serious and long term action against this scam (in spite of the various complains) bacause no formal lawsuit has been lodged against him, so the only way to stop him is to put him out of business.

 

 

 

PSBG

[PSBG]

Last update and evidence.

 

The Tip Top Pattaya branch who was operated by an English couple had to close. The scam successed in sending them out of the business by holding the rental contract.

 

With this Peter Geister spects to to come back in business in Pattaya, probably under a false name.

 

This is another evidence of the evil and premeditated way to cheat investors. His method is to make the investor to fail under any excuse (this time was a premeditated rental agreement), and getting back the construction and infrastructure at 0 cost to re-sell it.

 

We expect to see another form of scam coming from the same address. We will keep the public updated and we expect thet the Police now take some action in teh matter.

[PSBG]

Dear all

 

Please be advised that this website is not any longer available.

 

We are updating new site www.PGWatch.com which will have the story of Peter Geister scams in Thailand and his latest movements.

 

Shortly we will advise of the new website.

 

Perhaps it is not s surprise to you but this scam is back in business in Pattaya, but becuase the Police and the community knows about him now is using a partner, another German living with him in the "The Monaco Residence".

 

We will provide details about him so people can be advised about this new arrangement.

 

Regards

 

 

 

PSBG

[aqua4]

Gets even better.

 

 

Mr. Rene Rojas, originally from South America, a stronghold of drug production and trafficking, but holding an Australian passport, established a company called PSBG in a criminal conspiracy to defame Tip Top to destroy their reputation. A guy from Naklua, using the pseudonym WERNER SCHAUB and his co-conspirators, Rene, Susan & Steven started a blatantly illegal campaign committing the severe crimes of defamation, blackmail, threatening mortal danger and burglary to force TIP TOP into bankruptcy in order to take over the office buildings of TIP TOP in Pattaya, Chiang Mai, Bangkok Silom and Bangkok Sukhumvit for their own dubious purposes and to set up their own CLEANING FRANCHISE COMPANY. Daily psychological terror acts were instituted by spamming abusive emails and letters to force TIP TOP and their staff to give up doing business in Thailand.

 

The successful concept of TIP TOP has been illegally imitated in its entirety. Mr. Rojas, established a company called BANGKOK EXPERTS SERVICES with the support of VIPAVEE ARDRONNATKIT a former TIP TOP accountant together with his son DAVID DARIO ROJAS and UTHAI CHUCHEE (trained by TIP TOP) to perform exactly the same cleaning services as provided by TIP TOP over the past 11 years.

 

http://www.tiptopthailand.com/franchise_crime.html

 

Edited April 27, 2005 by aqua4