Gun ownership in Thailand

[bigfoot 0]

Skytrooper,

Please take your guns to thailand and while your there instead of jumping from a hotel room blow your stupid brains out you imbicile

at ease seargent

 

the foot

[bloodyhell 0]

What do you think they were there for? Idiot .I'm very surprised that you did not see any Kiwis in Vietnam. They were there to support their Allies (and maybe to fight communism) I'm sure that in this day and age that their thoughts on communism has diminished some what.

 

I've called many yanks yanks. Don't be a big girl. Political correctness has gone wild in your USA. I'm not too worried about the sumo either mate.

 

The plausible connection to this thread? Are you for real? You were giving every other nation a hard time about their past war efforts. Think about it mate.I never mentioned Iraq in this context, why do you?

 

You are uninterested in your genealogy prior to 1775. Why, did everything stop there or was it getting to the parts that you don't like. Yes, good lad, pick the part of your history that you like.

 

 

Well you can mark my words old son, go to a RSA in NZ and repeat what you have said and I'm sure that some of the old buggers in there will try for a piece of you.

 

As for the definition of mate. I'm sorry to inform you that the English language does not begin and end in America. Your right there mate, it probably does not appear in "American English" dictionary.

 

I have no connection to other members of this forum. Why do you keep mentioning them?

 

You are not the only person that donated more then they could afford.

 

As for my retraction of dobbing you in..it was probably heat of the moment stuff. I suppose somebody like you has never done this.

 

 

KA MATE! KA MATE! KA ORA, KA ORA! KA MATE! KA MATE! KA ORA, KA ORA! TENEI TE TANGATA PU'RU-HURU NA'A NEI TIKI MAI WHAKA-WHITI TE ... ... RA! HUPANE! KA-UPANE! A HUPANE! KA-UPANE! WHITI TE RA! HI !

 

Te Rauparaha

[Skytrooper 0]

Originally posted by bigfoot:

Skytrooper,

Please take your guns to thailand  and while your there instead of jumping from a hotel room blow your stupid brains out you imbicile  

at ease seargent 

 

the foot

 

[... deep libertarian sigh ... engage dealing with buffoon mode]

 

“Imbicile [sic]?†“Seargent [sic]?†Between your avatar, your atrocious spelling, encouraging another member to commit suicide, etc. you clearly demonstrate who is the imbecile here. I suppose this is what constitutes the behavior of mature, responsible adults in Australia. Where are all the new members railing against gratuitous insults?

 

[... disengage dealing with buffoon mode ...]

 

Originally posted by bloodyhell:

What do you think they were there for? Idiot .I'm very surprised that you did not see any Kiwis in Vietnam. They were there to support their Allies (and maybe to fight communism) I'm sure that in this day and age that their thoughts on communism has diminished some what.

 

I've called many yanks yanks. Don't be a big girl. Political correctness has gone wild in your USA. I'm not too worried about the sumo either mate.

 

The plausible connection to this thread? Are you for real? You were giving every other nation a hard time about their past war efforts. Think about it mate.I never mentioned Iraq in this context, why do you?

 

You are uninterested in your genealogy prior to 1775. Why, did everything stop there or was it getting to the parts that you don't like. Yes, good lad, pick the part of your history that you like.

 

 

Well you can mark my words old son, go to a RSA in NZ and repeat what you have said and I'm sure that some of the old buggers in there will try for a piece of you.

 

As for the definition of mate. I'm sorry to inform you that the English language does not begin and end in America. Your right there mate, it probably does not appear in "American English" dictionary.

 

I have no connection to other members of this forum. Why do you keep mentioning them?

 

You are not the only person that donated more then they could afford.

 

As for my retraction of dobbing you in..it was probably heat of the moment stuff. I suppose somebody like you has never done this.

 

 

KA MATE! KA MATE! KA ORA, KA ORA! KA MATE! KA MATE! KA ORA, KA ORA! TENEI TE TANGATA PU'RU-HURU NA'A NEI TIKI MAI WHAKA-WHITI TE ... ... RA! HUPANE! KA-UPANE! A HUPANE! KA-UPANE! WHITI TE RA! HI !

 

Te Rauparaha

 

1. The reason you’re surprised I didn’t see any Kiwis in Vietnam is because you’re ignorant; not that this deters you from writing on subjects you’re poorly informed about. Due to the vastly larger number of American soldiers in-country and the small quantity of Kiwis and the limited areas they operated in, most U.S. servicemen in Vietnam never saw a Kiwi (or an Aussie) during their tour. As I explained previously on this board, all Aussie and Kiwi combat troops had been withdrawn from RVN before I arrived. I did see an Aussie land rover parked in front of the Long Binh main PX in January 1972 if that counts.

 

2. You are the person who inexplicably brought up the subject of the “attitudes†of New Zealand combat veterans. They were in RVN to “maybe†fight communism? While I can’t recall ever meeting a Kiwi Vietnam veteran, I’ve always got along fine with the Aussie ones I've encountered. Of course, none of them talked nonsense like you and none showed the slightest inclination of wanting “a piece of me.†FWIW, due to my steadfast refusal to adopt the behavior of typical convicts, I was frequently assaulted by sociopathic mesomorphs in various state and federal prisons (more accurately “gladiator schoolsâ€). While these miscreants were always younger and physically stronger, as the prisons’ medical staff can attest, they didn’t fare too well. Like yourself, they shared deficient wit and martial prowess.

 

3. No member of this board exhibits more interest in history than I do. Genealogy is a different matter. In my experience (buttressed by folks on this board), most people obsessed with genealogy have led undistinguished lives and seek to compensate by basking in whatever past accomplishments may have been performed by their ancestors.

 

4. For reasons that should be obvious to anyone with three or more functioning brain cells, I mentioned other members because, despite being new here, you lamentably behave as many of them do and you stated you were in agreement with Bazle that I, with no basis for your allegation, am a psychopath (despite the written evaluation of a clinical psychologist that I'm in perfect mental health and my having passed numerous psychological screening tests in connection with prior employment). BTW, I never suggested I was the “only person†to donate money to the causes I cited. My question, among others you evaded, was why a “psychopath†would contribute money to charities, let alone risk his life to help total strangers. Is there a cogent reason why you failed to answer the questions I asked?

 

5. I’ve been called many disparaging terms (usually by cowards at a safe distance) before, but you have the distinction of being the first person to label me “politically correct.†I’m usually called just the opposite. I never gave “every other nation a hard time about their past war efforts.†I simply stated the “poms and aussies†were fighting for their national survival in World War II. Why does a recognition of objective reality annoy you? The reason why I mentioned Iraq was obvious from the context I used it in. For some undisclosed reason, you appear upset the USA didn’t enter World War II before it was attacked. Most of the “poms and aussies†on this board are angry at the USA for going to war in Iraq without first being attacked. Reasoning ability isn’t one of your stronger traits, is it?

 

6. While I concede I often have trouble deciphering Aussie/Kiwi/Brit gutterspeak, am I to understand you’re now withdrawing your retraction of being an informant and are, once again, a self-professed snitch? No, I’ve “never done this†before. I’ve been locked up with plenty of snitches, however; usually drug dealers who’d sell out their mother in exchange for a 3-day sentence reduction. I’ll leave morally repugnant conduct to you and others of your ilk. Calling me an “idiot†as you did will surely get you a free drink at davethailand’s bar in Pattaya. Regarding the gibberish you ended your last post with, I could write some sage remarks in Sindebele for you, but I don't know what purpose it would serve.

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It is sobering to reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. — Charles A. Beard

 

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. — Edward R. Murrow

 

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for you. — Robert A. Heinlein

[bloodyhell 0]

1) Kiwis and Aussies also gave their lives in Vietnam. Your tone in previous threads makes light of there being in Vietnam at all.Thats the impression you give.

 

2)Why would you bring up sociopathic mesomorphs in jail...WTF? To show how tough you are? Want a piece of you?

 

3)

Genealogy is a different matter. In my experience (buttressed by folks on this board), most people obsessed with genealogy have led undistinguished lives and seek to compensate by basking in whatever past accomplishments may have been performed by their ancestors.

 

When eleven companies of grenadiers and light infantry (the cream of the British army) sought to confiscate privately-held firearms at Lexington and Concord on 19 April 1775, my gallant ancestors killed many of them and chased the survivors back to Boston. They waged a successful revolution so their progeny wouldn’t have to be “poms†and live as you do, as a craven subject of a tyrannical government, with no individual rights, just whatever "privileges" your rulers grant, curtail or withdraw at their whim.

 

Seems you are basking in the sun of a few of your ancestors here.

 

4)Even psychopaths have a good side

 

5)I thought that most nations were fighting for their national survival.What many people find hard to understand, is when a ruthless man like Pol Pot is looked over yet Saddam gets it full blast. For the record, Saddam and his ilk deserve everthing they get.

 

6)You have trouble deciphering Aussie/Kiwi/Brit gutterspeak? No gutterspeak here mate. As I said before, the world does not begin and end in the USA.We find it equally as difficult deciphering Americans at times.Funny how it's called English.

 

And no, I'm not a snitch, but reading what you have written does make me think about it.

 

As for the quote, google it, (or at least the author) You might learn something that does not involve the USA.

[Eneukman 1]

Skytrooper,

 

You quote the 2nd Amendment to the American constitution -

 

The Second Amendment expressly states “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” and forbids any type of anti-gun legislation.

 

Now, lets's take this to extreme circumstances. Let's just say that a terrorist gets his hands on a newly invented super gun that can destroy buildings (and their inhabitants) in seconds. I assume therefore that you would agree that this person has every right to possess what is effectively a weapon of mass destruction.

 

Alan

[Skytrooper 0]

bloodyhell,

 

1. Not only have I never denigrated the military service of any Vietnam veteran (including NVA regulars), I’ve expressly stated the exact opposite of your ludicrous assertion on this board. You, of course, infer what “impressions†you desire to suit your purposes. BTW, I believe that even in gutterspeak, “there†and “they’re†have very different meanings.

 

2. Once again, you brought up the subject of people “wanting a piece†of me. Unlike some other members of this board, I have never referred to myself as “tough.†I simply cited some instances from reality that tend to skewer your baseless assertion. I’m keenly aware how unpopular reality is with many folks here.

 

3. Ever since I was old enough to form my own independent, rational judgments, there’s never been a day I haven’t been enormously grateful for my ancestors’ courage and resolve in revolting against the forces of tyranny. In my own modest way, I’ve sought to emulate their conduct with my military service and civilian activities. It was doing precisely such acts on behalf of the cause of personal freedom that resulted in my being incarcerated for over five years in vile federal gulags. This has nothing to do with genealogy. As annoyed as I am with most of my countrymen, when I look at your ilk across the world as you willingly sacrifice your liberty in exchange for the illusion of safety or out of cowardice and fear, it only reaffirms my zeal not to allow unbridled statism and tyranny to prevail in America.

 

4. Your seriously flawed character is matched by your seriously flawed knowledge of history. Many nations have engaged in wars without “fighting for their national survival.†Your notion is not only erroneous, but downright bizarre. I invite your attention to numerous wars in English history, the U.S.-Mexican War (1846-1848), the Spanish-American War of 1898, the U.S. involvement in World War I (as a consequence of British lies and propaganda), Korea, RVN, Grenada, Panama, the Gulf War, and the current war in Iraq. American “national survival†wasn’t at stake in any of these conflicts.

 

5. As far as Pol Pot, the last time I checked, Cambodia was much closer to Australia and New Zealand than the USA. I’m quite sure Americans didn’t prevent you chaps from intervening in Cambodia. As far as your ever-changing status as a snitch, I can’t keep track of your prevarications. BTW, my knowledge of world (not just U.S.) history, and most other important subjects, exceeds your own by several orders of magnitude. There’s some more unpleasant objective reality for you to assimilate.

 

Eneukman,

 

Contrary to what you once asserted, I’ve never considered you to be “stupid†so I can’t fathom why you persist in trying to convince me otherwise. I’ve already addressed this very point long ago in an OT thread. Purely for the sake of brevity, I’m just going to give a modest reply. Only individual human beings have “rights,†governments have “powersâ€; either legitimate powers delegated by the consent of the people or illegitimate powers of usurpation. The U.S., British, and several other national governments possess nuclear warheads and other weapons now speciously labeled “weapons of mass destruction.â€

 

A government may not legitimately possess a power not conferred by the people. If a government has a lawful power to possess such weapons then, obviously, individual human beings have the right to possess them. A person or group of people (which is all a nation is) cannot delegate a power they personally have no right to. If your government has a lawful power to possess a fusion bomb then you have an individual right to possess the same weapon. I realize how strange this must sound to a “subject†who is no longer “allowed†by his political masters to possess even a single-shot pistol.

 

Does that mean I want Osama bin Laden to possess a nuke? No more than I “want†the French, Indian, Pakistani, Israeli, Chinese or North Korean governments to possess “weapons of mass destruction.†If you do even a casual study of history, you’ll learn that genocide is perpetrated by governments, not private citizens. Osama bin Laden took advantage of the laws you endorse to have his henchmen hijack airliners and convert them into “poor man’s cruise missiles.†That should be of more concern to you than your fictional superweapon.

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We are now involved in a war in this nation, a last-ditch struggle in which the other side contends only the king’s men are allowed to use force or the threat of force, and that any uppity peasant finally rendered so desperate as to use the same kind of armed force routinely employed by our oppressors must surely be a “lone madman†who “snapped for no reason.†— Vin Suprynowicz, The Ballad of Carl Drega (2002)

 

A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. — Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

[rkt 0]

Black Puddings.

I like my Black Puddings ( Bury Black Puddings ) with English mustard and a side salad consisting of, lettuce, onion, horse raddish, cherry tomatoes, baby sweetcorn, strawberries; and slices of orange. Delicious.

 

IF GUNS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE THEM.

As is now the case in the British Isles.

 

[RWB 0]

Alright, now that we have world war III in words (absolutly amazing how brave one can be on the internet), does anyone have the answer to the original question? I really would like to know if a farang can legally own a firearm in Thailand.

 

Skytrooper can piss off the pope(like I could care), but he knows history and the American Constitution/Bill of Rights better than anyone else here. I don't and won't always agree with him, and he does work overtime at pissing people off, but he is right on when it comes to freedom and what keeps people free, it damn sure itsn't the gov't.

 

Just a little quote, "They that give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Benjamin Franklin

 

one more, don't know the writter, "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"

 

I still want to know if a farang can own firearms in Thailand.

[Babepecker 0]

Originally posted by bloodyhell:

 

...

 

1. Purely by accident, you made a correct statement. Spending “many hours with your nose in books” does “mean nothing” about character. Unlike your chum, Bazle, I’ve never posted a lie on this or any other Internet board and never refused to defend my posts with reason, facts, and civil language. This, of course, is irrelevant to you. Your disdain for people who read books will hold you in good stead with many other members who derive great pride in their ignorance.

 

2. “Nips?” If I used that word, a mob would soon form up denouncing me as a racist.

 

3. Unlike you and nearly all other members of this board, I’ve posted my identity and address on several occasions. I’m also not at all surprised that you confess to being an informant. Nor is it a surprise that you don’t “give a rats [sic] arse” about facts, particularly in a criminal case. Boy, did you ever join the right Internet discussion board. Facts, reason, and moral behavior are as unpopular among the riffraff here as they are among typical convicts in prison.

 

4. I understand facts in general, and the U.S. Constitution in particular, mean nothing to a disreputable lout such as yourself, but I’ll go through this again as non-registered members haven’t seen it before. The U.S. Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Any law violative of the Constitution is null and void. That’s not my lowly opinion, but the consistent ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court since their landmark 1803 decision in Marbury v. Madison. The Second Amendment expressly states “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” and forbids any type of anti-gun legislation. In addition, our federal government only has those powers expressly delegated to it (by the people) in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. No power was ever delegated to our government to restrict or prohibit the private ownership of firearms. Unfortunately, for most of the past century, politicians and their appointees in the judiciary have used legal sophistry to ignore or circumvent constitutional safeguards in order to advance their political agenda. An ignorant, apathetic populace (you know the type) more interested in booze, ball games, and rock music than their eroding individual liberties sadly betrayed the blood spilled by their ancestors.

 

5. I was targeted for prosecution in retaliation for my published writings critical of misdeeds by federal agents at Ruby Ridge and Waco. Ex-FBI agents can’t write what I did with impunity. That’s a violation of the First Amendment. Despite having never committed any violent crime, I was denied bail without a hearing; that’s a violation of the Eighth Amendment. The search of my residence was based upon an affidavit replete with 15 pages of perjury; that’s a violation of the Fourth Amendment. I was denied counsel, a violation of the Sixth Amendment, and the government violated three court orders directing the return of my seized funds, thereby preventing me from being able to hire an attorney. I was denied, by court order, a jury trial; that’s another violation of the Sixth Amendment. My bench trial which you cited lasted between two and three minutes as I was still prohibited by court order from speaking in my defense. Due to your blind prejudice, none of this, of course, matters a whit to you.

 

6. I come from a long line of “criminals.” When eleven companies of grenadiers and light infantry (the cream of the British army) sought to confiscate privately-held firearms at Lexington and Concord on 19 April 1775, my gallant ancestors killed many of them and chased the survivors back to Boston. They waged a successful revolution so their progeny wouldn’t have to be “poms” and live as you do, as a craven subject of a tyrannical government, with no individual rights, just whatever "privileges" your rulers grant, curtail or withdraw at their whim.

 

7. I’m supposed to take “American bashing like a man” while you and your ilk squeal like gelded pigs if anyone responds to your insults. Thank you for explaining that.

 

8. As far as my never criticizing the American government, I spent over five years confined in a cage with retarded sociopaths who think precisely as you for doing exactly that. As far as my never criticizing mistakes Americans have made in the past (and today), it’s obvious you’ve never read through my posts in the Member’s Only forums. Your abysmal ignorance, of course, in no way deters you from posting fallacious misstatements. Once again, you surely picked the right board to join.

 

9. Besides my name and address, at the request of members, I’ve disclosed much of my military service and my service as a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. BTW, I resigned my appointment as an FBI agent because I refused to violate my oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, the same document you display such ignorance of and/or contempt for. BTW, most of the “poms and aussies” on this board are harsh critics of the Iraq War. Also, not only did Tony Blair not get “a standing ovation” in my house, I wouldn’t let the statist scoundrel into my house.

 

10. While I'm not your "mate," I look forward to reading about your military combat service. Bazle, Babepecker, spike, VikingInOz, et al. are all strangely reticent to mention their's. I'm particularly interested in your explanation as to why a "psychopath" would volunteer for infantry service in Vietnam in order to try and keep total strangers on the other side of the world from having to live under communist tyranny. This is just one of many questions your chum Bazle won't answer.

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No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. — Thomas Jefferson

 

Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and inalienable rights of man. — Thomas Jefferson

 

Much of the world today and through centuries of history has suffered the terrible consequences of unbridled government power, the prime evil that the writers of the American Constitution sought to guard against. Judges who “interpret” constitutional safeguards out of existence for the sake of some ideological crusade, presidents who over-reach their authority for personal or political reasons, and a Congress whose powers are extended into matters that the Constitution never empowered them to legislate about are all part of the quiet repeal of the American revolution. — Thomas Sowell, The Quest For Cosmic Justice

Skytrooper,

just saving the wisdom...

 

 

Btw, this part definitely qualifies as hillarious:

"Unlike your chum, Bazle, I’ve never posted a lie on this or any other Internet board and never refused to defend my posts with reason, facts, and civil language."

 

 

 

RWB,

I shall add my "2 lipas worth" on "what is it that keeps the people free(?)":

1st and foremost, proper education and awareness of what is happening in the country they live in, directly coupled with the willingness to act in order to preserve their own and their fellow citizens' freedom.

 

IMO, firearms are definitely not essential, around Europe nowadays, should the above be the case.

 

Cheers :D

 

 

 

[Skytrooper 0]

RWB,

 

As I indicated in my initial post in this thread, a simple Google search reveals that tourists may bring firearms and ammunition into Thailand once they secure the necessary cursed government approval in advance. As far as ex-pats living in LOS, I'm sure that information is also readily available to anyone willing to do a bit of research. My armed acquaintances in LOS are more concerned with protecting their lives than with what's "legal."

 

BTW, I don't "work overtime pissing people off." On this board, as in prisons, merely having more intellect than a houseplant, more integrity than a politician, and telling the truth will suffice to incense most cretins. I may have to post more USMC jokes here, however.

 

Originally posted by Babepecker:

RWB,

I shall add my "2 lipas worth" on "what is it that keeps the people free(?)":

1st and foremost, proper education and awareness of what is happening in the country they live in, directly coupled with the willingness to act in order to preserve their own and their fellow citizens' freedom.

 

IMO, firearms are definitely not essential, around Europe nowadays, should the above be the case.

 

Rather than work on increasing your English comprehension, I suggest you concentrate on history and improving your character and reasoning ability. Many of the German and other Jews who walked into Nazi extermination camps were highly educated. Ignoring the small detail of vicious hoodlums (as you invariably do), having a "willingness to act in order to preserve their own and their fellow citizens' freedom" is of scant value if you're unarmed and helpless in the face of armed oppressors.

 

I know you're not stupid, so I wish you'd cease ignoring reality solely to promote your statist political agenda (which is contemptuous of genuine human liberty). The Armenians had a "willingness to act," but that only benefited the small minority who disobeyed Turkish laws disarming them; "law abiding" Armenians are a footnote in history under "genocide victims."

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The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools. — Thucydides

 

It is not only the juror’s right, but his duty to find the verdict according to his own understanding, judgment and conscience, though in direct opposition to the instruction of the court. — John Adams, 1771

 

All we ask is to be left alone. — Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America, 1861

 

Any government that is the exclusive judge to the limits of its own power is in effect a tyranny. — James Ronald Kennedy and Walter Donald Kennedy, The South Was Right! (1995)

[Kev 178]

bloodyhell,

 

I no more than mention the prevalence of ignorant, vulgar, amoral miscreants on this board than Kev makes an appearance. What serendipitous timing.

 

Besides taking uncommon pride in his ignorance, profanity, and immaturity, he's another descendant of penally-transported English highwaymen (although he prefers to call them "bush rangers"). You won't have to worry about Kev spending too many hours with his "nose in books." A Hustler magazine, perhaps, but not worthwhile books.

 

Originally posted by Kev:

 

 

If you really want to examine a genuine "wasted space," check out the area between your ears.

 

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Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state. — Thomas Jefferson

 

No nation ancient or modern ever lost the liberty of freely speaking, writing, or publishing their sentiments, but forthwith lost their liberty in general and became slaves. — John Peter Zenger

 

Liberty is defended in three stages: The ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. — Ambrose Bierce

Did I mention anyone in particular?

 

[bigfoot 0]

SKYTROOPER = PISTON PILOT

[VikingInOz 0]

VikingInOz,

seems like the worthy (and supernaturally powerful, though he shall deny it ) Skytrooper has decided to predestine us to become chums, some time in the future.

 

So, in its name: živjeli and skoll

 

 

Babepecker,

 

Looking forward to it!

 

Skål

 

 

VB

[bloodyhell 0]

Skytrooper,

 

QUOTE

Genealogy is a different matter. In my experience (buttressed by folks on this board), most people obsessed with genealogy have led undistinguished lives and seek to compensate by basking in whatever past accomplishments may have been performed by their ancestors.

 

QUOTE

When eleven companies of grenadiers and light infantry (the cream of the British army) sought to confiscate privately-held firearms at Lexington and Concord on 19 April 1775, my gallant ancestors killed many of them and chased the survivors back to Boston. They waged a successful revolution so their progeny wouldn’t have to be “poms†and live as you do, as a craven subject of a tyrannical government, with no individual rights, just whatever "privileges" your rulers grant, curtail or withdraw at their whim.

 

 

 

Just answer the question, 10 words or less would be great.

 

One minute you are talking about how proud you are of you ANCESTORS' in 1775, the next thing you are talking about people being obsessed about genealogy. Is this because you are embarrassed about where you roots really are? As I said before..just answer the question.

 

Who gives a shit which country is closer.Why would you mention that? NZ is not the worlds policeman. Again, just answer the question, why was the USA so quick in the hunt for Saddam, and did nothing about Pol Pot.

 

 

Your knowledge of world events are indeed superior to mine,but I guarantee I know more about your country than you will ever know about mine.

 

It never ceases to amaze me how people like yourself thinks that the world begins and ends in their own country.

 

You mentioned how you put some people in the prison hospital, after an incident. Why would you tell me that if you were not trying to show how "tough" you were?

 

Now lets try and answer these questions in a concise and straight forward manner, without calling people nasty names.

 

There's a good chap.

[bloodyhell 0]

RLB,

 

This is what I have been told, so it's second hand

 

There is actually a way of owning guns here. Normally through a gun club that is controlled by the Army.

 

To be able to take a gun home from the club, I have been told that you must be a permanent resident and own a company to have this privilege.However, as you know, you can do or get anything here if you have the money.

 

As for the importation of fire arms, I do not have a clue.I imagine it would be very hard to do so without greasing the right palms.This would be regardless on what the Law states.

[Skytrooper 0]

Originally posted by bigfoot:

SKYTROOPER = PISTON PILOT

 

You’re not the first amoral twit here to baselessly accuse me of being someone I’m not. I know facts are irrelevant to you, but I’ve posted my identity several times and at least twice other members posted links to the 8th Circuit’s ruling on the appeal in my federal firearms case. At the time this “Piston Pilot†of your’s was writing on this board, I was confined in a federal gulag in Minnesota, specifically FCI, Sandstone. That’s a matter of public record. If you think I was allowed access to a computer while in federal custody, let alone the Internet, then you possess less intelligence than Kev, which is truly sad, even for an Aussie.

 

bloodyhell,

 

1. I don’t attempt to control either the length or content of your posts; kindly do not attempt to control mine. The most I’ve ever asked of other members is to refrain from needless lies and profanity; not that my requests were ever honored.

 

2. The fact I’m proud Americans had the courage and resolve to revolt against the tyranny of the most powerful nation then in existence has nothing to do with other members here who clearly exhibit an obsession with their genealogy. I’ve discussed this topic in great detail previously on this board. As I’m routinely condemned for repeating myself, I’ll pass on doing so again. If you’re bored, you may research this point yourself.

 

3. It should be obvious “who gives a shit which country is closer†to Cambodia and why I “mentioned that.†People, and nations, generally take actions out of their own self-interest. Bill Clinton (may he burn in Hell) was ready to invade Haiti in 1993-1994 due to its close location to the USA (mostly to curry favor from the Congressional Black Caucus); he wasn’t willing to send one American soldier to Rwanda. If Aussies and/or Kiwis weren’t willing to intervene to stop genocide occurring in their neighborhood, why do you expect Americans on the other side of the world to send troops there? When the USA intervenes in countries where our vital national interests are not at stake, foreigners denounce us as the “worlds [sic] policeman.†If the USA doesn’t intervene, we’re branded a bunch of uncaring isolationists. As far as Saddam Hussein, that issue has also already been beat to death on this board, which you’d know if you did a bit of research.

 

4. The fact my “knowledge of world events†(and most other important subjects) is “indeed superior†to your own is no great achievement. Your “guarantee†of knowing more about New Zealand than I do is based solely upon wishful thinking. I routinely have to correct misstatements foreign members here post about their countries. The fact you possess some knowledge of the USA is also no major feat. A Botswana tribesman in the middle of the Okavango Delta is likely to possess some knowledge of the USA while being unable to locate New Zealand on a world map.

 

5. Once again, you brought up the subject of people “wanting a piece†of me. The fact every person who’s tried to “get a piece†of me has failed miserably is not due to my being “tough.†It was a consequence of their poor judgment and my possessing superior intellect and martial prowess. The four jarheads my friend Hector and I laid out on the floor of a bar at the Bien Hoa VNAF base in July 1972 (while a fifth Marine ran for his life) were all “tougher†than I am. But, being jarheads, they were none too bright (or moral) and thought they could abuse a Vietnamese woman in the presence of two Cav troopers. As RWB (not RLB) can attest, there’s nothing unusual about Marines making errors in judgment. It's virtually a way of life for them.

 

6. As far as “nasty names,†unlike many other members here, I have never used obscene language when referring to any other member, even those who commonly use vulgar names against me. Nor have I ever made baseless, false accusations as bigfoot recently did above. If a member clearly demonstrates he’s a twit, buffoon, statist, liar, etc. then I will not hesitate to use applicable terms when addressing or referring to him.

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Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. — Benjamin Franklin

 

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. — Thomas Jefferson

[bloodyhell 0]

Skytrooper,

 

You answer questions like a politition.

 

nuff said

[Skytrooper 0]

Originally posted by bloodyhell:

Skytrooper,

 

You answer questions like a politition.

 

nuff said

 

I presume by "politition" [sic] you actually mean "politician." Now, who's calling people "nasty names?"

 

Politicians, by nature and to assure their reelection, consistently ignore the U.S. Constitution, betray their sworn oaths, and lie incessantly. Don't let the fact I steadfastly refuse to behave in that manner keep you from insulting me as you did. As I stated previously, you're going to fit right in on this board.

 

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I had to explain to somebody yesterday why I don’t fly. “Because I refuse to run the TSA Gestapo gauntlet,†I said.

 

“But why?†the person asked.

 

My first flash of impulse was to answer sarcastically. “Because I might kill the goons.â€

 

Then I realized the much sadder truth — that I don’t fly because I wouldn’t kill the goons. Which might say something about my (and most everyone else’s) basic good sense and humanity. But says something terrible about any pretentions we have to real courage or determination to be free. — Claire Wolfe

[bloodyhell 0]

Skytrooper,

 

This will be my last post to you on this subject.I'm sure the members here will sigh with relief.

 

Of all your posts on this forum about pattaya, 90% are of a political nature and nothing about Pattaya or the night life. I have fallen for this trap as well. It will not continue.

 

You were convicted of illegally possessing 69 guns, 60,000 rounds of ammo and explosive material.

 

 

You also obtained a gun using a fake drivers licence.

 

You waived your right to a jury trial and agreed to present your case to a U.S. District Judge.

 

You represented yourself for most your District court appearance, firing your court-appointed lawyer after she requested a psychiatric evaluation without your consent

 

Did you want to start a war somewhere?Were you about to go postal? 68 guns not enough for you?

 

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[VikingInOz 0]

Nor have I ever made baseless, false accusations as bigfoot recently did above.

Oh really?

 

So what's this then?

VikingInOz, your Norwegian socialist chum

 

Where are the facts? Are you nothing but an immoral liar?

 

 

VB

[Skytrooper 0]

bloodyhell,

 

Thank you for your pledge to no longer post in this thread. Allow me to correct a few of your misstatements:

 

1. Many individual Americans own hundreds of firearms in their collections. I once owned 104. As difficult as it may be for hoplophobes such as yourself to understand, a person may only effectively use one firearm at a time. A person who owns a thousand guns is no more or less dangerous than a person who only possesses one (or none). Killing is a matter of will, not weapons.

 

2. The figure of 60,000 "rounds of ammunition" you cited relying on bogus BATF figures includes thousands of primers and other reloading components, not actual cartridges. This fact was established in court.

 

3. What you refer to as "explosive material" were some 1-lb. cans of FFFG black powder, propellant for a Ruger "Old Army" black powder revolver. The can of gasoline for my lawn mower and propane cylinders for my campstove were more dangerous.

 

4. You conveniently neglected to mention that District Court judge (and Clinton appointee) Lawrence L. Piersol, acting upon the request of the prosecutor, issued an order prohibiting me from speaking on any subject relevant to my defense during trial. I was specifically forbidden to mention the U.S. Constitution, the illegality of any federal statute, any illegal act by any federal agent, the voluminous perjury contained in the affidavit for a search warrant, the rights and duties of jurors, and other pertinent topics. I "waived" a jury trial since there was no point in my disrupting the lives of 70 prospective jurors when I was barred from speaking to them. I desperately wanted a trial by jury which is precisely why the court and prosecution denied me one. I was also prohibited from speaking during my bench trial, which accounts for why it only lasted 2 to 3 minutes.

 

5. I neither hired or "fired" the "court-appointed lawyer" you mentioned. She was dismissed by the court. Besides knowing less about jurisprudence in general, and federal anti-gun laws in particular, than I did at age twelve, she sought (without my knowledge or consent) a psychological evaluation because I refused her solicitation to become a BATF informant. I realize you can't imagine a human being refusing to rat out other decent people simply because they choose to possess a firearm in exchange for not going to prison, but I'm not like you. I derive great comfort from that fact. BTW, you also failed to mention this lawyer was later sanctioned by the South Dakota Bar Association for her misconduct in my case. I wouldn't allow that woman to represent me over a jaywalking citation.

 

6. You also conveniently neglected to mention that the Feds disobeyed three court orders directing the return of all of my money they seized, thereby preventing me from being able to hire a competent private attorney. The same judge who zealously enforced his order forbidding me to speak in my own defense curiously refused to enforce any of his orders against the government. Besides ignoring the overt unconstitutionality of the statutes in question, you also failed to mention that the only reason I was prosecuted was in retaliation for my published writings which infuriated various top DOJ & BATF officials. At sentencing, the judge castigated my (perfectly truthful) articles even though they'd never been introducted as evidence and without explaining how he came to have read them. Finally, you neglected to mention the evidence fabricated by BATF agents which, when I exposed in court, the judge dismissed (without sanctioning any federal agent for felony evidence tampering).

 

Again, the pride you take in being ignorant and your willingness to pontificate on subjects you know precious little about while denigrating decent human beings will hold you in good stead on this board.

 

VikingInOz,

 

Yes, really.

 

How many times do I have to repeat this for you? You profess to being Norwegian. You've admitted Babepecker is your "chum." The content of many of your posts reveal you to be a socialist. How, therefore, is it a lie to refer to you as Babepecker's Norwegian socialist chum? You've been particuarly dense lately. I surely wouldn't object to you calling me your American libertarian enemy.

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Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom. — Thomas Jefferson

 

A gun in the hands of a free man frightens and angers the autocrat, not because he fears the power of the gun, but, rather, the spirit of the man who holds it. — Unknown

 

I think that if you do even a cursory reading of 20th century history, you can’t help but come away with a somewhat skeptical attitude towards government power. But it really doesn’t have to grow out of any fundamental philosophical or political belief system. Really it’s very simple—if there’s a big beast that keeps running around eating people, then you can see that it ought to be caged or done away with. You don’t need to base that opinion on any kind of belief system. — Neal Stephenson, SFX magazine, January 1996

[VikingInOz 0]

How many times do I have to repeat this for you? You profess to being Norwegian. You've admitted Babepecker is your "chum." The content of many of your posts reveal you to be a socialist. How, therefore, is it a lie to refer to you as Babepecker's Norwegian socialist chum?

No, no, no

 

You may repeat this as many times as you like - it still doesn't make it any more "true".

 

I have not professed to be a Norwegian. Please show the proof. I used the term "chum" only after you first did, and only as a joke, one which you failed to understand, probably (and only in my humble opinion of course), because of your seriously lacking sense of humour.

 

You may regard the contents of my posts to be "revealing me as a socialist". However, this will only then be in your opinion and not based on facts. According to several of your own postings here on this board, stating baseless "facts" constitutes lying, thus rendering you immoral.

 

 

You've been particuarly dense lately.

Here we go again. Fact or opinion?

 

 

I surely wouldn't object to you calling me your American libertarian enemy.

Thanks, I think you're most kind. However, as you are merely a citizen of the USofA, it is my opinion that it would be most denigrating to the rest of the inhabitants of the American continent if you were to represent them in any way.

 

As for you being my enemy, I don't use that word easily, and only when there's also a real threat present. You do not constitute a threat to my person or anyone I care about, so I choose to refrain. I'll keep this in mind though.

 

VB

[Skytrooper 0]

VikingInOz,

 

If you're not Norwegian, you might want to change Oslo, Norway from the location you cite in your member profile, remove the Norwegian flag from your member ID, and delete your many past posts about Norway and Norwegians, especially your Viking ancestors. You called Babepecker your "chum" (which I'm sure you regret now) so don't try to obfuscate that admission.

 

"Merely a citizen of the USofA?" People risk their lives and many die all the time in trying to get here to live. I don't believe that to be the case with Norway.

 

I am most definitely your enemy. I am an enemy to every oath-breaking minion of tyranny on Earth and every statist such as yourself who spits on the concept of unalienable individual rights for the sake of a vile political agenda. Oh, yes. I am your enemy. I derive great comfort from that fact. At one time NVA regulars were also my enemy. The principal difference, however, is that they, unlike you, were worthy of a measure of respect. Not that this interfered with my killing them.

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In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. — Thomas Jefferson

 

I am sure there was no man born marked of God above another for none comes into the world with a saddle upon his back, neither any booted and spurred to ride him. — Last words of Richard Rumbold before being hanged for planning an insurrection against the tyrant Charles II, 1679

 

Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. — Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason (1795)

[VikingInOz 0]

If you're not Norwegian, you might want to change Oslo, Norway from the location you cite in your member profile, remove the Norwegian flag from your member ID, and delete your many past posts about Norway and Norwegians, especially your Viking ancestors. You called Babepecker your "chum" (which I'm sure you regret now) so don't try to obfuscate that admission.

I can put whatever information I want in my profile and post whatever I want about whichever country I want. You are not the police of this board and cannot ask me to remove anything. FYI, the vikings originate from several countries in Scandinavia (but of course, you with your vast knowledge and superior wit was already aware of this, you only conviniently "forgot" this fact to support your argument). No proof so far, but I'll play along. So, just for the sake of argument, that leaves "socialist" then. Care to prove that, or are you willing to take back this baseless statement and restore your honour?

 

"Merely a citizen of the USofA?" People risk their lives and many die all the time in trying to get here to live. I don't believe that to be the case with Norway.

As I am not one of those poor people you claim to exist, to me you are merely a citizen of the USofA. Nothing more, nothing less - and certainly not a representative for the whole American continent.

 

 

I am most definitely your enemy

I may be your enemy, and you may feel threatened by me, but you are certainly not my enemy. I thank you not to choose my enemies and battles for me.

Oh, yes. I am your enemy. At one time NVA regulars were also my enemy.

Take a careful look at the above. Which is it? Am I your enemy, or are you my enemy? Make your mind up, mate!

 

 

Not that this interfered with my killing them.

Are you threatening me? Ooooh, now I'm scared - not

Pathetic

 

 

VB

[Skytrooper 0]

VikingInOz,

 

Yes, you're perfectly free to post whatever false information you want in your member profile. You're certainly experienced at posting falsehoods. BTW, I may "ask" you or anyone else to do anything. That doesn't require the "police." Personally, if I were going to inexplicably pretend to be a citizen of another nation than my own, there are better choices than Norway.

 

The "countries" you referred to didn't exist as independent political states in the modern sense at the time of the Vikings, but you rarely let reality interfere with your posts. Since you've confessed to posting false information about yourself, my "honor" is scarcely in jeopardy at the hands of a miscreant too fearful to reveal his true identity (which is already known to many members) or answer simple, straightforward questions.

 

The many Cubans, Haitians, Mexicans, and people from other nations who died while trying to reach freedom in the USA are just people I "claim to exist?" You're really a piece of work.

 

A person who restricts his fighting to posting lies and insults on the Internet (that would be you) doesn't participate in genuine "battles." It's no wonder you refuse to discuss your (nonexistent?) military service. I've never claimed to be "a representative for the whole American continent" (there are actually two American continents, North and South, but I realize Europeans are weak on geography) and, predictably, you neglected to explain your bizarre assertion.

 

How does the fact I killed enemy soldiers in RVN (and a few other countries) remotely constitute a "threat" to you? Besides displaying worse spelling than usual ("conviniently" [sic] ?), your recent posts have been more deranged than normal. As I've posted previously, I have never threatened anyone in my life. As Sarik of Vulcan stated, "Threats are illogical." Rational people either do something or decline to do something; they don't provide their adversaries with advance warning.

 

BTW, have you ever placed your liberty, let alone your life, on the line to protect anything other than your own miserable existence? No, I didn't think so. You have plenty of company on this board.

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War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight; nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety; is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions and blood of better men than himself. — John Stuart Mill

 

We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. — George Orwell

 

The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops. — Noah Webster, 1787