Sky-Top has limited availablity Xmas-New Year

[Fonz 0]

Hairs are for the splitting of.

Sorry couldn`t resist

[BigDUSA 71]

In other words, you don't have a clue whether it represents good value or not.

 

Of course it represents good value. It's clean, newly renovated with non slip tiles in the bathroom. In room safe, TV, AC, fridge and a great location on 2nd Road. Good selection of rooms at various price points from a small room for 450, medium and large room priced up to 800 baht per night.

 

Unlike you, I've actually stayed at Sky-Top and I've compared it to other guest houses in the area, Tropical Bert's and the Queen Vic come to mind and they are all good value for the money.

[Emil 0]

I could give pricing that was current as of last July or the punter could go on Sky-Top's website and get up to date pricing. For the long stay guest he can negotiate price with the owner and this will vary with low or high season stay.

 

I don't know why you waited this long to post something that doesn't shed any light on the question. When I originally asked I thought you might give a prior price or that Jack who was posting on this same topic would tell us what he paid. I guess it's a big secret or it doesn't come close to other properties located in Pattaya.

 

And please don't tell me like you did Tom about the good value for the daily rate as I don't question the value of the daily rate.

Edited November 15, 2007 by Emil

[BigDUSA 71]

I don't know why you waited this long to post something that doesn't shed any light on the question. When I originally asked I thought you might give a prior price or that Jack who was posting on this same topic would tell us what he paid. I guess it's a big secret or it doesn't come close to other properties located in Pattaya.

 

If you want Jack to tell you what he paid. Why not ask him? I don't have a clue what he paid as I never asked.

[Emil 0]

If you want Jack to tell you what he paid. Why not ask him? I don't have a clue what he paid as I never asked.

 

 

I thought I did that indirectly on this topic and I never inferred that you should know what he paid. However I am very surprised that you haven't at least mentioned a monthly price (even if it was in the past) to give boardmembers a ballpark figure considering that you hype this place so much. When Soi 7 and I used to walk around Pattaya and saw a new place open we always asked about the daily rate and monthly rate to pass that info along to others. If you don't know then just say you don't know. If you know of a prior monthly rate then state it and say thats what the rate was at such and such a time. What the big deal?

[jackcorbett 2]

I had the largest room at the old Sky-Top. This room normally went for 650 baht per night but as I was paying by the month I got a modest discount, not earthshaking but definitely worthwhile. I did not pay for my power (including air) (many places charging a monthly rate do), and to top things off I got from Pete free internet in my room. Pete of course has the Internet cafe downstairs, so what I did is I attached a wireless access point to his his hub and then I put another wireless access point in my room on the top floor. I attached a desktop computer to this and also used the wireless access point with my laptop computer. No one else had this arrangement with Pete, but had I not made this deal with Pete my monthly rate would have been discounted substantially more. I also want to mention that my particular room was actually two rooms, a bedroom with a doorway that was curtained off from my living room. I'd say the whole thing was approximately 40 square meters, the same size as many "condos" some guys are getting, and that I had some cooking facilities, a microwave provided, and an in-room safe. I lived here for one month, then went back to the U.S. for several months, came back to stay two months during which time I purchased the condo here at Wongamat Beach, went back to the U.S. to sell most of my guns, my car and pickup, furniture, etc and after three months I moved back to Pattaya intending to stay several months while the condo was getting completed. But it was not completed in November. I had to wait until early April before I was able to move in so I had a much longer stay at Sky-Top and with Pete than I intended. So guys, trust me, Sky-Top was a pretty comfortable existence for me. On the last stint of living there I stayed from August 3rd until April 1 and had moved a substantial portion of my book collection there from the U.S. which included an entire set of Encyclopedia Britannica, the Time Life Series of World War II, the Time Life series on the American Civil War and a lot more. So you can imagine me surrounded by my personal library, my two computers (both online), staying for long long time, and as for Pete, well, let me just say this, we are still very good friends, so what more is there to be said about him--at least from me?

[Emil 0]

I had the largest room at the old Sky-Top. This room normally went for 650 baht per night but as I was paying by the month I got a modest discount, not earthshaking but definitely worthwhile. I did not pay for my power (including air) (many places charging a monthly rate do), and to top things off I got from Pete free internet in my room. Pete of course has the Internet cafe downstairs, so what I did is I attached a wireless access point to his his hub and then I put another wireless access point in my room on the top floor. I attached a desktop computer to this and also used the wireless access point with my laptop computer. No one else had this arrangement with Pete, but had I not made this deal with Pete my monthly rate would have been discounted substantially more. I also want to mention that my particular room was actually two rooms, a bedroom with a doorway that was curtained off from my living room. I'd say the whole thing was approximately 40 square meters, the same size as many "condos" some guys are getting, and that I had some cooking facilities, a microwave provided, and an in-room safe. I lived here for one month, then went back to the U.S. for several months, came back to stay two months during which time I purchased the condo here at Wongamat Beach, went back to the U.S. to sell most of my guns, my car and pickup, furniture, etc and after three months I moved back to Pattaya intending to stay several months while the condo was getting completed. But it was not completed in November. I had to wait until early April before I was able to move in so I had a much longer stay at Sky-Top and with Pete than I intended. So guys, trust me, Sky-Top was a pretty comfortable existence for me. On the last stint of living there I stayed from August 3rd until April 1 and had moved a substantial portion of my book collection there from the U.S. which included an entire set of Encyclopedia Britannica, the Time Life Series of World War II, the Time Life series on the American Civil War and a lot more. So you can imagine me surrounded by my personal library, my two computers (both online), staying for long long time, and as for Pete, well, let me just say this, we are still very good friends, so what more is there to be said about him--at least from me?

 

Did I misss something here, or is the monthly rate you paid typed in stealth? This is beginning to look like a political campaign debate where one gets alot of talk but no answers.

Edited November 18, 2007 by Emil

[jackcorbett 2]

Emil.....I don't know if Pete wants my rate to be blabbed all over the universe or not. Perhaps he doesn't care at all. In any case, I would think you or anyone here can get as good a rate as I did. Perhaps not. Perhaps he sees me as a man who is always true to his word, pays his bills on time and is a straight shooter. A lot of people won't. And of course there's always the people who don't give a damn about anyone else or doing what would be considered a reasonable request. Example in point.....in the condo building I bought into I have a Norwegian friend up on the 5th floor. He runs his air conditioner all the time. He will sit on his deck with his pals drinking beer with his air conditioner running full tilt with the doors to his deck wide open thus air conditioning the entire outdoors. I can only imagine how horrendous his power bill is. So suppose you were like my Norwegian pal and ran your air conditioner full on with all your windows open. Pete was absorbing my power bill and he would be absorbing yours also. You might be costing Pete $100 more in power bills simply because you are not as responsible as I am. Or perhaps you won't be running the air conditioner at all and be a cheaper guest than me. Or perhaps I have a live in girlfriend who always keeps my room neat for me. So Pete does not have to have his cleaning help clean my room. So he saves money there. Or perhaps he has had a guest stay at his place before and the guy is a real pig and Pete's having to tie his cleaning help up cleaning the room far more than is necessary.

 

Go ahead and call Pete about any discounted prices he might give you. That will between you two. But I think he'd prefer that I keep my business with him quiet for the excellent reasons I've just mentioned above.

[Emil 0]

Jack,

 

That's fine if you don't want to disclose what you paid and I doubt that anyone would get a rate like yours as you stayed mulitple months. At 650 a night back then and it appears that rate has increased then your looking at 19,500 a month which I don't consider a low rate or even close to a low rate. The point I was trying to make is how can anyone recommend this place for a month stay when no one is providing any rates to compare. I agree that this place is a decent budget hotel for a short stay but for anyone to recommend it for a monthly stay and not provide any cost details is irresponsible. The last 3 places that I've stayed for a month I got a 50% discount (that included utilities and daily maid service) and the other 2 I received a 67% discount but I had to pay utilities and maid service was weekly. I'm now in a new 1 bedroom appartment paying 11,300 a month and utilities last month were about 700 baht. I didn't do any extensive searches for these places, they are out there if one gets of their ass and looks. Last week I saw a place that's up near you on Naklua Rd near soi 12. Vela Casa at 4,900 a month with swiming pool, fitness and internet. I know its smaller than what you had but one could get 2 rooms for 9,800 and that way you would have 2 bathrooms which always comes in handly when you have a live in whether Thai or falang.

[Obsession 571]

Jack,

 

That's fine if you don't want to disclose what you paid and I doubt that anyone would get a rate like yours as you stayed mulitple months. At 650 a night back then and it appears that rate has increased then your looking at 19,500 a month which I don't consider a low rate or even close to a low rate. The point I was trying to make is how can anyone recommend this place for a month stay when no one is providing any rates to compare. I agree that this place is a decent budget hotel for a short stay but for anyone to recommend it for a monthly stay and not provide any cost details is irresponsible. The last 3 places that I've stayed for a month I got a 50% discount (that included utilities and daily maid service) and the other 2 I received a 67% discount but I had to pay utilities and maid service was weekly. I'm now in a new 1 bedroom appartment paying 11,300 a month and utilities last month were about 700 baht. I didn't do any extensive searches for these places, they are out there if one gets of their ass and looks. Last week I saw a place that's up near you on Naklua Rd near soi 12. Vela Casa at 4,900 a month with swiming pool, fitness and internet. I know its smaller than what you had but one could get 2 rooms for 9,800 and that way you would have 2 bathrooms which always comes in handly when you have a live in whether Thai or falang.

I couldnt get booked until I saw this thread, and therefore cant understand your critisism. The thread drew everyones attention to some availability, and a short email would get you a price quote. imho, this was a helpful thread. He will maybe think twice about being helpful again if he is just going to get stick for it.

Thanks for the info on,vela casa. Sounds like a good deal.

[BigDUSA 71]

I couldnt get booked until I saw this thread, and therefore cant understand your critisism. The thread drew everyones attention to some availability, and a short email would get you a price quote. imho, this was a helpful thread. He will maybe think twice about being helpful again if he is just going to get stick for it.

Thanks for the info on,vela casa. Sounds like a good deal.

 

According to Pete the owner of Sky-Top there's still two rooms left for Xmas-New years if one needs a room.

[Emil 0]

I couldnt get booked until I saw this thread, and therefore cant understand your critisism. The thread drew everyones attention to some availability, and a short email would get you a price quote. imho, this was a helpful thread. He will maybe think twice about being helpful again if he is just going to get stick for it.

Thanks for the info on,vela casa. Sounds like a good deal.

 

 

There is no critisism about the thread except when you begin to talk about this place as a bargain for monthly stays. Sounds like a good place for a short stay but how can you decide if this place is a bargain for long term when no one has mentioned a monthly price.

[jackcorbett 2]

Emil.....I never said this was a bargain for a monthly stay. Big D said, "Unlike you, I've actually stayed at Sky-Top and I've compared it to other guest houses in the area, Tropical Bert's and the Queen Vic come to mind and they are all good value for the money."

 

We are both saying is that Skytop is a very well located place and that it can be had at very reasonable cost. Now, I think I've said in here somewhere that a room can be had for as low as 400 baht per night...without air that is. And I believe this room can be had with air for 450 baht a night. That represents a very good price. Are there cheaper places in town? Why sure. My pal Ross is just up the street from me paying 6000 baht a month. He does have to pay his utilities however. And he walks up to the fourth floor. Well......you are not going to beat Ross's monthly rate at Skytop. But David will. David pays just 5000 baht a month for a place that is East of Carre Four, but I sure like Ross's setup a lot better. But I stayed a total of 11 months at Sky-Top and don't regret a single minute of it and don't mind the fact that I could have stayed elsewhere cheaper.

 

But whatever rate Pete works out at Skytop is between him and the customer as far as discounted monthly rates. I gave my reasons once and since then I've talked to Pete about it and he agrees with me so it looks like you are going to just have to make that phone call yourself. Here's the web site Big D listed here earlier Sky-Top web site

 

Here's the phone number 038-427509 So make that call, Emil. And here's the e-mail address for you. Skytop2003@hotmail.com The rest is up to you because believe it or not neither Big D or I are getting any commissions from Pete to do this work for you.

Edited November 24, 2007 by jackcorbett

[joekicker 53]

There is no critisism about the thread except when you begin to talk about this place as a bargain for monthly stays.

 

Yeah, I know, I could just ignore it once again. But this won't abuse The Children™, make you fat or contribute to global warming, so phuock it. Fact is that you are the only person on this board, the only person in the world who knows if the place is a bargain, for monthly stays or otherwise. The OP said there are some rooms available for the holidays, and gave his opinion about that FACT. He's not the owner, not the manager, he's a guy with (useful) information and an opinion. He has absolutely no responsibility to the board, to me, to you. He's posted what he posted, he answered you what he's going to answer. Live with it.

 

Why do you keep droning on about something unconnected with the OP and which you could find out with a single email? Why is anyone else responsible for finding out information for you? Why is anyone here responsible for determining whether it's a bargain? Over and over and over, that is?

 

If you really want to know, go find out. We're all well educated in your point by now, such as it was once but not any more. Me, I think information is liberating and I'm thankful for what the OP did, and not at all hurt, pixxed off or vengeful about what he DIDN'T do and I can't grasp why you keep beating this long-expire equine.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Joe,

 

The OP stated that the guest house has rooms available for a decent price. The point is, as he himself has confirmed, that he hasn't a clue whether they are a decent price or not because he is unaware of what the prices are likely to be. He assumes that they will be a decent price, that's all.

 

Of course, the owner is a member of the forum and is aware of the contents of this thread. The easiest thing would be for him to post what the rates are (either on here or on the website) so folk could decide whether it was a decent price, or not.

[jackcorbett 2]

Already got that done for you, Tom. I called Pete, got the price information from him personally over the phone and then I stated them on this web site. Unfortunately for Pete, his web site does not have the information down correctly and I told him so. But......if you do need confirmation of all this work I'd done let your fingers do your walking. The same phone number applies to you as it applies to Emile. Neither Big D and I are travel agents, we are not getting paid for this, so I"m thinking of conspiring with Denny so we can co-author a book together. This can serve a dual purpose. First, our opinions will be much more respected. After all, everyone will now have to pay for what they are now getting for free from us. They have to buy the book after all. This will give us instant credibility not to mention cash, and we won't have to sit around here having to explain ourselves over and over in an endless procession of time wasting repetitious posting as if this whole exercise is a debate.

[joekicker 53]

The OP stated that the guest house has rooms available for a decent price. The point is, as he himself has confirmed, that he hasn't a clue whether they are a decent price or not because he is unaware of what the prices are likely to be. He assumes that they will be a decent price, that's all.

 

Yep, I agree that the OP stated that IN HIS OPINION he got a decent price.

 

He refused to tell you what it was, over and over AND OVER and told you why he refused over and over AND OVER.

 

You and Emil have told us this pair of obvious facts which the OP has restated over and over AND OVER -- well, over and over AND OVER.

 

He isn't going to tell you what that price was.

 

And in any case, he is incapable of deciding if the price is decent to you. He got a decent price and that is indisputable. What you think of it is up to you.

 

Live with it. Even though you are not destroying trees or spewing heat into the atmosphere, live with it.

Edited November 24, 2007 by joekicker

[Emil 0]

Why do you keep droning on about something unconnected with the OP and which you could find out with a single email? Why is anyone else responsible for finding out information for you? Why is anyone here responsible for determining whether it's a bargain? Over and over and over, that is?

 

If you really want to know, go find out. We're all well educated in your point by now, such as it was once but not any more. Me, I think information is liberating and I'm thankful for what the OP did, and not at all hurt, pixxed off or vengeful about what he DIDN'T do and I can't grasp why you keep beating this long-expire equine.

 

Go back and reread the thread. I originally posted that I had never heard of a monthly rate from anyone on this board about the Skytop. Even from those who have stated that Skytop is a good hotel for value. If they don't want to provide that figure then ignore my post, don't quote it with something that is irrelevant. How the hell can one make a decesion about good value if you don't know the price. One on the benefits of this board is to pass on information to others who are unfamiliar with Pattaya and any newbie has access to this area as its in the open forum. If someone reads that Skytop represent good value they could act on that information and book a room for the month. Then later when talking to another individual at some bar in Pattaya find out that their deal wasn't all that good. Take the daily rate of Skytops largest room and multiply it by 30 and see what you get and I bet that I can find you not only something cheaper but better.

[jackcorbett 2]

I have just nine characters for you. 038427509 After that my rate is 500 American dollars per hour with a $1000 minimum or just wait two years for mine and Big D's upcoming book "Secrets of Pattaya revealed."

[CheshireTom 1,377]

..................... mine and Big D's upcoming book "Secrets of Pattaya revealed."

 

Are either of you even members?

 

 

Pattaya Revealed

Edited November 26, 2007 by CheshireTom

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I have just nine characters for you. 038427509 "

 

Well, Jack ............. according to Pete the owner, for a stay commencing in January, the rates for the best room are 800 Baht per night or 20,800 Baht for a one month (30 day) stay.

[joekicker 53]

800 Baht per night or 20,800 Baht for a one month (30 day) stay.

 

You forgot to state if that is a bargain?

[CheshireTom 1,377]

You forgot to state if that is a bargain?

 

You've been around a bit Joe. What do you think?

[BigDUSA 71]

I wonder how many guesthouses/hotels in Pattaya are offering monthly discounts during the height of the high season? A more reasonable question would have been what type of discounts are you offering during low season? BTW 3800 baht discount during high season is not that shabby.

 

Sky-Top has rooms from 450 to 800. Tropical Bert's has rooms for 700 and Queen Vic has rooms for 800. All good value for the money. For the guy who doesn't need or want to spend the money on a large 800 per night room, he can choose a less expensive option. When you book at Sky-Top one size room doesn't fit all.

Edited November 26, 2007 by BigDUSA

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I wonder how many guesthouses/hotels in Pattaya are offering monthly discounts during the height of the high season? A more reasonable question would have been what type of discounts are you offering during low season? BTW 3800 baht discount during high season is not that shabby.

 

Sky-Top has rooms from 450 to 800. Tropical Bert's has rooms for 700 and Queen Vic has rooms for 800. All good value for the money. For the guy who doesn't need or want to spend the money on a large 800 per night room, he can choose a less expensive option. When you book at Sky-Top one size room doesn't fit all.

 

It's not a discount it is the daily/weekly/monthly rates as quoted by the owner, as suggested by you and Jack.

 

The daily/weekly/monthly rates for the biggest rooms were 800/4,800/20,800 Baht respectively. I didn't enquire what these rates would be discounted to during the low season. Suggesting that we compare the daily rate in high season with the monthly rate in low season is a nonsense.

 

Whether the rate is shabby or not is a matter of opinion. For example, my mate Werner at the Siam House next to Nirvana Place has daily rates of 1,300 Baht and monthly rates of 18,000 Baht which is more in line with the rate differentials that you should expect regardless of the season. I'm sure that Emil can come up with many more examples.

 

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