Best bike in 125-150cc category

[CheshireTom 1,377]

When I first moved to Thailand I was eventually forced, by necessity rather than choice, to purchase the obligatory bike for getting around locally. Not being a big fan of motorbikes, I got myself a decent enough, second-hand Suzuki which has served me well for the last 4 years but it's time to change now that the rainy season has finished down here.

 

Trouble is that I'm a bit clueless when it comes to bikes and trucks so any practical, comparative advice on the pros and cons of the Suzuki Raider 150, Yamaha Spark 135 and Honda Wave 125 would be appreciated. The majority of my driving would be in town with the odd rural trip up to around 100 km maximum. I'm looking at something the the 45-55k Baht bracket.

[Fondles 94]

That budget wont get you onto a new 150cc bike but IMHO best bang for buck sub 55k is the fuel injected 125CC Suzuki Hayate at 52k (alloy wheels), good reliable performer with huge under seat storage.

[Gary 4,119]

I have had motorcycles all my life and prefer a manual clutch transmission. Being an old fart and having lost some reflexes and coordination, I finally decided it would be a good idea to give up motorcycles. I found that is easier said than done. The urge to ride just wouldn't go away. One scary thing was seeing accidents where the riders lost a foot or leg by being broadsided by cars and trucks. I had no desire to lose a foot or leg by getting it trapped between the motorcycle frame and whatever hit the bike.

 

I had never really considered the automatic transmission bikes until a friend of mine bought a new Honda PCX. I had a ride on it and was surprised at how much power that 125 cc engine had and how well it handled. My mind was made up. I went shopping. I was put off by the 75,000 baht price tag of the Honda and then looked at the Suzuki Hayate. That bike fit what I wanted and when the dealer wouldn't let me test ride it, I was a little miffed and continued looking. Then I was able to ride a 135 cc Yamaha Elegance. I found the Yamaha to have more power than the Honda and t was 19,000 baht cheaper. The Elegance lacks fuel injection and that means that Somchai at the local motorbike shops can work on it if I ever have a problem. The Yamaha under the seat storage box is about the same size as the Honda PCX and it also has a bar at the back of the seat to attach bungy cords. The rear foot pegs have places to hook the bungy cords and it has a hook for bags under the handle bars. I also insisted on tubeless tires. I HATE flat tires and tubeless tires are much better.

 

I bought the Elegance and was happy to save the money as well as getting a bike with more power. Being able to carry bigger items using bungy cords is also a big plus for me. The seat is also more comfortable than the Honda. I like having my feet in front of me rather than alongside the bike frame. The new twist and go automatics are great

 

Honda has put a bump on the seat that looks to serve no purpose and the front of the seat seems to slant down. That gets my knickers in a twist. The left brake handle uses the front brake and rear brake together. The right handle is the front brake. I DON'T want any type of front wheel braking except what I apply. The automatic start and stop is also useless to me. I really don't care about saving a teaspoon of benzine at a stoplight. I do like the bigger fuel tank on the Honda. If I remember correctly it holds about 1.3 liters more benzine. The Yamaha is more bike for less money. I'm quite happy with my Yamaha. You should be able to buy an Elegance for 56,000 baht out the door and cheaper if you can put up with spoked wheels.

[englishinsiam 15]

We bought a brand new Yamaha Nouvo Elegance 135 CC in August with Alloys it cost 55K and I think for the money it's a great buy - the Honda Click is another popular choice but it looks a lot cheaper in styling and comes in around 10K cheaper.

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

Here's my Honda Scoopy i , i bought it last year 44,000 bht , excellent twist and go , rapid and smooth ride . Still got my old wave i bought 8 years ago .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honda Scoopy i specs

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Type: Gasoline scooter Fuel: Gas / Diesel Displacement: 110cc Engine Type: 4-Stroke Max. Speed: > 80km/h Certification: TISI Condition: New Brand Name: Hondx Place of Origin: Thailand Model Number: Scoopy i (Fuel Injection) Brake(F/R): Disc Type: Automatic Transmission Displacement: 110cc Load Capacity: 200kg Gross Weight: 115kg Max. Speed: 120km/h Transmission System: Shaft Drive Engine Type: 4-Stroke

 

Fuel Consumption/100km: 35km/Ltr

 

Specifications

 

Model: Hondx Scoopy i (Fuel Injection)

Type: Gasoline Scooter (AT)

Engine: 110cc, 4-Stroke, Electric starter

14" wheel size

 

New launched of Hondx Scooter with 14" wheel size.

 

Japanese brand: Hondx

Type: Scooter (Automatic Transmission)

Engine: 110cc, 4-Stroke

Fuel injection (not carburetor)

 

Electric starter, Disc brake

 

Available both Spoke wheel and Alloy wheel

 

Available Colour: red, brown, black, white

 

Loading capacity: 32 units/20ft and 70-100 units/40ft HQ

 

Lead delivery: Prompt Shipment

[villayouth 37]

Il come pick you up on this Greg

 

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

Il come pick you up on this Greg

 

 

 

Funny enough that's one of the reasons i bought the scoopy , they look similar to lambrettas or vespas . The fino which is similar is a lot smaller.....more a girls kind of bike .....the scoopy is larger in dimension and feels solid on the steering just like a lambo.

 

I had a black lambo 200 cc when i lived in spain .......i loved it

[Gary 4,119]

The Fino and Scoopy both look like girl's scooters and both are too small for normal sized farangs. They remind my of those ugly bulgy sided Italian small wheeled scooters. Small wheels and stability DON'T belong in the same sentence. The Elegance at least has 16 inch wheels and they are still too small.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

The Fino and Scoopy both look like girl's scooters and both are too small for normal sized farangs. They remind my of those ugly bulgy sided Italian small wheeled scooters. Small wheels and stability DON'T belong in the same sentence. The Elegance at least has 16 inch wheels and they are still too small.

 

Gary,

 

Thanks for your helpful comments - and I agree, the Fino and Scoopy are designed for uni girls who've had their skirts tailored a bit too short.

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

The Fino and Scoopy both look like girl's scooters and both are too small for normal sized farangs. They remind my of those ugly bulgy sided Italian small wheeled scooters. Small wheels and stability DON'T belong in the same sentence. The Elegance at least has 16 inch wheels and they are still too small.

 

 

A matter of opinion , have you ever driven one ?

 

They are very stable , and heavier than a wave for example . I test drove about 6 other bikes ......the scoopy was the most comfortable ride for this normal sized farrang !

 

Admittedly , old men would look stupid on one

[Gary 4,119]

A matter of opinion , have you ever driven one ?

 

They are very stable , and heavier than a wave for example . I test drove about 6 other bikes ......the scoopy was the most comfortable ride for this normal sized farrang !

 

Admittedly , old men would look stupid on one

 

If the Scoopy was the most comfortable, I'd bet you didn't drive either the Honda PCX or the Yamaha Elegance. And you're right, I'd look pretty silly with my leather jacket and helmet on a Scoopy.

[Fondles 94]

Seriously have a look at the Suzuki Hayate 125 DCP-FI, they are a good thing but unfortunately are often overlooked by those whom seem happy to pay Honda and Yamaha tax..........

 

My personal bike is a Click, only reason for purchase was the missus rides it more than me and her being 40kg's the Hayate was just too big, having said that I have ridden the click to work a few times in Laem Chabang, it has no probs commuting my 120kg ass along suk road at 100km/h.

 

Edited February 22, 2011 by Fondles

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

If the Scoopy was the most comfortable, I'd bet you didn't drive either the Honda PCX or the Yamaha Elegance. And you're right, I'd look pretty silly with my leather jacket and helmet on a Scoopy.

 

Why are you being so abrasive ?

 

All i have done is uploaded photos of my bikes on the board

I tried all 6 of the latest bikes that came out last may 2010.....yes i do believe i test drove the PCX as i was doing this at a honda dealership. No i did not test drive the yamaha.......they didn't have any there, only hondas for sale !

 

I have owned a scoopy now for nearly a year , the drive from my house (Phimai) into town is about 30 kiloms ........i used to do this journey twice a week on my wave and my arse felt like godzilla had kicked it on arrival. The scoopy however just floats there, and i still have feeling left in my buttocks when i arrive.

 

I am very happy with it, and the reviews on the internet positively back up my comments about the machine.

 

Thankyou

[Fondles 94]

Sorry Cat, A scoopy is a gay ass bike for a grown man to riding.

 

When the Missus was wanting to upgrade the click (2 yr old now) I suggested a scoopy i........... she looked at me in disgust and sternly told me she is not a Katoey.

Edited February 22, 2011 by Fondles

[Gary 4,119]

Why are you being so abrasive ?

 

All i have done is uploaded photos of my bikes on the board

I tried all 6 of the latest bikes that came out last may 2010.....yes i do believe i test drove the PCX as i was doing this at a honda dealership. No i did not test drive the yamaha.......they didn't have any there, only hondas for sale !

 

I have owned a scoopy now for nearly a year , the drive from my house (Phimai) into town is about 30 kiloms ........i used to do this journey twice a week on my wave and my arse felt like godzilla had kicked it on arrival. The scoopy however just floats there, and i still have feeling left in my buttocks when i arrive.

 

I am very happy with it, and the reviews on the internet positively back up my comments about the machine.

 

Thankyou

 

That's the important thing. Being happy with your bike is what counts. As for myself, I prefer a bigger, heavier and more powerful bike. Not that a 135 cc is a powerhouse, but it is a stable comfortable ride.

[Parkwahn 61]

I have had motorcycles all my life and prefer a manual clutch transmission. Being an old fart and having lost some reflexes and coordination, I finally decided it would be a good idea to give up motorcycles. I found that is easier said than done. The urge to ride just wouldn't go away. One scary thing was seeing accidents where the riders lost a foot or leg by being broadsided by cars and trucks. I had no desire to lose a foot or leg by getting it trapped between the motorcycle frame and whatever hit the bike.

 

I had never really considered the automatic transmission bikes until a friend of mine bought a new Honda PCX. I had a ride on it and was surprised at how much power that 125 cc engine had and how well it handled. My mind was made up. I went shopping. I was put off by the 75,000 baht price tag of the Honda and then looked at the Suzuki Hayate. That bike fit what I wanted and when the dealer wouldn't let me test ride it, I was a little miffed and continued looking. Then I was able to ride a 135 cc Yamaha Elegance. I found the Yamaha to have more power than the Honda and t was 19,000 baht cheaper. The Elegance lacks fuel injection and that means that Somchai at the local motorbike shops can work on it if I ever have a problem. The Yamaha under the seat storage box is about the same size as the Honda PCX and it also has a bar at the back of the seat to attach bungy cords. The rear foot pegs have places to hook the bungy cords and it has a hook for bags under the handle bars. I also insisted on tubeless tires. I HATE flat tires and tubeless tires are much better.

 

I bought the Elegance and was happy to save the money as well as getting a bike with more power. Being able to carry bigger items using bungy cords is also a big plus for me. The seat is also more comfortable than the Honda. I like having my feet in front of me rather than alongside the bike frame. The new twist and go automatics are great

 

Honda has put a bump on the seat that looks to serve no purpose and the front of the seat seems to slant down. That gets my knickers in a twist. The left brake handle uses the front brake and rear brake together. The right handle is the front brake. I DON'T want any type of front wheel braking except what I apply. The automatic start and stop is also useless to me. I really don't care about saving a teaspoon of benzine at a stoplight. I do like the bigger fuel tank on the Honda. If I remember correctly it holds about 1.3 liters more benzine. The Yamaha is more bike for less money. I'm quite happy with my Yamaha. You should be able to buy an Elegance for 56,000 baht out the door and cheaper if you can put up with spoked wheels.

 

 

Not sure who told you the PCX rear brake on the left is linked to the front as its not I tested the Yamaha and the PCX for me the PCX was streets ahead in feel and balance, but each to their own.

[Parkwahn 61]

Funny enough that's one of the reasons i bought the scoopy , they look similar to lambrettas or vespas . The fino which is similar is a lot smaller.....more a girls kind of bike .....the scoopy is larger in dimension and feels solid on the steering just like a lambo.

 

I had a black lambo 200 cc when i lived in spain .......i loved it

 

 

A fella near me has done a terrific mod job on the Scoop, union jack seat 20 mirrors, looks very nice indeed.. fully chromed the lot

[Parkwahn 61]

Seriously have a look at the Suzuki Hayate 125 DCP-FI, they are a good thing but unfortunately are often overlooked by those whom seem happy to pay Honda and Yamaha tax..........

 

My personal bike is a Click, only reason for purchase was the missus rides it more than me and her being 40kg's the Hayate was just too big, having said that I have ridden the click to work a few times in Laem Chabang, it has no probs commuting my 120kg ass along suk road at 100km/h.

 

 

 

Fondles 120kg ? you have lumped on a bit mate

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

Sorry Cat, A scoopy is a gay ass bike for a grown man to riding.

 

 

I could have laid money on you saying that

 

Come on , all the little twist and go bikes are gay ,i would never ride the scoopy in the uk , i would get beaten up for the sheer audacity

 

Cheshire tom states that they all look the same in the OP title which is probably not far from the truth .

 

 

I rest my case

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

That's the important thing. Being happy with your bike is what counts. As for myself, I prefer a bigger, heavier and more powerful bike. Not that a 135 cc is a powerhouse, but it is a stable comfortable ride.

 

Exactly , all i give is my own personal experience of the vehicle ......i liked it so much i bought it . A year down the line it still drives like new + the honda package was second to none .

[Parkwahn 61]

Hondas retain and incredible second hand value, I was nosing about a bike shop the other week and a second hand Phantom 7 years old 24k on clock was only 30k less than a new one !!!

 

Hondas are rated more by the Thais

[Fondles 94]

Not sure who told you the PCX rear brake on the left is linked to the front as its not .

 

You sure about that........

 

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/hon...view-89731.html

Keeping safety a top priority for those newly addicted to riding “in the wind,” the new PCX will carry the same Combined Braking System (CBS) found on both the Elite and the SH. Linking front to rear, applying a little front-disc braking before rear-drum application for better control in potential adverse conditions and emergency situations.

 

http://theage.drive.com.au/bike-reviews/ho...0824-13pxr.html

The brakes are however combined thus both brakes are applied when the rear brake lever is pulled firmly.

 

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/127/7401/Mot...First-Ride.aspx

The rear drum is linked to the front three-piston caliper with a delay-spring mechanism that prevents the front brake from being activated before the rear, maximizing braking by evenly distributing stopping force between the front and rear wheels.

 

 

Pretty much all Honda scoots have Combi brakes.

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

A fella near me has done a terrific mod job on the Scoop, union jack seat 20 mirrors, looks very nice indeed.. fully chromed the lot

 

 

Yep , honda have loads of extras you can buy off the shelf in the showrooms .......i changed the exhaust cover to a chrome one , the feet mat you can see is chequred , also now i have bought a chrome cover rim on the front lights , and a chrome gauze grid thing that goes over the back lights........loads of other extras you can buy for no more than 300 bht each .

 

I love it ......pussy turn their heads aswell

 

 

 

Edit .....one other important factor is the engine is so quiet . When its ticking over at the lights its so quiet you think it has stalled .

Edited February 22, 2011 by HAMLEKLEK

[HAMLEKLEK 4]

Hondas retain and incredible second hand value, I was nosing about a bike shop the other week and a second hand Phantom 7 years old 24k on clock was only 30k less than a new one !!!

 

Hondas are rated more by the Thais

 

 

100 % correct ......just look at Honda Wave sales over the last 10 years ....thais love em .

[Gary 4,119]

Not sure who told you the PCX rear brake on the left is linked to the front as its not I tested the Yamaha and the PCX for me the PCX was streets ahead in feel and balance, but each to their own.

 

 

The front and rear brakes DO come on together. That may be OK for good clean paved roads but NOT OK for sand and gravel covered concrete roads here in Thailand. There is no doubt that the PCX would be a very comfortable ride IF you replace the stock seat with a custom seat without the silly bump and one that slopes to the rear rather than to the front. Neither bikes are performance race bikes but both are great short range transportation. The Elegance is a bit faster and more bike for the money, at least the money that comes out of my pocket. An extra 19,000 baht is a lot to pay at least in part for two items that I certainly don't want.