British passports

[nidnoyham 30]

Amazing, just when my prediction about British Passport holders needing a visa for U.S.A comes into effect, the origional post has been removed from the board.

 

Not even the chance to say I told you so.

 

P.S. Those Britt's you hold in that bay place (Guantalema ?) just keep them.  

[Duffabboy 0]

If those mongs held in captivity went to Iraq of there own accord then they are clearly not British but don't mind grovelling to ascertain a British passport.

 

Sorry guys but anyone going out there killing American & British soldiers deserves everything they get in return.

It just pisses me off as to how easy the British government seem to let them reside in the UK.

 

ENuff said,  and I am not blaming any race in particular but if you believe in a certain terrorist's group's actions then piss off over and join them. The less anti British sympathisers in Britain, the better.   >

 

Now cup of tea time I think

[CheshireTom 1,377]

If those mongs held in captivity went to Iraq of there own accord then they are clearly not British but don't mind grovelling to ascertain a British passport.

 

duffab,

 

Iraq?  What has Camp X-Ray got to do with Iraq?

 

Best have that cup of tea, mate!

 

Tom

[Crackpot 2]

duffab,

 

Iraq?  What has Camp X-Ray got to do with Iraq?

Best have that cup of tea, mate!

Tom

 

Got to agree with you :-/

[Duffabboy 0]

Well said Crackpot.   ???

 

My comment did go slightly astray  :-[  

Sure there is a link with Iraq and camp xray somewhere. Oh yeh, the war .

 

Thanks Tom and crackpot for enlightening me.

 

Duffab

[nidnoyham 30]

S'pose we will never know how much safer the West has been with those suspects held at Camp X-Ray behind bars. I am sure their names wen't just pulled out of a hat.

As soon as our lot come here,  I predict the protests will begin on Oldham etc to get them released. And with so many potential votes on the line, T. Blair & Co will most likely dooo-oooo it. Fortune telling never was my strong point though. ( Watch this space.)  

[Crackpot 2]

No I dont think Blair is that stupid. They must be tried to establish their innocence/guilt. But I fail to see what the charges would be ?. It was a war and unless they had committed war crimes I dont think there would be any charges in a UK court that would be relevant, and I suspect that the US is starting to wake up to that problem now

 

I see no problems with someone from say the UK or US going to fight in another country in an army or constituted force set up to defend a country against Brits or Yanks or whoever if they feel strongly about something. Didnt people do that in Civil wars in the UK, US and other places around the world ?

 

My conscience is mine and I live my life by that, not the dictats of some Office Wallah or politician. However, saying that, I could not see myself personally fighting for any county other than the United Kingdom (the whole of it and not just England

[nidnoyham 30]

Me too, Crackpot, I'd man a trench anywhere around this Island.

 

Thing is, these blokes held at X-Ray, haven't as far as I am aware, commited any crime, other than being suspected of membership of old Osma Bins outfit. Seeing as the U.S was assisting them against the Russians in Afghanistan not too long ago, I assume they kept their  names and addresses, then after Sep 11  decided to round the same freedom fighters up.

 

I still think, that some day in the future, a line has to be drawn in the sand and these new Brits will have to declare their loyalties. What happens when we have a moslem running for Prime-minister or Minister of Defence ?

 

Until then, my home is my country to fight and die for, for them it's just somewhere to live.

[Guest chrisgng22]

Treason!!! still punishable with death, they want to live here and sponge till the time is right for them to go fight for who the fuck against the U.K and the U.Sof A

TREASON is the only word and fuck em! they went for it now they should get it............My mind is DEATH they deserve it...

[Crackpot 2]

Treason!!! still punishable with death, they want to live here and sponge till the time is right for them to go fight for who the fuck against the U.K and the U.Sof A

TREASON is the only word and fuck em! they went for it now they should get it............My mind is DEATH they deserve it...

 

"Sponge till the time is right" ?? Where did that come from.

 

Whilst I understand your sympathies, I also understand the sympathies for those who wish to stop unprovoked aggression and violence imposed by bully boy countries such as the UK and US.

Sure the Taliban werent the nicest people in the world. But neither the UK nor the US has the right to interfere with the internal politics of a sovereign state such as Afghanistan or in another case Iraq.

Neither the US nor the UK are the policiemen of the world.

On another tack, surely going to live in Thailand could, to Stretch a fine point, be classed as Treason?

 

BTW We abolished, quite rightly, the Death penalty in the UK.

[Duffabboy 0]

Sorry Crackpot but have to agree with Winston.

 

I think hardened habitual criminals dont give a shit about breaking the law in this country because of the abolished death penalty.

I understand that America has a high crime rate even with the death penalty, but I think without it we are quickly moving towards a society like the usa ( no offence ).

 

I say forget Data Protection rules, what the fuck is wrong with being issued an identity card if you are a law abiding citizen.

 

WHAT ABOUT OUR PRIVACY , fuck the privacy , the Government should go ahead with it instead of listening to the goody to shoes tossers.

privacy does and should not come into it if you have done nothing wrong.

Sorry, just my pennies worth, anyone else got thoughts on the death penalty.

[Crackpot 2]

Sorry Crackpot but have to agree with Winston.

 

I think hardened habitual criminals dont give a shit about breaking the law in this country because of the abolished death penalty.

I understand that America has a high crime rate even with the death penalty, but I think without it we are quickly moving towards a society like the usa ( no offence ).

 

I say forget Data Protection rules, what the fuck is wrong with being issued an identity card if you are a law abiding citizen.

 

WHAT ABOUT OUR PRIVACY , fuck the privacy , the Government should go ahead with it instead of listening to the goody to shoes tossers.

privacy does and should not come into it if you have done nothing wrong.

Sorry, just my pennies worth, anyone else got thoughts on the death penalty.

 

How do you say 'Sorry' to someone you hanged by mistake ?

The Death penalty never worked and the US shows that it continues to be a total failure..

 

You dont call a man an animal then proceed to do the same to him as he did to someone else.

[nidnoyham 30]

Winston/Duffab.

 

Even if we had the death penalty for treason, it would be almost immposible to charge a British moslem.  Treason means treachery to your country or it's leader, as most British moslems don't consider this country as theirs ( nor do I ) They can't be charged.

 

However, the death penalty for terrorism, would get my consideration.  It is going to be the biggest blight on mankind, there will be no truce, or armestice, no end like conventional warfare. If you get killed in your everyday life by an "enemy", it's not going to be a soldier in uniform, or a pilot of a bomber, it will be the man/woman standing next to you in the station/airport/bus with that sports bag full of semtex, or slight bulge around the waist.

 

And with the whole world on the move, we are more vunerable than 50 years ago, even football matches segregate the two sets of fans, immagine having them mixed up, there would be a punch up after every goal.

It was the celebrations in Oldham by the moslem youngsters on 9/11, that got the B.N.P voted in a few months later in the area. Every action has a reaction. Will we truly ever live together in harmony and peace ?

 

Well thats my thought on it.  

[Crackpot 2]

9/11 ???

Dont you mean 11-9

[nidnoyham 30]

Your right Crackpot, I just keep hearing Americans refer to it as 9/11 'cos they do month first then day.  

[Duffabboy 0]

Nidnoyham

 

Good points you make.

I still think a large portion of British muslims pipe up and say they are British when it suits them !!! The point you make regarding the incident in oldham just shows how much of a tinderbox a lot of  neighbourhood's have on there doorstep.

 

I dread to think how much is really true regarding these so called sleeper cells all over the place. Must admit though, I thought the UK would have been hit with something by now.

 

Do you think it will still happen ?  

 

Would I be a traitor if I wanted to live in another country, I don't think I would, I do think the UK is slowly drowning and me personally would hope that in a few years I can live elsewhere - using my own money that is !!!!

[Crackpot 2]

Please dont think Im an apologist for Muslims or other people who live in this country and cant be bothered to learn the language or form little ghettoes and wander around as if it was Pakistan or India or whatever, cos Im not.

I was one of those musicians who complained bitterly at the 'Black Music Awards', arguing that if someone had suggested a 'White Music Awards' they would have been called racist. We still refuse to have anything to do with it or the MOBO awards.

 

However I find it alarming that a country like the US can go anywhere they like and arrest people when they themselves refuse to let their own soldiers be subject to the International Court of Human rights.

One law for the man with the biggest gun and another for the rest ????

[Duffabboy 0]

Oh god, Black Music Awards,  MOBO,  Voice newspaper.

 

I no what you mean Crackpot , as a whitey, try and  get an interview on any of the jobs in Voice and see what I mean.

 

I am not racist but it does seem that the UK has not  just brought itself in line with equal rights for all creeds but possibly gone way past it.

 

for instance,  non whites may obtain a lower pass grade to join the Police force, anyone remember that one in the news, I mean come on, I know the Police should have more ethnic Officers but no wonder things like this gets up people's noses.

 

Don't get me wrong guys, I have many black friends.  

My wife  AMVA on this site is from Mauritius but even she thinks some things have gone to far.

 

Your thoughts guys.

[nidnoyham 30]

Crackpot, I can tell your a middle of the road man, but you hit the nail with the MOBO caper. You can have a song "Young gifted and black" but not "white". A film " White men can't jump" but not " Black men can't swim"

 

Why do you think 750,000 people turned up at  the England Rugby Team London bash ? They were just enjoying a very rare oppotunity to celebrate and share with others, being English and  showing the world we realy do exist, 'cos the government seems to have overlooked the fact. Blimey in reality, the reception at number 10 should have excluded the Prime Minister, Chancelor of the Exchequer and leader of Lib Dems, they are all Scot's' dont suppose Robin Cook was invited anyway.  

 

And because the U.S can go where it likes, we too I suppose, terrorism is the only course for the opposition, they know a straight conflict will mean defeat, they just take off their uniforms, wait till the dust settles, and strike soft targets to demoralise the system and it's

supporters.

 

I have no idea if a strike will happen in the U.K. But it is just the thought that it might, that depreciates your quality of life.

 

Hey, why do you think I go to Pattaya ?

 

We'll survive !  

[dirtydawg 11]

I agree with lordcrackpot.England does seem like a shit hole,but it is our shithole.Why should anyone else suffer? You tell em to go home your royal lordship!!Britian for the english!!!!!!

[dirtydawg 11]

I was one of those musicians who complained bitterly at the 'Black Music Awards', arguing that if someone had suggested a 'White Music Awards' they would have been called racist. We still refuse to have anything to do with it or the MOBO awards.

 

 I agree with you your lordcrackpot,these blacks should have no separate rights.They are treated the same as us,the natives of this isle.I think that awards should be only handed to people who have been in this country two thousand years or longer regardless of colour unlike these forigners.of course that would mean no scotch welsh or micks as they are not here long enough.I am not beeing rasict as they are all british.

[sinbinjack 251]

if you live in great britain and have a british passport then you would be charged with treason the passport and all rights and privileges come to those who apply for them they are not thrust apon people, people from all over the world are prepared to break the law to come to this country for many valid reasons and those who wish to hurt this country should realise we will defend ourselves with every law in the book.

For those who dont call this their country there are many means of travel outward no matter their creed or colour

ps

as a scot i am annoyed by some english people who mock us sure we dont like to be told that england have won another trophy and we have yet to win any bloody thing  and we will fight about it between ourselves but in the future as in the past we will be united against all comers who wish to attack OUR country of great britain

jack    

[dirtydawg 11]

I agree with you sinbinjack,you scotch are just like us british,we take no shite!!!!Britain for the british and the scotch and the welsh!!!!!!

[Crackpot 2]

I was one of those musicians who complained bitterly at the 'Black Music Awards', arguing that if someone had suggested a 'White Music Awards' they would have been called racist. We still refuse to have anything to do with it or the MOBO awards.

 

 I agree with you your lordcrackpot,these blacks should have no separate rights.They are treated the same as us,the natives of this isle.I think that awards should be only handed to people who have been in this country two thousand years or longer regardless of colour unlike these forigners.of course that would mean no scotch welsh or micks as they are not here long enough.I am not beeing rasict as they are all british.

 

Did you hear a WHOOOOOOOSH just above your empty skull when you were reading my post ?

[dirtydawg 11]

yeah maty,theres a lot of TWATS in here but weele set them straght.

 

DO NOT DESPAIR,   DIRTY DAWG IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

You still giggin btw?