VicVegas

Sorry, I haven't checked the thread in a while. Looks like I didn't miss much. Greg picked the winning team in the Super Bowl, and Joe made a bunch of posts putting him down for being right. Hmmmm, sounds familiar. What's funny is JK absolutely guaranteeing that Denver will not draft a QB. Greg is 100% right about Brady Quinn being on the way out. So who's gonna be Tebow's back-up? Yet Joe absolutely promises Donkey-Boy (Elway) wouldn't dare draft a QB. I hope JK gets a job in the Bronco front office soon. That would pretty much seal their fate for next season.

Tebow-mania sweeps into Indy. http://sports.yahoo....per-bowl-020212 Thank godness our Tebow expert, Buzz, made this statement earlier in this thread, so we know this article must be a fabrication: "Tebow is a tiny blip on the screen compared to Green Bay's popularity. Like I said, you've got Tebow so far up your ass you can't see straight. Step away from your emotions and look at it logically and then try to convince yourself he's incredibly popular throughout the country. Fact is Vic he's not the water-cooler item you've built him up in your mind to be." A few choice quotes f

This thread isn't a sports book. I didn't insert any money into my DVD drive. Nobody gave me a ticket. When I posted "Pats/Packers" MM didn't break in and say I had to get both teams right to win my bet. We're just guys talking about football, but you are so warped in your determination to make me look bad that you twist and bend every statement I make to fit your imaginary arguments, from your original objection to my use of the phrase "lost their way into the play-offs" to this. As for admitting my faults, I can and do. I admitted I was wrong about the Broncos/Steelers game and

The question was, "Who is going to play in the Super Bowl?". I said the Pats and the Packers. I got one of the teams right. It says a lot about your personality that you refuse to give me credit for that.

I lean towards cutting the Williams kid more slack than Cundiff. He was filling in as returner for Ted Guinn, who was injured, and he didn't have much experience in such high pressure situations. Of course that doesn't change the fact that he cost the 49ers the game. Cundiff, on the other hand, is a veteran and former pro-bowler. Like he said after the game, he has made that exact same field goal a 1000 times, but in the AFC Championship game with the seconds ticking down and an easy field goal standing between his team and OT, he simply choked. It wasn't quite a Scott Norwood or Jacki

Now that I have seen all the highlights I gotta say Billy Cundiff choked the game away for the Ravens. That was a chipshot field goal and he should have made it and sent that game to OT. Eli Manning was a man, taking much abuse from the 49er defense and getting up every time. He is a money player in big games. Giants are on a roll, but so are the Pats. Tough call . . .

My last post refers to our picks for the AFC and NFC championship games. V V = 2-0 BB = 0-2 If you want to talk about the picks we made before the play-offs began, then I was 1-1 (Pats/Packers) and you were 0-2 (49ers/Ravens). V V = 3-1 BB = 0-4 Add in my losses on Saints/49ers and Giants/Packers, and give you one for 49ers over Saints V V = 3-3 BB = 1-4 And lets not forget my Denver picks. I was 1-1, so it's a wash Did you even make a pick in those games? V V = 4-4 BB = 1-4 So I end up .500 and you end up .250 Looks like my average IS

Further proof that Joe and Buzz . . . well, I guess there's no point in restating the obvious.

Obviously Joe, there is career success. Rodgers and Rothlesberger have been more successful at helping their team win NFL championships. They have rings and MVP awards. Their stats are ridiculously better than Tebow's. No comparison. Not even in the same ballpark. They are better quarterbacks than Tebow, much better, not even open for debate. Most of the quarterbacks in the league are better than Tebow . . . hell, most of the back-ups are better than Tebow. Yet there stands Joe, all alone, with his little homemade "Tebow was more successful" sign. Tebow was more successf

Like I said, you seem to be more interested in bashing me than discussing the issue. Why all the hate and anger? Just because I point out the fact that the Broncos lost their last 3 games before entering the play-offs? Does it really bother you that I constantly mention Denver's losing streak and how they backed into the play-offs? Maybe it's the fact that I call them the Donkeys that upsets you? Does the notion that all this press and attention they've received is unwarranted, undeserved, and unearned, does that make you so angry that you have to hurl insults at me? I think you have

Since "going after Luck" means pursuing him in the draft, which hasn't happened yet, you are wrong. It could still happen, though I personally think it's doubtful. Even if the Broncos were interested in getting Luck (and I think pretty much every team would like to have him), their chances are pretty slim. That's just my opinion, of course. I'm not going to say they don't have the guts to do it, as you claim. I wouldn't say it couldn't happen in any manner or for any reason no matter what, as you state. All I said, after watching Tebow's pitiful performance of his duties as quarterbac

Denver "won" whatever tie-breaker it took to win the division. I think it was common opponents because they split with Oakland in head-to-head games and they both had the same inter-division record (3-3). I honestly can't be bothered to go look it up. I hate the Donkeys and they lost their last 3 games, so I will continue to say they lost their way into the play-offs. You don't like that? Oh well. Life is full of disappointments.

What I actually said was he was trying to figure out a way to get Andrew Luck (pure speculation on my part) because it was obvious to most football people that Tebow isn't a starting QB in the NFL. Then Tebow pulled out a dramatic win vs the best defense in the AFC, so now Elway is stuck with him until training camp, er, uh, I mean so lucky to have a winner like him on the roster. Hey maybe he'll learn to pass more consistently during the off season. I didn't answer because my initial comment about fixing the game was a harmless, not too serious comment. I didn't want to get int

Mostly internet highlights. NFL.com keeps updating them during games. You know me - poorly paid teacher that I am - I'm too cheap to invest much money. I listen to a lot of talk radio via the internet and read several sports sites to keep up on things.

You're more interested in telling me I'm wrong than discussing the topic. You were correct to mention SS, but you should have included Obsession as well - you have adopted their tactic of avoiding the issue and simply opting to bash me. Let's put it this way: The Broncos did basically the same thing the Seahawks did last season. They won a weak division and managed to win a play-off game against a superior opponent because they were playing at home. How did those Matt Hasselback jerseys sell? Was Hasselback the most popular player in the US at this time last year? Were GOP candidate

There are people in the US who don't watch the Super Bowl. It is played on Sunday, and many of those non-watchers are church-goers. If a couple hundred of them set up a TV at church to watch Reverend Tebow play, that would increase viewership and subsequently make the already big Super Bowl that much bigger. I think you are under-estimating the power of Christianity in America. Fixing sporting events has been done before and could be done again. You answered your own question - bribe the defense. Going into any more detail would take this thread even further off topic and simply

You seriously think a Green Bay repeat would be more popular than Tebow and the Broncos vs anybody in the Super Bowl? I can't stand the guy, but even I recognize his incredible popularity. The Pittsburgh/Denver play-off game was the highest rated wild card game since 1988. That's over 20 years. "The game drew a 25.9 rating and 43 share in the 56 largest U.S. media markets, according to CBS and Nielsen Research. The end of the game drew a 31.6 rating and 46 share nationally for CBS." Tebow is the main reason most of those people tuned in. The numbers for yesterday's game should be eve

Mini-thread? All I was saying was it would be in the best interests of the NFL to have Tebow in the Super Bowl, and if they were ever thinking about fixing a game (or in this case two) to get a certain team into the big game I can see how this might be a good time for them to do it. Obviously they didn't. I definitely think a Super Bowl with Tebow in it would draw much more attention than your typical SB. You can bet (pun intended) that the already astronomical prices for commercials would be raised. Would it be worth it for the NFL? I'll answer that with another question - can big

Hope you had a napkin to wipe up that drool. You were right, of course. The Pats weren't 2 touchdowns better than the Donkeys. They were 5 touchdowns better. Tebow's numbers: 9 completions on 26 attempts, 0 touchdowns, 5 sacks. I guess God didn't hear his prayers. I think the guys on ESPN said this was the 5th worst performance by a quarterback in the history of the play-offs. But yeah, that Tebow is a winner.

42-7 in the 3rd quarter. I hope Reverend Timmy remembers to thank his Lord and Savior for this ass-kickin'.

I never claimed that they HADN'T won the division. I understand why they won the division, even though they had the same record as the Raiders. When I say "they lost their way into the play-offs" it has to do with how they finished the season. Here are the records of all the play-off teams in the final 3 weeks of the season: New England 3-0 New Orleans 3-0 San Francisco 3-0 Pittsburgh 2-1 Baltimore 2-1 Cincinnati 2-1 Green Bay 2-1 Detroit 2-1 Atlanta 2-1 New York 2-1 Houston 0-3 Denver 0-3 Houston lost their last 3 games, but they had alread

You know, I soft peddled this earlier by saying it was "reckless", but in fact calling Andrew Luck a "loser" is simply absurd, even ignorant. Andrew Luck holds almost every passing record at Stanford. He was a runner up for the Heisman 2 years-in-a-row (the Heisman Trophy is not a competition, it is an "award", so it's ridiculous to refer to the runner's up as "losers" ) and led his team to 2 straight BCS Bowl games. They won the first one and, yes, they lost the most recent vs Oklahoma St. In that loss Luck was 27/31 for 347 yards and 2 TDs. He is not a loser. And BTW, I have never

Like I posted earlier, I give the guy credit after the win over Pittsburgh. I'm not hiding. I posted on this thread immediately after the game. I can take the heat. Tebow played well against a very good defense and won. He's still a Donkey and I hate the Donkeys, and that's never gonna change. I also hated buck-toothed Elway, though I also admit he's one of the best QBs to ever play the game. I'm not gonna lie and start gushing all over the guy like you and the other Tebow apostles, but I admit he played much better than I expected. I'd still take Dalton or Luck over Tebow. It's

No I define this as whining: But hey, they beat the Steelers, so maybe ending the season on a 3-game losing streak IS the way to go into the play-offs. I'm just praying that all-mighty Zeus blesses me with a whole week of Tebow Talk, with folks bending and scraping on their knees to the Lord our God His Tebowness. As an atheist I don't know much about all this Christian-praying-before-during-and-after-sporting-events stuff, (or, as Joe so correctly points out, all the Muslim athletes who give thanks to Allah for their victories, which of course gets suppressed by the Liberal Me

Almost as sad as you whining about me saying the Broncos lost their way into the play-offs But, the good lord willing, you and I will be blessed by our savior and be able to keep whining about stuff in the future. Amen.