sommy

Well , here in toronto canada on July 16 and 17 there will be the taste of thailand festival. I went last year and its basically : food from various restaurants in toronto(not free but reasonably priced) free thai cooking demonstrations onsite thai massage for $1 per hour all kinds of displays put on by various people of the thai community in toronto,Thai supermarkets, Thai boxing training and various other things live enterntainment , music , singing and also loogthung dancing , and thai fashion show The festival is free to enter and is quite fun and helps relieve the pattaya blues while your away. Also many local thai people there . Ive seen the odd teeruk there but not a whole stampede like in pattaya. Mostly normal respectable thai people there.But it is very enjoyable. Very fun. anybody else on the board from canada or anywhere else staying near toronto interested in meeting up down there send me a message. Ill be going both days. Its a nice way to enjoy the weekend when your away from thailand i know there are a number of canadians on the board and it would be nice to meet up as we have our common interests

oh you new yorkers and LA people are so lucky to have access to this direct flight to bkk with thai air and the promotional pricing is reasonable for what your getting. I emailed Thai airways and asked them if they ever planned on launching a Toronto to BKK and they said they have plans of this in the future. The new york to bkk is so nice and leaves and arrives at such convienient times and 17 hours with that level os service from thai airways must be really nice. Please Thai airways set up a flight from toronto! I guess there is not enough demand for it

i suspect there is no hope but i wish thai airways would add a toronto to bkk flight but i dont think there are enough people flying out of canada to bangkok to warrant it but even if they did a once a week deal i would be really happy.

my condolences to her family and everyone that knew her . sometimes life is not fair ,so sad

good for you blossom glad your having a great time in pattaya.

hahhahaha i betcha this is your usual farang woman being her usual self teasing a hungry elephant , welll she got hers ahahahahaha i guess this might be one of those bloated farang woman prancing around pattaya , if so she got what she desrved . ok i dont mean to be cruel but heck by reading this article i wonder if it was the kind of farang woman that are annoying us in pattaya well good for the elephant for teaching her a lesson :)))))) Woman receives minor injuries after teasing hungry elephant Mahout fined 500 baht A three-year-old male elephant knocked a female tourist to the ground on March 7 in the beer bar area on Sois 7 and 8. The woman was taken to the hospital for treatment of minor bruises, and later released. Apparently realizing the folly of her ways, she declined to press charges, saying it was her fault for teasing the hungry elephant. Butsaba, whose only real crime was being hungry, received a brutal beating resulting in 16 wounds to the head. His mahout Niwat was fined 500 baht for causing a public disturbance. However, police fined the elephant’s mahout, Surin native Niwat Salangam, 27, for causing a public disturbance. Niwat told police that he had brought the elephant, named Butsaba, to the Pattaya Elephant Show, but they were laid off and had no monthly income for food. So Niwat brought the elephant around the tourist areas to sell elephant food, earning him a small income and keeping Butsaba fed. He said that on the night in question, Butsaba was very hungry, and one tourist woman was playing tricks on him while giving him food. The elephant became annoyed and knocked her down with its trunk, causing her minor injuries. Niwat’s friend brought her to the hospital, and by the time police arrived she had already been released and returned home. Police brought Niwat and Butsaba in for questioning, and could see that Butsaba had 16 bleeding wounds to his face and head. Niwat told police that he had to beat the elephant with a wooden and iron pick until it bled in order to control the elephant, otherwise it would not have stopped its angry tantrum. The police warned Niwat that he could be charged with animal mistreatment. Police charged Niwat with causing a public disturbance, fined him 500 baht and gave him a warning before letting him go free. ok im just kidding that poor farang woman

where do canadians hang out if any?

i can add to this it has happened here in canada and this is how a bank card is cloned with a pin also as this is how it happened in canada: th e black market has invented a machine that can be hooked up to store cash registers with atm devices, you know how now you can go to a store or gas station and pay for your purchase with an atm card well some criminals have gone to in this case to a gas station they bribe the attendant to let them install this device that goes between the atm device and cash register ,like an interface and it records the bank # and pins when people make transctions nand eneter them into teh atm device and then the the criminal comes by and picks up the machine and pays off the employee and now the criminal has all these bank# and pins. So now i guess in the above post he advises thathe only used his bank card at an atm in thailand. my guess is that the only possibilties is someone working in the bank has allowed for a device to be hooked up to the bank machine to record the bank #'s and pins though this has never happened in canada as people working in the bank have been trustworthy and im sure there are many security measures in place. BUt in thailand who knows if you can trust a bank manager at the bank or someone who works for the bank and has access to the bank machine. Could be the guy who loads it up with the money who knows . unless someone has installled a very good camera at the machine that can capture the bank card and pin being enetered who knows anything is possible with the level of corruption in thailand. on my trips i load myself up with travellers cheques and when i get down to my last $200 i start to withdraw from teh bank machine. guess thats the best i can do

wow when i started readin this thread i started laughing my head off until BEGS came in and gave his/her 2 cents. Begs: im not trying flame anybody as i dont like doing that kind of thing but some of the things you said are crude. You sound like you might be a farang woman. because i analysed your posts and language you use words like "exploit" and then you took the oppurtunity to state that everybody here is fat old bald and ugly. how do you know, im here and im 30, full head of hair(short style), no big gut, in shape, young and decent looking, i came to to thailand as next choice in my vacations and now im on my 3rd trip trip there, i realized exactly what the board members point out and that is (and im from Canada) white farang woman could never compete with any asian woman and that includes china ,japan,thailand,malaysia and india, and india and china and malaysia are not poor countries so how do you explain the amazing attitudes on those woman, i think its a possibility that you may be a farang woman who felt insulted with these posts and made a personal attack against these posters. these posters are totally correcty 99% of farang woman have attitudes that need fixing, many are selfish, wanna act like man, dont know the meaning of being feminine, and many are overweight as the countires they are from have not very healthy balanced diets and are surrounded by fast food and many have gotten so deeply into their carreers they dont even know how to cook a healthy meal for themselves. I know how to cook. as my mother taught me when i was a kid asi i grew up as she took the time away from work to raise me while my father worked (she stayed off work for 23 year to raise my borther and me she went back to work when i was 15 because she had to because my father had a heart attack and had togo off work because he worked to hard and was to stressed. She is from eastern europe and even though she might be considered a farang lady she was of the generation where farang woman will still feminine. she tells me today at her old age that the woman in this country (Canada) disgust her as they are more concerned about their careers more than their families and she is disgusted too see how many have affairs in the workplaces as when she went back to work she told me how her farang woman supervisor was sleeping with the owner of the business which enabled her too get the supervisory position, and he was ugly. And another thing she was married and her husband has no idea. funny thing is i dated a farang woman not really dated but i met her at restauarant with her friends shr slept with me on the 3rd date and then decided to tell me she was married afterwards , and her own friends hid this from me. she told me that she wasnt satisfied in her marriage, you want to hear the ugly truth, she told me she lived in a beautiful 2300 sqaure foot home, her husband bought her a nice car , he made lots of money treated her like gold and never cheated on her, and her reason for cheating, "im bored" "the sex is no good no more" (poor husband) anyway im getting off topic ive scene much to many sad cases with farang woman who are spoiled too much . I mean another girl i dated who was not a cheater but she was so demanding and if she never got her way she whine like baby. i use to continue to pursue farang woman as i thought this is woman whati can do , until i accidentally stumbled on thailand and realized there are woman with better personalities in the eastern part of the world ,and quite frankly not that it matters better healthier looking bodies. im not stating they are perfect but being honest if i had to choose id pick an asian woman over a frang woman by a long stretch, sorry but you white whales just can t even come close , you've just lost the concept and cant figure out how to have a good relationship with a man and make him happy. and another thing ive been to thailand and have gone with p4p woman and also some non p4p woman and im not ashamed to admit it. the sad part is that some of the poorest p4p woman have way better personalities than you white whales. And some of the older men have married these woman knowing perhaps theyare looking for financial security but accepted them anyway because they are far better woman than you white whales. Have you been to Issaan? Many farang men married to thai woman, happily. i met one in pattaya this guy was happily married to his thai woman for over 13 years. it was so nice to see him and her (they were on a holiday in pattaya)with their 1 child and her parents and her sister and brother , this girl was so happy and appreciative of him , icould see it in her eyes , and he said to me you know she married me for financial security but you know what , i dont care shes happy , im happy ,her family is happy (by the way its amazing how these woman include their family on everything and show such high family values something that is disappearing in america with many farang woman) Ill tell you if most men living in america had any idea what some eastern woman are like , they would never settle or marry any farang woman, tehy only do in america because they have no idea such things exist and only believe everything they read in the media. at one time in my life i only desired heavily the white woman here ina america beacuse i had no idea what else was out there . and i understand there are many slefish thai woman etc etc. hey they are human too, but the difference is there general attitude and there way of life. you say that these girls have posters of young good looking people in there rooms, you are imposing your western way of thinking on them , i was in thai girls room before, she had no posters on the wall ,(shes not gonna waste her money on that) all she had was a bhuddist mini shrine in the corner near the roof (like one of these shelves with the bhudda and these candles) she said to me everyday before i go to work i ask bhudda to bring me good luck. (now you dont see farang woman doing that instead they sleep with their bosses to get a promotion and if they dont get a promotion they accuse them of sexual harassment) If some of them make jokes about the farangs they go with , hey they do have an a very good sense of humor , this is there way , in your western way you would see it as an insult but in their way they do it to gain face with their friends . i fail to see how you spent 17 years in pattaya and are not even aware of many realities based on your very crude comments about exploitation. Many farang men are just fed up with farang woman, also many men have been seriously hurt and have been taken to the cleaners by farang woman, this is the subconsious reason why so many get disgusted when they see these fat whale farang woman dragging their asses around pattaya giving strange looks when they see a farang guy and thai woman having the time of there life strolling around pattaya. its not about not being able to get laid in there own country . this once again is your western way of thinking and you have to make yourself feel better by amking crude comments about exploitation etc etc. many woman are not being expolited . In fact if you coul understand a different culture you would know that many asian woman are less concerned about age and looks and are more concerned about financial security and being treated with repect and appreciating that treatment(one thing many farang woman dont know how to appreciate when they are being treated good, you have to treat them like shit to get any respect from them) quite frankly im sick of that in farangland of having to put on a show and purposely treat a woman bad so i can get some respect from her and then having a farang woman telling me that she belives she has to treat a a man bad on purpose so she can get respect from him thngs have really gotton screwed up here in america and asia was the 1st place in which i treated a girl good and she showed me the same respect back (i thought to myself wow) sorry begs but you set me off : i could not sit there and watch you make such crude comments and get away with it bottom line there are many fat white farang woman whales dragging there asses around pattaya and im sure if they would just join in on the party instead of passing around dirty looks they would be accepted by many board members here but the problem is they are dragging the white fat assess around the city and imposing there western ways by being snobby and giving dirty looks as they do every day here in america andthis is why many board memebres are complaining as it is beacsue of the atitudes these white woman whales are presenting. you know i had a good experience in jomtien during songkran last year , i was at a beer bar up there and there were 4 farang woman siting in there enjoying themselves and not giving dirty looks to anybody . they were between the ages of 40-50 and i guess they were mature to have an open mind about peoples lifestyles, i asked them how do they like pattaya and they said they loved it , they said they loved all smiles on everyboidies faces ,everybody havinga good time i was quite surprised and i guess they been of an ealrier generation of farang woman who knows . anyway some men here in pattaya dont want to settle down and want to have fun while others develop relationships , some guys go with girls and then give them money and tell them to leave and those girls are happy to take the money and move on. others have other ineteresting situations . There is a lot of pay for play going on . But please begs dont impose those western views around here you go t the right to post your oppinion and now i posted my oppinion back to you. I think your wrong in what you said and i know so because i can get laid in my own country but have no ineterst in farang woman anymore and im sure this is the situation with most the guys on the board ,anybody get can get laid in their own country ive seen proof of this. what we dont like in our own country is the crap we have to put up with after we get laid with a certain woman. nuff said

buddy what your looking for is not a good idea maybe because you never really spent enough time with some white farang woman, i dont mean to advise but you could save yourself some heartache if you stay away from the whit farang woman, nobody here is jelous believe me , a lot of us here have dealt with many white farangwoman and know what will happen to you if you get involved. okay good luck find your white farang woman goto america and youcan find tons them , all with that so called independent strong mind that your looking for , geeez i wonder why many american guys fly 24 hours on a 2 - 3 stop journey to get away from them?

im flying with united airlines toronto to chicago-tokyo-bangkok - 2 hour stop in chicago an d 2 hour stop in tokyo and then back , got it for $1320 all in on www.tripcentral.ca although there are some interesting itenaries on www.toureast.com if you feel like playing around with dates. where did you buy your flight from?

arrival mar.29 at 1130pm share taxi to the nana hotel send me a message if your interested in sharing one of the inside taxi limos to the nana hotel, i usaully get them for around 400-500 baht

the best fare ive ever found for toronto to bangkok is on this site www.toureast.com got availability quoted at 1220 last night inc alltaxes and charges for april to may. you havetoi play around with dates until all flights connect. wish idscovered before i bought my ticket for 1320 inc of all taxes through trip central this is all CAD funds

yes i have to agree the location of teh midtown is not really in the boonies . I can get to walking street in about 7 minutes walking , as soon as you exit out of the hotel you go to that big intersection where you can go diagonally to the left , this road takes you near tonys disco or diagonaly to the right an this road takes you more to the middle of walking street ,that road passes that seafood place with the high roof , this place has the cheapest lobster per pound rate that ive seen but they dont really do up the lobster where is some of teh other places you can have termidor style with cheese and all. and yes another cool thing is the songtaew stops right in front of midtown to go to jomtien or you can take the other songtaew to go all th eway to north pattaya. the only thing i dont like about midtown is they are a little too south pattaya, I actually have a lot more fun in north pattaya , i find that the girls up in north pattaya are little more fun and are less money hungry and seem to do better in bed , thats been my experience , where as in walking street beer bars i seem to come across a some starfishes except for the gogos . but luck be it ive always had more fun and cheaper fun with the girls in north pattaya.those beer bars in soi 1 and soi 2 and all the other sois around there. Gotta watch out lot of lady boys up there too theres a little too many up that way too. i want to try some grils in the so called naklua beer bar area apparantly i hear there pretty slow up there and girls are really freindly. Any bosy know anything abouyt naklua road beer bars any good ecperiences up that way. I think i got off topic on the hotels sorry............ sommy

heres the info on the midtown inn: adress:373/1 phatumnuk road south pattaya chonburi 20260 thailand calling in thailand: 038-428674 or 429744 form abroad: 6638438674 or 6638429744 fax#038421997 this is all from there business card sam

apex definietely a bad place withall there dodgy staff and bed bugs . however the buffet is good , but if you that kind of buffet you can get it at lek hotel , anybody ever stay at the lek hotel? is it anygood ? or do we all just eat there? sommy

now stay at the mid town, its a hard to notice place on located on south premniuk road. if you head south on 2nd road ity turns into preminiuk road , after you pass VC hotel a few more blocks is soi yensabai you see its parking lot beside the food stall. very cheap looking sign. its an inn style motel with 2 floors where the doors of your room go out to the pool outside. bad points not much security the doors have spring latch locks , no dead bolt security here. if you pissed off some teeruk she could probaably break down your door. thats about it good points : they post a rate of 450 baht a night . tehy will let you negotiate a 400 baht rate per night just tell them you were there last year and you got that rate or say your friend sent you and said they would give you 400. The staff are very friendly, and honest .never had a problem. the safe is behind reception in a room enclosure and they bar lock the room after 10 or 11 or something like that and reopen at 8or 9am. no one has the key during the closed time as teh manager locks it up and than leaves. the reception has a guy monitering 24 hours a day plus they got this helper guy who roams around keeping it clean andwatching for any problems. the rooms are clean, no bugs , great maid service everyday, nice swimming pool which they clean everymorning , they got a second small pool around back too. they are guest friendly and dont require ids for your guests, im not sure if this is a good thing or not about the ids. 5-7 min walk from walking street . also the songtaew stops right in front of it to go to jomtien for 10or20baht. the rooms have a fridge and aircon. you cant control the temperature though on the air con . but youcan turnit off by switching off the power switch attached to it .the aircon is pretty quiet. they serve breakfast as they have a kitchen and a menu wuth your usual american breakfast and many thai dishes to choose from , ithink you can order food in the morning and daytime only im not sure . free drinking water from the water machine in the lobby (bring your own empty bottle) they have some pops in the mini bar fridge , they used to have beer but my last trip there were only pops in there. comfortable king beds or think they were queens. they were pretty big beds. 2 singles is also available in some rooms . i found a small little lizard in the bathroom one night manage to chase him out of the room. the roomseems to have s small widow open slightly with a screen i guess to air it out . bathroom is your standard sink and shower toilet combo found in pattaya all in one no bathtub stall . rooms are a decent size not big but not small. you get tv with a bunch of channels , nothing special not that i watch tv while im down there but the teeruks seem to like it. they were pretty discreet for me as i was butterflying likecrazy but they didnt say nothing to any of the girls , i even had this non bg coming from bkk spending weekends and holidays with me a few days at time when she was off work . they let her park her car in the lot. when she would head back to bkk to go back to work the same night id be bring back some dark teeruk from issan with losts of gold braclets on her and we know where id find her . than my non bg girl from bkk would come for another few days and they never said nothing to her despite seeing so many teeeruks come and go . they got moto bike taxis sitting outside of it all the time so if you need a quick taxi you just head to the parking lot . the rceptionisit is nice enough to book bus trips or tours or taxi to airport whatever you want if your too lazy to bookit through those agents on the street . she will arrange the crocodile farm and some other pattaya park. theone receptionist is a hottie who always has a lot of cleavage an shows a little leg usually too. when you order breakfast you can go to the pool and they will bring it out to you and you can eat by the pool there are tables there by the pool. the rooms are marble type floors. they have cheap laundry service. the place looks really cheap and your teeruk wont expect too much from you. they are pretty flexible , they let me use the pool late at night as long as i dont make lost of noise. , i fucked my teeruk in there , i dont even think they cared or noticed. good curtains on the room window complete darkness when you sleep at night. i get a good nights sleep there for some reason. the room is just comfortable. seems pretty quiet there . they seem to be very personel and friendly , i think a lot of regular people go there that go back again and again as id see guys coming in andthey knew everybody threre already . overall a great place to stay for 400 baht .The rooms are clean. whats important to me is that the staff are not dodgy. Of course this doesnt mean you should leave money or valueables in the room when your out . thats what the safe is for. air con and good service.Just lacks a little security . the only thing i leave in the room is my clothes . however it seems the stafff supervise everything taht is going on .my friend says they are watching for unusual activity even though it doesnt look like it. all i can say is its way better than the APEX in my oppinion . Wouldnever go back to teh apex. Sommy

hi im up in canada and its always hard for me to find a deal to bangkok. But here is what i use online. These sights will quotte you in canadian dollars which is a better deal for the americans since it only costs you 83.5 cents to but 1 canadian dollar . they have avaialability right now chicago to bangkok and back stopping in tokyo with united for 1289 total inc taxes which is approximately is about $1074 us dollars . If your flying from some other cities than get a quote form them and see. these are the sights www.flyforless.ca run by a travel agent in alberta www.tripcentral.ca run by a travel agent in hamilton, ontario go to the section that states cheap negotiated international fares on trip central and on fly for less i believe its under imternation fares . You can book an eticket or have tickets mailed to you depending on the airline. i hope this helps yes ive heard of people in the USA getting it for 700-900 US i guess you have to catch a seat sale with one of the airlines like . ive seen those seat sales in the past advertised on websites from northwest airlines, united , korean ,american ,japan airlines but they only offer those deals to people in the us so ive never tried to get one. so far ive been 2 times to thailand 1st year paid a total of 1220 CAD to fly toronto-detroit-LA-tokyo-bangkok and return with northwest airlines 2nd year paid a total of 1475 to fly with air canada toronto-tokyo-bangkok and return This will be my 3rd and o paid a total of 1320 to fly with united toronto-chicago-bangkok and return leaving march 28,2005 the other 2 trips left in april 2003 and april 2004 hope that helps somebody

was not able to post in the hotle despite me entering my correct login and passcode. Anyway do not stay at the apex , here are all the bad things that happened: 1st they want deposits on the mini bar and room safe key 1 day i forgot my room safe key in the room and well the maid didnt steal stuff in my safe but there really wasnt much in it anyway except for passport and other stuff but she took it back to reception and then reception would not refund my 1500 baht deposit saying that i lost it andi had to pay another 1500 to get another key(that was a scam) 2. when i was checking out they tried to pad the bill by another 2000 baht luckily i kept track of things and i argue with them and they adjusted the outstanding balanc. 3. They pad your phone bill and mini bar bill 4. Some rooms have bed bugs , the one i had had them and i had to change these bugs bite you and give you little red marks and when you try to sleep they make you itchy all over. 5. the room i had had some noisy power supply that keeps making loud clicking noises when using the aircon 6.When you checkout they purposely try to forget to refund your mini bar deposit and sometimes they want to see your receipts (keep all your receipts) 7. Yes the reception staff are dodgy people as one guy had said in the reviews. 8. count your mini bar when you check in there the only good things about it is the restaarant downstairs and the buffet and the proximaty to many beer bars and many bargirls . at 500 baht i would not stay there as the employees are not trustworthy and the hotel in general is not that good for 400 baht a night i stay in a better place with people who are honest .im never going back to that hotel and thank god my freind recomended me a much better one