Airbus and Boeing products running behind schedule

[TheFiend 1,181]

BTW be prepared for the EU taxpayer to dig even deeper in your collective pocket for more money as the R&D bill keep coming in for the A350 and the A380 program that's still deep in the red.

 

Here we have Septic who doesn't know what he is talking about!

 

The EU taxpayer doesn't dig in my pocket......

 

I pay my taxes to the Inland Revenue. then the UK Government and the EU distribute my taxes on my behalf...

Edited June 27, 2010 by TheFiend

[BigDUSA 71]

I'm sure you are. Just as I'm sure that you are an Irish/European citizen. I wouldn't get upset about it - it's a big plus as far as I'm concerned.

 

You forgot to add my Israeli citizenship. I know you haven't forgot that one.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

You forgot to add my Israeli citizenship. I know you haven't forgot that one.

 

I haven't forgotten , but since Israel isn't part of the European Union I can't see that it's particularly relevant in this thread.

Edited June 27, 2010 by CheshireTom

[BigDUSA 71]

I haven't forgotten , but since Israel isn't part of the European Union I can't see that it's particularly relevant in this thread.

 

I was just checking that you haven't forgotten my Jewish heritage.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I was just checking that you haven't forgotten my Jewish heritage.

 

There's nowt wrong with being an Irish/European Jew. Leopold Bloom was one of Joyce's great characters.

Edited June 27, 2010 by CheshireTom

[wacmedia 277]

Hi,

 

Back on topic. If this bugger(787)ever going to go into commercial operation ?

[BigDUSA 71]

Hi,

 

Back on topic. If this bugger(787)ever going to go into commercial operation ?

 

According to Boeing if the test program doesn't run into a major problem the first deliveries should be by the end of this year.

[wacmedia 277]

if

 

Hi,

 

A big one.

[BigDUSA 71]

Hi,

 

A big one.

 

With any test program IF is always a big deal.

[BigDUSA 71]

Boeing resumes 787 flight testing after three-day halt

By Aaron Karp | June 29, 2010

 

Boeing restarted 787 flight testing Sunday and Monday following a three-day suspension to inspect the Alenia Aeronautica-produced horizontal stabilizers on its five flight test aircraft.

 

The manufacturer also is conducting testing on all its in-production Dreamliners (ATW Daily News, June 28). In what appeared to be the first major snag since launching flight testing last December, the company cited a "workmanship issue" that was "recently identified" with the horizontal stabilizers, explaining, "Some airplanes have issues with improperly installed shims and the torque of associated fasteners."

 

It insisted that first delivery to ANA in the fourth quarter "remains on track." According to both the Seattle Times and SeattlePI, two of the five flight test aircraft have resumed flying (the sixth and final flight test aircraft is slated to make its first flight next month).

 

Boeing made no comment on whether it has found issues with the horizontal stabilizers on flight test or production aircraft that would require rework.

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[TheFiend 1,181]

Boeing resumes 787 flight testing after three-day halt

By Aaron Karp | June 29, 2010

 

Boeing restarted 787 flight testing Sunday and Monday following a three-day suspension to inspect the Alenia Aeronautica-produced horizontal stabilizers on its five flight test aircraft.

 

The manufacturer also is conducting testing on all its in-production Dreamliners (ATW Daily News, June 28). In what appeared to be the first major snag since launching flight testing last December, the company cited a "workmanship issue" that was "recently identified" with the horizontal stabilizers, explaining, "Some airplanes have issues with improperly installed shims and the torque of associated fasteners."

 

Sounds like Boeing have a quality control issue. It sounds they failed to check them properly when they assembled the airframes.....

 

Yet again they try to blame the suppliers rather than themselves.

Edited June 29, 2010 by TheFiend

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Sounds like Boeing have a quality control issue. It sounds they failed to check them properly when they assembled the airframes.....

 

Yet again they try to blame the suppliers rather than themselves.

 

Maybe they realised that Italians work on kg/cm.

[BigDUSA 71]

Sounds like Boeing have a quality control issue. It sounds they failed to check them properly when they assembled the airframes.....

 

Yet again they try to blame the suppliers rather than themselves.

 

I agree Boeing probably checked the first two units that came in and they met spec and then dropped the ball. A fair share of the blame goes to the supplier. WTF kind of quality control are they running.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I agree Boeing probably checked the first two units that came in and they met spec and then dropped the ball. A fair share of the blame goes to the supplier. WTF kind of quality control are they running.

 

Or, more likely, the specs were wrong in the first place.

[TheFiend 1,181]

I agree Boeing probably checked the first two units that came in and they met spec and then dropped the ball. A fair share of the blame goes to the supplier. WTF kind of quality control are they running.

 

Quality Control is down to Boeing... It should be checking all parts received are up to the required standard. And if they suspect a suppliers parts are not up to the required standard then Boeing should send their own QC down to the suppliers to find out why.

[BigDUSA 71]

Or, more likely, the specs were wrong in the first place.

 

Maybe so maybe not. It the specs were wrong in the first place then this would rank along with the infamous Airbus wiring harness fiasco or it could be up there with the Airbus wing not meeting spec.

 

I'll hang my yarmulke on Boeing's Euro supplier fucking up.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Maybe so maybe not. It the specs were wrong in the first place then this would rank along with the infamous Airbus wiring harness fiasco or it could be up there with the Airbus wing not meeting spec.

 

I'll hang my yarmulke on Boeing's Euro supplier fucking up.

 

What are you on about supplier? Alenia Aeronautica is a risk-sharing partner in the project. Sheesh!

[TheFiend 1,181]

I'll hang my yarmulke on Boeing's Euro supplier fucking up.

 

Boeings quality control fucking up more like it!!!

 

But what would a postman know about quality control??? Sweet FA!!!!

[BigDUSA 71]

What are you on about supplier? Alenia Aeronautica is a risk-sharing partner in the project. Sheesh!

 

WOW risk sharing partner or bog standard supplier. They still are the Euro company that fucked up.

[TheFiend 1,181]

This is not the first quality control issue Boeing has had lately..... remember the delay caused by some fasteners?

 

Definitely looks like a Boeing problem rather than suppliers. But as always Boeing blames the suppliers.

 

It has nowt to do with the supplier being a Euro company.

 

Like I said before...... what would a postman know about quality control??? Sweet FA!!!!

[CheshireTom 1,377]

This is not the first quality control issue Boeing has had lately..... remember the delay caused by some fasteners?

 

Definitely looks like a Boeing problem rather than suppliers. But as always Boeing blames the suppliers.

 

It has nowt to do with the supplier being a Euro company.

 

Like I said before...... what would a postman know about quality control??? Sweet FA!!!!

 

He's going to need some serious dental work if he continues to stick his foot in his gob ....

 

How sweet it is. Once again American ingenuity and manufacturing prowess comes to the fore. Along with the many suppliers all over the globe the Dreamliner rolls out ahead of schedule with the engines attached.

[BigDUSA 71]

This is not the first quality control issue Boeing has had lately..... remember the delay caused by some fasteners?

 

Definitely looks like a Boeing problem rather than suppliers. But as always Boeing blames the suppliers.

 

It has nowt to do with the supplier being a Euro company.

 

Like I said before...... what would a postman know about quality control??? Sweet FA!!!!

 

If I remember correctly it was the same valued Euro risk sharing partner that had the problem with faulty fasteners or could it be Lucas the famed Euro company that's world renowned for it state of the art quality control.

[BigDUSA 71]

He's going to need some serious dental work if he continues to stick his foot in his gob ....

 

I still have all my teeth. See what good dental care will do for you. As I've always said to our daughter. Take good care of your teeth and they will take good care of you.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

If I remember correctly it was the same valued Euro risk sharing partner that had the problem with faulty fasteners or could it be Lucas the famed Euro company that's world renowned for it state of the art quality control.

 

0/10. Promise me you'll try and do better - it's getting boring now.

 

Vought and Global Aeronautica in Charleston, and Spirit in Wichita.

 

As you said, "Once again American ingenuity and manufacturing prowess comes to the fore". Quite.

Edited June 30, 2010 by CheshireTom

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I still have all my teeth. See what good dental care will do for you.

 

A pity you didn't extend the same principle to your knackers.