HERE IS A Nice Futures fund that can make you a Great Yeild

[mrstein 0]

Looking to invest and get Nice returns.

 

Futures arent such a bad way to go,Many funds out there that are doing well over the last few years.

 

Here is one in particular that looks fairly well.

 

See Below

 

Regards

 

Mrstein

 

 

 

 

 

Nick Hammer and Infinity Brokerage Services, Inc. are pleased to introduce World Capital Index Trading. This program is managed by Michael Odell Anderson, Gary A. Futch and Richard A. Barber through their registered Commodity Trading Advisor; World Capital Inc.

 

Methodology

 

World capital's program consists of participating in options of major futures markets. The proprietary strategy consists of what is commonly known as a credit spread approach. By using technical analysis an attempt is made to determine volatility for a particular market. The program sells put and call options on the same market in order to receive the premiums for each sold position. Simultaneously, the program includes the purchase of the exact number of put and call options at different strike prices as a protective hedge device in case of adverse market movements. Most other option programs simply sell options with unlimited risk.

 

 

 

 

 

Performance

 

2004

24.97%

 

2005

21.42%

 

2006

27.42%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NOTE: Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

 

 

 

Please use the following link to access the Independent Barclay Institutional Report: www.infinitybrokerage.com/files/worldcapital.pdf

 

 

 

Program Highlights

 

Monthly Management fee: 0% (the account managers only get paid if you make money period)

 

Incentive Fee: 32% (my clients pay only 25%)

 

Commission: $25.00 inclusive of all fees per round turn (other similar programs charge $55.00)

Minimum Account: $150,000 (my clients can start with as little as $50,000)

 

Performance Analysis:

 

Total Return Since Inception, March 2004 - December 2006 93.05%

Compounded Average Annual Rate of Return: 26.13%

Sharpe Ratio: 2.47

 

Drawdown Report:

Worst peak to valley drawdown:-4.25%

 

Worst monthly drawdown: -3.74%

 

 

 

Time Windows:

 

2006 Return 27.42%

 

Total Return since Inception 93.05%

 

Compounded Annual Return 26.13%

 

Longest Period for Drawdown 2 months

 

Best 24 Month Period 62.25%

 

Worst 24 Month Period 57.55%

 

 

 

Account Types

 

The World Capital accounts are available as individual/joint, corporate, partnerships, trust and IRA accounts.

 

 

 

About Infinity

 

Infinity Brokerage Services, Inc. is an independent trading and investment firm headquartered in Chicago next to the Chicago Board of Trade providing access to the derivatives markets -- Futures, Options on Futures and FOREX. We offer a wide array of derivative products including: online futures trading platforms, online FOREX trading platforms, managed accounts and broker assist programs. Please go to http://www.infinitybrokerage.com/?ref=nham for more information.

 

 

 

If you have any questions or require additional information please do not hesitate to contact me.

 

 

 

With kind regards,

 

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

Nicholas A. Hammer

Sr. Derivatives Specialist

Infinity Brokerage Services &

ProEdge FX

111 W. Jackson BLVD. Suite 2010

Chicago, IL 60604

(800) 965-3128 toll free

(312) 373-6224 direct

(312) 373-6256 fax

mailto:n.hammer@infinitybrokerage.com

 

www.infinitybrokerage.com

www.proedgefx.com

Yahoo messenger: hammeraex

 

*Infinity Brokerage Services & ProEdge FX are Divisions of Infinity Futures, Inc. (CFTC Regulated, NFA Member)

Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and Foreign Exchange involves substantial risk of loss and may not be suitable for all investors. You should carefully consider whether trading is suitable for you in light of your circumstances, knowledge, and financial resources. You may lose all or more of your initial investment. Opinions, market data, and recommendations are subject to change at any time. The information contained on this email does not constitute a solicitation to buy or sell by Infinity Futures, Inc., and/or its affiliates, and is not to be available to individuals in a jurisdiction where such availability would be contrary to local regulation or law.

[kdc1899 1]

website did not pass the "minimum investment up front" test.

I have to make contact with them B4 I learn anything beyond the sales pitch.

 

Thanx 4 the info though

[mrstein 0]

There is NO Sales Pitch ............

 

Call them and see for yourself If it makes sense it makes sense If it doesnt fit your budget and or Risk tolerance Stay away.

 

 

I have been using High yeild investments for years, It has been good to me.

 

For many the Risk is not worth it. However I have still havent to this DAY IN AGE Found anything that You cannot lose in the long run.

 

A while back I posted about 1st trust deeds and had everyone telling me how they are so High risk Yet the company is still going strong after 10 years with NO defaults.

 

 

Its funny Blokes will bang Whores with No protection at all, But when it comes to their funds they would kill their own mothers before Risking anything.

 

Oh well Invest what works for You ...............................

 

 

Mrstein

[kdc1899 1]

What I was getting at is that I have to give them my name, address and PHONE NUMBER B4 they give me specific info. The stuff they give you B4 you give them your phone number is the sales pitch.

Now if I don't like what I hear or whom I am talking to, they sell my contact info and every gumba on the south side is callin me pimping their ride.

I have a simple test. All the info up front. Don't call me, I'll call you.

 

Thanks for the info though. I didn't know there were funds that traded global futures index's.

[mrstein 0]

Its all Good ........

 

There are many future funds that have done Quite well over the last 5 years +

 

 

Most have returns on a yearly yeild right in the 21-25% range ,All of them are at least 50 grand min"s thu Nothing under that.

 

Put out 100k and make 25 grand a year yeild, Hey that isnt too bad.

 

Regards

 

Mrstein

[Owen` 2]

Weren't you the guy pushing some kind of mortgages in Las Vegas here a few months ago as the path to billionaire-hood?

[mrstein 0]

Sure WAS :}}}}}}}}

 

Company has been around now close to ten years with EVERY SINGLE Investor getting paid on time at 13% yearly.

 

Arent YOU the guy who tells everyone how to worry about thier medicore 5-7 % returns on 401"s and such ?????

 

Suggestion let the higher yeild members WHO know a bit about this arena give the members a different spin on investments, Let YOU do what you do Lower end Safe %"s that make most pennies on the dollars.

 

Nothing personal

 

Everyone has a personal risk level they are comfortable with,I have had High yeild gains for years with No problems.

 

Once again it comes down to homework and working knowledge of the companies to invest in.

 

Huggs and KISSES

 

Stein

[The Mook 105]

uh, right...commodity futures...

 

tremendous risk involved...

 

shill it somewhere else, Mr. Used Car Salesman...

 

by the way, it's "i" before "e', except after "c"

[mrstein 0]

No more risk involved in Futures then any other investment.

 

Want safety buy US Bonds Yeild about 3% for the rest of yoru life.

 

Stein

[Greg_B 306]

Now I love a good investment, but futures can make a rich man poor & a poor man rich.

 

 

Look at the 6 month to 1 year charts on these money-makers:

 

MCD

HCSG

ARGN

[Owen` 2]

Guys,

 

Common sense. The top business schools in the world, from Harvard, to Wharton to Stanford to London School of Econ to Singapore Management University . . . put out graduates who run General Electric or Procter and Gamble or JP Morgan or Citibank or Barclays or whatever.

 

If those guys could take their shareholders' money and get them 25% per year, do you not think they would do it? Can you imagine the bonus that would be paid the CEO who was guaranteeing his shareholders 25% per year? Why would Procter and Gamble make toothpaste if their management team knew that 25% per year as far as the eye can see was available through brokerage accounts? Why would Ford or Toytota build cars?

 

In fact, it's more extreme than even this. With 25% per year guaranteed sitting back and investing the shareholders' money elsewhere, a CEO that does anything else, hiring employees that might sue, buying toothpaste factories that might break, or signing union contracts with employees that result in enormous health care costs -- he'd be sued himself for failing his fiduciary responsibility to his shareholders. It would not be just a choice for him to make. He'd be REQUIRED to make it to avoid personal bankruptcy.

 

And yet . . . have you noticed that P&G do, in fact, make toothpaste? Ford and Toyota are in the car business? GE makes light bulbs? Citibank lends money to people who want to buy houses? Barclays does the same?

 

Why might that be? Maybe it's because this is all crap.

Edited February 15, 2007 by Owen`

[mrstein 0]

OWEN

 

With All Due respect

 

You have No idea what You are talking about here at all ,You are way out of yoru league by leaps and bounds.

 

First off most if not all major Corps in america Have a great deal of thier portfolio in these same Excat funds and Not to mention Most Have tens of millions in Forex funds all over the world.

 

Citibank at any given time has up to 600 to 8oo Million in Forex currency alone.

 

All major companies with worth over a Billion plus have many Forex, future and or Real estate holding"s all over the world.

 

The gentlemen that run the trust deed company in vegas hold upwards of 60 million at any given time on Two major banks in vegas alone.

 

Please stick to what you know BASIC Low yeild goverment bonds and 401 k"s.

 

High yeild gains can and ARE made all year around and the Risk factor on a properly placed investment with the Correct fund managment team in charge is as if Not safer then any stocks or CD"S THAT pay 5 and half %.

 

Think I am incorrect, call UBS Warberg see where most of thier investment monies are placed !!!

 

You want to make big money, You Need Big money.Its that simple.

 

High yeild investing is the Only way to go.

 

The rest is for the Common man that is happy making pennies.

[The Mook 105]

Your statement is simply not true.

Futures have the added risk of time, as in options expiration.

 

I've worked in the fixed income markets for 20 years.

You're statement shows you for what you are, that is, a huckster.

 

Take a look at the return of the S&P since WWII and you will see

how to make real money over time.

 

Your 'high yield is the only way to go' schemes, are just that,

'get rich quick' schemes.

 

Take a fucking walk.

[mrstein 0]

OHHHH OK

 

Another 50k a year employee telling a 500K a year guy how to invest.

 

Hey maybe I should just keep my money in the Bank and collect 3-5 % a year THAT WOULD BE SAFE.

 

 

Unreal Goes to show you How many regular Joes Have No clue on Investment with larger type portfolio"s

 

 

I tried,,,,,,Anyone who is reading the post For shit"s and giggles call the company above and See for yourself I have nothing to do with them at all.

 

OR Wait for posters WHO are imposters that Talk all the time But yet never come with anything or anybody

 

HMMMMMM I wonder why ??????

 

Put your SO called investment teams up on the board and Lets see who is Full of shit and Who isnt ????

 

Stein

[Sailfast 503]

500K per year at 20% return rate for 20 yrs and you are worth 20 million.

 

Why are you wasting time on this board, you should own your own country by now.

[Owen` 2]

$500K a year . . . will buy a lot of beer.

 

Sailfast, $20 million in 20 yrs? No. This guy is big time.

 

It's about 125 million depending on compounding frequency (weekly, monthly, yearly etc).

Edited February 17, 2007 by Owen`

[jackcorbett 2]

Speaking as a farmer who has a farm that raises corn and soybeans we farmers have been forced to sell ahead, oftentimes before being sure there is going to be a crop. Needless to say an awful lot of money is riding on whether these commodities rise or fall and when we sell our grain whether it's the cash crop or on the board of trade. Needless to say there's been a lot of outfits trying to sell various "marketing tools" to help enable us farmers spread our risk due to market fluctuations and in the past 35 years I've not seen a single one of them do any better than the dartboard approach. And none of my farming pals have either. We've seen a few suicides among both farmers and grain elevator owners who's gotten on the wrong side of futures trading.

 

So, with this little bit of knowledge under my belt, I walked out of an expats meeting (which are normally quite good) when the guest speaker got up to sell his get rich quick schemes based on the rise and fall of commodities because as far as I was concerned, the man had nothing to say, nothing of value to offer, and all he wanted to do was to make a living at someone else's expense.

Edited February 17, 2007 by jackcorbett

[mrstein 0]

And You know something YOU could be right.

 

 

However any traded type enviroment is High risk to a certain point.

 

With that being said You have to look for the right fund"s and or managers.

 

RJO Futures in Chicago Comes to mind Over 100 years of trading under there belt.

 

Managed Forex funds have Done Outstanding the last 10 years.

 

1st trust deeds with the Right company have brought in 12-15 % yeilds for years also.

 

There are many option to gain 13/22% all over the board,Biggest problem for most is the CASH needed to get in.

 

You need at least 100K To make Real money.

 

My portfolio have Done quite well over the last 4 or 5 years However it took me many to make and save that money to get there.

 

Not to mention I have High Risk patience Many Investors CAN not handle that type of Storm if it goes wrong.

 

Point is this. THERE ARE many ways to make VERY good money with High risk. However anything in todays World Is not safe anymore.

 

Talk to me about getting a Defense contract Is that High risk and under scruinty also ?????

 

Look at the Kingdom of Smiles, Every chance This Filthy Goverment gets to run it up a Farangs ASS they DO !!!!!!!!!!!

 

And yet Most of US return year after year ............ I think there is Some Irony to be said.

 

High Yeild investments are ALIVE AND WELL IN America...... You just need to know whom to deal with and whom Not to deal with.

 

Once again GO AHEAD Call above and You BE the Judge........Call RJO Futures Most of there High end portfolios have been doing yeilds of over 18 % plus for YEARS.

 

RJO Futures

222 South Riverside Plaza | 9th Floor | Chicago, Illinois 60606

 

800.441.1616 | 312.373.5478

 

 

 

Stein

Edited February 18, 2007 by mrstein

[The Mook 105]

Only a total blowhard in the financial buisiness would quote his own salary out loud.

 

You are so full of shit it's beyond belief.

 

The words at the end of this post are the last response you'll ever get out of me.

 

Now fuck off.

[mrstein 0]

OHHHHH OK Donald Trump

 

You know it all ?????????

 

Once again Another Poster Who hasnt made any calls, Who hasnt done any research, Who doesnt know Jack shit. And is telling me to Fuck off.

 

Let US all know when You come up with a Brighter Idea. AS matter of fact WHY Don"t YOU put some Strong investment Companies on Here for ALL of us to review ?

 

Always the same Shitbirds that Claim they know something and YET cannot back anything up.

 

The phone numbers are alive and well. YOU MAKE THE CALL.

 

Stein

[jackcorbett 2]

How about a pyramid scheme? Any one of them will do. Proof? Just make a phone call and check it out and they'll tell you about all the people who started with nothing, worked just four hours a day, and became millionaires within four years. Here's a phone number you can try right now to get the scoop from the horse's ass's mouth itself. 1-414-deluded.

[Owen` 2]

I'd like to clarify the mathematical realities above to be sure folks understand what the numbers mean.

 

 

500K/yr compounding at 20% annually (a return on investment number smaller than some years quoted, but 20% suffices as an average) for 20 years will yield a lot of money. Note the end point for this would be age 45 for any 25 year olds who want to embark on it (and are fool enough to think it is real).

 

The generic formula is ( 1.0 + return rate) ^ year total. That is for compound interest. It is NOT for an inverse annuity, which is what an ongoing addition of 500K/yr would be.

 

Yr Added Total

 

1 500K 550K

2 500K 1.26 million

3 500K 2.12 mill

4 500K 3.146 mil

5 500K 4.37 mill

6 500K 5.85 mill

7 500K 7.62 mill

8 500K 9.74 mill

9 500K 12.29 mill

10 500K 15.35 mill

11 500K 19.02 mill

12 500K 23.42 mill

13 500K 28.7 mill

14 500K 35.05 mill

15 500K 42.6 mill

16 500K 51.8 mill

17 500K 62.7 mill

18 500K 75.9 mill

19 500K 91.69 mill

20 500K 110 million

 

With that kind of dough, you could probably own a Pattaya bar.

[sabang 0]

The methodology of the fund is sound enough, but the returns of the past few years may not be sustainable.

The past 5 years has been good for futures funds, as we have had a bull market in commodities accompanied by a fair degree of volatility. This is an ideal environment for managed futures funds, in spite of the old mantra that 'futures can make money whatever happens to the market'.

When I was responsible for allocating funds for an offshore financial advisory company, I invested several million in a guaranteed futures fund, the underlying Trading Adviser being Richard Dennis- a legend in the industry. The extrapolated results based on carrying forward a 5 year track record exceeded 40% compound. Unfortunately, the fund lasted around six months before the capital guarantee was invoked, and the fund ceased trading.

As you have correctly disclaimed, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

[stevoman 2]

MrSTEIN you sound awfully familiar,do you also post under this name on the Angeles City2 web-site??

[Gary 4,118]

FUTURES! At least it's an honest description. If I knew what the future was going to bring I would indeed be a wealthy man in a short time. Years ago I made a lot of money in the stock market. It was so easy and simple that I convinced myself that I would retire VERY young and very wealthy. To finish this story, I should have quit while I was ahead. I kept all the money in the market and learned why I had no business trying to play with the big boys. I lost all my profits and more. Conservative ETF's will give you a decent return and they are relatively low risk as long as you are diversified. Greed is NOT good. I was enjoying a nine percent return and decided to get back in the stock market. Now I remember why I got out of the market.