Soi Buakhao guesthouse/hotel pick

[valentinoxxx 4]

Owl

 

I can understand why you might not have any friends.......who would be willing to keep something for you. :)

 

The buying of a safe or another utility for your accommodation is not as outlandish as you may think. It may not have suited you, but a more polite reply would have been appropriate.

 

There is a well worn system of purchasing goods for use whilst on holiday and then getting a portion of your money back from the local second hand/pawn shop. There are at least a couple in Soi Buakhao.

[Emil 0]

Possibility! You mean you haven't already convinced some to do it! And now you're talking about a 4000 baht safe!!! What happened to the 700 baht safe? And once again your just talking theory again about saving 8000 bahts. Where's a valid example that you can show me? People don't buy theory's unless you can prove it! You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to get a "like" room that has a safe and it's the same price as the room with out a safe? Then I don't have to go thought all the trouble and time to buy a safe, then find someone to sell it too. And I'll go to the beer bars and Hell Club anyway and have more time to boot!

 

Like I said above, if I make a statement that you're going to save 200 bahts I'm going to provide facts and examples to prove my point and cover my ass. You have not done this time and time again and only have provided a theory to work on. Where are your valid examples to prove that it can be done? Not your here say, but valid black and white example that you can point to to show me that this can be done?

 

Once again I don't know it all and I'm here on the board to learn and get "facts" on what I want to know. You're making all the suggestions, possibility's and theory's and telling me about your exploring of tons of hotels so you are talking like you're the "know it all" with a new possibility every time you reply. Not me! So please don't bother to reply to me again since everything you said I've rebutted. Because all this is all growing old and I don't want to get any more into the topic. I've proved my point and you haven't been able to provide me with real black and white examples. My original question has been answered so I'm done with all your theory's and possibility's. You have wasted enough of my time, so I will go back to reading other articles here and on other Pattaya type forums. Go and try and convince someone else to buy your 700 baht safe. Cause I ain't buying it! The safe or your ideas! Good bye and good luck to you.

 

 

Let me see if I can dumb this down for you.

 

I didn't tell you or anyone one else to buy the 700 baht safe. I said that Carrefour sells safes starting at 700 baht.

 

The amount of baht that one would save would be dependent upon the length on of stay.

 

I'm not about to tell you or anyone else which hotel to select as I don't know yours or anyone elses desires. The mention of buying a safe was to let boardmembers know that there is an option if they see a room they like but that this room doesn't have the safe feature that they desire.

 

As an example, if the Kerrati place that you seem to be interested in didn't have a safe and the price is what Steve mentioned at 19k a month and another place that met all your needs including the in room safe cost 25k a month then you could spend up to 6k on a safe and not loose any baht even if you threw the safe in the trash. If one is on a short holiday it isn't worth the effort nor would it cover the cost.

[Sa-teef 44]

You're not going to show me any hotel rooms because you can't produce any to back up your statements. Your just spitting out a theory and throwing out number and that's all you are doing. You got nothing to back you up except a wild theory. Like I said you cannot compare a room from one hotel to another hotel because they are all different so don't waste my time. I think that no one here is even going to think about going out and buying one of your 700 baht safe .........

 

And like I said, why the heck would I want to buy a safe and then give it to somebody in "hope" that he'll give it back when I return. What if he moves or dies or gets in an accident before I get back then I'm out 700 bahts, right? That's way to much trouble for 700 bahts. So tell me, have you bought one of these 700 baht safe and do you now have a friend who stores it for you when you return to the states?

 

I'd rather spend that 700 bahts at a beer bar while having fun with the girls.

 

 

Let's just hope he never gets sick and has to set-up an appeal, banking on all his buddies to pitch-in for him?

[Owl_ 0]

Owl

 

I can understand why you might not have any friends.......who would be willing to keep something for you. :)

 

The buying of a safe or another utility for your accommodation is not as outlandish as you may think. It may not have suited you, but a more polite reply would have been appropriate.

 

There is a well worn system of purchasing goods for use whilst on holiday and then getting a portion of your money back from the local second hand/pawn shop. There are at least a couple in Soi Buakhao.

 

I'm very sorry Valentinoxxx that you think that I do not have any friends here, due to the tone on my response to another BM here. I have pointed out in a reply that I am very easy going and I have made many friends while in Pattaya over the past three years while visiting Pattaya. I am in e-mail contact with many of those people from Hong Kong, Sweden and the US.

 

 

The buying a safe would be a good investment if and when I become a long time resident in Pattaya, but I feel for short term people that it would be more of a time consuming burden then a cost saving item. If you can really reap a saving on hotel/apartment rooms then why hasn't someone started a rental program in Pattaya for in-room safes to people on vacation/holiday? If someone is doing this now I think we would of heard about it by now. And I only get huffy as others do upon me and tries to force an idea on me without any valid proof. This proof can come in the form of pointing a person to websites and showing me price comparison etc. But in the end it would be all judgmental in our likes and dislike of said rooms, location etc. I'm sure emil is a nice guy and a good friend to others but I do not like being force feed an ideal I do not believe in. So if my tone of writing offends you then I am very sorry.

 

 

Thank you for pointing out the options of the pawn shop, but like I have said before I would rather find the room of my choice rather then spend unnecessary time away from my main purpose for coming to Pattaya and that is to be on vacation/holiday. I am replying to you now to apologizes because my tone of reply might of offended you.

Edited June 23, 2007 by Owl_

[mulphy 3]

how you doing guys , i own the rockhouse on soi l.k. metro , which has been mentioned by another poster earlier in the thread.

 

our apartments are the biggest of any that have been mentioned so far in the thread , and i can back that up by saying ive been in the other ones mentioned.

 

i cant knock the metropole hotel for anything except the price , its very nice.

 

keerati too which is owned by the metropole hotel is very nice , but pricey in high season , though they are doing a great offer now for low season.

 

j&p apartments and opey de place are pretty basic by the standard set by the ones mentioned above.

 

the rockhouse facilities include , king size beds , full air conditioning , ceiling fans , large screen tv. dvd player, mini bar , refridgerator, tea and coffee making facilities , in room safes , free wifi internet , seperate lounge area , massive barhrooms , hot and cold water , electric shower , balcony, and no extra charge for water or electric usage.

 

we do not however have baths in our bathrooms or a swimming pool and although we do not have a functional kitchen we do provide room service from local restaurants . the menus for these restaurants can be found in the apartments .

 

more information can be got in the hotel and accomodation section of this forum or at www.the-rockhouse.com.

[donnykey 0]

owl let it go for "SAFE'S" sake

[valentinoxxx 4]

Dear Owl

 

Clearly it wasn't only me who was shocked by your tone.

 

No one forced their ideas upon you.

 

The poster simply tried to explain the concept to you, thinking that you may not have understood. Being helpful should not be rewarded with brusqueness.

The poster stood to make no profit from his efforts.

 

It is only you who has described the buying of an item as an investment.

 

 

I sometimes stay in a 200 square metre beachfront apartment. No hifi sytem. Would I consider buying a music sytem for a two week stay? Yes. not as an investment, but because that is what I wanted.

 

If it meant buying one for 2000 baht and handing it to the pawn shop for 1000 two weeks later, I would.

 

I'd be taking the apartment because of the space, location etc I wouldn't discount it because it was lacking a music system.

 

So, the point was if you found a great place at the right price, without a safe, there is an option. :)

Up to you.

 

mulph

 

There doesn't appear to be a seperate lounge area from the pictures that I've seen. It looks like one room.

[mulphy 3]

Dear Owl

 

Clearly it wasn't only me who was shocked by your tone.

 

No one forced their ideas upon you.

 

The poster simply tried to explain the concept to you, thinking that you may not have understood. Being helpful should not be rewarded with brusqueness.

The poster stood to make no profit from his efforts.

 

It is only you who has described the buying of an item as an investment.

I sometimes stay in a 200 square metre beachfront apartment. No hifi sytem. Would I consider buying a music sytem for a two week stay? Yes. not as an investment, but because that is what I wanted.

 

If it meant buying one for 2000 baht and handing it to the pawn shop for 1000 two weeks later, I would.

 

I'd be taking the apartment because of the space, location etc I wouldn't discount it because it was lacking a music system.

 

So, the point was if you found a great place at the right price, without a safe, there is an option. :)

Up to you.

 

mulph

 

There doesn't appear to be a seperate lounge area from the pictures that I've seen. It looks like one room.

 

 

the main bedroom and lounge area are open plan.

[Owl_ 0]

Dear Owl

 

Clearly it wasn't only me who was shocked by your tone.

 

You and the other poster? A body of two is the total I see at this point!

 

No one forced their ideas upon you.

 

The poster simply tried to explain the concept to you, thinking that you may not have understood. Being helpful should not be rewarded with brusqueness.

The poster stood to make no profit from his efforts.

 

Did I say that the poster stands to make a profit from this idea? No! You are the one mentioning this not me. But he is stating that I am going to make a profit by buying a 700 baht safe, but I just wanted the the poster to state examples in Pattaya in which a like rooms justifies a difference of 200 bahts when there is or is not a safe in the room. If he states that there is a 200 baht difference then he must have some sort of reference in mind before he made that statement. Right? I just wanted to know where he got his "facts" to base his concept from. Is it to much that I ask for examples that support him concept so that I can really tell if his concept really works?

 

And when he continues to tell me that I stand to make a profit because of this 200 baht difference and that I would save because of his so called concept in purchasing a 700 baht safe! I would say that he is trying to force his idea on me when I explain to him that his ideal doesn't sound like it would make a profit in the first place and that I needed real examples to back up his theory.

 

It is only you who has described the buying of an item as an investment.

I sometimes stay in a 200 square metre beachfront apartment. No hifi sytem. Would I consider buying a music sytem for a two week stay? Yes. not as an investment, but because that is what I wanted.

 

If it meant buying one for 2000 baht and handing it to the pawn shop for 1000 two weeks later, I would.

 

Read again what I said. I said that "The buying a safe would be a good investment if and when I become a long time resident in Pattaya, . Yes, I said that because if I were to become a full time resident, any items I purchased would becomes a long investment because I am spreading it over the length of time I would live here. A hi-fi systems is also an investment because you purchased that items to make your stay more comfortable by having music, if you so choose. If the hi-fi was not an investment then you would just leave it in the apartment and not go to the pawn shop to recoup some money from it.

 

 

I'd be taking the apartment because of the space, location etc I wouldn't discount it because it was lacking a music system.

 

So, the point was if you found a great place at the right price, without a safe, there is an option. :)

Up to you.

 

A safe is an amenity that hotels/apartment offers as part of a list of items to lure customers to their establishment so that they can make money and stay in business (just like a hi-fi as you stated). I fully agree that it depends on size of the room, the amenity they offer, and the locations of their hotel/apartment which sets the foundations of their prices. I mentioned that earlier to the poster. That is why I am on here and asking the question about apartment/hotels before I ever book with them. A room "without" a safe (for me) is not an option at this point in time because it is an amenity that I prefer having when I "arrive" in Pattaya and check into my room. Being that Pattaya is a buyers market in the way of hotel/apartment rooms, I can pick and choose to find the room with the amenities I want before I ever get there. This is how I choose to do it. Up to me!

 

mulph

 

There doesn't appear to be a seperate lounge area from the pictures that I've seen. It looks like one room.

 

Mulph you have a nice place and I like your rooms.

Edited June 28, 2007 by Owl_

[valentinoxxx 4]

I count four.

 

Clearly you are too obtuse to notice the subtle hints passed your way.

 

Seriously, you are the dumbest person, who seems to think he's intelligent, that I have ever witnessed on this forum.

 

Do you suffer from some form of Autism?

 

Emil was clearly putting forward a hypothesis.

 

The buying of a safe is not an investment. It is a matter of what is important to the individual. If one had something of relevant value, under certain circumstances, it could be prudent to purchase a safe for a single day.

 

I could produce many examples to illustrate Emil's hypothesis, but I wouldn't wish to help an ingrate such as you. You certainly won't find anyone reading this thread falling over themselves to help you. Other than someone who hopes to gain from the interaction.

 

Anyway, I won't waste any more time on you. It you haven't got it now, you'll never get it.

 

What an unpleasant character you have.

 

Sad.

Edited June 28, 2007 by valentinoxxx

[dotcom_OD 0]

Mulphy, your Rockhouse will be one of the first hotels I will look at when I get there in November.

That way, I have a point of reference against all others that I will visit.

From the website, I like the room pic. It would be great to have more on the site to have a bird's eye view of the room.

 

I thank you for the valuable input and sharing your bar/hotel with us BM's.

By the way, do you accept credit cards as form of payment?

Edited June 28, 2007 by dotcom_OD

[Owl_ 0]

I count four.

 

I recounted, take what I said back. I count three!

 

Clearly you are too obtuse to notice the subtle hints passed your way.

 

Seriously, you are the dumbest person, who seems to think he's intelligent, that I have ever witnessed on this forum.

 

Do you suffer from some form of Autism?

 

Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Abusive language directed at me by implying with words like obtuse and Autism does nothing but show who really is trying to be intelligent with their language. You! I will not call you names but I seem to have struck a nerve with you!

 

Emil was clearly putting forward a hypothesis.

 

The buying of a safe is not an investment. It is a matter of what is important to the individual. If one had something of relevant value, under certain circumstances, it could be prudent to purchase a safe for a single day.

 

I could produce many examples to illustrate Emil's hypothesis, but I wouldn't wish to help an ingrate such as you. You certainly won't find anyone reading this thread falling over themselves to help you. Other than someone who hopes to gain from the interaction.

 

Now if you check a dictionary, one of the definition for this word "investment" is "a thing that is worth buying because it maybe profitable or useful in the future"

 

So yes! A safe can be an investment if i so choose! Purchasing a safe for one day under certain conditions. Well, I'll let someone else do that since I need one in my room for the time I am in Pattaya under my conditions.

 

 

 

 

Now you all are to fast say that you can produce examples, but in the end you won't because I'm a bad person and you don't like me! But what it really means is that you cannot! And as I stated earlier, I don't think that what he proposed is worth my effort in spending 700 bahts to make thousands of baths as he stated I could. You are fast to protect your buddy, but you are not able to back up what he has said!

 

Anyway, I won't waste any more time on you. It you haven't got it now, you'll never get it.

 

What an unpleasant character you have.

 

Sad.

 

I know that the hypothesis doesn't work and you aren't able to prove that it does work. Speaking of sad and unpleasant characters who uses abusive language! Oh, never mind since I'm not going heard from you again anyway! Good bye and good luck to you! As I can finally get away from this posting. Thank you.

Edited June 28, 2007 by Owl_

[valentinoxxx 4]

What a moron. :)

 

Actually I'm just shocked at your stupidity.

 

I don't think anyone reading this thread will come to your defence or admonish me for describing you as an idiot.

 

In your case, it is not a form of abuse. It is an accurate description. (To be so rude to someone who tried only to help and went to the trouble of providing a hypothetical illustration, can be variously described as idiotic, ungrateful, unpleasant....)

So using these words to describe you should not be viewed as abuse.

 

I don't see any reference to making profits within Emil's posts.

 

Believe me, I have good knowledge of what is available in Pattaya and and what price, but I wouldn't dream of helping you.

 

Post your picture, so we can have a pictoral representation of a dummkopf.

 

 

PS: I still see four.

PPS: Look up the meaning for hypothesis.

PPPS: Take a lot of money with you. I expect you will have to buy all of your 'friends'.

Edited June 28, 2007 by valentinoxxx

[Sa-teef 44]

"PS: I still see four.

PPS: Look up the meaning for hypothesis.

PPPS: Take a lot of money with you. I expect you will have to buy all of your 'friends'."

 

Now that's subtle!

 

 

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The guys responding were just trying to help IMO. That was my intentions I know.

 

If you don't like an hypotheis or suggestion, it's not a bad idea to just say "thanks" and move on with your questions.

 

Attacking a guy for making suggestions has a very negative effect in the long run I think.

 

You just never know; next time around that person may have some on-point experiences that could save you some time and trouble.

 

Hope you have a good trip.

 

 

 

~Sa-teef

[meatjoy 0]

I stayed at Keerati Home Stay for the month of June 2006.

 

 

1) Twice the size.

2) Considerably cheaper.

3) A lot friendlier.

 

I've been opting for the later recently and like it a lot better.

 

I don't really need the underlined above because Pattaya has:

 

1) Free internet in lots of places. I use the wifi at Canterbury Tales while I have breakie with Dave.

2) There are beeches in Pattaya! The thais use them. So can you.

3) Exercise? Ugh! Enough said!

4) Room service? Send the teelack out for food! There are always 2-3 food carts wtihin 100 meters of my front door. And Numchai, the best thai food on Soi Bhuakow is only a few blocks away.

 

Quit cluttering up my neighborhood with fancy-shmancy falang joints and enjoy something a little closer to Thailand.

~Sa-teef