joekicker

Well.... no. Most wars are started when the army or equivalent of one country attacks the territory of another. I can't remember a war that started over the equivalent of Newfie jokes -- punchups, sure, but not real wars. .

If they still perform, I think this is the only place they still are on. .

Are you a student of my wife? Did you know that she answers questions with questions? If you think the world economy stopped some THAI flights, put it down, be ready to defend it. .

Yes. In fact you're not really suggesting it, you are stating it. But you don't or won't say what IS the total reason. I... er, "suggested" that reduced passenger numbers is because of the floods. I "suggest" the hip bone's connected to the leg bone. I can't think of any other reason BUT floods. You won't state another reason. So far, in our search for reasons we have the following reasons stated: 1. Floods. I wouldn't mind seeing a longer list. .

Can't edit a post. Blasted machines!! I want to mark this prediction and we'll see what's what. Do you have a base machine or three that you'd care to use as a comparison in a few months?

Uh-huh. Could you identify who wrote this? Seems I wasn't arguing at all, until you brought it up again. And since you did, I did. Fine, now you want to change the English language. You're an ambitious person. Okay, what the heck? So putting prices up is profiteering. So what, then, do you call it when someone ILLEGALLY raises the price of, oh, say, the price of rice -- in the middle of a natural disaster to people caught up IN that disaster in... oh, I don't know, say, Bangkok? Raises the price of a necessity, a controlled-price necessity, breaks the law, during a natural disaster. What do we call that? If we call it "profiteering" then there's no difference between that and raising the price of hard drives or, as you put it "stock". But it *IS* different. One, it's illegal. Two, it's a necessity. So it is not the SAME as raising the price of stock. Do you have a word for it? We used to have a word for it, until you took it. And I don't know you, but do me (and you) a favour and DON'T use a dictionary, there's ever so much better available. Using a dictionary is just another version of Godwin's law. .

Um. Well, yes. And the reason Emirates was half full? And the reason THAI did fly, but flew fewer flights? Different reasons? Nothing to do with floods? Reset. I'm saying the floods are the reason that caused THAI to decide it had so few passengers that it cancelled floods. And I'll add that the floods are the reason Emirates had so few passengers. I'd sure take any correction. Do you think there's a different reason? Or, better, do you KNOW there's a different reason that you can sock it to me with? .

The Royal Thai Air Force allows Thai Airways International and others to use the Don Muang air base, which is where the headquarters of the RTAF are located. "Allows" in exchange for significant money, of course. Lat Krabang isn't flooded, although it has had overflow from the klong a few times now for hours at a time. The "wall of water floods from the North" if you get my tortured shorthand, hasn't got anywhere near Suvarnabhumi - but there's lots of water at the airport because of natural drainage and rains. Pumps and an excellent system of drains have taken care of it - water off a duck's back so to speak, no sweat. Bangkok will be de-flooded by Nov. 26. The floods won't be an issue. You'll have to search very hard for any last, remaining floods in remote Bangkok corners. I don't predict very often, but I predict this. The floods are history as of tomorrow, it's just a question of pumping, now. There are two reasons Don Muang airport still exists. One, the generals don't want to move to Korat. Two, inertia. It has no ACTUAL value. There have been more ideas of what to do with Don Muang than you can count, but none of them is viable. .

I guess I owe you a big apology, because you would NEVER play gotcha and I made the error of writing about water generally for sale in Thailand. I should have realised you were talking about California, what else would anyone who would never play gotcha be discussing on a Pattaya board in a thread about beaches and water in Pattaya? Did you know that Arrowhead.... okay of course you do but probably lots of people don't know that Arrowhead (the water-peddling company) uses water from the municipal water supply of Livermore? Lake Arrowhead, California, Elevation 5,108 feet. You California people sure got big heads about "mountains". Hell, my little plot of America is higher than that, and it's in a CITY. When we go to the mountains, we go up from there. But I know your bigged-up low-lying foothills "spring water" from the city of Livermore is terrific. I've sure passed a lot of it, given it's so cheap. And I'm positive it must have some relation to this thread about Thailand beaches and water that you'll explain as you go along. .

Good pix, Gabor, thanks. Wouldn't you know the religious extremists would be out trying to take over a secular holiday? .

Must be expensive, flying to Mexico for ingredients? I wonder how he'd finance such trips. .

Talk about coincidence. It still is an airbase. .

In Mexico maybe. In the US, about $120 today, says Mr Google. They WERE $100. Then Thailand had a flood. .

Okay. I didn't get it, totally admitted that. I get it. Thanks. Guess it's true that when you have to explain jokes, they aren't all that funny. .

Yet, you seem to have got past it even better than the flu, which knocked you into bed for a few weeks, total. You've coped well with this dirty, filthy water, or at least your body has, as has mine, as have all of ours, I suspect. .

Didn't say that. The flood water that stagnates in Bangkok and is pumped into the klongs goes into the river (and two other rivers) below Bangkok. What would you call it... "original" flood water pretty much *is* the Chao Phraya above Bangkok. It's flowing very fast (very fast) and doesn't *collect* filth like the stagnating waters in Bangkok. Also. The flood waters in very flat Bangkok are pumped and they recede so slowly that most of the filth actually remains in Bangkok, sinking and settling on the streets, in houses, in fields as the actual water starts flowing south again. Bangkok drinking water, where most of the Bangkok-area bottled-water companies get their water just like us consumers, comes from the river above Bangkok. It's actually taken into klongs FROM the river to various pumping, management and treatment plants. It's well tested, well managed and all. Here it is in real time. There's a lot of concern at flood time every year but so far there have NEVER been problems with waterborne disease. Knock on wood of course. .

One of us found out what is EXACTLY true. The other one doesn't want to know, won't ask, isn't curious, but still seems happy enough if unproductive on the subject. "Mountain spring water", heh. Good one. Designed a label, did you? .

I'm sorry but I don't get it. Either there is an urban myth that I've missed about Thai food at home and abroad - or there isn't. I have to guess now that there isn't. The thing that's curious is why you'd make it up. Weird. .

It's not generally filthy. It's brown from the topsoil, not dirty. Buy a bottle of water, you're drinking that water, EXACTLY that water. NOW, right today, the flooded areas in Bangkok are generally beyond filthy. That's because floods are stagnant, they sit there for days and days. And many of the klongs are filthy because they're pumping the floods into the klongs. The river is still amazingly un-filthy, although.... heh. .

It's not. And yes, you were lucky to buy when prices were low. There is now going to be a big shortage of hard drives for the likes of you and me. Companies that make hard drives are going to scramble to supply OEMs, and the loser is the smaller shops and the individual buyers. The problem with your wording: if everything is profiteering, then nothing is profiteering. If you equate charging more for hard drives in England and New England with charging more for rice to feed stranded and hungry people in the centre of the floods, then there is simply no such thing as profiteering on anything, anywhere. According to that ALL capitalism is profiteering. There's no more use for the word "profiteering". .

Don Muang is an airbase. Part of it is allowed for civilian operations. The reason for an alternate is safety. No country can afford to have a standby airport with all facilities to handle the regular amount of flights. In 2008, Utapao was used to take people out of the country, not as a substitute for regular airport operations. If events become really bad in any place, then airport operations are shut down, not shifted wholesale to some (mythical) standby airport. Utapao is an EXCELLENT alternate airport. It was an alternate for the space shuttle. .

Europeans have generally higher morals and ethics than anyone else. heh. haha. BWOOOhahahahaha, the continent whose leaders savaged the world, led a dozen campaigns of genocide, covered the breasts of the globe, SPECIFICALLY chose trade and money over morality, murdered millions, then at home launched the most savage pair of wars in the history of the universe... are generally more moral and ethical than all other humans. Don't make me laugh, my lips are chapped. PEOPLE are ethical and moral. Or of course they are not. The idea that a nation, let alone a violent, murderous continent of nations is MORE moral is really funny. Stop it! .

The floods are why people cancel their trip to Thailand, which is why planes are half full which is why THAI flies half as many flights. What else would you blame? .

Yes. In fact, "of course". Of those, the Muslim thing is especially ridiculous. Muslims are about as homogonised and similar as ... er, Christians. There is almost nothing you can use to stereotype Muslims. You come in contact with them every day in Pattaya and you don't even know it. East Indians: Do you mean Bengalis? Iroquois? .

So Socal doesn't know the difference between a beach and water. But you should. So should pretty well everyone. .