The Residence Garden

[Samsonite 181]

Thanks for the detailed response. Greatly appreciated.

The Plumeria sounds good, but if it involves riding a motorbike in Pattaya, count me out.

I may be many things, but suicidal I'm not.

Edited November 21, 2007 by Scalawag

[jackcorbett 2]

I entirely agree with you about just how dangerous driving a motorbike here is. The classic occurred yesterday when one of my pals and I were walking on the sidewalk to Tuk Com and a Thai woman came up behind us on her motorbike and tooted her horn for use to get out of the way. Now just imagine someone driving on the same streets as you are who's this brain dead And unfortunately tremendous numbers of these people have nothing going on upstairs and no one's (the police for instance) reining them in. That's why when I drive my bike I'm preoccupied with self preservation and limiting my risk which I consider to be nearly unacceptable. Fortunately for you there are a huge number of choices that do not require you to risk becoming mash potatoes and gravy simply because too many Thai drivers need to be put into reeducation camps.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

And there's not much around it for decent restaurants that are really close by

 

Two of the best restaurants in Pattaya (Manhattans and Mata Hari) are less than five minutes from the RG. The hotel itself has a decent restaurant as does Mr Mac's next door and the mini-golf place opposite.

 

I would agree though that at certain times (between 6 and 8 pm in high season) it is quicker to get a moto-sai into town than sit on a stationary baht-bus for 20 minutes.

 

The road construction will go on for some considerable time yet. The pipe laying/road widening has only got as far as Soi 14/15 going up Thappraya Road and once that is complete the new road will still have to be built.

[Sailfast 503]

Tell you what guys, RG has one of the worse locations in all Pattaya. It's a real bottle neck for traffic in this area, and particularly at certain times it can take you 15 minutes just to get from RG to South Pattaya Road in a baht taxi or car. Of course if you have a motorbike you can slice and dice through the traffic of piled up cars. And it's pretty tough even crossing the street in front of RG. And there's not much around it for decent restaurants that are really close by. And the price at 1400 baht...well, fine.....those are pretty high. Certainly no bargain. YOu can stay at Plumeria managed apartments here at Wongamat Beach and these go for 1800 baht a night. But say you stay for just two weeks. The monthly rate is 21,000 baht (16,000 if you stay for three months or more). Do the math. That's 1500 baht a night and you are really staying at a very quiet, first class place with a great swimming pool. Stay three weeks and your price goes down to 1000 baht a night. Now this is for superior accommodations. Now you might not hear the traffic in your room at RG but with the swimming pool in front of the place, I'll bet you are going to be hearing it loud and clear and the road construction as you go through the motions of thinking you are relaxing at pool side. But if you really look around you can find some really good deals with a lot quicker access to most places than this "road blocked" establishment.

 

 

 

You have some valid points. One you missed is that the beds could be better for the baht at the RG.

 

This will be my 6th trip to LOS and I thought about changing hotels. Not because I'm not happy w/ the RG, just for a change of scenery. In the end, I could not find a one bedroom suite, full service hotel for a 10 day stay at a better deal.

 

I made a list of why I like the R.G. and keep going back.

 

The service is really great and the staff is personable and fun.

 

Traffic can sometimes be a pain at times going towars walking street, but not in the evening (daytime it's a nice walk anyway)

 

Going the other way there are some reallly good restaurants, and no traffic.

 

The food at the R.G. is outstanding.

 

In room safe.

 

Two TV's (one in the bedroom, one in the living room)

 

Kitchenette

 

The laundry accross the street is really good and there is now a minimart there as well.

 

I will say that I think it's tough to get a true one bedroom suite for 1400 baht during the high season.

 

If the traffic noise is a bother, there is another pool in back and that one is often empty.

 

Sometimes it seems like every guy at breakfast is a board member (with a date)

 

Few families to worry about feeling uncomfortable with your "date(s)".

 

NO DEPOSIT for a reservation.

 

They will clean your room when YOU are ready!

 

 

 

I'm starting to sound like an add so I'll stop now

 

 

 

Ib, am I getting commission for this???????????????????????

[jackcorbett 2]

Sailfast----I have never tried the beds at RG, and of course that is a major point.

 

 

The one great thing about Pattaya is that more than any other place I know of it's got so many choices. You mentioned a good laundry next to RG. We have two laundries within 100 yards of me near my condo here at Wongamat Beach. We have a Family Mart just one block up the street. Heading the other direction a little more than a block, call it a block and a half is a new Family Mart. During the last few months, a Thai lady, started a shop directly below my condo on the bottom floor of my condo building with competitive prices to Family Mart's. I can literally lower a bucket on a rope to the woman with money inside and have her fill the bucket up with beer which I can then pull up to my balcony. As if this is not enough, construction is now about half way finished on a Seven Eleven which is directly across the street from the first Family Mart I mentioned. There is one massage place I often go to now across the street from this Family Mart, but across the street from this same Family Mart in another direction are two more massage places. In the opposite direction one block away is a fourth massage establishment and if I were to walk back to the Family Mart and go down the street one quarter of a mile there is a fifth massage establishment, this one upscale but at the same price level and larger than all the rest. And the same goes for places to stay. There is so much to choose from.

 

Been to Chiang Mai recently and just got back from Bangkok twice in the past week where I was shopping for a new laptop. Compared to Pattaya neither place even comes close at having so many laundries, massage places, Convenience Stores, restaurants and Bars, ATMS and just about everything just about everywhere you look so close to hand. So my point is there are so so many other choices if one just takes the time to check them out. The 1400 baht charged by Residence Garden is way over what many savvy guys I know who visit here time and time again, pay. For them it's over the market. As far as restaurants such as Mata Hari, I've taken a look at the place in flyers, on the web, etc and I felt that although it is no doubt a fine restaurant its prices are U.S. prices. So for Pattaya these are tourist prices. We are in Pattaya, not the U.S. When one is living just down the street from restaurants I sure as hell wouldn't want to be paying U.S. prices for breakfast, lunch and dinner everytime I'm stepping outside my door that I'm hungry and unwilling to go very far just for a quick bite.

 

And once again, as far as location and I've already mentioned that RG has an atrocious location, one gets the true meaning of how bad it really is when you are staying at a Central location on 2nd Road, say not far from Big C, and you have a pal who's meeting you who's staying at RG and it takes him half an hour to get to the place you are meeting him because he's tied up in traffic on a baht bus. Or you are in a car rented by another friend who's staying at RG and here you are in that car tied up in traffic near Residence Garden for fifteen or twenty minutes driving just one or two kilometers. This area is the number one chokepoint I know of for traffic in the entire Pattaya area.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

And once again, as far as location and I've already mentioned that RG has an atrocious location, one gets the true meaning of how bad it really is when you are staying at a Central location on 2nd Road, say not far from Big C, and you have a pal who's meeting you who's staying at RG and it takes him half an hour to get to the place you are meeting him because he's tied up in traffic on a baht bus.

 

 

It depends on where you are meeting the guy. If you are meeting on Walking Street at, say 7 p.m. it can take 15 mins to get from the Royal Garden to Walking Street on a baht bus. That's after you've risked life and limb to cross 2nd Road and hiked your way down to Beach Road to get a Baht bus going in the right direction. The guy from RG would probably be on his third drink by the time you get there.

Edited November 22, 2007 by CheshireTom

[jackcorbett 2]

Valid point, Tom. And if the guy is married to Walking Street it might be an inconvenience to stay North of Walking Street any distance, but this shoe doesn't really fit most guys as there are many other places to go than just Walking Street, Sois 6, 7, and 8 being among them, Big C, Carre Four, Best Supermarket, Soi

Buckets and Soi Diana, the much cheaper and better German restaurants in the Naklua area and so on. RG plugs you into Walking Street. But that's about it. For most people the location really sucks and as I've mentioned 1400 baht a night is pretty over the top compared to other places one might stay at.

 

Here, check this one out. The Sonkiet Buri Resort Sonkiet Buri Resort on Ao Nang Beach in Krabi, just 400 meters from the ocean with a much better beach than anything in Pattaya. And I paid just 1350 baht during the low season. But do check my article and pictures out thoroughly and you will see what I mean. Here you get a fruit tray brought to your room every day, the spectacular grounds are all lit up at night, the balconies are huge, and the ambience is out of this world. There are more expensive places at Krabi--the Krabi Resort comes to mind, but none better and none even more sensational. This is what I'm talking about. If you are going to be paying 1400 baht a night this is what you should expect. This isn't the U.S., it's Thailand, so if you are going to be staying in Thailand you are going to get some fantastic deals if you really your homework. And yeah, yeah, yeah, Krabi isn't Pattaya and it's unfair to compare apples to oranges and blah blah blah, but believe me, Pattaya's got some great deals going too.

[Sailfast 503]

Valid points from everyone. So if the RG is not such a good deal then what suggestions do you guys have for:

 

A better location

 

one bedroom suite w/ kitchenette

 

two tellies, one in each room

 

pool(s)

 

good food/bar

 

great staff

 

room service

 

daily maid

 

in room safe

 

unlimited hot water w/ good pressure

 

elevator

 

For less than 1400 baht

 

I'm not saying it's not out there, I just can't find it.

 

And can someone tell me why this comes out double spaced????? I'm not typing that way

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Jack,

 

The RG doesn't plug you into Walking St any more than Skytop plugs you into Soi 6 or the Sabais plug you into Soi 2/3. Third Road is only a few metres down the hill from the RG and takes you quickly into just about any part of central Pattaya in minutes. Head in the other direction and you have Jomtien and Pratamnak area at your fingertips.

 

I'll concede that there may be better German restaurants in Naklua but if that was top of my holiday wish list I'd be heading to Nuremburg, not Pattaya. As for the place in Krabi; it has as much relevance to what is being discussed as me saying that you can get a 3 bed house in Songkhla or Satun for 10k a month..

 

For most people the location really sucks and as I've mentioned 1400 baht a night is pretty over the top compared to other places one might stay at.

 

 

That said, if you can recommend somewhere in Pattaya where you will get a 1 bed apartment for 1,400 Baht in high-season with comparable facilities to the RG then I'm sure there are loads of boardies who'd love to hear about it. Don't get me wrong; I'm not a big fan of the RG but for different reasons (small bedroom and bed, noisy corridors) but for many guys it offers great value for money.

Edited November 22, 2007 by CheshireTom

[jackcorbett 2]

Here's a place that might be worth checking out that is priced under the RG's price point for about 1400 baht compared to RG's high season rate of 1600 baht. I've looked over the facilities for a friend. Naklua Hotel

 

 

It's in Naklua smack right on Naklua Road so it's right on the 10 baht taxi line. Restaurants galore in this area. The swimming pool is on the top floor and it affords an excellent view of the area. They just finished this place a few months ago so it's brand spanking new. From here Walking Street's about ten to fifteen minutes away by baht taxi on the average, Soi Six in ten minutes or less. Restaurants in this entire area are both cheap and good. I haven't stayed here but the swimming pool area and other accommodations appear first rate.

 

But this pricing is on the Internet through an intermediary. I talked to an American who has his real estate office downstairs in my condo building. He stated he knew of places in Central Pattaya he considered roughly equal to or a bit better even than Residence Garden for around 1000 baht. Mike sells condos in a number of locations and rents them out as well but he's now branching out into even newer markets such as hotel accommodations. It will be interesting to see if he can get an even better price for the place I linked to above as well as some of the other places he has at his fingertips. I also recall a place just one hundred meters from Naklua Road (meaning it's right off the baht bus route) that had a nice swimming pool and facilities in general that my girlfriend and I looked at for a friend, but I can't remember what the rate was except it was a lot less than RG's.

 

Getting back to Mike.....Depends what a person wants. Want to rent a place near the beach for 15,000 baht a month or so......I think he can get it done. That's 1000 baht a night if you only stayed fifteen days but it might not have the access of Naklua Road the first place has. Stay longer and such a place becomes even more attractive.

Edited November 22, 2007 by jackcorbett

[capdagde 1,954]

Hi Jack (no I mean Hello Jack)

 

Would be interested in a 1-bed suite (two different beds or king-size) at around 1K per night for three weeks in May-June 2008 if your mate Mike is interested in searching something out. I'm coming with the wife and we'll be chasing girls so might have 4 people total overnighting at times. This based on your 15K per month quote. No joiner fees obviously!

 

You can PM me his details if you like....

 

Andy Cap

[valentinoxxx 4]

Two TVs, two balconies and under 1k per day at the long stay rate(at least a month). Better location too.

 

There is no doubt that RG is good value for short stays.

[jackcorbett 2]

Hi Jack (no I mean Hello Jack)

 

Would be interested in a 1-bed suite (two different beds or king-size) at around 1K per night for three weeks in May-June 2008 if your mate Mike is interested in searching something out. I'm coming with the wife and we'll be chasing girls so might have 4 people total overnighting at times. This based on your 15K per month quote. No joiner fees obviously!

 

You can PM me his details if you like....

 

Andy Cap

 

I'll get back to Mike a.s.a.p. about this Andy. By the way, I have a lot of respect for Mike as every time I go downstairs from my condo I have to go by his office to get out to the street. Most of the time Mike's got his head into his laptop searching things out on the Internet. And whereas I'm part of a three person committee representing all the owners of my building here at Wongamat, Mike is on a similar owner's committee of another condo community nearby. He's also got three people working under him, so considering how hard he personally works with the help he's got I imagine he's really got a large number of alternatives at his fingertips from selling a man an expensive beach front condo to arranging affordable rentals for several weeks to a month to long term rentals of very spacious condos at higher price levels.

[jackcorbett 2]

Two TVs, two balconies and under 1k per day at the long stay rate(at least a month). Better location too.

 

There is no doubt that RG is good value for short stays.

 

 

I disagree with you. The place you linked to does not have a "better location" than RG, it has a "Far superior location as in ten times better location. I went out drinking last night with a few of my neighbors and this includes my neighbor from Birmingham. Now Gus is on his motorbike every day, driving it typically from Wongamat Beach here in Naklua all the way down to South Pattaya Road to the very vicinity the place you just linked to is located. Gus's live in gf managed a bar-restaurant just East of the market on Soi Bukeow so if anyone's got a real handle on traffic conditions throughout the Pattaya area, Gus is the man. Last night we discussed RG together and Gus commented that it's got an absolutely wretched location, but other than that there is nothing really wrong with the hotel itself, the staff, management or the rooms.

 

Now I haven't been to this particular location you linked to, but first off it's substantially less expensive than the RG. Secondly let's speak of location. It's just up the street from Tukcom which is the best place to buy computers and computer equipment in Pattaya and it's quite close to the Friendship supermarket where I will often park my bike. YOu have quick and easy access to Third Road which means you can very quickly get up Third Road to many excellent restaurants and other spots. YOu can take Third Road straight up to Central Pattaya Road, turn left on it and go down to Carre Four and many other places. You can no doubt easily walk to Soi Bukeow from this location and if you can't, just take a baht bus and from there you can easily amble up this street to many small shots, a number of bars and even several go go bars near Soi Diana.

 

It is no fault of Residence Garden that it has one of the most miserable locations in Pattaya, at least for now. In fact, my girlfriend just commented that for many guys this would not be important and that for many feeling isolated is a good thing. "It's up to the individual", she said, "what's really important" Unfortunately this is what one has to deal with while staying here. For one thing there's a huge amount of traffic going from Pattaya to Jomtien and RG is right on the main route. Now say you wanted to go from Central Pattaya up to Naklua for instance. Say you want to go to Pattaya Bangkok Hospital. You can go up 2nd road and take that route and ultimately head East to the Hospital once you've gotten up a ways from Dolphin Circle. Or you can go straight up 3rd road where the traffic pretty much sails along. And you can also head straight North up Sukamvit right up to the hospital. But if you are going from Jomtien to Central Pattaya and you want to go by Residence Garden ultimately traffic must funnel down to very few lanes of traffic. Then you pass RG and you will soon come to a crossroads that angles to the right. You and the rest of the traffic going with you will have to merge onto this street and this street eventually becomes 2nd road where there is a light at South Pattaya Road. Whether you are heading to Jomtien from Pattaya or going from Jomtien to Pattaya, either way, Residence Garden is smack dab in the middle of this huge traffic bottleneck. And to top if off there's now a lot of road construction going on right here. Hopefully all of this will one day change.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Jack,

 

Why do you criticise the location of the RG on one hand and then praise the location of the other place ......

 

 

YOu have quick and easy access to Third Road which means you can very quickly get up Third Road to many excellent restaurants and other spots. YOu can take Third Road straight up to Central Pattaya Road, turn left on it and go down to Carre Four and many other places.

 

Or you can go straight up 3rd road where the traffic pretty much sails along. And you can also head straight North up Sukamvit right up to the hospital.

 

The RG is located less than 100 metres from 3rd Road so surely all the positives you mention would equally apply to the RG.

 

But if you are going from Jomtien to Central Pattaya and you want to go by Residence Garden ultimately traffic must funnel down to very few lanes of traffic. Then you pass RG and you will soon come to a crossroads that angles to the right.

 

The crossroads that angles to the right is 3rd Road ......... with all the benefits that you have already mentioned.

Edited November 23, 2007 by CheshireTom

[Sailfast 503]

Two TVs, two balconies and under 1k per day at the long stay rate(at least a month). Better location too.

 

There is no doubt that RG is good value for short stays.

I disagree with you. The place you linked to does not have a "better location" than RG, it has a "Far superior location as in ten times better location. I went out drinking last night with a few of my neighbors and this includes my neighbor from Birmingham. Now Gus is on his motorbike every day, driving it typically from Wongamat Beach here in Naklua all the way down to South Pattaya Road to the very vicinity the place you just linked to is located. Gus's live in gf managed a bar-restaurant just East of the market on Soi Bukeow so if anyone's got a real handle on traffic conditions throughout the Pattaya area, Gus is the man. Last night we discussed RG together and Gus commented that it's got an absolutely wretched location, but other than that there is nothing really wrong with the hotel itself, the staff, management or the rooms.

 

Now I haven't been to this particular location you linked to, but first off it's substantially less expensive than the RG. Secondly let's speak of location. It's just up the street from Tukcom which is the best place to buy computers and computer equipment in Pattaya and it's quite close to the Friendship supermarket where I will often park my bike. YOu have quick and easy access to Third Road which means you can very quickly get up Third Road to many excellent restaurants and other spots. YOu can take Third Road straight up to Central Pattaya Road, turn left on it and go down to Carre Four and many other places. You can no doubt easily walk to Soi Bukeow from this location and if you can't, just take a baht bus and from there you can easily amble up this street to many small shots, a number of bars and even several go go bars near Soi Diana.

 

It is no fault of Residence Garden that it has one of the most miserable locations in Pattaya, at least for now. In fact, my girlfriend just commented that for many guys this would not be important and that for many feeling isolated is a good thing. "It's up to the individual", she said, "what's really important" Unfortunately this is what one has to deal with while staying here. For one thing there's a huge amount of traffic going from Pattaya to Jomtien and RG is right on the main route. Now say you wanted to go from Central Pattaya up to Naklua for instance. Say you want to go to Pattaya Bangkok Hospital. You can go up 2nd road and take that route and ultimately head East to the Hospital once you've gotten up a ways from Dolphin Circle. Or you can go straight up 3rd road where the traffic pretty much sails along. And you can also head straight North up Sukamvit right up to the hospital. But if you are going from Jomtien to Central Pattaya and you want to go by Residence Garden ultimately traffic must funnel down to very few lanes of traffic. Then you pass RG and you will soon come to a crossroads that angles to the right. You and the rest of the traffic going with you will have to merge onto this street and this street eventually becomes 2nd road where there is a light at South Pattaya Road. Whether you are heading to Jomtien from Pattaya or going from Jomtien to Pattaya, either way, Residence Garden is smack dab in the middle of this huge traffic bottleneck. And to top if off there's now a lot of road construction going on right here. Hopefully all of this will one day change.

 

 

 

I can't argue w/ the traffic. However, lets compare daily rates. Two TV's and two balconies will run you (depending on time of year) 2150 - 2450 baht per night for the "City Suite". The deluxe room that is more comperable to the RG will run you 1250 - 1550 baht per night, including breakfast, so lets say they are very comperable, or slightly cheaper in the off season.

 

Other rooms are less, but it's a simple hotel room. Nothing wrong w/ that, but lets complare apples to apples.

 

Long term, the rates are better, but you have to consider water, electric and they only change your sheets twice a week.

 

The RG, if I'm not mistaken has a long term rate as well.

 

I do like the location of the Daimond City and will definately check it out. Thanks for that!

[jackcorbett 2]

Jack,

 

Why do you criticise the location of the RG on one hand and then praise the location of the other place ......

 

 

 

 

The RG is located less than 100 metres from 3rd Road so surely all the positives you mention would equally apply to the RG.

 

 

 

The crossroads that angles to the right is 3rd Road ......... with all the benefits that you have already mentioned.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No Tom. You are dead wrong, so while you try to nitpick me to death let me map point you (and everyone else tuning in) to the cartographic route to true enlightenment.

 

First, the main choke point I am refering to is just past where you would turn right onto 3rd road. This is the road that becomes 2nd road where you would turn right after the overpass at 3rd road. The roads coming together here are quite narrow and there is no light. This is what I call the stand still zone because much of the time if you are in a car or baht taxi you will stand still as vehicles vie for who gets to go first at this intersection. So the traffic backs up quite a ways in both directions.

 

You can avoid this choke point by turning right at Third Road. Even so there still is a distance where the traffic is nearly standing still. But now you have a great deal of distance contending with the traffic on 3rd Road before you get even with Diamond D. You can of course then cut back to the West over to 2nd Road and from there head up to Sois 7, 8, or Six or wherever. And be my guest if you are a masochist. But even before that, you have all that extra distance on Third Road before you draw up even with Diamond D, and guess what, a lot of people have the same idea as you, that is of avoiding that choke point I pointed out. So there traffic is often moving very slowly. Now--when you get to South Pattaya Road and continue North on 3rd Road the traffic lightens up considerably.

 

As you can see on this map, there is basically one direct route to Jomtien and here you are at RG smack in the middle of it. This adds considerably to the congestion in this entire area.

 

This map shows the Residence Garden is like an army barracks stuck out in nowhere land whereas Diamond D puts you in a much more Central location that is like being placed in the center of the city compared to being off in a suburb where one is constantly facing rush hour traffic for considerable lengths of time. Note the red line I've painted in that represents Soi Bukoew. It's quite close to Diamond D. And there's two markets where it meets South Pattaya Road, there's Tuk Com. Friendship supermarket is quite close. Third Road is right there and it's the fast lane to a great deal of the city, and to Naklua. Sukamvit is close at hand. You can easily walk to 2nd Road (or take the baht bus) and continue on by baht bus to Royal Garden Plaza, the new shopping center just beyond it, up to Sois 7 and 8, Soi Six a little further on.

 

There is simply no comparison. From the Diamond D location you can so easily and quickly fan out into all directions. But do keep in mind one thing. I'm not the guy who brought up Diamond D in the first place. And I've never even seen the place. But Diamond D does point out one thing, and that's what I've been saying all along. That is it's quite easy to beat RG's location by a magnitude of about ten to one if easy and quick access is a number one priority. If you want to limit yourself to Walking Street, well then, that's a different story, or if you want to be near Jomtien and don't care much for seeing much of Pattaya, that's another thing too. But then again, you might just as well off stay in Jomtien in the first place.

[Eneukman 1]

The road construction will go on for some considerable time yet. The pipe laying/road widening has only got as far as Soi 14/15 going up Thappraya Road and once that is complete the new road will still have to be built.

 

It's some time since I last saw evidence of any work actually being done on Thappraya Road. Any idea as to when the work will be finished?

 

At the present rate of progress, I would think the roadworks between Bangkok and Pattaya will be finished first.

 

Alan

[valentinoxxx 4]

Of course I did not mention Diamond City in order to denigrate RG.

 

Residence Garden is still decent value for short term stays. Especially because some BMs may prefer apartment living, as opposed to just a hotel room.

 

My post was only to illustrate an alternative that may also be convenient for some BMs.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Jack,

 

The choke point you mention is only an issue heading towards the Walking Street area ....... to get anywhere else in town you head along 3 rd Road with all the benefis you enthused about. Coming from Naklua to South Pattaya on the Baht bus route during peak hours? Easy, you simply jump out around the Royal Garden and walk the rest or else like the guys from the RG you'll just be sat in a stationary baht bus.

 

Traffic on the baht bus route is an issue in Pattaya no matter where your hotel is. Just try and get to South Pattaya from Naklua tomorrow night (24th) and then tell me different.

Edited November 23, 2007 by CheshireTom

[jackcorbett 2]

Tom...Already been thinking about tomorrow night. I think getting to the pier area for this one is going to be faster managed by walking than by baht bus from just about anywhere. Of course tomorrow night is atypical to say the least. Hmmm.....What do you think of traveling by boat?

[valentinoxxx 4]

Is the a Baht Bus route that diverts from the RG location up Third Road?

 

It is fair to say that Diamond City is in a better location that RG, simply because of it's proximity to multiple Baht Bus routes and shopping facilities.

 

Saying that, there was a time when I thought that Diamond City was a bit out of the way, as I was used to beachfront locations. :)

 

But I can see that the location would be safe and very convenient for many BMs.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Tom...Already been thinking about tomorrow night. I think getting to the pier area for this one is going to be faster managed by walking than by baht bus from just about anywhere. Of course tomorrow night is atypical to say the least. Hmmm.....What do you think of traveling by boat?

 

You could always just nip up to Bang Saen. I understand they will be putting on a good show up there.

[jackcorbett 2]

Yep......as far as being Central to most locations the beach is not the best as you can see from the map, which tells it all. Most of the guys who live here at Wongamat Residence (see map...in Naklua near the ocean on Soi 16) either have a car or motorbike or both. The motorbike however for the man who lives here full time, puts the entire area within easy reach so the fact that this area of Naklua might seem to be out of the way of much of Central Pattaya becomes irrelevant.

[Samsonite 181]

Jack C.,

You have said so far that the,

 

"...the Residence Garden is like an army barracks..."

 

"...RG has one of the worse locations in all Pattaya..."

 

"...the crappiest location I know of in the area..."

 

"..that RG has an atrocious location..."

 

"...has one of the most miserable locations..."

 

"...that it's got an absolutely wretched location..."

 

and you have a assumed that,

 

"...For most people the location really sucks..."

 

So, we have, "worse, crappiest, atrocious, miserable, wretched," and, finally, "sucks"

 

I don't know you and in the past you have always seemed to be a rational, likeable guy, but when I see such a barrage of negative adjectives use to to describe some as simple as a hotel location the alarm bells go off and I have to wonder if you don't have a personal reason for repeatedly slamming The Residence Garden?

 

I'm not crazy about the location myself, but I do think it is the best bang for the buck I've seen in a hotel in Pattaya to date. Put it on the corner of Beach Road and Soi 13 and it would be perfect.

Edited November 23, 2007 by Scalawag