PC gone completely crazy

[poweroper 0]

A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its students' union toilets were "de-gendered".

 

Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the "gents" have become "toilets with urinals".

 

The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.

 

A university newspaper criticised the move but the student union said it was needed to tackle transphobia.

 

There are no figures on the number of transsexual and transgender students believed to be among the university's population of more than 35,000 students.

 

The students' union welfare office declined to reveal the number of complaints, but said it was an important issue.

 

 

A student newspaper editorial questioned the wisdom of the move

 

Women's officer Jennie Killip told the BBC: "If you were born female, still present quite feminine, but define as a man you should be able to go into the men's toilets - if that's how you define.

 

"You don't necessarily have had to have gender reassignment surgery, but you could just define yourself as a man, feel very masculine in yourself, feel that in fact being a woman is not who you are."

 

Asked about the change, some female students questioned the move.

 

One said: "Girls might not want to use the same toilets as boys, so then you just end up with people complaining about that - so you can't really win.

 

Another told the BBC: "I personally wouldn't want to be in the same toilet as a man."

 

The move prompted an editorial in campus newspaper Student Direct last week which criticised the new arrangements.

 

Newspaper spokeswoman Susannah Birkwood said: "The toilets have been provided for men who don't self identify as men and women who don't think of themselves as women.

 

"Whether or not this is political correctness gone mad.. because it certainly seems that way to some members of our student community."

 

Union officials have rejected the criticism and permanent signs for its first gender neutral toilets are being made.

 

Almost 60 people, including Ms Killip, have signed a letter to the student newspaper criticising the editorial.

[MM 6,562]

My daughter went to the University of California at Santa Cruz (UCSC) back in late 90's. She stayed in co-ed dormitories where the toilet stalls were gender-free. Being a shy girl who likes her moments of peace, she said she lost a lot of sleep because she would wait until 4am to do her business without some grunting male sitting in the next stall.

My point is, it's been going on quite a while now. In fact, I've noticed a lot of gogos are doing the same thing lately .

[Eneukman 1]

In Amsterdam a number of years ago, women were coming in and using the cubicles in the gents' toilets because the queues in their own were so long!.

 

Alan

[Bruce Mangosteen 418]

I'm a heterosexual man born male-gendered who defines as a "perve", so I would use the "toilet without urinals" for long periods of time, and always have my trusty periscope handy.

[ronrat 59]

I would have thought this would have been more an issue in Pattaya than Manchester.

Seen and heard of a lot of girls who use the mens during the horse racing carnivals because they can't wait. Apparently 7 or 8 glasses of champagne will do that to you.

[nidnoyham 30]

PC ! The rampant wolf in sheeps clothing that is running unchecked in western society.

 

The political system that does excactly the opposite to what it says on the tin. It is almost Marxist in principle.

 

Despite professing to bring equality and rights to society, the oposit is the case, it stifles and restricts.

It does its best, to remove two of the cornerstones of our way of life; Those of choice and free speach.

 

Now, those women at the University have no choice about who they share a toilet with.

 

The Catholic Adoption Sertvice, has no choice on the subject of Gay parents adopting their charges.

 

The Queen, has no choice, but to stock "Time Out, Gay and Lesbian London' in her bookshops in The Tower of London, Hampton Court Palace, The Banqueting House and Kew Palace. Peter Tatchell, Gay rights activist, called on the Queen to make it clear that discrimintion was unacceptable. So what, if you don't think there will be a demand for it. Just becuse you did a survey among your clientel, to stock the books they want, is irrelevant.

 

An ex workmate of mine, wanted to buy a B&B in the West Country. As a Christian, he would not choose to rent rooms to same sex couples. He would not have that choice, so he didn't fulfill his ambition.

 

To speak out in protest to PC, makes you an 'Ist' or a 'Phobic'. An evil minded human with no compasion for your fellow man. The fact you are being denied basic rights too, is not an issue. They will not reason with you, that is not the way PC works.

 

" The sleep of reason brings forth monsters " I know I have used that quote before, but it sums up PC, quite nicely for me.

 

 

Well that's my 'Phobic' bit. I won't go into any of the ' ism's' .

[js007 795]

It's not a new phenomena. Back when I was in college in the late 1960s and early 70s, my school had a sauna bath and a steam bath in the men's locker room. The girls had no such thing. The next thing you know, some of the feminist girls decided to start using the men's facilities. I'll never forget, sitting there in the sauna, when some girls walked in and plopped themselves down on the benches. After a few months, the university decided they'd better build the girls a sauna of their own.

 

As for Pattaya? Several of the go go bars have co-ed bathrooms.

At first it seemed sort of weird to me, but after a while I didn't care one way or the other.

 

j

[js007 795]

It's not a new phenomena. Back when I was in college in the late 1960s and early 70s, my school had a sauna bath and a steam bath in the men's locker room. The girls had no such thing. The next thing you know, some of the feminist girls decided to start using the men's facilities. I'll never forget, sitting there in the sauna, when some girls walked in and plopped themselves down on the benches. After a few months, the university decided they'd better build the girls a sauna of their own.

 

As for Pattaya? Several of the go go bars have co-ed bathrooms.

At first it seemed sort of weird to me, but after a while I didn't care one way or the other.

 

j