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Thai probably won't be buying -400's from UA after all.Better deals to be had elsewhere. John

Cathay Pacific Offers Bangkok for August Deal of the Month Monday August 4, 9:02 am ET LOS ANGELES, Aug. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Cathay Pacific's August Deal of the Month offers remarkably affordable and convenient travel to exotic and fascinating Bangkok. Priced from just USD $549.00 (not including taxes and fees ranging from USD$60.90 - USD$83.00 per person), the current Deal of the Month offers roundtrip Economy Class travel to Bangkok (with free Hong Kong stopovers in both directions, applicable to additional departure taxes) on sale from August 1, 2003 to August 29, 2003 11:59p.m. Eastern time (or until deemed sold out). Travelers will experience the comfort of Cathay Pacific's world-renowned service and discover first hand why the airline is a recipient of numerous industry awards including "Airline of the Year" in Skytrax's 2003 survey. Travel must take place between September 1, 2003 and November 30, 2003, inclusive. Travel must originate at a Cathay Pacific gateway city in the USA (Los Angeles, San Francisco or New York JFK) and tickets must be purchased online at: www.cathay-usa.com/dotm where additional information is available. Other restrictions apply. Additionally, Cathay Pacific has partnered with Shangri-La Hotels and Regal Hotels International to offer exclusively discounted hotel rates in Bangkok and Hong Kong, respectively. Cathay Pacific's Deal of the Month fare to Bangkok is an invitation to visit this legendary city at extraordinarily low prices during the fall period. As may be expected, seats will go quickly and early online purchase is recommended. Such low fares do not earn frequent flyer mileage credit, are non-refundable and are subject to change and cancellation fees, among other restrictions. From the U.S., Cathay Pacific offers the only double daily non-stop 747-400 and A340-600 service from Los Angeles to Hong Kong (temporarily reduced to one daily non-stop until further notice), daily non-stop 747-400 service from San Francisco to Hong Kong, daily direct 747-400 service from New York to Hong Kong and daily non-stop 747-400 service from New York to Vancouver onboard one of the youngest aircraft fleets in the world. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: Cathay Pacific Airways John

One Night in Bangkok Won't Make Your Wallet Humble, With These Cathay Pacific Deals To Thailand and More Destinations: Bangkok, Singapore, Hong Kong, Manila Provider: Cathay Pacific Airways Activities: Adventure, Outdoor, Photography Dates: Purchase by June 30; travel July 1-August 31 Author: Sascha Segan June 4, 2003 -- Bangkok. Oriental setting. But the city don't know what the city is getting. The crème de la crème of airfares ... okay, okay. Maybe you won't get your own theme song (www.lyrics.jp/lyrics/H003500010001.asp) when you fly on Cathay Pacific's awesome $599 roundtrip fare from LA, San Francisco or New York to Bangkok, but you'll certainly save enough money to buy an MP3 player for the trip. Struggling to recover from the damage SARS did to Hong Kong's economy, local airline Cathay Pacific is offering special deals to Bangkok, Hong Kong, Manila and Singapore. The Bangkok deal is their best -- $599 from California is a good fare, but from New York it's just plain terrific. (The Go-Today Bangkok package we described on Monday is a better deal if you're traveling as a couple and want to stay five days. But if you're traveling alone, or want to define your own trip, buy from Cathay.) To get to Bangkok cheaply, buy your tickets before June 30 for departures between July 1 and August 31. There's no minimum stay and no advance purchase requirement, but there's a 30-day maximum stay. Buy online at www.cathay-usa.com/dotm/dotm.asp. Cathay Pacific is running a Bangkok hotel deal, too, but their promotional rate at the highly-recommended Shangri-La is no lower than the $125 we found on the Shangri-La's own Web site. (For our review of the Shangri-La, click here: www.frommers.com/destinations/moreaccom.cfm?h_id=1706.) We found much lower hotel rates for classy digs on BiddingForTravel's guide to Priceline. While the results of past Priceline bids can never be followed exactly, BfT reveals a pattern of absolutely great deals for Bangkok hotels. We'd suggest turning to Priceline if you're looking for 4 or 5 accommodation in Bangkok. Bang a Gong in Hong Kong, or Thrill 'Em in Manila Cathay's Bangkok fare comes with a free stopover in Hong Kong. But if you'd like to celebrate Hong Kong's de-SARS-ization by making that city your destination, Cathay is offering excellent fares to Hong Kong and two other destinations through Orbitz. As with Bangkok, check these fares against the packages we announced on Monday to find the right deal for you. Fares from New York, LA and San Francisco are: To Hong Kong -- $585 To Singapore -- $630 To Manila -- $630 For these fares, you need to depart by June 30, return by August 31 and stay at least three days. There's no advance purchase requirement and no expiration date on this sale, which means it may disappear at any time. Buy via Orbitz at www.orbitz.com/App/GetDealsDetailsContent?deal_id=cx_asia_053003&source=hp&type=l&cache=1054647555162&requestId=39.

Cathay Pacific Airways' All Asia Pass on Sale for USD$699 Tuesday June 3, 4:32 pm ET LOS ANGELES, June 3 /PRNewswire/ -- In an unprecedented move, Cathay Pacific Airways puts its already low priced All Asia Pass on sale. For one extraordinary low price, travelers can experience magnificent Hong Kong, tropical Bali, tradition-rich Bangkok, ultra-modern Singapore, fascinating Malaysia -- and many other exciting destinations. The All Asia Pass sale offers Economy Class travel to Hong Kong and any or all of 17 other Cathay Pacific cities in Asia from Los Angeles, San Francisco or New York within 21 consecutive days for just USD$699 plus taxes. ADVERTISEMENT The All Asia Pass sale price of USD$699 must be purchased and ticketed by July 31, 2003. Travel must occur between September 1, 2003 through November 30, 2003, inclusive. All travel must originate from one of Cathay Pacific's three U.S. gateways: Los Angeles, New York (JFK) or San Francisco. The All Asia Pass is only available to U.S. residents with U.S. mailing addresses. Fees and taxes are not included in the base price. U.S. taxes and fees range up to USD$46.40 per person and foreign taxes and fees range from USD$8.40 to USD$42.00 per person per foreign airport departure. Seats are limited and not available on all flights. All Asia Pass terms and conditions, advance purchase requirements and other restrictions apply. The basic All Asia Pass includes travel to Hong Kong and to any or all of the following cities: Bangkok, Cebu, Denpasar (Bali), Fukuoka, Jakarta, Karachi, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Nagoya, Osaka, Penang, Sapporo, Seoul, Singapore, Surabaya, Taipei and Tokyo. Cathay Pacific offers a myriad of options to customize each All Asia Pass including transpacific upgrades to Business Class, travel to other select Cathay Pacific destinations and travel period extensions for an additional fee. Travelers must join Cathay Pacific's CyberTraveler program to qualify for the All Asia Pass sale price. To join the free CyberTraveler program, visit Cathay Pacific's local website at http://www.cathay-usa.com . All Asia Passes must be booked and ticketed through travel agents; Cathay Pacific will not accept direct consumer bookings. For more information on the All Asia Pass, visit Cathay Pacific's local web site at http://www.cathay-usa.com or call the airline's toll-free fax-back service at 1-800-607-3388, and enter document code 5001. From the U.S., Cathay Pacific offers the only double daily non-stop 747-400 service from Los Angeles to Hong Kong (temporarily reduced to one daily non-stop flight until further notice), daily non-stop 747-400 service from San Francisco to Hong Kong, daily direct 747-400 service from New York to Hong Kong and daily non-stop 747-400 service from New York to Vancouver onboard one of the youngest aircraft fleets in the world. John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: Cathay Pacific Airways

here's the text.... LOS ANGELES, June 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Cathay Pacific's June Deal of the Month offers affordable and convenient travel to exciting Bangkok. Priced from just USD $599.00 from Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York's JFK, (not including taxes and fees ranging from USD $54.90 - USD $77.40 per person), the current Deal of the Month offers roundtrip Economy Class travel to Bangkok (with free Hong Kong stopovers in both directions) on sale from June 1 to June 30, 2003 or until deemed sold out. Travelers will experience Cathay Pacific's world-renowned service, and discover first hand why the airline is a recipient of numerous industry awards including "Airline of the Year" in Skytrax's 2003 survey. ADVERTISEMENT Travel must commence between July 1, 2003 and August 31, 2003 with all travel completed by September 30, 2003. Travel must originate at a Cathay Pacific gateway city in the USA (Los Angeles, San Francisco or New York) and tickets must be purchased online at: www.cathay-usa.com/dotm where additional information is available. Other restrictions apply. Additionally, Cathay Pacific has partnered with Shangri-La Hotels and Regal Hotels International to offer exclusively discounted hotel rates in Bangkok and Hong Kong, respectively. Cathay Pacific's Deal of the Month fare to Bangkok is an invitation to visit this legendary city at extraordinarily low prices during the summer period. As may be expected, seats will go quickly and early on-line purchase is recommended. Such low fares do not earn frequent flyer mileage credit, are non-refundable and are subject to change and cancellation fees, among other restrictions. From the U.S., Cathay Pacific offers the only double daily non-stop 747-400 and A340-600 service from Los Angeles to Hong Kong (temporarily reduced to one daily non-stop until further notice), daily non-stop 747-400 service from San Francisco to Hong Kong, daily direct 747-400 service from New York to Hong Kong and daily non-stop 747-400 service from New York to Vancouver onboard one of the youngest aircraft fleets in the world. John

See previous post re: Northwest. John

New York - Bangkok, Thailand $393 John at Delta :-*

Northwest Extends Worldwide Spring, Summer Sale Tuesday April 22, 10:00 am ET Low Fares Throughout U.S., to Asia, Europe Now Available for Purchase Through May 2 ST. PAUL, Minn., April 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northwest Airlines (Nasdaq: NWAC - News) today announced that it has extended its worldwide spring and summer fare sale, giving consumers additional time to take advantage of savings on upcoming travel. Northwest's sale fares for travel throughout North America and the Caribbean, and from the United States to Asia and Europe, are now available for purchase until May 2, 2003. "Spring and summer travelers are responding to Northwest's sale prices," said Tim Griffin, executive vice president of marketing and distribution. "Consumers appreciate that sale fares are being offered in every one of the 215 cities served by Northwest or Northwest Airlink." Tickets for travel within North America and to Asia and Europe at Northwest's sale prices must be purchased by May 2, 2003. When the airline announced the sale on April 15, sale fares were available for purchase in the U.S. and to Europe until April 22, and for purchase for travel to Asia until April 29, 2003. As announced previously, sale prices are available for travel on domestic flights through September 9, 2003. To Europe, sale fares are being offered on travel completed by October 11, 2003, and for Asia, travel must be completed by June 30, 2003. Northwest's sale fares are available for purchase through the airline's Web site at www.nwa.com , Northwest Airlines reservations, travel agents and most travel Web sites. EACH-WAY* EXAMPLES OF SALE FARES ON NORTHWEST Domestic travel Detroit - Chicago or St. Louis $ 34 Wichita, Kan. - Ft. Walton Beach, Fla. $ 44 Birmingham, Ala. - New Orleans $ 46 Nashville, Tenn. - New Orleans $ 58 Minneapolis/St. Paul - Omaha, Neb. $ 78 Washington - Indianapolis $ 81 Detroit - Newark, N.J. $ 90 Kansas City, Mo. - Boston $ 84 Memphis, Tenn. - Philadelphia $ 97 Orlando, Fla. - Seattle $ 79 New York - Phoenix $118 Los Angeles - Baltimore $119 Chicago - Calgary, Alberta $139 Asia Los Angeles - Seoul, South Korea $259 Washington - Tokyo $339 Boston - Osaka, Japan $362 New York - Bangkok, Thailand $393 San Francisco - Manila, Philippines $448 Europe Boston - Amsterdam, Netherlands $185 Washington - Zurich, Switzerland $241 Detroit - Venice, Italy $292 Los Angeles - Paris $298 San Francisco - Frankfurt, Germany $329 Fare examples are each way, per passenger, based on a roundtrip purchase in Coach Class. Domestic fares listed above are valid for travel from April 29 through June 19, 2003. Fares for travel from June 20 through September 9, 2003, are higher. For travel to Europe, fares listed above are valid for travel from April 29 through June 19, 2003. Fares for travel from June 20 through October 11, 2003, are higher. Fares shown to all destinations do not include a federal excise tax of $3 per segment flown that will be imposed on each flight segment. A segment is defined as a takeoff and a landing. Passenger Facility Charges of up to $18 roundtrip, September 11 security fees of up to $10 roundtrip per person, and for international travel, departure/arrival, customs and immigrations fees of up to $112 USD, may apply. For itineraries including Canada, fares do not include federal immigrations fees and departure taxes of up to $51 (USD), and an airport improvement fee of up to $15 (CAD) per person. Northwest Airlines is the world's fourth largest airline with hubs at Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Memphis, Tokyo and Amsterdam, and approximately 1,500 daily departures. With its travel partners, Northwest serves nearly 750 cities in almost 120 countries on six continents. In 2002, consumers from throughout the world recognized Northwest's efforts to make travel easier. A 2002 J.D. Power and Associates study ranked airports at Detroit and Minneapolis/St. Paul, home to Northwest's two largest hubs, tied for second place among large domestic airports in overall customer satisfaction. Business travelers who subscribe to OAG print and electronic flight guides rated nwa.com as the best airline Web site in 2002. Readers of TTG Asia and TTG China named Northwest "Best North American airline." DOMESTIC TRAVEL TERMS AND CONDITIONS: Purchase requirements: Fares shown are each way per person based on a roundtrip purchase in Coach Class. A 14- day advance purchase is required. Tickets must be purchased within 24 hours after reservations are made, or at least 14 days prior to departure, whichever occurs first, but no later than May 2, 2003. A $25 USD/$40 CAD non-refundable surcharge will be assessed for paper tickets issued in electronic ticket- eligible markets. Off-peak days: Fares shown are valid for travel noon Monday through 11:59 a.m. Thursday. FLORIDA: Fares are valid for travel to Florida on Sunday through Wednesday, and from Florida, on Tuesday through Friday. Fares for travel on days other than those specified are higher. Minimum/maximum stay: Fares require a Saturday night stay. Most fares allow a 30-day maximum stay. Stopovers: Not permitted. Changes to itinerary: Changes may be made prior to scheduled flights for a $100 administrative service fee, however any change must meet the conditions of the new fare purchased. Changes requested after the departure of the originally scheduled flights are not permitted. Other conditions: Tickets are nonrefundable. Unused tickets not changed prior to originally scheduled flights have no value and cannot be exchanged. Seats are limited and may not be available. Some travel may be on other airlines. Fares may not be lower than Northwest's already low fares to select destinations. Fares are subject to change. Other restrictions may apply. ASIA TRAVEL TERMS AND CONDITIONS: Purchase requirements: Fares shown are each way per person based on a roundtrip purchase in Coach Class. A 7-day advance purchase is required. Tickets must be purchased within 72 hours after reservations are made, or at least 7 days prior to departure, whichever occurs first, but no later than May 2, 2003. A $25 USD/$40 CAD non-refundable surcharge will be assessed for paper tickets issued in electronic ticket- eligible markets. Available flights: Travel is permitted on Northwest Airlines flights 1-1999 and Northwest Airlink flights 2700-3699 operated by Mesaba Airlines and 3700-3799, 5600-5999 operated by Pinnacle Airlines. Travel dates: Fares are valid for outbound travel from April 7, 2003, through May 31, 2003. Return travel is valid through June 30, 2003. Off-peak days: Fares shown are valid for travel Monday through Thursday. Fares for travel on days other than those specified may be slightly higher. Minimum/maximum stay: Fares require a six-day minimum stay, with a maximum stay of 30 days. Stopovers: Not permitted. Combinations: One-way/circle trips are not permitted. Changes to itinerary: Changes are not permitted. Other conditions: Tickets are nonrefundable. Seats are limited and may not be available. Some travel may be on other airlines. Fares are subject to change. Other restrictions may apply. EUROPE TRAVEL TERMS AND CONDITIONS: Purchase requirements: Fares shown are each way per person based on a roundtrip purchase in Coach Class. A 14-day advance purchase is required. Tickets must be purchased within 72 hours after reservations are made, or at least 14 days prior to departure, whichever occurs first, but no later than May 2, 2003. A $25 USD/$40 CAD non-refundable surcharge will be assessed for paper tickets issued in electronic ticket- eligible markets. Available flights: Trans-Atlantic travel operated by Northwest or KLM. Travel dates: Outbound travel must begin no later than September 10, 2003. All travel must be complete by October 11, 2003. Off- peak days: Fares shown are valid for travel Monday through Thursday. Fares for travel on days other than those specified may be slightly higher. Minimum/maximum stay: Fares to most destinations require a Saturday night stay, with a maximum stay of 30 days. Stopovers: Not permitted. Changes to itinerary: Changes may be made prior to scheduled flights for a $200 administrative service fee, however any change must meet the conditions of the new fare purchased. Changes requested after the departure of the originally scheduled flights are not permitted. Other conditions: Tickets are nonrefundable. Unused tickets not changed prior to originally scheduled flights have no value and cannot be exchanged. Seats are limited and may not be available. Some travel may be on other airlines. Fares are subject to change. Fares are subject to government approval. Other restrictions may apply. John at Delta :-*

Thai has 2 for 1 deal in Business and 1st class on their website. ;D

MOSCOW -(Dow Jones)- Russian flag carrier OAO Aeroflot plans change its image and logo to attract more customers and will increase ticket prices, the company's commercial director, Evgeniy Bachurin, said Wednesday. He said that Aeroflot's bad image is costing it tens of millions of dollars in lost profit a year. "We know that we are not worse than our competitors in terms of service or food, but customers still give us worse grades because of our image," Bachurin said. He said flight ticket prices will gradually increase by 5% to 10% and that business and first-class tickets will be affected most by the increase. "Some 80% of the customers we asked, said they would agree to pay more for the ticket if the service was improved," Bachurin said. Aeroflot has hired a U.K. consulting firm Identica Ltd. to work out new logo and color scheme for the company and organize a new uniform design. Identica has worked on brands such as Chivas Regal and Johnny Walker whiskies, as well as companies Vodafone PLC , Nike Inc. (NYSE:NKE - News) and Finnair Oyj . Bachurin said that he will be able to estimate the investment required for the change of image by the middle of next year. The first flight of the "new image" Aeroflot, with the new style interior, menu and "more caring and polite staff," will be made at the start of the year to New York, then to Tokyo and Europe. Aeroflot, notoriously famous for bad food and rude in-flight attendants in the Soviet Union era, has been trying hard to improve its image in the past four years, even launching a campaign with a slogan "we don't smile because we are serious about making you happy." :-/

Tom,I'll be there the entire month of April at RG. John

I've had to cancel twice and Ib has been very gracious. John

Wow,someone outside the industry actually knows the difference between direct and nonstop.Amzazing. I may be wrong,but the US might be the only county requiring 180 minute ETOPS.(Quick run and look that up Tom). El,they're not going to build the Sonicruiser,right? John

LONDON, Dec 12 (Reuters) - American Airlines, a division of AMR Corp(NYSE:AMR - News), said on Thursday it had settled a case involving so-called economy class syndrome, a potentially deadly medical condition that has been associated with flying. Lawyers said the out-of-court agreement could have a big impact on a case involving dozens of airlines embroiled in a landmark court action in Britain concerning the same syndrome. A spokeswoman for American, the largest airline in the United States, confirmed that the company had settled during the past week, but said she could not add any details because the terms of the deal were confidential. A source close to the situation told Reuters the case involved a traveller flying between Paris and the United States in 2001. Lawyers for the claimants in the British-based case said the U.S. settlement could boost their own arguments. "It is definitely important," said Stuart Cakebread, a lawyer for the claimants. "I am very pleased that they have accepted responsibility, and would hope they do the same here." American Airlines declined to comment on the details of its U.S. case, however. Both sides are awaiting a decision by an English High Court judge that will determine whether over 50 victims of potentially deadly deep vein thrombosis (DVT) blood clotting -- which claimants blame on sitting in cramped aircraft cabins -- can go ahead with a case against 27 airlines. If the airlines, including British Airways Plc (London:BAY.L - News), KLM Royal Dutch (Amsterdam:KLM.AS - News) and Qantas Airways (Australia:QAN.AX - News), were to lose the case it would be another blow to an industry reeling from the global economic slowdown and a slump in ticket sales after the September 11 attacks. The victims allege that airlines failed to warn passengers of the risks of DVT, which claimants blame on cramped seats, low oxygen and long hours in the air, despite knowing of the risks for years. The airlines reject the claims and the American settlement will not change that, said Philip Bass, a lawyer for the airlines. "Just because one case is apparently settled in the States does not invalidate our defence of the cases in the UK, where there are strong grounds for rejecting liability," he said. Legal arguments in the High Court will first centre on an international aviation treaty, the 1929 Warsaw Convention, that says airlines are liable for damages only in the case of accident. The airlines argue that DVT is not an accident. In other words, if a passenger is struck down with DVT on a routine flight the carrier cannot be blamed.

No offence taken Fonz.I'm happy here;I just want to be happier,hence LOS ;D ;D ;D ;D John

You wouldn't be saying that if you were a US or UA pilot.

Fonz,you know the kind of happiness I'm referring to-where you wake every day and you are pleased,happy,enjoy the country you are proud to call home.If you don'e agree with it's policies,move.Last time I checked,we were still a democracy. John

valentino-if you're not happy here,PLEASE move!There are many countries to emigrate to.Canada was available during Viet Nam.....to those so inclined! :'( John

$816 would have bought you a month at RG and have dosh left over! I work for an airline also and have to think very long about paying for a ticket-even if it's a "deal".Spoiled after 29 years there,I guess. John Unless you a pilot-where money is "no object".hahaha.

Wow,wouldn't that make my 1st trip to Pattaya special! John

Papa Tom,didn't mean my reply as a personal attack. My apololgies if I offended you. John

Thanks 'Tom' for setting us straight once again. I will delete all my previous posts on this this thread. You really annoy me with your "know it all" diatribe. The fact that I read each post as so condescending in it's manner is what annoys me. You won't be in Pattaya next month,will you? John

Abu Bakar Bashir, a Muslim cleric accused of leading Jemaah Islamiyah, denied involvement and blamed the blast on the United States. "I suspect that the bombing was engineered by the United States and its allies to justify allegations that Indonesia is a base for terrorists," he told the AP in telephone interview from Solo, a city in central Java, where he runs an Islamic boarding school. Indonesian police refused to say whether Bashir would be questioned despite repeated calls by neighboring countries that he be arrested. "Islamic boarding school"-another name for al-Qaida training camp. How sad indeed.

Yeah-those black socks look good on the tennis court!

Yes they can open a bag either in the passenger's presence,or in another case,in the presence of an airline employee when a bag is not accompanied;in the case of a bag and passenger being separated for whatever reason.That's how airlines clear international bags thru Customs.That's how it is here in the States and most civilized countries.Customs cannot remove any item w/o 1st advising their intention and if duty is due,you must pay.They cannot just STEAL contents. John