Airbus and Boeing products running behind schedule

[BigDUSA 71]

Coming from you, that's funny.

 

 

 

 

See above. The EU federal taxpayer isn't on the hook for anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no such entity. You made that up - just like you do 99% of your other nonsense.

 

 

 

The EU doesn't raise taxes from it's citizens.

 

Jeez ... funding, profitability, safety, production, delivery, company structures ... Isn't there anything you can get right?

 

You've been using your Boeing v Airbus "arguments" as a cover/excuse to spout your bigoted, nationalistic, xenophobic shit for four years now. Kinda sad. :allright

 

So much negativity from tommie. What's the matter tommie couple of days till Christmas and all your finding is lumps of coal in your stocking.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

So much negativity from tommie. What's the matter tommie couple of days till Christmas and all your finding is lumps of coal in your stocking.

 

It doesn't matter - apparently the fat guy with the straggly beard won't be visiting Thailand anytime soon anyway.

 

 

 

[Yzi 72]

Boeing’s Dreamliner is already more than two years behind its original schedule.

 

Production of the new carbon-composite aircraft has been delayed five times in three years, as parts shortages, design problems and a two-month strike at Boeing’s factory all took a toll.

 

The first flight of the aircraft was also postponed six times.

 

A true success story

[BigDUSA 71]

Coming from you, that's funny.

 

 

 

 

See above. The EU federal taxpayer isn't on the hook for anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no such entity. You made that up - just like you do 99% of your other nonsense.

 

 

 

The EU doesn't raise taxes from it's citizens.

 

Jeez ... funding, profitability, safety, production, delivery, company structures ... Isn't there anything you can get right?

 

You've been using your Boeing v Airbus "arguments" as a cover/excuse to spout your bigoted, nationalistic, xenophobic shit for four years now. Kinda sad. :allright

 

OMG tommie says their's no one in charge at Airbus commercial plane division. NO WONDER things are so fucked up at Airbus. The A380 program years, late, way over budget. Wings under spec. The fucked up wiring harness and let's not forget the exploding piece of crap from Rolls Royce. Hundred's of million dollar lawsuits against Rolls Royce and Airbus. I can just see the begging bowl from Airbus now. EU taxpayer Airbus.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I can just see the begging bowl from Airbus now.

 

Jeez! Fat, ugly, overweight, a whole host of ailments and dependent on the taxpayer for cash. And then, there's the A380.

 

Ah well, at least the A380 is still managing to make regular trips to Thailand.

 

 

 

Edited December 24, 2010 by CheshireTom

[TheFiend 1,181]

Jeez! Fat, ugly, overweight, a whole host of ailments and dependent on the taxpayer for cash. And then, there's the A380.

 

Ah well, at least the A380 is still managing to make regular trips to Thailand.

 

You forgot to add this....... US Taxpayer BigD

[BigDUSA 71]

Boeing resuming 787 flight testing, to announce new delivery schedule in January

By Aaron Karp | December 24, 2010

 

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Share EmailPrintBoeing planned to resume 787 flight testing late Thursday for the first time since a Nov. 9 inflight fire forced the grounding of the test fleet.

 

The manufacturer determined that a power panel in 787 flight test aircraft ZA002's aft electronics bay suffered a "failure" during the Nov. 9 flight, leading "to a fire involving an insulation blanket" that caused main cabin smoke necessitating an emergency landing and the suspension of all flight testing (ATW Daily News, Nov. 15). Boeing said in a statement Thursday that it has "installed an interim version of updated power distribution system software and conducted a rigorous set of reviews to confirm the flight readiness of ZA004, the first of the six flight test airplanes that will return to flight."

 

The disruption of the flight testing program has led to wide speculation that first delivery of the 787 to ANA, currently scheduled for the 2011 first quarter, will be delayed yet again (ATW Daily News, Nov. 22). Boeing VP and GM-787 Program Scott Fancher did not announce a new delivery schedule, explaining, "As we return to flight test and determine the pace of that activity, we remain focused on developing a new program schedule. We expect to complete our assessment of the program schedule in January."

 

He noted that initial flight tests will focus on the resumption of "a series of Boeing tests that remain to be completed in the flight test program. That testing will be followed later by a resumption of certification testing."

 

Boeing stated that it and Hamilton Sundstrand "completed testing of the interim software updates earlier this week. Verification of the system included laboratory testing of standalone components, integration testing with other systems, flight simulator testing and ground-based testing on a flight test airplane." It added that while the flight test fleet has been grounded, "the company continued ground testing as part of the certification program. Additional ground testing will be done by the company on the production version of the airplane to further verify performance of the changes being made."

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[BigDUSA 71]

Qantas closer to returning A380 to Los Angeles

By Geoffrey Thomas | December 23, 2010

 

0 Share EmailPrintQantas is believed to be closer to restarting Airbus A380 service on the Los Angeles to Sydney and Melbourne routes after regulators eased engine inspection rules.

 

According to The Australian, Qantas is in discussions with Rolls-Royce about how it can lift restrictions on Trent 900 engines that prevent the aircraft flying from the US with a full payload.

 

EASA this week relaxed its requirement of a Trent 900 inspection every 20 flights, designed to detect oil leaks, to an inspection every 200 flights.

 

EASA ordered the inspections after the Nov. 4 explosion of a Trent 972 engine on a Qantas A380 after take-off from Singapore. The problem has been traced to fatigue cracks in an incorrectly bored stub pipe that feeds oil into the High Pressure and Intermediate Pressure bearing structure (ATW Daily News, Dec. 3).

 

Qantas said it will have five A380s flying by Christmas Day including its seventh, which was delivered last week. The airline will take delivery of a further two A380s next month.

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[Fireman Sam 336]

Looks like it happens to all of them.

 

 

Incident: TAAG B772 at Luanda on Dec 23rd 2010, engine shut down in flight

By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Dec 24th 2010 14:31Z, last updated Friday, Dec 24th 2010 14:31Z

 

A TAAG Angola Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration D2-TEE performing flight DT-550 from Luanda (Angola) to Dubai (United Arab Emirates) with 32 passengers and 13 crew, was climbing through 2500 feet out of Luanda when the right hand engine (GE90) emitted a loud bang followed by an engine fire indication. The crew shut the engine down and returned to Luanda for a safe landing.

 

The airline reported, that following this second serious engine failure within 17 days they decided to ground their 777 fleet and requested clarification of the causes from Boeing and General Electrics.

 

Another Boeing 777-200 registration D2-TEF had experienced engine trouble dropping engine parts near Lisbon earlier in the month, see Incident: TAAG B772 at Lisbon on Dec 6th 2010, engine vibrations, dropped parts.

 

Full link below.

 

http://avherald.com/h?article=4351f54c

 

 

 

 

Regards

Fireman Sam

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Looks like it happens to all of them.

 

LOL. The "BigD Kiss of Death" strikes again.

[TheFiend 1,181]

Looks like it happens to all of them.

 

It does....... but BigD thinks engine failure only happen if they are made by Rolls Royce.

[BigDUSA 71]

You forgot to add this....... US Taxpayer BigD

 

I want to give a special shout out to the following US Taxpayers. Hub, brotherbuzz and btm1978. I couldn't do it without your support.

[BigDUSA 71]

Since an explosive engine failure nearly downed one of his prized A380 jetliners, Qantas Airways Ltd. Chief Executive Alan Joyce has been scrambling to clean up the damage.

 

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Andrew Quilty for The Wall Street Journal.

 

Chief Executive Alan Joyce says Qantas is looking at social-networking following incorrect reports after a November engine failure.

.The failure minutes after the Sydney-bound flight left Singapore on Nov. 4 forced Qantas to ground its fleet of six A380s for safety checks on the planes' Rolls-Royce PLC engines. Today, most are back in service, but Qantas isn't yet back to full capacity.

 

Mr. Joyce is waiting for Rolls-Royce to resolve technical issues before restoring Qantas's key Sydney-Los Angeles route. He's also seeking compensation from Rolls; Merrill Lynch estimates that the A380's grounding could cost the airline 207 million Australian dollars ($207.9 million) in lost revenue and direct repairs.

 

The Irish-born Australian has worked his way up the ranks of Australia's aviation industry, moving to Qantas about a decade ago and becoming CEO in 2008. No stranger to crises, he's seen the industry endure the travel slump that followed the Sept. 11 attacks; an outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome that hammered airlines across Asia; and, this year, a volcanic eruption in Iceland.

 

Mr. Joyce recently spoke with The Wall Street Journal at Qantas's Sydney city office.

 

Excerpts:

 

WSJ: How did you learn about the A380 incident?

 

Mr. Joyce:I was at a business lunch here in the city. We had just done a presentation and had a lunch with investors and analysts. We were leaving in a car, and the investor relations people are telling me the share price is collapsing. The share price went down something crazy like 12-15 cents in the space of half an hour.

 

We knew that we had an issue with an aircraft, which was circling. I get text messages any time there's operational issues. But there were rumors about a crash after parts of the aircraft had fallen in Indonesia. These tweets started appearing that a Qantas aircraft had crashed. Then one of the news agencies probably based a story inappropriately on the tweets and the share price collapsed.

 

 

WSJ: What did you do?

 

Mr. Joyce: Immediately we went to our emergency and crisis executive center. We confirmed the aircraft was still in the air, so we immediately got out there and said the aircraft's still flying and was due to land. It took two hours for the pilots to circle and burn fuel, but also to handle the error messages the computer says you need to sort out before landing.

 

At this stage we had all of the crisis executives activated, we had a bank of TV screens, and we had all the live coverage taking place, with communications with the pilots and the operations staff at the airport at Singapore. When we knew the aircraft had landed safely we were able to put a statement out to say that was the case.

 

 

WSJ:What did you learn about social media from that experience?

 

Mr. Joyce: Since then we've hired a group of people just to look at the social network side of things. We were ready for traditional media and we had a press conference by 4 o'clock that afternoon, which I fronted. And we had our press statement out within half an hour of us knowing the issue. But we'd missed this whole [social media] end of communication. Since then we've had a couple of other rumors occurring and we've gotten on top of it with tweets and Facebook, and we've killed it before it's become a story.

 

 

WSJ: You made a big bet on the A380. Has this engine problem made you think twice about that?

 

Mr. Joyce: No, I think it's a fantastic aircraft. And it's going to be still the flagship of Qantas for some time.

 

 

WSJ: Why did you decide to go with Rolls-Royce for the engine, and has the experience in any way changed your view of that company in the future?

 

Mr. Joyce:Where you can have a choice we have a competition between the engine manufacturers. And Rolls put the best package together in terms of performance of the engine, the maintenance of the engine and the price overall. The one thing to say about Rolls is this type of failure is very rare for them.

 

 

WSJ: How do you feel that the Qantas image has been affected by the problems you've had with the A380?

 

Mr. Joyce:We're doing extensive brand research. If you look back, Qantas has had a couple of significant issues over the last decade and the brand in our minds has been very robust. With flight QF1 10 years ago, the aircraft ran off the runway in Bangkok, and then in 2008 we had the oxygen cylinders on a 747 explode and come through the aircraft. While in the short term our brand has taken, I think, a small hit, it's not as bad as in the previous occasions. People saw how we approached these incidents compared to the rest of the industry, and that's actually held our brand in good stead.

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[CheshireTom 1,377]

Since an explosive engine failure nearly downed one of his prized A380 jetliners blah blah, blah ...

 

You didn't write that. Your (sic) going to have to figure out the quote function ...

 

With flight QF1 10 years ago, the aircraft ran off the runway in Bangkok, and then in 2008 we had the oxygen cylinders on a 747 explode and come through the aircraft

 

Exploding oxygen cylinders?

Edited December 30, 2010 by CheshireTom

[TheFiend 1,181]

Notice how BigD keeps going on about the A380 engine failure, but hasn't made a single comment about these 2 Boeing 777 GE90 engine failures!!!

 

Looks like it happens to all of them.

 

 

Incident: TAAG B772 at Luanda on Dec 23rd 2010, engine shut down in flight

By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Dec 24th 2010 14:31Z, last updated Friday, Dec 24th 2010 14:31Z

 

A TAAG Angola Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration D2-TEE performing flight DT-550 from Luanda (Angola) to Dubai (United Arab Emirates) with 32 passengers and 13 crew, was climbing through 2500 feet out of Luanda when the right hand engine (GE90) emitted a loud bang followed by an engine fire indication. The crew shut the engine down and returned to Luanda for a safe landing.

 

The airline reported, that following this second serious engine failure within 17 days they decided to ground their 777 fleet and requested clarification of the causes from Boeing and General Electrics.

 

Another Boeing 777-200 registration D2-TEF had experienced engine trouble dropping engine parts near Lisbon earlier in the month, see Incident: TAAG B772 at Lisbon on Dec 6th 2010, engine vibrations, dropped parts.

 

Regards

Fireman Sam

 

His xenophobia strikes again!!!

[TheFiend 1,181]

Here is a quote from one of the Quantas pilots on flight QF32

 

ASChan: What’s your opinion of the A380’s survivability compared to other types you have flown?

 

DE: Well I think the Airbus A380 – it’s a testament to the aircraft that we managed to get the aeroplane successfully on to the ground. The fly-by-wire system, albeit with the damage we were in an alternate law, it still was very flyable. Now comparing that to other types I have flown I am sure that Boeing types would have been equally flyable, but they would have been a lot more difficult, I’m sure.

 

The full interview is here.

 

Despite the damage they were still able to land safely.... And reading through the article the pilots biggest concerns happened after the aircraft landed, when they came to evacuate the passengers..... Fuel was leaking and one of the engines wouldn't shut down.

 

Also it is interesting to note the pilots opinion of Boeings if one of them was in the same situation..... and that is a pilot with several years experience of flying Boeing aircraft.

[BigDUSA 71]

Here is a quote from one of the Quantas pilots on flight QF32

 

 

 

The full interview is here.

 

Despite the damage they were still able to land safely.... And reading through the article the pilots biggest concerns happened after the aircraft landed, when they came to evacuate the passengers..... Fuel was leaking and one of the engines wouldn't shut down.

 

Also it is interesting to note the pilots opinion of Boeings if one of them was in the same situation..... and that is a pilot with several years experience of flying Boeing aircraft.

 

Congratulations to Qantas and the training the pilots received. Well done!

[TheFiend 1,181]

Congratulations to Qantas and the training the pilots received. Well done!

 

Yet no comment from you on the fact a highly experienced Qantas pilot feels the A380 is a safer plane than Boeings in that situation....

 

And still no comment on the 777/GE90 engine failures!!!

[BigDUSA 71]

Yet no comment from you on the fact a highly experienced Qantas pilot feels the A380 is a safer plane than Boeings in that situation....

 

And still no comment on the 777/GE90 engine failures!!!

 

When the highly experienced Qantas pilot experiences the same type of catastrophic engine failure on a Boeing airplane. Get back to me. Until then his opinion has little relevance.

[jacko 8,813]

When the highly experienced Qantas pilot experiences the same type of catastrophic engine failure on a Boeing airplane. Get back to me. Until then his opinion has little relevance.

Boeing Aircraft do not have highly experienced pilots?

[BigDUSA 71]

Yet no comment from you on the fact a highly experienced Qantas pilot feels the A380 is a safer plane than Boeings in that situation....

 

And still no comment on the 777/GE90 engine failures!!!

 

Let's go over the Rolls Royce Trent engine fiasco. There are so few of this series engine in service and so many have had problems. GE, P&W and Rolls Royce have thousands of engines in service. So few engine failures. Seems there are problems with the Trent series.

[Samsonite 181]

Notice how BigD keeps going on about the A380 engine failure, but hasn't made a single comment about these 2 Boeing 777 GE90 engine failures!!!

You might want to check TAAG's reputation for poor to non-existent maintenance. One week's maintenance after months, if not years, of neglect does not make for a safe airline.

 

You might want to read this thread:

 

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/g...d.main/5018670/

Edited December 31, 2010 by Samsonite

[TheFiend 1,181]

When the highly experienced Qantas pilot experiences the same type of catastrophic engine failure on a Boeing airplane. Get back to me. Until then his opinion has little relevance.

 

I think I would chose the opinion of an experienced pilot over that of a retired postman with regards to the safety of a plane.

[TheFiend 1,181]

You might want to check TAAG's reputation for poor to non-existent maintenance. One week's maintenance after months, if not years, of neglect does not make for a safe airline.

 

You might want to read this thread:

 

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/g...d.main/5018670/

 

Funny.... I asked for a comment from BigD but as per usual Samsonite pokes his nose in...

 

You say I might want to read that thread - well, I have been following that thread since it started....

[TheFiend 1,181]

You might want to check TAAG's reputation for poor to non-existent maintenance. One week's maintenance after months, if not years, of neglect does not make for a safe airline.

 

The 2 777's with the engine failures are only 2 and 4 years old and were bought new, so have hardly suffered years of neglect.