Airbus and Boeing products running behind schedule

[sabang 0]

So after #2725 posts, who's stuffing it up worst?

Just wait until the chinks come out with a plane.

On time, half price, & powered by rice.

[BigDUSA 71]

Stop being a drama queen. Nobody got so much as a scratch.

 

I wonder if you would feel the same way if you and your family were on the ill fated Qantas flight?

[BigDUSA 71]

So after #2725 posts, who's stuffing it up worst?

Just wait until the chinks come out with a plane.

On time, half price, & powered by rice.

 

At this point. Boeing is in the lead. Big lead.

[Samsonite 181]

...Just wait until the chinks come out with a plane....

They are working on it, plus airbus is, or will be, building some a320s in China. Just yesterday this was the subject of conversation with a Chinese friend who said quality control, or the lack thereof, will be the major issue.

[TheFiend 1,181]

They are working on it, plus airbus is, or will be, building some a320s in China. Just yesterday this was the subject of conversation with a Chinese friend who said quality control, or the lack thereof, will be the major issue.

 

Ahhhhh... so just like Boeing then.....

[BigDUSA 71]

Ahhhhh... so just like Boeing then.....

 

Let's not forget the A380 wiring harness fiasco. The German and French engineering staff inability to communicate with each other. The wing not meeting specifications and last but not lest the exploding Rolls Royce engine that damn near killed all the passengers on Qantas.

[jacko 8,813]

I wonder if you would feel the same way if you and your family were on the ill fated Qantas flight?

I would have felf relief, and proud that the very skilled pilots calmly returned me to the ground, without any of us with as much as a scratch.

My work presented more danger.... no wonder you got the shit kicked out of you in Vietnam if they sent over such wooses!

[Samsonite 181]

"DATE:10/02/11

SOURCE:Flight International

Clark: 777-300ER responsible for sparse 747-8I sales

By Brendan Sobie

 

Emirates president Tim Clark believes the success of the Boeing 777-300ER is behind the lack of success so far for the 747-8I, which has only secured 28 orders from two airline customers since its launch in 2006.

 

"What Boeing is up against is not the A380, it is their own machine - the 777-300ER," Clark says.

"The ER has proven to be one of the most popular aircraft ever produced, which is why we bought 100 of them. Even American is buying them. Not many but ,when they start flying it, they will realise how good it is."

 

Emirates Boeing 777-300ER

© BaoLou/AirTeamImages.com

 

Clark points out that Emirates carries 420 passengers on its 777-300ERs in a two-class configuration. He believes the 747-8I will only be able to carry slightly more passengers.

 

"Now look at the economics. We can get the ER to operate 17.5h with that kind of payload. It's cheap to operate. The engines are hugely fuel efficient," he says. "You've an amazing capability."

 

He also thinks the 747-8I will be "a fuel-efficient machine" as it has new wings and a new propulsion system.

 

However, Emirates has absolutely no interest in the aircraft and Clark does not see how many carriers can justify acquiring the 747-8I given the operating economics of the 777-300ER.

 

"I hope they get it out the door because there are so many difficulties at the moment now with the manufacturing fraternity - with the 787, the 747-8, the A380 trying to get that out the door four or five years ago and then the A400M programme. So they have all been up against it," Clark says."

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/...7-8i-sales.html

[jacko 8,813]

I was hoping Big D would like to comment on the unsafe practices of his favourite Airline, United, regarding their Boeing Aircraft 757. Also their failure to comply with the FAA 2004 directive.

He has been pretty quick to carp on regarding Airbus and Rolls Royce engines and maintenance!

 

Story...

[Fireman Sam 336]

BigD has been confined to other parts of the board, so don't think he can post in this section now.

 

 

Regards

[Yzi 72]

I was hoping Big D would like to comment on the unsafe practices of his favourite Airline, United, regarding their Boeing Aircraft 757. Also their failure to comply with the FAA 2004 directive.

He has been pretty quick to carp on regarding Airbus and Rolls Royce engines and maintenance!

 

Story...

 

You could post this to B&A, i bet he wants to comment it by attacking airbus or some european airline

[TheFiend 1,181]

I was hoping Big D would like to comment on the unsafe practices of his favourite Airline, United, regarding their Boeing Aircraft 757. Also their failure to comply with the FAA 2004 directive.

He has been pretty quick to carp on regarding Airbus and Rolls Royce engines and maintenance!

 

Story...

 

It's only took them 7 years to comply....

[jacko 8,813]

BigD has been confined to other parts of the board, so don't think he can post in this section now.

 

 

Regards

Oh I missed that.... have to mooch around back in his posting history to see what brought that about. It sure will quieten this thread.

[Samsonite 181]

It's only took them 7 years to comply....

"United temporarily grounds 96 757s for checks; service disruption appears minimal

By: Aaron Karp

 

United Airlines temporarily grounded its fleet of 96 Boeing 757s on Tuesday for emergency checks on air data computer systems, but said the fleet was nearly back to normal by Wednesday afternoon. The carrier said 15 flights were canceled on Tuesday owing to the checks but none on Wednesday.

 

The checks were spurred by an internal discovery that UA hadn't conducted all of the operational checks on the equipment mandated by a 2004 FAA Airworthiness Directive. The checks took about 60-90 min. per aircraft and all air data computers were found to be "fully functional," UA said, adding that the checks caused "very minimal impact on operations." The grounding was voluntary on UA's part, FAA said. Continental Airlines' 757s were not affected."

http://atwonline.com/news/other-headlines/

[Samsonite 181]

"Qantas's damaged A380 to return to service this year

By Will Horton

 

The Qantas Airbus A380 aircraft damaged last November during an uncontained Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine failure will return to service this year.

 

"We'll be in the air by the end of the year with that aircraft," says Qantas CEO Alan Joyce. He cautions, however, that "it could take as long as September until it is fully repaired."

 

The aircraft has been parked at Singapore's Changi airport since the November incident.

 

Joyce says the cost to repair VH-OQA, the first A380 delivered to Qantas, will exceed A$100m (US$99.8m). Insurance and contractual agreements with Rolls-Royce will cover the repairs.

 

Qantas says A380 disruptions had a $55m cost impact in the first half of its financial year ended 31 December. The carrier estimates a further $25m impact in the second half of the year.

 

The November incident took out one of the aircraft's two hydraulic systems and extensively damaged the port wing. The aircraft landed safely, and the passengers and crew suffered no injuries.

 

The A380 fleet was grounded for three weeks after the incident.

 

Although services to Singapore and London resumed in late November, services to Los Angeles did not resume until last month.

 

Qantas has taken an injunction against Rolls-Royce in Australia, but chief financial officer Gareth Evans says Qantas prefers to reach a commercial settlement. "We'll take the time necessary to do that," he says."

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/...-this-year.html

 

Hmmm... Ten months and $100 Million to repair it, plus $80 Million in "disruption costs"? Isn't that

just about what Qantas paid for the plane new?

Qantas has been known to spend outrageous amounts of money to repair an aircraft so they can claim they have never had a hull loss. Remember the 747-400 that went off the runway at Don Muang (old BKK)? It was a write off, but Qantas spent about the same amount of money, IIRC, to put it back in service.

Edited February 17, 2011 by Samsonite

[TheFiend 1,181]

Hmmm... Ten months and $100 Million to repair it, plus $80 Million in "disruption costs"? Isn't that

just about what Qantas paid for the plane new?

Qantas has been known to spend outrageous amounts of money to repair an aircraft so they can claim they have never had a hull loss. Remember the 747-400 that went off the runway at Don Muang (old BKK)? It was a write off, but Qantas spent about the same amount of money, IIRC, to put it back in service.

 

Probably makes better economic sense to have VH-OQA repaired, due to the fact it would take longer to build a new one to replace her and the damage is repairable.

 

Boeing fanboys would love it if she was written off.

[Samsonite 181]

Probably makes better economic sense to have VH-OQA repaired, due to the fact it would take longer to build a new one to replace her and the damage is repairable....

Given how long it takes airbust to build an A380, you have a very good point.

Edited February 17, 2011 by Samsonite

[wacmedia 277]

Hi,

 

Good to see Europe is getting on with other developments as well as Airbus.

 

http://www.eads.com/eads/int/en/news/press...d82cb9791b.html

 

Astrium sends the ATV Johannes Kepler on its way to the International Space Station

 

At 9:50 p.m. (GMT), Ariane 5 launched the ATV Johannes Kepler into orbit.

Kourou, 16 February 2011

 

Weighing in at 20.1 tonnes, this second ATV (Automated Transfer Vehicle) is the heaviest object to be launched into space by an Ariane 5.

 

Accomplishing such a feat required a special version of the Ariane 5, which was developed and manufactured by Astrium. The Ariane 5 ES has an EPS re-ignitable upper stage, a reinforced equipment bay and a flight program that was redeveloped for this specific mission. Alain Charmeau, CEO of Astrium Space Transportation, recently confirmed that “the re-ignitable upper stage has perfectly positioned the ATV in its intended orbit.”

 

Alain Charmeau went on to express his delight with this latest successful launch: “This is the biggest event in space this year, and we have the teams at Astrium to thank for it. It was also the 42nd successful launch in a row for Ariane 5, for which Astrium is prime contractor. Today, we celebrate two major accomplishments for Astrium: the 200th flight of an Ariane, and the launch of a second ATV on a pre-programmed route to the International Space Station. Both these major programs conducted by the European space industry are under Astrium’s responsibility. Both make use of the most cutting-edge technology that currently exists. And both are made possible by government support.”

 

The mission of the ATV Johannes Kepler has only begun, as it will soon be embarking on the complicated phase when it will rendezvous with the International Space Station (ISS) and perform a docking manoeuvre. At that point, the ATV will become a fully integrated, inhabited module of the ISS.

Edited February 18, 2011 by wacmedia

[Samsonite 181]

Rolls Strikes Again.

At first I was going to say, maintenance, but the aircraft is too new. This problem would appear to be linked, if not the cause of, the engine failure this last November.

 

 

"DATE:01/03/11

SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence news

ATSB investigates second Qantas A380 engine incident

By Ghim-Lay Yeo

 

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) is investigating a second incident involving the engine oil quantity on a Qantas Airways Airbus A380, which had one of its engines reduced to idle thrust on a flight on 24 February.

 

This follows a similar incident on 15 February, which also involved another Qantas A380.

 

In the most recent incident, the aircraft, registration VH-OQG, was operating from Singapore to London Heathrow when its number three Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine's oil quantity decreased while cruising near Ashgabat in Turkmenistan.

 

"The crew reduced its thrust to flight idle," says the ATSB, which has commenced investigations into the incident.

 

The aircraft involved in the incident was built in December 2010, according to Flightglobal's ACAS database.

 

This is the second such incident involving engine oil quantity on Qantas' A380s, which are all powered by Trent 900s.

 

On 15 February, the crew of a Qantas A380, registration VH-OQC, reduced the number four engine to idle after observing a gradual decrease in oil quantity. The aircraft was also operating on a Singapore-London Heathrow flight.

 

The ATSB had said that subsequent inspections into the earlier incident showed that the fitting of the engine's external high pressure / intermediate pressure oil line "had less than the required torque".

 

The Trent 900's HP/IP bearing module has been linked to last November's uncontained engine failure on a Qantas A380, which has yet to return to service.

 

In a report on that incident released last December, the ATSB says a manufacturing defect led to cracking within a stub pipe that feeds oil to the HP/IP structure, resulting in oil leakage and an engine failure."

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/...e-incident.html

[Samsonite 181]

"DATE:03/03/11

SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence news

Dubai's DAE axes 30 more Airbus orders

By David Kaminski-Morrow

 

Middle Eastern lessor Dubai Aerospace Enterprise has cancelled another 30 aircraft from its Airbus order book, including 12 A350s.

 

The decision has wiped out Airbus' sales for the first two months of the year, leaving it with a negative net order count for the end of February 2011.

DAE's backlog had originally featured 70 A320s and 30 A350s.

 

Last year it slashed seven A350s and 18 A320s from its books. DAE also dropped several orders it had placed with Boeing.

 

Airbus' latest monthly order data, covering the period to the end of February 2011, reveals that DAE has axed another 30 jets.

 

It has cut a dozen A350-900s, reducing its order to just 11, as well as 18 A320s, leaving it with 34 on Airbus' books.

 

Airbus secured orders for eight aircraft in February - four A380s for Skymark Airlines and three A330s for AirAsia X, plus a single private A319 - taking its gross figure to 40 for the year so far.

 

But the DAE cancellation, on top of the removal in January of Flyington Freighters' order for the A330-200F, leaves Airbus with a net deficit of three airframes for 2011.

 

Airbus delivered 73 aircraft in the first two months of the year, including two A380s, 15 A330s and 56 A320-family jets."

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/airbus+a330.html

[jacko 8,813]

"DATE:03/03/11

SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence news

Dubai's DAE axes 30 more Airbus orders

By David Kaminski-Morrow

 

Middle Eastern lessor Dubai Aerospace Enterprise has cancelled another 30 aircraft from its Airbus order book, including 12 A350s.

 

The decision has wiped out Airbus' sales for the first two months of the year, leaving it with a negative net order count for the end of February 2011.

DAE's backlog had originally featured 70 A320s and 30 A350s.

 

Last year it slashed seven A350s and 18 A320s from its books. DAE also dropped several orders it had placed with Boeing.

 

Airbus' latest monthly order data, covering the period to the end of February 2011, reveals that DAE has axed another 30 jets.

 

It has cut a dozen A350-900s, reducing its order to just 11, as well as 18 A320s, leaving it with 34 on Airbus' books.

 

Airbus secured orders for eight aircraft in February - four A380s for Skymark Airlines and three A330s for AirAsia X, plus a single private A319 - taking its gross figure to 40 for the year so far.

 

But the DAE cancellation, on top of the removal in January of Flyington Freighters' order for the A330-200F, leaves Airbus with a net deficit of three airframes for 2011.

 

Airbus delivered 73 aircraft in the first two months of the year, including two A380s, 15 A330s and 56 A320-family jets."

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/airbus+a330.html

Hardly surprising with current events in the ME, and the financial instability there. The Dubai FM has fallen from 1600 to 1375 in the last couple of weeks.

The same company cancelled 32 Boeing plane orders last month....

Oil prices are going the wrong way for the Aircraft industry... expect more.

 

Edit...last month not last year!

Edited March 4, 2011 by jacko

[TheFiend 1,181]

Scally.... funny how you fail to mention this one

 

The Times of India

 

Dubai Aerospace cancels order for 32 Boeing 737s

AFP, Feb 9, 2011, 09.11am IST

 

NEW YORK: US aerospace giant Boeing said that Dubai aircraft leasing firm Dubai Aerospace Enterprise cancelled an order for 32 of its best-selling single-aisle 737 aircraft.

 

Boeing spokesman Doug Alder confirmed the name yesterday after Boeing first announced the cancellation without identifying the customer.

 

He said Dubai Aerospace Enterprise, an ambitious, mainly aircraft leasing business launched in February 2006 and partly owned by the crisis-strapped government of Dubai's investment arm, still has 56 orders on Boeing's books. DAE had ordered 35 737s, 15 747s and six 777s, he said.

 

Chicago-based Boeing has taken 32 new orders for 737s in the year to date: Alaska Airlines, 15 planes; the US Navy, six; one from a non-airline operator; and 10 more just revealed Thursday, from "unidentified customer(s)".

 

But according to Boeing's weekly update on changes in orders and deliveries for commercial aircraft, the DAE cancellation left orders for 737s so far this year at a net zero.

[Samsonite 181]

Scally.... funny how you fail to mention this one

Nah, just waiting for you to get "back to work," so to speak. Where have you been the last few weeks?

[TheFiend 1,181]

Nah, just waiting for you to get "back to work," so to speak. Where have you been the last few weeks?

 

Since BigD is confined to places elsewhere...... so been baiting him there instead!!!

[TheFiend 1,181]

Another 787 cancellation

 

Etihad cancels orders for four 787 Dreamliners news

04 March 2011

 

 

Middle Eastern airline, Etihad of Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates, cancelled orders for four Boeing 787 Dreamliners in February. The carrier still has 31 Dreamliners on order.

 

Data on Boeing orders website also reveals that Air Berlin of Germany cancelled two B737 orders in February.

 

Boeing's orders update also shows that in the last week of February, it won new orders for ten B777 jets worth approximately $1.5 billion after industry discounts. It also had two cancelled B737 orders.

 

Boeing said Brazilian airline TAM ordered two of the ten B777s but did not identify which customer or customers took the remaining eight B777s.

 

At list prices, the total value of the latest orders is about $2.7 billion. The purchase value after discounts is estimated using data provided by aircraft valuation firm Avitas.

 

With 55 new orders and 38 cancelations till February of this year, Boeing's net order tally now stands at 17 jets.

 

Not the best start to the year for both airline manufacturers...