Airbus and Boeing products running behind schedule

[nidnoyham 30]

Si and I saw the first arrival at LHR- 2 years ago ? All the plane spotters were on 28 R where the other planes were landing. Darned if ATC didn't direct it down on 27. They would have got a better look from Tesco's carpark at Dukes Green.

 

Funny thing, from a distance, it didn't look any bigger than a 747. Just fatter. I'm off on the TG 911 Wed' morning, be in Patts following week.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I'm glad to see SQ add service with the 380. I'm waiting for then to start service between JFK-SIN. I'd give them a go to see what the 380 is like.

 

When is that likely to happen? They can't fill the current 747 on the route.

[eltib 54]

When is that likely to happen? They can't fill the current 747 on the route.

 

Tom,

 

Once again Big D is fixating. He'll probably try chartering a 380 with his measly pension he gets from the likes of Hub, and I.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Tom,

 

Once again Big D is fixating. He'll probably try chartering a 380 with his measly pension he gets from the likes of Hub, and I.

 

And I'm glad to see that the A380 isn't the only overweight, ugly behemoth that's unashamedly subsidised by the hard-working taxpayer.

[BigDUSA 71]

When is that likely to happen? They can't fill the current 747 on the route.

 

I write a nice comment congratulating SQ on receiving their third delivery and you write a nasty response concerning load factor of their 747 as if I'm supposed to know the inner workings of SQ. Get real and how lame can you get.

[eltib 54]

I write a nice comment congratulating SQ on receiving their third delivery and you write a nasty response concerning load factor of their 747 as if I'm supposed to know the inner workings of SQ. Get real and how lame can you get.

 

Hey you're claiming to be an aviation expert? Granted Mr. is a pilot. That makes him an expert.

 

But even I worked for the industry for over 22 years in IT. It wasn't always IT related, because I had to familiarize myself with the programs I supported at Rockell and Boeing. It was part of my job.

Edited January 30, 2008 by eltib

[BigDUSA 71]

Hey you're claiming to be an aviation expert? Granted Mr. is a pilot. That makes him an expert.

 

But even I worked for the industry for over 22 years in IT. It wasn't always IT related, because I had to familiarize myself with the programs I supported at Rockell and Boeing. It was part of my job.

 

What are you talking about?

[eltib 54]

What are you talking about?

 

READ

 

Your asking Tom a question, and he's not being negative about "not filling a 747." Yet you seem to think SQ somehow you will fly 380s out of JFK if they can't fill them. I don't see how myself if they can't fill a 747.

 

But now I've read further about the "ugly behemoth" But once again you failed to correctly quote Tom.

 

Maybe Tom needs he Pi-Pi whacked for being a bad boy....Oh Shit... I'm sure he gets it done every night by some stunning beauty.

 

Edited January 31, 2008 by eltib

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I write a nice comment congratulating SQ on receiving their third delivery and you write a nasty response concerning load factor of their 747 as if I'm supposed to know the inner workings of SQ. Get real and how lame can you get.

 

Nasty?

 

Oh, I see. It was just another Walter Mitty response by you ........ imagining that the airline would be starting a JFK-SIN A380 service without any basis of fact. Pretty much like the majority of your posts on the subject.

[BigDUSA 71]

Nasty?

 

Oh, I see. It was just another Walter Mitty response by you ........ imagining that the airline would be starting a JFK-SIN A380 service without any basis of fact. Pretty much like the majority of your posts on the subject.

 

LMAOAY You want to take a passing comment about how nice it would be and turn it into mole hill and then a mountain. Weird and silly.

Edited January 31, 2008 by BigDUSA

[eltib 54]

LMAOAY You want to take a passing comment about how nice it would be and turn it into mole hill and then a mountain. Weird and silly.

 

 

I don't find any of Tom's logic "turning a mole hill into a mountain." Though you like talking about "TGs giving you blowjobs and licking your asshole" when someone turns up the heat on you.

 

Cambridge my ass.... I doubt if you even finished High School, or got a GED.

Edited January 31, 2008 by eltib

[CheshireTom 1,377]

I don't find any of Tom's logic "turning a mole hill into a mountain." Though you like talking about "TGs giving you blowjobs and licking your asshole" when someone turns up the heat on you.

 

Cambridge my ass.... I doubt if you even finished High School, or got a GED.

 

C'mon. You should know all the best spies went to Cambridge ........... Burgess, Philby, Mclean, Blunt. Maybe BigD was just brushing up on some tradecraft .............

[eltib 54]

C'mon. You should know all the best spies went to Cambridge ........... Burgess, Philby, Mclean, Blunt. Maybe BigD was just brushing up on some tradecraft .............

 

Sorry Tom.. I didn't know about those other guys.

Edited January 31, 2008 by eltib

[BigDUSA 71]

C'mon. You should know all the best spies went to Cambridge ........... Burgess, Philby, Mclean, Blunt. Maybe BigD was just brushing up on some tradecraft .............

 

John Cairncross was the fifth man.

[BigDUSA 71]

Two key Boeing Co. defense executives have been quietly transferred to the troubled 787 jetliner program, suggesting that problems with developing the plane could be worse than the company has revealed.

 

In what some analysts said was an unusual move, the two executives were placed on "special assignment" with the commercial aircraft division in Seattle in early January, two weeks before Boeing announced that production problems had forced a further delay in initial deliveries of the Dreamliner.

 

Boeing disclosed the transfers Friday as it announced that it was making a flurry of executive changes at its defense business.

 

The highly-touted and hot-selling 787 is now about nine months behind schedule and the first jets are not expected to reach airlines until early next year. Boeing has sold nearly 860 Dreamliners, which can carry about 250 passengers and fly farther while burning less fuel than the current generation of mid-size commercial jets.

 

"Problems are more severe than Boeing is letting on," said Scott Hamilton, an aviation consultant in Issaquah, Wash. "I suspect there will be more delays."

 

But Boeing spokesman Dan Beck said the move did not indicate anything more than one division helping out another. "They are two very skilled individuals who are supporting a program that is an important part of Boeing's future."

 

The two executives are John Van Gels, who was head of operations and supplier management for Boeing's Integrated Defense Systems, and Howard Chambers, who ran the company's Space and Intelligence Systems business, which includes the satellite-making operations in El Segundo.

 

Van Gels is considered Boeing's guru on managing the complex network of suppliers who make parts for military aircraft and weapons. Chambers is credited with turning around the company's C-17 military transport program in Long Beach and the satellite-making business.

 

They follow Pat Shanahan, another defense executive, who was tapped to lead the 787 program after the company announced the initial six-month delay last fall. Boeing has said that one of the main causes of the delays has been problems with major components provided by outside suppliers.

 

The transfers -- initially temporary assignments -- apparently have left a deep void at the defense units, which Boeing began filling this week. In Friday's announcement, the company said it was promoting several executives, many of them as a result of the transfers.

 

In addition to the executives, hundreds of engineers and technicians from its defense business have also been shifted to the Dreamliner program, Boeing sources said.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

So they have transferred a load of guys who are running years late in gaining certification for their replacement tanker over to the 787 programme. And promoted them?

[eltib 54]

So they have transferred a load of guys who are running years late in gaining certification for their replacement tanker over to the 787 programme. And promoted them?

 

Remember Humpty Dumpty?

 

All the Kings horses and all the kings men, couldn't put the 787 back together again!

 

 

If Shanahan couldn't fix it, what makes Boeing think Van Gels or Chambers will? Especially Van Gels since he's outsourcing AP and AR to India next year.

Edited February 3, 2008 by eltib

[wacmedia 277]

Two key Boeing Co. defense executives have been quietly transferred to the troubled 787 jetliner program, suggesting that problems with developing the plane could be worse than the company has revealed.

 

In what some analysts said was an unusual move, the two executives were placed on "special assignment" with the commercial aircraft division in Seattle in early January, two weeks before Boeing announced that production problems had forced a further delay in initial deliveries of the Dreamliner.

 

Hi,

 

They bet the farm on the 787 and it seems to be a losing bet.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

They bet the farm on the 787 and it seems to be a losing bet.

 

 

"The two executives were placed on Special Assignment ........"

 

 

I hope they had a a top secret, cryptographic, special intelligence, electronic intelligence and code word clearance for their special assignment.

[BigDUSA 71]

"The two executives were placed on Special Assignment ........"

I hope they had a a top secret, cryptographic, special intelligence, electronic intelligence and code word clearance for their special assignment.

 

[eltib 54]

 

Heh,

 

I just got done doing that watching a Nikita Denise porno......

Edited February 4, 2008 by eltib

[CheshireTom 1,377]

 

[eltib 54]

"The two executives were placed on Special Assignment ........"

I hope they had a a top secret, cryptographic, special intelligence, electronic intelligence and code word clearance for their special assignment.

 

[BigDUSA 71]

Heh,

 

I just got done doing that watching a Nikita Denise porno......

 

Other then paying for it I can imagine your hand gets quite a work out. How long does it take for a women in the US to figure out your a loser is it within the first two minutes or five minutes of you starting to talk to her?

[eltib 54]

Other then paying for it I can imagine your hand gets quite a work out. How long does it take for a women in the US to figure out your a loser is it within the first two minutes or five minutes of you starting to talk to her?

 

Heh....You should see that hand when I'm playing guitar... "People say "It moves so fast It looks like Hummingbird wings!"

 

Loser? I doubt it very much Big D. That's a term women toss around here regularly, when they don't get out of a man what they want. I'm in better shape than you'll ever be. It's the mentality of men like you, the reason they come to me, and say "You're smart for never marrying." Heck, even a female headhunter that tried getting me placed in a contract position told me I was "smart" last Tuesday.

 

I don't even see what the hulabaloo is over fucking a whore? It's cheaper to watch a porno, and I don't have to wear a condom to do it either. And if that doesn't float your boat I get them free to boot. And if I need a hooker, which is become less evident everyday, I know where to go 2 hours from here.

 

And as far as US women, I tell them I'm off the market... I've been through the gamut of dating and relationships, and I don't need it. I'm more at peace with myself too.

 

 

Guess I hit your raw nerve, by making a funny......

 

I also wonder what your wife would think when she found out you were whoring around in Thailand?

 

But she's either incredibly stupid, or naive.

 

Edited February 4, 2008 by eltib