The Hell Club Experience

[Evil Penevil 7,610]

This is follow-up to Inside the Hell Club , which gave a basic run-down of what first-time visitors can expect. If you've never visited Hell, you might want to check out the earlier thread.

 

Let's assume you have some knowledge of the fine establishment, but want to make sure you get the maximum out your time in Hell. I'll try to give some advice based on the five nights I spent in the company of Hell's belles as well as many, many days and nights with the ladies of Eden, the Bangkok club on which the Hell Club is modeled.

 

I'd also encourage other clients of Hell/Eden to contribute their advice and experiences as well. Each of us has his own particular twist on things and your individual approach may suggest some tips to a another hobbyist.

 

 

Understanding the Hell Club Concept

The Hell Club isn't a gogo or beer bar or a massage parlor. It's a brothel that features a classic lineup and some guys don't feel comfortable with that. They want to be able to grope - excuse me, socialize and flirt with - the girls for the price of a drink. It doesn't work that way at Hell/Eden. What goes on behind closed doors after the punter makes his choice is pretty much unrestricted at Hell/Eden, but prior to that, it's quite staid.

 

Also, there's no such thing as a bar fine at Hell/Eden. A B/F is a fee paid to establishments such as go go or beer bars to take the lady off premises. Fees for sexual services are a separate negotiation direct with the lady. At Hell/Eden, you pay a fee that covers the lady's (or ladies') sexual services. Tipping is customary and appreciated, but tips aren't asked for, nor will the service you get be in any way tied to a tip.

 

I appreciate that many punters prefer go gos or MPs because of the different dynamic involved in choosing a girl. It's an individual choice. What's important is to understand that the Hell isn't a gogo or beer bar and you'll be very disappointed if you act as if it were.

 

In-House Versus Take-Away, Porn Star Versus GFE

I count myself among the bigger fans of Eden, but I also understand that a 90-minute in-house session can feel somewhat contrived and mechanical. I don't experience it that way myself, although I appreciate that others can. There simply isn't enough time to establish real rapport and still have the standard Eden session with all it involves. Once you get to know a few of the girls, that feeling largely disappears and ladies become more spontaneous. But until the girls know you, they feel a bit of pressure to fill every second of the 90 minutes with something sexual. The ladies have told me that if they aren't sucking some guys' dicks 10 seconds after the wash up is finished, those guys will complain the girls were trying to "run out the clock" on them.

 

That type of customer doesn't want any chit-chat, just 90 minutes of intense sex. Also, some guys are adamant about coming at least twice, preferably three or four times. That requires very intense activity on the part of ladies, and again, not much time for small talk. An in-house session is 90 minutes and will never end any earlier unless you want it to. You can come an unlimited number of times at Eden, it's not like the places where if you come once, you are finished.

 

The ladies will normally ask you how many times you want to come. They do that to try to judge how active a session it will be. Obviously a guy who says he wants to come five or six times isn't looking for a GFE, but one who says "once, maybe twice," is probably expecting a slower-paced session that includes more talk and gentle foreplay.

 

It's also a good idea to ask for a lady who speaks relatively good English as your "lead lady." That way you can explain clearly to her what you want. The ladies of Eden are very sensitive to the wishes of customers, but they can't read minds. You have to explain (or show) them what you want. You have to be realistic, though. Ninety minutes doesn't allow for much of a GFE, it's more a porn-star experience. That's why I prefer take-away.

 

The best way to guarantee a mind-boggling two-lady session is to first take one lady overnight, get to know her a bit, then go back and ask her to pick a friend for the two-lady session. Of course, that depends as well on the thickness of your wallet, but what the hell, you're on holiday!

 

The fee per lady for a session outside Hell beginning at 10 p.m. and ending at 6.00 a.m. (overnight takeaway, eight hours) is 3,000 baht. If you want two ladies, the total cost would be 6,000 baht. Again, I emphasize this isn't a barfine. It is the fee for the ladies' services. It is a fixed price and not negotiable. Don't make a fool out of yourself by trying to bargain. What you choose to tip the lady on top of this fee is up to you.

 

Also, what you choose to do during that eight hours is up to you. If you want to take the lady to dinner, go to a bar or club, or head straight back to your hotel room, it's up to you. I've had some really over-the-top sessions (all-nighters with five, four, three ladies in addition to numerous one- and two- lady sessions). It has all been good, VERY GOOD. A lot of fun, joking, going to clubs and bars, then incredible sessions in the sack. The ladies who were deep throat specialists have rocked my universe (and my rocks) in particular.

 

You can read about one particularly memorable overnight session I had with two Eden ladies at Evil and the Angels of Eden, Part 1 and Evil and the Angels of Eden, Part 2

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is the best time to visit the Hell Club?

You'll have the widest choice of ladies if you're there around 12.40 p.m., but the service will be the same whatever time you visit the club. However, it is a popular place and luck plays a role. If don't see anything that strikes your fancy, just say "No thank you, I'll be back later." Or talk to the manager on duty about when the kind of girl you want - age, appearance, special skills, ability to speak English, etc - might be available. But if a lady does catch your eye, choose her immediately or someone else will.

 

 

 

 

What is the Hell Club policy on tipping?

Tips are always appreciated but never requested. At the end of the session, you're free to tip the ladies whatever you choose.

 

Is it possible to have a session with just one lady?

The in-house sessions at the Hell Club are two (or more) ladies with one man. For take away sessions, it's no problem to select just one lady.

 

After an overnight session, can a lady remain with me past 6.00 a.m?

That's entirely up to the lady. Keep in mind that she has only a few hours in which to go home,and then return to the Hell Club by 1:00 p.m. She may have family or other obligations that prevent her from remaining past 6.00 a.m.

 

Suppose I want a very special session or a service that not all ladies provide. How do I arrange that?

Speak with a member of the Hell management about your wishes before choosing your ladies. That way, you'll be sure that the ladies you select are willing to provide the services you want.

 

Security, Convenience and Satisfaction Guaranteed

While anal and other more exotic services are important to some punters, that's not the biggest reason the Hell Club and its inspiration, the Eden Club in BKK, have become so popular. Top-notch sexual sessions are combined with security, convenience and a guarantee of satisfaction to keep the customers cumming and coming back. Quite simply, Hell/Eden offers a unique experience that hasn't so far been duplicated anywhere in Thailand (or the world for that matter).

 

Bruce, the manager of BKK Eden, estimates that 60% to 70% of Eden's customers are resident ex-pats or business travelers who visit the Club on a regular basis. It's that\niche group which forms the core of Eden's clientele. The "Eden model" (or "Hell model") serves them well and they don't mind paying a bit extra for it, Everything exactly as you want it, no haggling over price, no risk of a disappointing, much less negative, experience. Should you by some chance have a problem, you simply speak to the manager and they'll straighten it out. If you're not satisfied, you don't pay.

 

 

The Hell/Eden experience is particularly good for those of us who value our own time more than a few hundred baht. Here's what I set up several weeks before I visited Thailand in January:

• Jan. 12 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 14 (10.00 a.m.) Overnight, then 24/7 session with two ladies from Eden Bangkok
  
• Jan. 14 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 19 (1.00 p.m.) Overnight sessions each night with between one and three ladies from Hell Club Pattaya
  
• Jan. 19 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 20 (12.45 p.m.) Overnight session with four ladies from Eden Bangkok
  
• Jan. 20 (10.00 p.m.) to Jan. 21 (12.45 p.m.) Overnight session with two ladies from Eden Bangkok
  

These arrangements took me about two minutes to put together (two emails to Marc, a follow-up phone call once I was in LOS). I wanted to visit Hell Club to meet Cerberus and Beelzebub (Jacko) and to say hello to Marc, but I didn't have to. I could have just phoned the Club and they would have sent the ladies to the condo where I was staying. That's what I often do in BKK - the Eden ladies meet me at my hotel room (or a restaurant, nightclub, bar, etc. - where ever is most convenient for me). No wasted time.

 

For me, that's an important part of the Hell/Eden service and in and of itself worth a premium price. I can set things up in advance via email or telephone and be guaranteed the ladies I want. I mostly visit Thailand on a combination of business and pleasure. and have neither the time nor the inclination to search for hours in bars, clubs or on the street for two or more ladies who may or may not give me a satisfactory session.

 

Another very significant factor for me is the fluency in English and social sophistication of the ladies of Eden. Some of them speak English a hell of a lot better than many university educated Thais, several even write excellent English. One year I took an Eden lady with me to a diplomatic reception in Bangkok hosted by the embassy of the People's Republic of China. Because she dressed appropriately, spoke such fluent English and had the social skills to manage a cocktail party setting, everyone believed she was indeed my

assistant.

 

She had had a long-term live-together relationship with a native English speaker and was thoroughly familiar with Anglo culture. The first time I took her to dinner, at the Huntsman Pub in the Landmark, she ordered steak and kidney pie! That was definitely a unique experience - a TG who took a very British dish as her first choice. If that girl had been dealt better cards in the game of life, I'm sure she could graduated magna cum laude from any university in the world. She's summa cum laude at Eden, but with a different set of skills. Other girls at Hell/Eden are similarly skilled in English. Several have even lived in an English-speaking country. I appreciate the fluency some Hell/Eden ladies have in English as much as their sexual skills. Communication is important to me. No matter how good-looking or enthusiastic in bed a girl is, it just doesn't seem right if I can't communicate with her easily. I wish I spoke Thai, but the chances of me having time to learn it are small. Therefore, a P4P provider's ability in English is crucial to me.

 

Does everyone need an escort who can accompany them to a diplomatic reception? Obviously not. But some punters do and for them, Hell/Eden is a great option. That's why Hell/Eden flourishes while others struggle. That will be what makes Hell a success as well – offering options to a niche group that hasn't been previously served well. Eden/Hell provides the service that's wanted with a minimum of hassle at a price the customer is willing to pay.

 

Because I have limited time for mongering during my visits to BKK, I prefer the "sure thing" of the Eden Club. Finding FLers or BGs who perform at the level of an Eden lady is rather rare, much less finding two or more who'll perform together. I don't get that much of a kick "hunting" for ladies on the street or in bars, there's too big a risk for major disappointment. Other guys feel exactly the opposite. They enjoy hunting, that may even be the most exciting part of the experience for them.

 

Moreover, I appreciate the security Eden provides. I like the fact I don't have to hang out with a lot of drunk punters in the bar. While I never expect to have any problems regarding the service at Hell, it's reassuring to know I can take any complaints to Cerberus and Beelzebub, rather than ex-cons with nicknames like Bubba and Cueball or ex-Spetsnaz named Boris and Yuri. I've got no idea what the Thai equivalents of Bubba and Boris would be named, but I'm sure they are just as short-tempered and have the same scars on their knuckles and prison tattoos on their forearms.

 

Evil

 

Edited April 11, 2007 by Evil Penevil

[papillon 695]

Spam.

 

Should be in the Business Section (imho).

[henryski 6]

 

sorry were abouts is the hell club

[Evil Penevil 7,610]

 

 

 

It is located on Soi LK Metro, which is an L-shaped street between Soi Diana Inn and Soi Buakhao. There are several interesting establishments on LK Metro which are worth a visit. This map may help:

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2007 by Evil Penevil

[bifcake 0]

What do the girls look like? Do you have any pictures? Is there a web site of the Hell/Eden clubs that features photos of their staff?

[Cerberus 97]

Hi bifcake,

 

There is a website for both the Eden Club in Bangkok and the Hell Club in Pattaya;

 

www.thehellclub.com

 

Whilst the Eden Forum can be found on Bangkok Tonight

 

Unfortunately Pictures of the ladies are not permitted on the internet but your welcome to call in at either establishment to view for yourself, without any pressure.

 

Cerberus

Edited April 11, 2007 by Cerberus

[papillon 695]

Hello,

 

The Gang's all here.

 

We just need Jacko now for a full house

[PattayaPete 527]

Just a word of warning. The OP asked me if he could post this and I said yes. He is not associated with the club.

 

For reasons unknown to me some people do not like Eden / Hell Club. If you don't like it fine, feel free to post your reasons. DO NOT feel free to get abusive. Abusive posts from anyone will be deleted and the poster's warning level will be raised. Please note if you are on a 75% warning an increase in your warning level will result in you being banned from the forum.

[talen 5]

From the way the OP's post is worded and arranged it sure looks like he's associated. I have nothing against Eden or Hell club and plan on paying Hell a visit in May....but I do have to say that looks more like an advertisement than just a tell tale report on his experience.

[bifcake 0]

Seems to me that Eden/Hell clubs are so famous that any kind of a search on Google leads to a discussion of the Hell/Eden club. As such, is there any point in advertising to an audience that's well aware of its existence and services? It seemed like the original post was made by perhaps a somewhat overenthusiastic patron.

[talen 5]

hmmm something is bothering me about the original post....I've read this before word for word.....what reminded me about it is this paragraph.

 

Another very significant factor for me is the fluency in English and social sophistication of the ladies of Eden. Some of them speak English a hell of a lot better than many university educated Thais, several even write excellent English. One year I took an Eden lady with me to a diplomatic reception in Bangkok hosted by the embassy of the People's Republic of China. Because she dressed appropriately, spoke such fluent English and had the social skills to manage a cocktail party setting, everyone believed she was indeed my

assistant.

 

I want to say it was on Stickmans site but I will have to check to be sure...but I do know this is out there somewhere

[Cerberus 97]

Bifcake,

 

You are of course right, mate and hopefully you will have noticed that other than responding to specific questions, we don't, advertise that is .

 

As for the board member Penevil, I believe it would be fair to say that he has been satisfied with the service he has received at both the Eden and Hell Clubs and is merely expressing that as a board member.

 

When I go and eat at Bruno's, Mata Hari, Gian's etc and post comments on their service they do not get accused of advertising, should my report be a glowing one.

 

However, if there is a question asked, what would be the reaction of that board member if we failed to respond.

 

respectfully, Cerberus

Edited April 11, 2007 by Cerberus

[bifcake 0]

Cerberus,

 

I've been following your replies on various topics and you handling members attacking you. From what I've seen, you guys seem to be on the up and up. Even though I've never visited either Eden or Hell clubs, judging by the way you handle yourself on these boards, I think I would feel pretty comfortable patronizing your establishment.

 

Some claim that you guys are too expensive and that similar services can be had for considerably less in other places. Whereas that may (or may not) be so, I feel that as long as you don't misrepresent what you offer or try to cheat your patrons or hit them with hidden fees, you don't deserve to be attacked. You don't have to be the cheapest guy on the block. You just have to be honest, and it seems to me that you are.

[Evil Penevil 7,610]

hmmm something is bothering me about the original post....I've read this before word for word.....what reminded me about it is this paragraph.

 

I want to say it was on Stickmans site but I will have to check to be sure...but I do know this is out there somewhere

 

 

 

Talen-

 

Almost all the longer articles I write get posted on multiple sites, sometimes by myself, sometimes by others. People have remembered reading a piece I posted on one board and asked me to post it on another. You certainly can have read that paragraph elsewhere, but not on Stickman's site (although other articles of mine do appear on Stick's site). I have written on several occasions, in different versions, about my experiences with Thumper at the diplomatic reception.

 

 

 

Evil

 

[talen 5]

Talen-

 

Almost all the longer articles I write get posted on multiple sites, sometimes by myself, sometimes by others. People have remembered reading a piece I posted on one board and asked me to post it on another. You certainly can have read that paragraph elsewhere, but not on Stickman's site (although other articles of mine do appear on Stick's site). I have written on several occasions, in different versions, about my experiences with Thumper at the diplomatic reception.

 

 

 

Evil

 

 

That was it I couldn't find it but I did read about Thumper just couldn't remember where....Also didn't realize that you were the original writer...mystery solved

[kev0184 12]

i think its fine, even if the original author is somehow connected to the club, i had looked up both sites on the net, but had never realised you could take the lady for the night.

 

talen, i dont play out much now, but i think if you hold on to your visit till after the 3d i will give it a go, as on our 1st visit to soi6 we were both upstairs in 5mins, this should be even quicker. hehehe

Edited April 11, 2007 by kev0184

[Tengotodo 52]

I am one of those who prefer "hunting". I love the idea of leaving behind an "8" because I know a 9 or 10 is out there somewhere waiting for me to BF her! mmmmmmmm. Plus, I like to move around while (and before) I BF. After I finish with a lady I usually pass out or go to bed.

 

I went to the Hell Club and everything is as the OP stated. Very upfront and honest. The only problem I experienced is that the girls were average looking at best. I know, I know, I know.. It's the "service" you pay for (and I'm sure it's outstanding in everyway). But personally, I would rather have an abosolutely young and gorgeous Thai face giving me an above-average BJ than an outstanding BJ from an average-looking girl. Other people may find the gilrs in the Hell Club to be very attractive. Up to you!

[Cerberus 97]

Tengotodo,

 

A fair and personal opinion, and as I have said till my throat is sore , we are not for everyone. I fully understand where you are coming from, and appreciate both your honesty and your adult and fair manner in expressing it.

 

Cerberus

[Evil Penevil 7,610]

It seemed like the original post was made by perhaps a somewhat overenthusiastic patron.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's me - a somewhat overenthusiastic patron!

 

 

 

Tentogodo-

 

You make perfectly valid points. There is nothing in your post I'd disagree with. Not everyone will want to go to Hell/Eden, not everyone who does go will like it. That's natural. Hell/Eden is simply one more variation on the LOS P4P scene that will appeal to some and not to others.

 

For those who don't like or don't want or can't hunt for ladies, it is a good option. That is the main point I'm making.

 

Evil

 

[stevoman 2]

I am one of those who prefer "hunting". I love the idea of leaving behind an "8" because I know a 9 or 10 is out there somewhere waiting for me to BF her! mmmmmmmm. Plus, I like to move around while (and before) I BF. After I finish with a lady I usually pass out or go to bed.

 

I went to the Hell Club and everything is as the OP stated. Very upfront and honest. The only problem I experienced is that the girls were average looking at best. I know, I know, I know.. It's the "service" you pay for (and I'm sure it's outstanding in everyway). But personally, I would rather have an abosolutely young and gorgeous Thai face giving me an above-average BJ than an outstanding BJ from an average-looking girl. Other people may find the gilrs in the Hell Club to be very attractive. Up to you!

 

Well Mate you should be able to stand on your Balcony in early July and get a free show!

[makavelli 0]

A good friend on mine is always talking about visiting Hell club this Summer when he is in Pattaya. Although he is not fully attatched (Married) to his g/f they r very close and spend alot of time together. My question is, How discrete r the girls after u have had a session with them?

 

My mate does'nt want to be walking along walking-street or partying in Lucifers with his g/f and for one of the Hell girls to come upto him and say great anal session the other day, or in words of that effect!

 

Cheers.

[Cerberus 97]

Hi makavelli,

 

Total discretion assured, in truth the girls would be more concerned that he would approach them You are also unlikely to meet any of our ladies in the areas you mention.

 

Hell Club ladies have private lives away from the club and like to keep their work and leisure time totally separate.

 

Regards,

 

Cerberus

[Siam Sam 964]

Hello,

 

The Gang's all here.

 

We just need Jacko now for a full house

 

[torrenova 644]

Hello,

 

The Gang's all here.

 

We just need Jacko now for a full house

Had a bit of a laugh at that comment.

 

Seems a few connected or whatever are continually bashing the drum. Also seems sometimes that they answer each other's posts as if they were all sitting around a computer at the same time (or 3 computers etc.).

 

Whatever, the place for this is here, in the business section and not cluttering up the members area like the other umpteen posts which are continually resurrected by people supposedly not connected with the place.

[Mont 0]

Just a word of warning. The OP asked me if he could post this and I said yes. He is not associated with the club.

 

For reasons unknown to me some people do not like Eden / Hell Club. If you don't like it fine, feel free to post your reasons. DO NOT feel free to get abusive. Abusive posts from anyone will be deleted and the poster's warning level will be raised. Please note if you are on a 75% warning an increase in your warning level will result in you being banned from the forum.

 

Please point out the abusive post for me, I seem to have missed it.