Sybarite

Funny that, but the dozens of empty seats on recent visits seem to suggest that you were in a desperate need for all the customers that you can lay your hands on...and then some.

I was walking along Soi 15 last December. I wasn't intending to go into Misty's but there was a Thai guy outside saying repeatedly " Lesbian show...come see lady show...lesbian show...come see lady show". But he was almost whispering it to himself, under his breath. I barely made out what he was saying. I think he would have got more customers going in if he had put on a cockney accent and hollered something like "Dirty slappers at work. Inside...lezzie show! Come have a look mate". Anyway I went in and yes there was lesbian, oily show of sorts happening. But the place was empty and whilst I supped on the draft puke in my glass I realised with growing amazement that the lesbian show was doing absolutely nothing for me. How could they make something as genuinely sexy as a lesbian show into something so completely uninteresting. It wasn't so much that the girls that were doing the show weren't so attractive...agreed that didn't help matters...but they just seemed to going through the motions rather than trying to put on a decent show. One drink and I was gone!

Mistyrious Pattaya Blog site eh?... Well here's a 'miss' report from a genuine member of this forum who visited recently

My very first trip was a four day excursion from India so I only took a small bag and carried it on the plane. I just hope that there is no one who comes on this forum to confess that they have caught herpes from unprotected sex or have been hospitalised because of a motor cycle crash and god forbid they weren't wearing a helmet. I can just imagine the outcry from the 'I told you so' brigade. If you take risks and nothing happens then you are liable to keep doing so until something does happen. It's human nature. I know plenty of experienced travellers who say to me, forget about those official check in times - you don't really need all that time at the airport in in practise. They turn up for all flights with 90 minutes or less to go and they have never missed a flight - yet. Lots of guys don't wear a helmet or a condom and nothing has ever happened to them - yet. If you know that guys thousands of guys regularly take risks with their lives in that way why do you find it so hard to believe that someone could take the risk and not follow to the letter the advice about getting to the airport with 3 hours to spare?

I'm glad I started this thread. Although this was the first time that I have ever missed my flight, and it came as a monsterous shock at the time, there have been many occasions before when I was in serious danger of doing so but things just happened to work out somehow and I scraped on to the plane just in time. I can remember the first time that I went to Thailand and I cut things really fine and I was sprinting down corridors with the public address system calling for the one remaining passenger to report to the gate as the plane was leaving. The guys had to re-open the gate as they had closed it one minute before and told the plane that they could take off without me. There have been other close calls since then but 11 flights to Thailand later I still had not missed a flight. This just made me complacent and perhaps I was in need of a wake up call. Yes, I know that I should report to check in 2 to 3 hours before the flight as a minimum but people don't always play safe and follow the guidance to the letter - this is properly a bad example but if people did not take silly risks then no one would bare back.

Mr T. vs. Mr. Toon? One collects you from the airport...the other refuses to go to the airport.

Well I didn't want to prolong this debate but I just thought that I would clear up this last query of yours. Just to make it clear - although I only ordered 4 drinks another 4 were ordered 'on my behalf'. As I mentioned earlier... Then you queried my observation that Mistys never ever seems to be busy whenever I have visited. I had said.. You not surprisingly disagreed.. Well, don't just take my word for it...this is what LBJ observed when he popped in to see the effects of your latest 'Mistys Madness' campaign, only just 3 days ago.

What about my 'girlfriends' who work at Baby Dolls?

Forget the financial costs, it's the thoughts about what you could have been doing if you weren't stuck at home that really hurt.

How are you going to do all that if the girls refuse to meet any of the guy's gaze and carry on dancing with their nose in the air as if they are staring out over the great unwashed...you're going to look a bit silly waving frantically at them to attract their attention whilst they still continue to ignore you

I'm giving some thought at the moment as to asking MM to close this thread. I thought it would serve as a timely reminder to others that no matter how many times you have flown to Thailand you can't afford to become complacent and start rolling up near to the cut off time for check-in...confident that you can blag your way on to the plane if you are late. After all, no one wants you to miss your flight to the land of sin do they?! But people keep mentioning the matter in other threads that I am posting in...and I am understandably getting more than a little hacked off.

If it was 0 baht I would still be complaining why they weren't now giving us money to take the girls away

Alan, I seem to remember about a year ago that it used to be 200 baht after 2am, not 250 baht, and then 100 baht after 3am till close

Here!

Yep, I was hoping that you wouldn't see this thread! You got me the best deal on a flight from London to Bangkok ever...and I only went and bolloxed it up.

PiSseduP bar owner, It is one of the oldest tricks in the book, when an (ex-)customer raises a serious complaint about a bar to try and divert the issue by making out that the complainant had never visited the bar. The total on my bill was running at 900 baht after 20 minutes, even though I had only ordered 4 drinks. It obviously was an electronic itemised bill otherwise I would have said that I had added up the total of the bills to find out what the grand total was. During the 20 minutes I was there I didn't notice them take away the itemised bill and put it back into the bin with 4 more unauthorised drinks added on to it - including drinks for the two mamasans. Whether there were chits or not to accompany the itemised bill doesn't really matter. Your 'large and loyal' customer base was not in evidence that night or on any of the other nights that I had visited on previous visits to Thailand - one of the striking memories of anyone visiting your bar are the many empty seats. Maybe these loyal customers are 'armchair' like Papillon. Other bars like Baby Dolls and FLB who think about their customers all year round and take them seriously when they make complaints are the ones who develop customer bases. It is only the 3rd string bars that realise that times are getting grim who then rush out desperate campaigns in panicky attempts to get customers back into the bar - customers who they have long forgotten about...and who as a result have long gone. A happy hour, to get customers into the bar early, which finishes at 10pm. How original is that? Most people don't hit the bars until 10pm! Maybe the idea is to get them drunk early so that they are then sitting targets for the money hungry mamsasns and helpers. It is the very lack of this loyal customer base which drives these 3rd string bars into the deperate 'smash and grab' tactics. Throughout the evening the bar has very few customers who are only buying themselves and not the girl's drinks A customer eventually comes in halfway through the evening who looks as though he is starting to buy some drinks. The mamsasans and the girls converge As many drinks as they can are dumped onto his bill in the shortest possible time, before he notices, knowing that it is impossible for him to get them off Of course the customer is unlikely to return but he has helped to make up for some of the short fall of the evening's takings and hey, there will be another one like him along soon if the bar waits long enough. You may not 'lose sleep' over another customer who has been done over but I believe in letting people know so that they don't lose sleep when they are in Pattaya getting annoyed how their evening took a bit of a sour note because they were dumped on in one of the bars they visited.

No I don't live in Southall. This was just another rubbish Pillion post. Flick through the other 6000 or so if you have the time. Like for most people, time is money, and I hate sitting at an airport for an hour or two with little to do. I had to rush from work and so wanted to waste as little time as possible. I wasn't aware that with many airlines you could book seats on line. This particular airline offered this option when you booked the tickets however I thought with most other airlines you would have to wait until you get to the airport (although a few allow you to check in on line 24 hours before the flight). The main purpose of arriving 2 or 3 hours before the flight for me was to ensure that you get the best seat possible. As I had already had my seat allocated, this made me more relaxed about my arrival time at the airport. Yes, they state that you need to be at the airport 2 to 3 hours before however in practise... People regularly turn up with an hour to an hour and a half to go on international flights and still get on their flight as most airlines have a 45 minute cut off for check in for international flight. If there are queues for check - in you can normally tell your departure time to one of the attendants and go straight to the front of any check in queue to be checked in immediately The airport staff do not want you to miss the flight anymore than you do and will bend over backwards e.g. allow you to walk on with luggage that would normally need to be checked in. However, having not missed a flight before, this is just a timely reminder not to FUCK with the airlines because international flights are not something to be fucked with. Also, take extra care with promotional fares. If it was a normal fare then the guy at the airport sales desk could have booked me on to the next available flight for that airline for a smallish charge of £75. However, as my fare was promotional it was completely restricted - so no changes or refunds. Travelling back from the airport with heavy luggage even though your plane is still on the tarmac is soul destroying and is something I will be sure to avoid repeating...

What's that % indicator under the flag on the left hand side of your screen reading at the moment? Pretty close to triple figures I would guess right now, hmmn? Do you want to be posting again with 'otherway' and his mates?

Anyone reading this thread can immediately see that at no time did I make any claims about the door security, even when enticed to do so, only save to state the obvious - that Thai staff are unlikely to let you waltz out the door without paying the bill in full even if you say you dispute it. There have been numerous stories over the years, including some over the past couple of weeks, of punters getting beaten up when they disputed the bill at bars and left without paying. I am not saying that would definitely happen at Club Mistys but I definitely would not want to find this out the hard way. I have been in bars before where I have bought more drinks than I originally intended and then reflected afterwards that maybe I should have not spent so much on drinks. That I can live with - and I can't guarantee that will not happen again. However this was a case where staff including the mamasans ordered drinks without asking me and put the chits into my drinks bin without me realising. OK, I checked after 20 minutes - not really a long time - but by that time it was too late. In most, perhaps all other bars, even Windmill where the girls are more drinks hungry than most, the staff will check and even double check that you have said yes before ordering the drinks. Here, the mamasans waved a couple of girls over who said hello before wandering off and whilst I was being distracted, chits were put into my bin for those girls plus for the mamasans. As BOTH mamasans were amongst the miscreants - what was the point of complaining to them? I had been to your bar a couple of times before but never laid eyes on you - do you carry round a placard or badge with the term 'manager' on it for all to see? I didn’t know you were there and judging from your responses to this thread it would have been pointless complaining to you anyway. Responsible management would have been to show some willingness to accept the possibility that the customer could be right and that there could be a problem with the bar e.g. the staff are too eager to put chits in bins before checking that the customer has agreed to the purchase. Even if readers don't believe every word of what I said happened - if you had at least made assurances that you would look into the matter then they would have been re-assured that if there has been a problem raised about your bar then you are the sort of manager who would look into it as a matter of course. When I first posted about the incident I was prepared to let the matter lie and put it down to experience. However later on in the thread when you apologised to some other poster, who it appears you may have known personally, over his loss of a few baht but found it hard to do the same to myself when I had suffered far greater loss - this has just made me determined to mention this incident at every opportunity that I have. Why should you immediately accept his story and not assume that he was mistaken but refute mine? All you have got now is someone who is a frequent poster on this and other Pattaya forums and blog sites who is determined to relate the problems that he encountered at your bar at every opportunity possible. The question remains as to why should I choose to say these things about Club Mistys when I have had hundreds of posts and commented about dozens of bars without saying anything similar. The only other bar where this has happened to me has been X-Zone but I have not posted about that incident. Personally, I think it is the duty of all responsible board members to point out all incidents where they feel that staff of a bar have acted unscrupulously - in case this is an ongoing practise. This is so that others can be more careful when they go there so as to avoid suffering the same loss or - if they want to avoid the stress of having to continually monitoring their bin - choose to drink elsewhere.

Guess where I should have been right now guys. Yes, Pattaya - getting ready to head out to the bright lights and the go go bars for the evening. Unfortunately, last night UK time I missed my night time flight from London to Bangkok yesterday which would have got me into Thailand by early evening and I could have hit the bars straight from the airport. What is even more galling is the fact that this flight was the lowest priced ever that I have ever booked for Thailand at £350 (only £74 of this was for the fare with the rest taxes) as it was a special promotion. The cheapest flight that I had flown on my previous visits was £450. The airline involved allowed you to book your seats in advance over the internet so I had thought that I could avoid turning up 2 to 3 hours early in order to get a good seat as I had already carefully chosen my window seats one row from the emergency exit for each leg of the journey But I cut it too fine as I arrived 10 minutes after check-in had closed just and it was a shock to see the whole of the check-in counter with its lights off and nobody there. This particular airline closed their check-in with 60 minutes to go unlike 45 minutes with some other airlines. As their flights at this time of year are not that busy the check in staff did not hang around. There was no one to ask whether I had the option of walking on with my luggage I went to the sales desk and the guy tried to book me on the next evening’s flight but then told me that he couldn't. The flight that I had booked, as it was a special promotion, was completely non-changeable and non-refundable. It was heart breaking to have lugged all that heavy luggage all the way across town and then to lug it all the way back home without getting on the flight - when I knew that round about that time I could have been on a flight being cosseted by lovely air stewardesses with the promise of even greater female attention to come in the next few hours. I checked with the airline office in the morning and they said that their cheapest flight over the next couple of weeks was £479. They could refund me the taxes from my missed flight however after taking into account the £74 cost of the missed flight the difference between the cost of this flight and my original flight of £350 would be £205 extra. It is really disheartening to think that being 10 minutes late could cost me that amount of money. Being money conscious these days I really hate the thought of wasting £205. This is the first time with several dozens of flights that I have missed a flight – and to Thailand of all places. If this had happened to me a couple of years ago I would have been besides myself and would probably have made a bolt through security insisting that I got on the flight as it was still 45 minutes to take off. However, given that my ardour for Thailand has cooled a little over the past couple of years I wasn’t as disappointed as I thought I would be. Even so I still had that empty feeling as if I had missed out big time especially as I had been abstaining from any form of sexual activity over the past couple of weeks so that I would be ready for Pattaya. The thing also is I am in the middle of changing jobs and starting my new job at the beginning of November. I am on leave from the office until then so this would have been the ideal time to go. But on the other hand I am due to go to Thailand again in December and I am thinking that the £276 in refunded taxes I am due could be put towards the expenditure of a couple of nights or so on my next trip in Thailand – especially as it is going to be high season then with high prices. Yes, I know some of the responses would be of the sort that I am a tw*t and that I should not have missed the flight in the first place especially given what was at stake - but I am just wondering if anyone else has missed their flight before and what you would do in my circumstances - get on the first available plane? Be sensible and rather than book a more expensive flight, save your money for next time?

MM I have now retracted the comment - perhaps it makes sense if you can remove your quotation of the comment as well? I thought it was fair comment myself at the time but I have enormous respect for your judgement in these matters. I will use this thread as guidance for any other similar situations where I feel that I have been hard done by when visiting a bar Of course , please let me know if you think I need to moderate any other similar posts. Syba

Do they take their uniforms with them?...

It's not that difficult

I was busy mentally preparing your obituary....how you would have been the first of many other bars that would have been forced to make threads like this in the not too distant future...but then I read the rest of the post So I'll be back to claim the few drinks that you still owe me...

I can be often seen having a quick seafood fried rice meal here - for around 80 baht - at around 3am when all the go go bars have finished and before I hit the discos for the rest of the night.