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Hi, You are right. This thread has gone OT.

Hi, Who hijacked it ?

Hi, This guy has a similar opinion of the €. https://larouchepac.com/20150618/dump-londons-phony-debts-glass-steagall-euro-bankrupt-not-drachma With the Greek Parliament's Debt Truth Commission having just found Greece's entire debt to the Troika to be "illegitimate and odious," EIR Founding Editor and economist Lyndon LaRouche yesterday called attention to the "overall picture on euro debt." LaRouche said: "You cannot sustain the euro system, it is intrinsically bankrupt," "If you base a 'debt deal' on that system — any 'debt deal,' that deal will fail. The fraud of what Wall Street and London banks are calling 'their debt assets', has to be eliminated, because populations — not only the Greeks — are being beaten down by worthless claims. Cancel those claims.

Hi, I think some of the posters on this thread are On the Square.

Hi, Good post, Gary. If I said that they'd say I was wacko. It's not a good position to be in when the Chinese can destroy you if they want to. As Jacko says they own a lot of the debt so can pull the plug anytime they want. That's why I think the bankers have chosen war. It's started already but has not gone nuclear, yet !

Hi, A little of what he said. I think it is hard to misinterpret what he was refering to. "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know." For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

Hi, We are not living in times where such jokes are appropriate.

Hi, The fundamental truth that people, especially Americans, seem to ignore is the financial position the Fed is in. If you understand the position they are in it explains most of their moves. One can tell who are not the pawns of the bankers. They will be attacked and vilified and eventually the troops will moved in. JFK decided to take them on and voila ! America needs a JFK like figure at this point in history.

Hi, The most likely users of that type of device is the bankers. A false flag in US is quite possible with the blame laid at anothers door in order to bring the people on side. It's happened before and is the most likely scenario. I have faith that patriotic Americans will prevent that happening. Hope I'm right.

Hi, When the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact disappeared NATO should have been abolished as well. The West gave promises to Russia that have not been honoured. NATO is now moving in to countries that are on Russia's front porch. JFK faced up to the Soviet Union in Cuba and I think Putins moves are similar to what JFK did in that situation. If Russia moved troops and Nuclear missiles into Mexico would you expect your Gov to do nothing about it ? As you know I look at the Big Picture and I expect the Fed to be history soon. IMO the US is going the way of the Soviet Union, and Texas is making its own arrangements. http://thewealthwatchman.com/texas-fires-a-massive-volley-in-the-fight-for-honest-money/ Texas was on the verge of taking steps that would put their state on the cusp of a silver and gold revolution. Well, over the weekend, we got some pretty unreal news on that front. As on Friday(June 12th), Texas Governor, Greg Abbot, finally signed the bill which would codify the establishment of a state-run depository for gold and silver bullion! The First Bail-In But first though, let’s remember one thing that prompted this bill’s passage. Everyone makes the mistake of calling Cyprus the first, major financial “bail-in”, where depositors’ wealth was seized without recourse…but that’s not exactly true. If we’re simply talking about depositors losing their true wealth, due to being considered “unsecured creditors”, then the first major instance of that occurring was not in Cyprus, but somewhere else entirely… For you see, this article was quite right: MF Global bullion depositors did indeed lose their allocated gold and silver bullion during that bankruptcy, as their receipts for their metals were not honored. For far too long, people have had a false sense of security about the safety of their cash in the banking system, due to “guarantees” from the FDIC(which as we’ve covered before, will not be honored in the next crisis whatsoever). However, those guarantees cover cash and cash repayments only. They do not pertain to precious metal holdings within those same banks at all. To my knowledge, no one in any federal agency, is directly required by law, to make privately-owned, specie payments whole again, after a bankruptcy.

Hi, Read about Victoria Nuland and the takeover in Ukraine ?. When that happened Putin had no option but to take over Crimea. Remember that Russia has not bombed Syria, Afghanistan,Iraq or Libya amongst others. We have. Russia is not arming ISIS while pretending to fight them. We are. Russia did not kill thousands of people on 9/11......

Hi, I can see no push for war from Putin either. Russia is a formidable enemy who. with respect to all the others, beat the Nazis in WW2. Russia lost 20 million people in that war. They have my respect for doing that. US is financially bust which is why the bankers, who control US at this time, are pushing for war.

Hi, Sorry, they are Scottish.

Hi, This type of behaviour would never happen in England.

Hi, I don't pay great attention to any of these jokers as I assume they are all bent. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/03/uefa-president-qatar-bid-bin-hammam There are extensive trade links between France and Qatar, including the purchase of Paris St Germain by QSI, and in early 2012 Platini's son Laurent was employed by a Qatari sportswear firm it also owned.

Hi, Good idea, but hard to implement. Lots of charities are run by the great and the good who take massive salaries for themselves.

Hi, I think all pro sport administration is pretty dodgy. Europe could do it but choose not to. Bit like the bankers who are scamming much more than FIFA. None of those guys are doing any time and not likely to. The bankers own the politicians, like Blatter owned the Federations in Africa and ASIA.

Hi, One would think that with all the dodgy pro sport, and Wall St, in the US they would have enough on their hands.

Hi, Well done to those who picked Chelsea. Mark Hughes had a good season with Stoke and ended with a great win over Liverpool. Nigel Pearson is another manager who enhanced his reputation with Leicester. Pardew and Pulis had good seasons as well, as of course did Gary Monk at Swansea. I think Brendan Rodgers and Liverpool are the losers this year. He hasn't handled Gerrard and Sterling well and I dont feel he will still be in charge this time next year.

Hi, I don't think there would be much outcry if that happened. I think most people are sick to death of Newcastle.

Hi, Big day tomorrow for Newcastle. Can they stay up or will Man Utd do their old captain a favour ?

Hi, I went there when the first A380 arrived. Nice to see the Singapore A380 coming in.

Hi, Well at least you're back in the CL next season. United had the first half but Arsenal finished the game stronger and could have had the 3 points at the finish. Man City clain 2nd place with a good away win against Swansea. Third relegation place still in the balance, I think most neutrals will be hoping Newcastle grab that spot.

Hi, Arsenal make the trip up to Manchester to decide the CL places behind Chelsea. The third relegation may be decided as well. Season cominf to a dull end as most decisions decided. Pogba must still be a thorn in Man Uniteds side. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/babb/11601841/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-mocked-by-Gianluigi-Buffon-for-allowing-Paul-Pogba-to-leave.html Sir Alex Ferguson mocked by Gianluigi Buffon for allowing Paul Pogba to leave Juventus goalkeeper's verdict on decision to let midfielder leave United? "We thought they maybe needed glasses." “I have been in football many years but the decision of Sir Alex Ferguson and Manchester United to not play Pogba and let him leave is one of the strangest I have ever seen. After just a few training sessions we saw how good he was. It cannot have been the same player they saw in Manchester - we thought they maybe needed glasses.” Ouch.

Hi, Too true. Why trust the teams ?