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Boeing Pulls Back on 787-3 After Losing Last Order (Update2) Jan. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Boeing Co. said it’s reviewing plans to build a shorter-range version of its 787 Dreamliner jet after All Nippon Airways Co., the only remaining customer for the model, changed its order to another variant. “The market viability of the 787-3 is currently being assessed,” Boeing spokesman Marc Birtel said in an e-mail. “As a result of ANA’s order conversion from the 787-3 to the 787-8, there are no longer any 787-3s in the backlog.” All Nippon said today it is replacing an order for 28 of the 787-3 short-range jets with the longer-range 787-8 model. All Nippon was the first airline to order the Dreamliner, with an initial order in 2004 for 30 short-range and 20 long-haul versions. The decision brings the Tokyo-based carrier’s total 787-8 order to 55. The 787-3 was designed to carry as many as 330 passengers as far as 3,050 nautical miles, compared with as many as 250 passengers and as far as 8,200 nautical miles for the 787-8, according to Chicago-based Boeing’s Web site. Boeing diverted resources from the short-haul model in 2008 as it struggled to move the long-distance jet toward production. Last year, Boeing had 83 outright cancellations for the delayed 787, leaving it with 851 Dreamliners in the backlog. Initially meant to fly in August 2007 and reach customers in May 2008, the plane was delayed five times because of hurdles with new composite plastics and an outsourced supply chain that stretched to 135 sites around the world. Dreamliner Delivery Boeing now says it will deliver the first Dreamliner in the fourth quarter of this year to All Nippon. The 787-3 was specifically designed for Japanese customers and only received a total of 43 orders. The Dreamliner remains Boeing’s most popular new-plane sales campaign ever. “It’s a question of resources and priorities,” said Yan Derocles, an aerospace analyst at Oddo Securities in Paris. “They had to concentrate their resources on the version of the plane most in demand so they can take care of all the problems and make sure customers are satisfied.” In June 2009, Japan Airlines Corp., Asia’s largest carrier by sales, also switched its order for 13 short-haul 787s for a long-range version of the plane. Airline spokesman Sze Hunn Yap said at the time that while JAL would have liked to have the shorter-range variants as well, it couldn’t afford to wait. ‘Better Solution’ “Simply put, getting aircraft into their hands for earlier delivery was a better solution for them,” Boeing’s marketing chief, Randy Tinseth, wrote of All Nippon on his blog today. Boeing fell 60 cents, or 1 percent, to $61.60 at 4:15 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. The shares have gained 38 percent in the past 12 months, outpacing the 27 percent gain in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Aerospace & Defense Index. Separately today, Macquarie Capital Inc. downgraded its rating on Boeing to “neutral” from “outperform,” saying the stock has gained too much compared with peers and that fourth- quarter earnings, due to be released Jan. 27, could provide “a dose of reality.” Rob Stallard, an analyst with Macquarie, wrote that Boeing’s cash flow is “particularly challenged” and he expects “only cautious optimism about the current demand environment for new aircraft.”

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Boeing production rises but sales slide in 2009 The jetmaker won a net total of 142 new orders for the year Air Transportation Industry From Tribune news services January 8, 2010 Boeing steadily increased its production pace through 2009 and delivered 481 airplanes, but the recession and accompanying airline crisis brought a collapse in new sales. The jetmaker won a net total of 142 new orders for the year. That's the fewest since 125 orders in 1994, according to spokesman Jim Proulx, and compares with 662 net orders in 2008. In 2007, Boeing's record order year, the company won 1,413 net orders. Although Boeing won 263 gross orders last year, the total was reduced by 121 cancellations. Those included 83 canceled orders for the 787 Dreamliner, which flew at the end of the year, about 28 months behind its original schedule. Randy Tinseth, Boeing vice president of marketing for commercial airplanes, attributed the drop to the decline in air traffic for passengers and freight. He noted that the International Air Transport Association predicts airlines worldwide will have lost a total of $11 billion in 2009. "The order numbers reflect the challenges of the market," Tinseth said. Although sales were low in 2009, the delivery total is up from 375 delivered in 2008, when production was hit by a two-month strike by the Machinists union. Compared to 2007, the previous full year of production, the delivery figure is still up by 40 jets. Prospects for the year ahead are for continued low sales and for reduced production rates, in line with slumping airplane demand. Tinseth said "2010 will be another challenging year in the marketplace." He said airlines likely won't become profitable until 2011, and Boeing doesn't expect much of a recovery in sales until the following year. Boeing, which has a backlog of 3,375 aircraft, had said it would deliver 480 to 485 aircraft in 2009. A target for 2010 will be provided when it releases fourth-quarter earnings Jan. 27, the company said. Copyright © 2010, Chicago Tribune

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Have I changed anything within the story? LMAO at your comparison.

Thank you for your response.

Not interested in changing quotes. Only internet jerk offs pull that lame shit.

Thank you for illustrating my point. If the quote can be made up or changed then the system is worthless.

Recently two BM made up quotes attributed to me. Today another guy modified a quote I made. Can the forum software be modified to not allow any changes?

Boeing has bustling week with 46 new orders Although the Boeing Co. did not start 2009 strong with jet orders, the company is ending the year on a high note, logging 46 new orders in the last week. Among Boeing’s new orders is a request for 11 787 Dreamliners from an undisclosed customer. It’s the first firm order that Boeing has received for its delayed Dreamliner since putting the first 787 in the air Dec. 15. The new orders bring Boeing’s net tally for 2009 to 141, through Dec. 22, according to its Web site which is updated every Thursday. Boeing won’t provide another update on orders until January, the company said Thursday. Boeing still trails rival jet maker, Airbus, for commercial aircraft orders this year. At the end of November, Airbus had 194 net orders and 225 gross orders. Both manufacturers have logged in a number of order cancellations this year as airlines scale back expansion plans in light of declining air travel. Boeing said Thursday that it received six cancellations over the past week: three 737s and three 777s. In total, the Chicago-based company has lost 118 orders in 2009. Included in the new orders recorded this week is the previously disclosed request from Japan’s All Nippon Airways for five 777s and five 767s. Boeing also received an order for one 737 from the U.S. Air Force and orders for 24 737s from undisclosed customers. Boeing’s tally does not reflect a request from United Airlines for 25 787s. That order was announced by the U.S. carrier in early December but has yet to be finalized. Boeing’s fuel-efficient 787 drummed up tremendous interest from airlines, but delays have caused some carriers to cancel their Dreamliner orders. With the 787’s first flight, Boeing began its flight test program, which will require round-the-clock operation in order to gain approval by federal aviation authorities in time to deliver the first 787 late next year to ANA.

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I agree but the fastest time I ever got out of a airport was at DM. They bussed us to immigration, no line, my bag was #2 off the plane and walked through customs. This took a grand total of 15 minutes.

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Once again you make excuses for another of your life's failures and there's been so many. Who cares if your so incompetent in your life you can't get up for finals?

So you took a history course in school but you still got it wrong about the Marshall Plan.

Seems their are at least two forum members who didn't sleep through history lessons.

Why do you ask? Could it be your engaging in thread fucking?

Like I said the truth hurts. Poor tommie so sad.