Bringing 42" LCD into LOS

[hybrid 1]

Hi Guys .

bringing in a 2nd hand 42" LCD TV at the end of the month for personal use ..

10 months old .. purchased in UK ..

i'm trying to find out how much duty to expect to be clobbered with at the airport ..

i have asked at the airport and embassy and get different versions .. but no answers

 

Emirates airlines say.

no problem briniging it in .. duty should be zero as its 2nd hand and personal use , however may be worth adding a few scratchs to make sure it looks used well

 

UK Hull Consulate say.

there could be duty , but no idea on rates.

 

LOS airport (cannot spell suuanpoon or whatever its called )

asked them last week on outbound flight at the VAT desk.

maybee duty , may not be duty, cannot say how much maybee would be untill i'm there with it !

but suggested sell it in UK and buy new on in BKK .. LOL

 

UK London embasy.. most unhelpfull, not interested

 

anyone know the answer .. no sell it buy a new suggestions please .

[js007 795]

Just out of curiosity, how much are they charging you to ship that thing? Is it a 1080p? In the USA they're just about giving away the older 720p models. Even the 1080p models can be had cheap. for example, you can get a 42" 1080p for $989 or thereabouts.

 

J

[hybrid 1]

Just out of curiosity, how much are they charging you to ship that thing? Is it a 1080p? In the USA they're just about giving away the older 720p models. Even the 1080p models can be had cheap. for example, you can get a 42" 1080p for $989 or thereabouts.

 

J

No shipping charge. Emirates are allowing it as luggage as there not all that heavy.

[js007 795]

No shipping charge? That makes all the difference, I suppose.

 

J

[hybrid 1]

No shipping charge? That makes all the difference, I suppose.

 

J

 

yup..

if i had to pay to ship i wouls sell it .. not worth it .

but 46kg allowance is what i have ..

think the tv is about 25kg at most ..

 

have asked this about duty everywhere now .. no answers

[BigDUSA 71]

What type of shipping container are you planning on using? Do you have the original box it came in?

[lostinpattaya 0]

[quote name='hybrid' date='Nov 15 2007, 02:45 AM' post='51804

 

have asked this about duty everywhere now .. no answers

The duty on finished products is 20% and VAT is 7%.Fair market value is used to value the goods.So if you are importing a TV you will be liable for around 28.4% total taxes. Specifying the fair market value is not something that anyone can guarantee.It is up to negotiation between you and customs.

[hybrid 1]

What type of shipping container are you planning on using? Do you have the original box it came in?

 

lots of bubble wrap & lightweight hardboard to support & protect it

 

"The duty on finished products is 20% and VAT is 7%.Fair market value is used to value the goods.So if you are importing a TV you will be liable for around 28.4% total taxes. Specifying the fair market value is not something that anyone can guarantee.It is up to negotiation between you and customs"

 

any idea if they use new value or 2nd hand value .. ie. my UK receipt from 10 month ago says £940 ..

current cheapest price i can fins is £698,, so would taking a printout that its this price now new help ? or would they just not care ...

i guess i need to find the price in thailand really to show them..

Edited November 14, 2007 by hybrid

[js007 795]

Maybe just try walking through the "Nothing to Declare" lane. Otherwise, you still might get away with it if you're going there on a retirement visa. In that case, you can import a certain amount of personal household goods duty free.

 

J

[joekicker 53]

anyone know the answer .. no sell it buy a new suggestions please .

 

Yes. I know the answer. The answer is that the charge is whatever they want it to be at the time you bring it in. That IS the answer. If you are looking for a place where people line up politely and receive single, unique and official answers to questions, you're coming to the wrong place. Your experience trying to get that knowledgeable answer has been Just Another Day in Paradise.

 

By the way, rather than duty, you might just be charged a convenience fee including handling, because there is no such thing as a bribe. And it is certainly possibly you could be charged absolutely nothing and just get a smile and a finger wave.

 

You don't have to sell it and buy new, of course. But not doing that puts you in the category of "why is that guy bringing a USED TV set?" It's kind of like bringing a fat English girl to Pattaya, actually, except that the customs officers might feel more like taking apart your USED TV than in closely searching a slag.

 

Passing through the "nothing to declare" line is possible but it's pretty hard to hide your TV as just another box of used underwear -- so weigh the possibility of being charged a little more "convenience fee" for TRYING to smuggle something in, also.

 

That is the answer, with all the major possibilities. There isn't enough disk space for all the other ones, plus the combinations.

 

I am not kidding.

Edited November 14, 2007 by joekicker

[jacko 8,762]

It sounds like you have already put a lot of time and effort into this endeavour. A 40 inch LCD TV can be had at Carefour for about 70,000 baht, so your choice. I bought my fishing rods here to avoid the inconveniences you will suffer.

 

You must LOVE that TV!

[CheshireTom 1,377]

On a residential move you are allowed one consignment of household goods exempt from duty.

 

You will need to declare it or the penalties can be significant and arbitrary. If you don't declare it and get pulled then you are unlikely just to be allowed to pay up there and then. You will be taken to the Customs Department and it will ruin your day completely.

 

 

 

1.3 A certain amount of used household effects accompanying a passenger because of residential movement will be exempted from Customs duties. Used household effects such as television, radio, video, etc., will be exempted from Customs duties; however, passengers are required to declare these types of items to the Customs officer at the red channel by submitting a passenger declaration form (Form No. 211).

Edited November 15, 2007 by CheshireTom

[joekicker 53]

On a residential move you are allowed one consignment of household goods exempt from duty.

 

Yes but this isn't a consignment, it's hand-carried and accompanied.

 

The air and port customs are actually pretty good about unaccompanied consignments, although the paperwork is daunting but if you have it with you, the following is the Rule Number 1:

 

All regulations apply except in cases where they don't.

Edited November 15, 2007 by joekicker

[Fireman Sam 336]

I'm sure some of my mates said that UK TV's don't work in Thailand, maybe worth checking it out with someone who knows for sure.

 

I know the voltage is very similar and not a problem, I think the re-fresh rate or something like that was different something about 50-60 MHz for UK TV's.

 

Again I'm not sure, just trying to give you a heads up before you carry it all the way over for nothing.

 

Let us know if you find out for sure.

 

Best Regards

Fireman Sam

 

Edit, Just for your information I recently purchased a 32 Samsung LCD TV in Nakhon Phanom for 24 thousand baht at local electrical shop.

Edited November 15, 2007 by Fireman Sam

[jacko 8,762]

The mains frequency in Thailand is the same as UK, 50hz. The voltage is slightly different, 220 in Thailand, 240 in UK, but neither of these should be an issue for modern appliances.

 

The colour system is also PAL in both countries, but there are multiple types of PAL, Thailand uses PAL B/M, the UK uses PAL I , they are normally incompatible..... I am unsure whether you will be able to get the sound. This might be as Sam mentions above. Internet research may be needed! Check the TV book to see if it can handle multiple systems.

 

http://www.kropla.com/tv.htm

Edited November 16, 2007 by jacko

[hybrid 1]

i'm aware if the Pal difference .

philips say either there modern LCD's are multi standard or they can be upgraded via firmware or hardware. .

not a huge issue as intended use is with a UK PS3 & a UBC box ..

i was dissapointed tho that it seems even UBC box's do not have a scart connection, HD is non-existant in thailand .(UBC only now even demo'ing in BKK) , anyone know what connections are on the back of UBC box's (or philipino dream TV)

 

also emirates UK are now saying different to emirates bkk check in .

TV needs to go as cargo, so extra fees etc .. £69 they quote .. which i not that bad really but it all adds up and goes towards replacemnt cost ..

so possible 20k baht at customs(or more) , 4000 baht shipping .. + all the hastle . might just lend it to mother instead .. lol

[Eneukman 1]

Maybe just try walking through the "Nothing to Declare" lane. Otherwise, you still might get away with it if you're going there on a retirement visa. In that case, you can import a certain amount of personal household goods duty free.

J

 

Not now. The rules were changed whilst my goods were in transit 2 years ago. I had to apy an "agreed" amount of import duty but no receipt would be issued. Goods can still be imported free of duty if you have a work permit as far as I can recall.

 

 

Yes. I know the answer. The answer is that the charge is whatever they want it to be at the time you bring it in. That IS the answer. If you are looking for a place where people line up politely and receive single, unique and official answers to questions, you're coming to the wrong place. Your experience trying to get that knowledgeable answer has been Just Another Day in Paradise.

 

I am not kidding.

 

That is the correct answer to the OP's question!

 

Alan

Edited November 16, 2007 by Eneukman

[joekicker 53]

.(UBC only now even demo'ing in BKK) , anyone know what connections are on the back of UBC box's (or philipino dream TV)

 

UBC died.

 

The connections on the back of Truevisions boxes are generally RCA plugs. They work okay (shrug). There are the usual 1960s antenna and 1990s coax, too. The single coax will go to the dish, but I suppose you could split it. I just use the RCA pins and they're okay.

[MM 6,562]

I had an opportunity to go to the port customs office in Lam Chebang once to pick up a George Foreman grill that I had shipped from Australia (that old 220 vs 110 issue).

I declared the actual new value, and the guy said, okay, that will be 600b customs duty. I gave him 1000b, expecting change, and he put the 1000b in his pocket and said he didn't have change. He also kept hinting that he wanted to come over and have a steak dinner.

I got my package after that, but what a crooked bunch they are.

[Eneukman 1]

And no doubt, you didn't get a receipt either!

 

Alan

[papillon 695]

Just bubble wrap it, shove it in a suitcase and check it in.

 

Walk through the green exit at Customs. If Customs pull you over, just play dumb and discreetly draw his/her attention to the 1000 Baht in your hand.

 

I'm holding off buying anything new and have done so for @ 18 months already. I plan on just giving everything away and then buying new when I get to S.E.A.

[lostinpattaya 0]

I had an opportunity to go to the port customs office in Lam Chebang once to pick up a George Foreman grill that I had shipped from Australia (that old 220 vs 110 issue).

Neither Australia nor Thailand use 110.So how did this cause a problem?

 

Just bubble wrap it, shove it in a suitcase and check it in.

I thought of doing exactly that.But a 42" TV is much bigger than you think.Even my largest bag was not big enough.

[papillon 695]

Well wrap it somehow.

 

As long as you don't exceed your weight allowance, why would there be a problem from the airline?

 

I have no idea what various 42" LCD TVs weigh but somebody already mentioned 25 Kilos.

 

You're more likely to get pulled by Customs though. Must be a suitcase big enough out there, surely.

[joekicker 53]

Neither Australia nor Thailand use 110.So how did this cause a problem?

 

It didn't cause a problem. That is why he bought a grill to be used in Thailand in Australia instead of buying a George Foreman grill in the country where George Foreman lives and directs his grill business and sells most of his grills, which would have caused a problem.

[torrenova 644]

You're an honest bunch here !

 

Just package it up and maybe put some brown paper on it so that it does not look like a TV box then walk it through the green channel. On the trolley, it will be fairly well hidden by a suitcase or other baggage anyway.

 

In any case, any temporary import should not attract taxes as it will, at some unspecified future date, be expoerted again. That date never comes around because it breaks beforehand and has to be thrown away.

 

On a technical note, the TV signal here is crap on Sophon and UBC so that HD 1024 models actually make the picture worse. DVDs are awsome but the regular telly is shit.

 

Go to BigC and ask them to put the TV on. They will refuse.

Edited November 17, 2007 by torrenova