Muslims

[Gawd Elpus 798]

That sums up your attitude...Deny truths. Even video confessions from a muslim MP and now, a school curriculum head, proven on a TV programme that they teach Jews are monkeys and Christians are pigs. The books were interpreted by TWO muslim scholars. But I guess that doesnt rate against MrPastry There is no excuse, repeat, no excuse for such stuff being handed out in schools. End of. Your just an apologist and traitor.

 

Glad people will see what we are up against in the UK. Soft, overly PC people in denial, who think that minorities cant put a foot wrong. Video evidence etc, is ignored and spun.

 

"they"????? = The school Whats your point? Fits in with behaviour we saw at Londonds biggest mosque where they refuse to stop selling hate cds, and dvds

 

ahh I see. for a minute there I thought you were saying that this goes on in all schools, not just the one. Yes I agree, terrible, that school should be closed down. No tdenial, just pointing as usual that none of your clips or news items relate to the majority of the UK Muslim population to keep a balance and to keep things in perspective as usual. Since there are well over 4000 secondary schools in UK, it kind of pales into insignificants don't you think ??

 

 

We have already been down the Traitor route when I provided you with a definition where have you seen me apoligise for Muslims ???

Edited February 13, 2010 by Mr Pastry

[atlas2 4,329]

You accused me of vastly editing and removing material in my posts, which didn't happen. When I told you it didn't happen, instead of owning up and admitting your accusation was total spit and you were mistaken, you removed the accusation. You couldn't, of course, remove the now-weird but forthright denial of your vile, false accusation.

 

THEN

 

 

 

you wrote all the personal-attack, mind-reading guff all over again anyhow. But this time you were careful not to address or own up to the totally false accusation you made that I removed vast amounts of material from my post(s) which, I repeat, was false the first time you made it, and now is appearing to have been a deliberate lie, and it appears that way because you haven't the (something-something) to simply man up to it and admit a simple mistake, which I would have believed but now I don't.

 

You may think it's clever to let everyone read that accusing post and then remove it and try to appear innocent. You may think that.

 

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"Hello kettle........this is the pot....you're black!"

 

Or, "Wa da kow, Inao, ben eng!"

 

Step back and take a look at your breast beating rants Joe. Just well meaning advice.

 

I've looked at my posts over a month or so and decided they ain't worth the effort. Circular arguments that descend into all of the above is just a waste of my time. It has become an endless drudge. I know it isn't that to you. You seem to get something fulfilling from it all. That's fine and not (well not really) a criticism. Live and let live.

 

If you look at my past posts you'll see I'm happy to admit to mistakes. Once to you, over only the 'possibility' that I had made a mistake regarding 'female circumcision in Pakistan' when I could have ignored, as you do, any corrections or stuck stubbornly to my guns. I apologized a second time regarding an 'accusation' before that you've got it in for England. I gave you then the benefit of doubt. Now I think I was wrong to do that.

 

Answer a simple question: What is so 'bloody interesting' about the 'England is a cesspit' article that argues in-effect along the same lines of many of the English contributors on this board that you hold to task or ridicule?

 

I promise to read your reply and allow you the final words.

 

 

I'll leave you with a quote from the great Homer Simpson.

 

To Marge,(in this case that's you Joe).

 

Homer with his whining voice........" Oh Marge, you're as bad as me! But you used to be better than me.........That makes you worse."

[joekicker 53]

I've looked at my posts over a month or so and decided they ain't worth the effort.

 

And then another 300 words that ARE worth the effort.

 

Look. You can withdraw the false accusations you made about me which I have vigorously denied - or not. All your lengthy posturing and BS-nonsense woe-is-me I-hate-myself-in-the-morning-for-posting aside - just man up. At the start, you probably just got confused, addled, made false accusations and you were mistaken. Now you are supporting deliberate, scurrilous lies. Don't do that.

 

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[nidnoyham 30]

The usually laid back, tolerant, Dutch voters, in a recent election, have given the anti Islamist party leader Geert Wilders a large amount of votes for his Freedom Party (PVV).

 

Polls suggest that they may get the largest amount of seat - 27 from 150, in the coming Election.

 

The Dutch voters are the first to do, what main stream politicians hate them to do- vote for a party that says it will do what they want. This could become a trend throughout the rest of Europe.

 

Ya never know !

[Gawd Elpus 798]

The usually laid back, tolerant, Dutch voters, in a recent election, have given the anti Islamist party leader Geert Wilders a large amount of votes for his Freedom Party (PVV).

 

Polls suggest that they may get the largest amount of seat - 27 from 150, in the coming Election.

 

The Dutch voters are the first to do, what main stream politicians hate them to do- vote for a party that says it will do what they want. This could become a trend throughout the rest of Europe.

 

Ya never know !

 

 

I doubt it. Already its looking like a hung parliment in the next UK elections which will mean even less confindence from the markets. If the BNP skew the vote it will make matters even worse, and if by a dogs chamce the BNP were elected then thats goodnight UK, turn the lights out on yer way out. The economy is the single most important problem right now, especially with the pound at an all time low, and higher numbers of unemployed. The recession/depression was not caused by Muslims, it ws caused by the most wealthy in the world.

[nidnoyham 30]

I doubt it. Already its looking like a hung parliment in the next UK elections which will mean even less confindence from the markets. If the BNP skew the vote it will make matters even worse, and if by a dogs chamce the BNP were elected then thats goodnight UK, turn the lights out on yer way out. The economy is the single most important problem right now, especially with the pound at an all time low, and higher numbers of unemployed. The recession/depression was not caused by Muslims, it ws caused by the most wealthy in the world.

 

 

And had Mr Wilders party specialized in economic issues, I would have posted on Wacies 'Bust' thread.

 

But they don't. They got the support on Islamic issues. ( Unless he is an expert economist too )

 

That is why I posted the outcome on this one.

 

Our next election will be most interesting. I have a choice of voting for Alan Keen "Mr Expenses" who, with his wife claimed £125,000 for a Mayfair flat second home, when their main home was 10 miles from Westminister. Or the local Conservative lad who works at Heathrow, but still represents blokes with moats around their home, or a bell tower.

 

I may just not bother at all. The polling station is a few hundred yard from my house, so it may be worth the effort, just to write BOLLOCKS with a marker pen on the paper.

[Gawd Elpus 798]

And had Mr Wilders party specialized in economic issues, I would have posted on Wacies 'Bust' thread.

 

But they don't. They got the support on Islamic issues. ( Unless he is an expert economist too )

 

That is why I posted the outcome on this one.

 

Our next election will be most interesting. I have a choice of voting for Alan Keen "Mr Expenses" who, with his wife claimed £125,000 for a Mayfair flat second home, when their main home was 10 miles from Westminister. Or the local Conservative lad who works at Heathrow, but still represents blokes with moats around their home, or a bell tower.

 

I may just not bother at all. The polling station is a few hundred yard from my house, so it may be worth the effort, just to write BOLLOCKS with a marker pen on the paper.

 

I would agree that there are limited choices in some London Boroughs for candidates. Politicians need to get their houses in order. I have the same sort of dilema where i live, even though I know the Labour MP personally. Right now, I dont have so many concerns about my local area, but I think more about the party that will be voted in and the effects on the Nation as a whole. I think we are heading for economic gloom for sometime and the only way the city ( finance) will react positively is by a sizeable Tory majority. That then goes against some of my principles, so I am gonna have a real struggle in voting ths year. I may join you with the Bollox vote

[Obsession 571]

In Scotland ( thats gingerland to you ,Pastry) , the SNP deputy has ran into a spot of bother. She wrote a letter to a court asking for a fraudster not to be jailed. He was an ethnic, as you could have guessed ans had previosly been jailed for 4 years for £80k benefit fraud. This time he was charged with, eh, £80k benefit fraud , and yet she wants the habitual criminal spared. Turns out he has homes worth £600k ,all from a small PO business and obviously fraud / crime. He has also been investigated for forging signatures and cashing giros. imho, many of these immigrants bring behaviour with them. In their homeland corruption, bent Policing , election fraud , not paying taxes etc is part of their way. They bring that to the UK. Most immigrant owned businesses probably dont pay tax, and the council tax collection for their enclaves is probably nil. In Glasgow, most "cornershops" change ownership to a cousin at around the two year period. Its a swap shop scenario. Coincidentally, thats when their first tax bill is due. Although I exempt Pastrys utopian corner of the UK, where immigrants are angels and Brits are hoodie granny bashers.

[Gawd Elpus 798]

In Scotland ( thats gingerland to you ,Pastry) , the SNP deputy has ran into a spot of bother. She wrote a letter to a court asking for a fraudster not to be jailed. He was an ethnic, as you could have guessed ans had previosly been jailed for 4 years for £80k benefit fraud. This time he was charged with, eh, £80k benefit fraud , and yet she wants the habitual criminal spared.

 

Turns out he has homes worth £600k ,all from a small PO business and obviously fraud / crime. He has also been investigated for forging signatures and cashing giros. imho, many of these immigrants bring behaviour with them. In their homeland corruption, bent Policing , election fraud , not paying taxes etc is part of their way. They bring that to the UK. Most immigrant owned businesses probably dont pay tax, and the council tax collection for their enclaves is probably nil. In Glasgow, most "cornershops" change ownership to a cousin at around the two year period. Its a swap shop scenario. Coincidentally, thats when their first tax bill is due. Although I exempt Pastrys utopian corner of the UK, where immigrants are angels and Brits are hoodie granny bashers.

 

 

Well there is a surprise Let us dissect this bag of bollox penned by the ginger Jock Paki basher

 

In Scotland ( thats gingerland to you ,Pastry) , the SNP deputy has ran into a spot of bother. She wrote a letter to a court asking for a fraudster not to be jailed. He was an ethnic, as you could have guessed ans had previosly been jailed for 4 years for £80k benefit fraud. This time he was charged with, eh, £80k benefit fraud , and yet she wants the habitual criminal spared.

 

Usual load of pash one equals all.

 

In their homeland corruption, bent Policing , election fraud , not paying taxes etc is part of their way

 

Where would that be ??

 

many of these immigrants bring behaviour with them. In their homeland corruption, bent Policing , election fraud , not paying taxes etc is part of their way

 

Thats interesting I didnt know they had a Social Welfare scheme to abuse in that part of the world and you have to have a job to pay taxes, which probably many did not have, thats why they came in the first place you nana

 

In Glasgow, most "cornershops" change ownership to a cousin at around the two year period. Its a swap shop scenario. Coincidentally, thats when their first tax bill is due

 

Merely your assumption dear boy and no eveidence of such and spare me any one off stories that you have found in an only Klan newspaper pweees

 

Although I exempt Pastrys utopian corner of the UK, where immigrants are angels and Brits are hoodie granny bashers.

 

I am glad that you do. The immigrants are no more angels than anyone else, they just get on with their daily lives as do most of the non-muslims. The only trouble in my area is from young chavs/white trash whos excuse for vandelism, violence and drug dealing is that they cant get a job, lol, my arse they dont want a fucking job, thats why they are taken by immigrants who dont mind doing unskilled labour, for small reward. The great majority of employed Muslims in UK are on PAYE, so how the fuck do they dodge tax ????

 

All complete coockooland propaganda, and pash straight out of the BNP handbook no doubt

 

As I have said many a time, I feel sorry for you living in Glasgow with all its percieved problems, but you could always leave and come down south where things are better

.............................enter the Hounslow mob

Edited March 4, 2010 by Mr Pastry

[nidnoyham 30]

The only trouble in my area is from young chavs/white trash whos excuse for vandelism, violence and drug dealing is that they cant get a job, lol, my arse they dont want a fucking job, thats why they are taken by immigrants who dont mind doing unskilled labour, for small reward.

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.............................enter the Hounslow mob

 

 

I assume they wont put you out of a job though ? Is that because you are willing to work for a small reward. Or they just don't do the same job as you ? Not too many Self Employed Bollocks-ollogists- Sorry, Freelance Consultants, from the Eastern Europeans to worry about.

 

 

Why should they work for small reward ?

 

I suppose you would have had the Jarrow Marchers and Tollpudlle Martyrs shot ?

 

A decent wage for a days work whatever next ? Sick and holiday pay ? Minimun wages and working conditions ?

 

You never cease to amaze me with your arrogance.

 

What else can you expect from a Suit ?

[Gawd Elpus 798]

I assume they wont put you out of a job though ? Is that because you are willing to work for a small reward. Or they just don't do the same job as you ? Not too many Self Employed Bollocks-ollogists- Sorry, Freelance Consultants, from the Eastern Europeans to worry about.

 

 

Why should they work for small reward ?

 

I suppose you would have had the Jarrow Marchers and Tollpudlle Martyrs shot ?

 

A decent wage for a days work whatever next ? Sick and holiday pay ? Minimun wages and working conditions ?

 

You never cease to amaze me with your arrogance.

 

What else can you expect from a Suit ?

 

It is reality not arrogance. I dont believe that they are putting anyone out of a job that doesnt want that job. It is the employers who are to blame who want to pay the least wages and some of them do not even pay the National minimum wage. Many young people these days do not want to start at the bottom like we did. They want to go into fancy jobs from leaving school, and when some of them realise that they are not going to earn such good money, they often look for other means. That was ALL I was saying. I think you completely missunderstood what I said, to be perfectly honest. I was not suggesting that anyone should worki for small money, but it is a fact that many Immigrants take some of the lowest paid jobs in the UK.

 

I dont wear a suit much at all these days BTW

[nidnoyham 30]

I dont wear a suit much at all these days BTW

 

No, but you still think like one.

[Gawd Elpus 798]

No, but you still think like one.

 

Northing wrong with people in suits, its not the clothes that maketh man. Some of the best are up their in all forms of cloth. Maybe I should don a cloth cap and braces and say eey by goom ??

 

I am a working class boy, what done good for imself govna, honest, I pulled miself up by my bootstraps.

[atlas2 4,329]

I see the BBC have an, 'Intelligence Squared Debate'. It's subject for discussion is, 'Is Europe Failing It's Muslims?'

 

Should be interesting.

[Obsession 571]

All complete coockooland propaganda, and pash straight out of the BNP handbook no doubt

 

Oh dear. Many BMs on two forums have all pretty much agreed that immigration is a problem, except you. The UK you describe doesnt sound like the UK we all live in and we live all over the UK. There have been Welsh , English and that mob you launched a racist attack on , then came back later and said you were joking The Scots. You were named as living in a "rose tinted dreamworld" by a Welshman. Everybody agreed your utopian little corner of the UK probably doesnt exist. You also claimed that muslims didnt commit crimes in the UK You also said that there wasnt any reported crime in Dubai.... a place that censors the news

Despite me telling you dozens of times that I dont visit the BNP website , vote for them or anything else to do with them, you keep shouting "BNP" and KLAN" , its because you have nothing else in your locker. Its a pity you didnt leave when you said you would, so we could have an intelligent conversation without people with nothing to say except name shouting

 

BTW, the traitor name for you came from your smearing of young Brits and rose tinting immigrants. Thats the work of a traitor. Please check the Philharmonic youth orchestra for young thugs and every University campus in the UK. I think you will find you are painting a very negative picture of British youth, wwhile kissing immigrant ass There is no way I believe your neighbourhood is full of lovely immigrants and British thugs.

[nidnoyham 30]

BTW, the traitor name for you came from your smearing of young Brits and rose tinting immigrants. Thats the work of a traitor. Please check the Philharmonic youth orchestra for young thugs and every University campus in the UK. I think you will find you are painting a very negative picture of British youth, while kissing immigrant ass

 

 

You forgot the young Englishmen dieing for their country in Afghanistan. No rush to put them out of a job by immigrant labour is there ?

 

If Adolf was at CaLais now. Pastry would have written on the white cliffs of Dover;

 

Welkomen Adolf. Grosse Britaign is fur uns alles. Wie canst alles suzzamen blieben. ( roughly translated Welcome Adolf Great Britain is for everyone. We can all live together. xxx.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Welkomen Adolf. Grosse Britaign is fur uns alles. Wie canst alles suzzamen blieben. ( roughly translated Welcome Adolf Great Britain is for everyone. We can all live together. xxx.

 

Is that from the script of Auf Wiedersehen Pet, or what?

[Gawd Elpus 798]

You forgot the young Englishmen dieing for their country in Afghanistan. No rush to put them out of a job by immigrant labour is there ?

 

If Adolf was at CaLais now. Pastry would have written on the white cliffs of Dover;

 

Welkomen Adolf. Grosse Britaign is fur uns alles. Wie canst alles suzzamen blieben. ( roughly translated Welcome Adolf Great Britain is for everyone. We can all live together. xxx.

 

 

To deny that white British thugs do not exist, is rather interesting and to say that I am a traitor for stating what is clearly obvious is of course laughable. I read people criticizing Britain all the time for various things, therefore they are all traitors too. There is plenty of white trash in UK, teenage girls as young as 13 with 3 + babies from different absent fathers bludging off the state, gangs of hoodies on estates all over the country,with ASBOS, lets not paint a completely false image of the UK and pretend that all of its indigenous population are the cream of the crop, because it simply ain't true, like it or not.

 

Now, take me to the Tower and chop off my head

 

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca...NGM6siAa6V2vUjg

 

Look at section 1.6 interesting ay ???

Edited March 7, 2010 by Mr Pastry

[Obsession 571]

To deny that white British thugs do not exist, is rather interesting and to say that I am a traitor for stating what is clearly obvious is of course laughable. I read people criticizing Britain all the time for various things, therefore they are all traitors too. There is plenty of white trash in UK, teenage girls as young as 13 with 3 + babies from different absent fathers bludging off the state, gangs of hoodies on estates all over the country,with ASBOS, lets not paint a completely false image of the UK and pretend that all of its indigenous population are the cream of the crop, because it simply ain't true, like it or not.

 

Now, take me to the Tower and chop off my head

 

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca...NGM6siAa6V2vUjg

 

Look at section 1.6 interesting ay ???

 

Its you who paints a false picture of multicultural harmony. Every Brit BM has pointed out you talk tosh Even non Brit BMs have seen the immigrants attack peaceful demonstrations, plan to march during war memorial services, riots, racial murders, no to mention suicide bomber doctors , faywahs etc. If you like to talk about young thugs, you should have watched the TV programme tonight about gangs in England. Not one of them was an idiginous Brit. That fwecks you theory about it being indiginous Brits being the only cultural group with problem teenagers Your living up to your traitor billing, nicely

[nidnoyham 30]

. There is plenty of white trash in UK, teenage girls as young as 13 with 3 + babies from different absent fathers bludging off the state,

Now, take me to the Tower and chop off my head

 

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca...NGM6siAa6V2vUjg

 

You remember the girls school in Brent my daughter worked in ? The pupils were over 95% black.

 

It was the only school she ever worked in, that had a creche for the pupils babies.

 

Every country has it's own problem youngsters. We are no different. The last thing we need is other countries problem youngsters here.

 

I watched one of those "Secret Millionaire" programs where a West Indian volunteer driver, confessed he couldn't get a paid job, because he had 12 children by several different women and the CSA would take all his wages.

 

I wouldn't mention such things, but I feel a need to balance your version of how things are in England.

 

You sure you live here ??

[Gawd Elpus 798]

You remember the girls school in Brent my daughter worked in ? The pupils were over 95% black.

 

It was the only school she ever worked in, that had a creche for the pupils babies.

 

Every country has it's own problem youngsters. We are no different. The last thing we need is other countries problem youngsters here.

 

I watched one of those "Secret Millionaire" programs where a West Indian volunteer driver, confessed he couldn't get a paid job, because he had 12 children by several different women and the CSA would take all his wages.

 

I wouldn't mention such things, but I feel a need to balance your version of how things are in England.

 

You sure you live here ??

 

These are handful of individuals selected to make a TV documentary, you should not assume for one minute that it is a reflection of the whole country. You are right about every country having its problem youngsters and that is where by balance comes in. Would you be a traitor for recognizing that ?? no of course not. Us British conveniently white wash ourselves in order to make our case stronger against immigrants, its not rocket science is it ?

[judd 2]

Us British conveniently white wash ourselves in order to make our case stronger against immigrants, its not rocket science is it ?

 

How true and the same applies to the US and Australia

[Ergodyne 19]

Within twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.K. to elect a government of their choice, complete with Sharia law.

[Gawd Elpus 798]

Within twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.K. to elect a government of their choice, complete with Sharia law.

 

Quite likely

[Obsession 571]

These are handful of individuals selected to make a TV documentary, you should not assume for one minute that it is a reflection of the whole country. You are right about every country having its problem youngsters and that is where by balance comes in. Would you be a traitor for recognizing that ?? no of course not. Us British conveniently white wash ourselves in order to make our case stronger against immigrants, its not rocket science is it ?

 

Utter bull. We havent whitewashed ourselves. Example please?

 

We admit there are many indiginious crims etc. It was you who called me and Mulphy liars when we said muslims were involved in crime and drugs in Glasgow Despite murders, rcial torchings, airport bombings , kneecapping and even the muslim MPs son is in jail. You utterly whitewash immigrants while smearing the indiginlus population. Thats why you are a traitor. You bend te truth to make you fellow countrymen look bad. Very sad indeed.

 

Regarding the bent Police commander. Only a blinkered doh merchant, wouldnt see that its unfair to other officers that the crooked cop was promoted because of his ethnicity. They have worked years to get ahead and that incompetent crooked twat walks in and gets the job because he in an immigrant. And it happens in all jobs. But Pastry lives in his own head of untopian fantasy