3 things FIFA should change for the next World Cup

[bigdelta 46]

1-Tiebreaker-the current 1st tiebreaker is goal differential-totally wrong IMO.If I beat you and you happened to score 5 goals against a common opponent because they were a man down and I only scored 3,you qualify.WRONG logic,I beat you so I am better.

2-Players from anywhere can play for your team.Wrong.Just beacuse a relative from country A screwed someonr from country B 500 years back,you qualify.I've watched every match and only 1 accouncer has even mentioned the "liberal" rule for eligibility according to FIFA rules for fear of being scorched.I'm sure Switzerland is happy with the only goal in their match with Chile being scored my a South African from Durban.There are numerous others,including Swiss own player from another continent.There are many other examples.In fact,FIFA is considering easing the rules to say if you've ever "visited" the country,you're eligible!

3-Referees-I don't care how much oil your country produces (Saudi Arabia) or which continent the WC is played on (incompetent clown from tribe in Mali that affected outcome of WC),FIFA needs to put the best referees in the world in their top competition.

Edited June 21, 2010 by LTGTR

[paul230 24]

1-Tiebreaker-the current 1st tiebreaker is goal differential-totally wrong IMO.If I beat you and you happened to score 5 goals against a common opponent because they were a man down and I only scored 3,you qualify.WRONG logic,I beat you so I am better.

2-Players from anywhere can play for your team.Wrong.Just beacuse a relative from country A screwed someonr from country B 500 years back,you qualify.I've watched every match and only 1 accouncer has even mentioned the "liberal" rule for eligibility according to FIFA rules for fear of being scorched.I'm sure Switzerland is happy with the only goal in their match with Chile being scored my a South African from Durban.There are numerous others,including Swiss own player from another continent.There are many other examples.In fact,FIFA is considering easing the rules to say if you've ever "visited" the country,you're eligible!

3-Referees-I don't care how much oil your country produces (Saudi Arabia) or which continent the WC is played on (incompetent clown from tribe in Mali that affected outcome of WC),FIFA needs to put the best referees in the world in their top competition.

 

I agree with everything you say but i doubt the rules will change, 1 thing i'd like to see changed is camera proof of incidents, the referees look at a replay in a controversial incident and then a decision is made, so no more pricks acting, like the 1 that succeeded in getting Kaka sent off last night, no more handball goals, Maradona, Luis Fabiano last night and Henry in the game against Ireland. These cheating bastards are ruining the game.

[joekicker 53]

I agree with everything you say but i doubt the rules will change, 1 thing i'd like to see changed is camera proof of incidents, the referees look at a replay in a controversial incident and then a decision is made, so no more pricks acting, like the 1 that succeeded in getting Kaka sent off last night, no more handball goals, Maradona, Luis Fabiano last night and Henry in the game against Ireland. These cheating bastards are ruining the game.

 

I thought he'd say vuvuzuela.

 

The Maradona-Henry hand balls are good arguments, but diving will ALWAYS be a judgement call -- EVEN if it seems in 2D replay that the guy wasn't touched, you can trip because the guy made a lunge at you. I don't see replays settling diving and penalties. Cameras are always only going to prove things like did the ball cross the line, did the guy (clearly) handle it. You can't prove the US did *not* make a foul on that horrible Slovenia call, not with a camera, only with your brain. And offside is often judgement too, whether the player is "involved". Cameras have their place as big-time hockey proves but they are very intrusive on the game as gridiron football shows. If you are going to use cameras, you have to define very carefully just exactly when you use them. I can't see cameras really helping against diving.

 

I'm not clear here, apparently, on who can play for a team. I thought you had to be a citizen? How can Fifa get involved in that? Or am I (likely) missing something?

 

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[CheshireTom 1,377]

1-Tiebreaker-the current 1st tiebreaker is goal differential-totally wrong IMO.If I beat you and you happened to score 5 goals against a common opponent because they were a man down and I only scored 3,you qualify.WRONG logic,I beat you so I am better.

 

Yes, but you got beat by 9 camel jockeys, a one-legged midget and a hairdresser from Leytonstone which means that you are crap and don't deserve to go any further. Don't worry though - you can always blame the referee.

 

2-Players from anywhere can play for your team.Wrong.Just beacuse a relative from country A screwed someonr from country B 500 years back,you qualify.I've watched every match and only 1 accouncer has even mentioned the "liberal" rule for eligibility according to FIFA rules for fear of being scorched.I'm sure Switzerland is happy with the only goal in their match with Chile being scored my a South African from Durban.There are numerous others,including Swiss own player from another continent.There are many other examples.In fact,FIFA is considering easing the rules to say if you've ever "visited" the country,you're eligible!

 

When the eligibility rules (that Algeria and other African countries are taking advantage of) were changed last year, one of the first beneficiaries was the US who got Jermaine Jones at the ripe old age of 27 although he had previously been capped for Germany. The fact that he is currently crippled is a good a dose of schadenfreude.

 

 

3-Referees-I don't care how much oil your country produces (Saudi Arabia) or which continent the WC is played on (incompetent clown from tribe in Mali that affected outcome of WC),FIFA needs to put the best referees in the world in their top competition.

 

Get over it. The Spanish are saying the same thing about Howard Webb.

Edited June 21, 2010 by CheshireTom

[Upharsin 0]

Referees-I don't care how much oil your country produces (Saudi Arabia) or which continent the WC is played on (incompetent clown from tribe in Mali that affected outcome of WC),FIFA needs to put the best referees in the world in their top competition.

You are being hard on him, but that referee may just have played an important role in delaying the world cup from turning into the world series by a few precious years....

[bigdelta 46]

I agree with everything you say but i doubt the rules will change, 1 thing i'd like to see changed is camera proof of incidents, the referees look at a replay in a controversial incident and then a decision is made, so no more pricks acting, like the 1 that succeeded in getting Kaka sent off last night, no more handball goals, Maradona, Luis Fabiano last night and Henry in the game against Ireland. These cheating bastards are ruining the game.

2nd WORST CALL of the WC so far is red card for Kaka for being "run into" by opposing player from behind.Where was linesman?OMG-that ref and linesman should be sent home now on the same flight as janitor from Mali.

There should be goal line officials to help ref make calls.That would have helped Land of Eire for sure.

[bigdelta 46]

I thought he'd say vuvuzuela.

 

You can't prove the US did *not* make a foul on that horrible Slovenia call, not with a camera, only with your brain.

 

ESPN 360 AXIS has shown every player from every angle and there was not a foul by US player.It's great to see on the big screen.It also showed 3 clear red card fouls in the box by Slovenians and the Slovenians admitted after the match that there were no US fouls.................

BTW,isn't vulvazuela run by that despot Chavez?

[bigdelta 46]

Yes, but you got beat by 9 camel jockeys, a one-legged midget and a hairdresser from Leytonstone which means that you are crap and don't deserve to go any further. Don't worry though - you can always blame the referee.

 

 

When the eligibility rules (that Algeria and other African countries are taking advantage of) were changed last year, one of the first beneficiaries was the US who got Jermaine Jones at the ripe old age of 27 although he had previously been capped for Germany. The fact that he is currently crippled is a good a dose of schadenfreude.

 

 

 

 

Get over it.The Spanish are saying the same thing about Howard Webb.

 

Yes you do deserve to go through if A beats B.

Germane who?He's never played a minute for US and in fact,never heard of him/it.

Webb happens to be one of the best around.

Edited June 21, 2010 by LTGTR

[chacha 0]

ESPN 360 AXIS has shown every player from every angle and there was not a foul by US player.It's great to see on the big screen.It also showed 3 clear red card fouls in the box by Slovenians and the Slovenians admitted after the match that there were no US fouls.................

BTW,isn't vulvazuela run by that despot Chavez?

You leave Chavez alone he is a man of principle . Putting that a one side I think the stupid Offside rule needs putting back to as it was .

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Germane who?He's never played a minute for US and in fact,never heard of him/it.

 

Jones - he plays for Schalke. He wasn't going to get selected again for Germany so decided to change allegiance to the US hoping to get picked for the World Cup. He then got injured and I assume Bradley opted not to pick him as he was effectively an outsider and hadn't been to any team camps.

 

As an aside, it was nice to see Thongchai Jaidee hitting a hole-in-one at the US Open at the weekend.

[joekicker 53]

As an aside, it was nice to see Thongchai Jaidee hitting a hole-in-one at the US Open at the weekend. beer

 

They had to change a graphic on the main NBC feed to read that "Els is putting for the first eagle ON A PAR 5 HOLE since ..." 1980-something (in a US Open, that is). I thought that was cute.

 

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[joekicker 53]

ESPN 360 AXIS has shown every player from every angle and there was not a foul by US player.

 

Yeah. Which took two days of engineering and proved.... that no camera caught a foul. Nah, I'll stick with this, that cameras can't prove something DIDN'T happen. I knew immediately there was no call to make, I didn't need cameras. But after all the angles and views and dancing cameras, I didn't see anything else, either.

 

Of course we are not actually certain that the ref saw a foul. He may have just had a hiccough and accidentally whistled. He may have been trying to frantically scratch a mosquito bite and people took it to mean the goal was waved off. So long as the officials are totally unaccountable, and so long as the execrable Fifa backs them up on it, who really knows what he did, except cancel the goal?

 

If you're going to talk cameras, I think you have to talk officials. Hockey has two refs and two linesmen (who these days really have nothing to do but stand on the blue line, in addition to breaking up fights). Soccer has a playing area about 10 times as big or more. I think at least another ref, and maybe giving the linesmen a whistle. Hey, it's no more of a change than stopping the game for 10 minutes so everyone can take a break and can watch it on TV.

 

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[picoman 1]

2-Players from anywhere can play for your team.Wrong.Just beacuse a relative from country A screwed someonr from country B 500 years back,you qualify.I've watched every match and only 1 accouncer has even mentioned the "liberal" rule for eligibility according to FIFA rules for fear of being scorched.I'm sure Switzerland is happy with the only goal in their match with Chile being scored my a South African from Durban.

 

So his father, a Chilean, was working in S.A. as a footballer. His mother was there - Chilean. They moved back to Chile when he was 10.

 

Are you serious ?

[Tatanka 1]

2-Players from anywhere can play for your team.Wrong.Just beacuse a relative from country A screwed someonr from country B 500 years back,you qualify.

So you are saying that only Native Americans (Indians) should play for the USA team ?

[joekicker 53]

So you are saying that only Native Americans (Indians) should play for the USA team ? lol

 

Of course they can't!! Barring better archaeological evidence, they can play for Mongolia, though.

 

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[Al_Davis 28]

I agree with everything you say but i doubt the rules will change, 1 thing i'd like to see changed is camera proof of incidents, the referees look at a replay in a controversial incident and then a decision is made, so no more pricks acting, like the 1 that succeeded in getting Kaka sent off last night, no more handball goals, Maradona, Luis Fabiano last night and Henry in the game against Ireland. These cheating bastards are ruining the game.

 

For most of us Americans, this is the only time when soccer is big news and from the viewpoint of an average American soccer fan dives are a MAJOR reason the sport hasn't had the same success as it has world wide. There's no honor in cheating your way into a win. Its just plan sorry and what the player is really saying is he's not good enough to win on his own but with help from the referee he can get something for nothing. Why the hell hasnt anyone drafted a rule stating that if a call is in question and a player is found to have made an unjust "DIVE" he will be suspend for atlest one game? With Players getting bumped in the chest and falling on the ground holding their noses or getting tapped on the left leg but falling to the ground holding their right, REALLY??? Of couse the sport doesnt need our country's support but I would think more people like paul230 and others are out there, who have real passion for the game, would love to see change. But hey, remember, its FIFA we're really talking about. A body more corrupt that a gambling addicted politican. Payoffs and bribes would be very hard to mantain with instant replay or overnight reviews. NOthing will change.

[Dungheap 243]

Agree, the standard of refereeing has been utter undies.

 

Too many inconsistent decisions where the ref doesn't even consult his linesman before giving a red card for something he didn't see!

 

The trouble is, just as the tournament does not represent the best 32 teams in the world, it also doesn't have the best team of refs in the world either. Every region has their men and many are pants.

 

As has been said for zillions of years now: Time for video assistance. By the time the cheating cunts roll around 37 fucking times like they've been shot in the arse with the elephant gun, bitch to the ref and plead innocence,

 

The golden goal rule was another great attempt to enhance the game and proved very successful in Japan's J-League when it was tried on an experimental basis, but the European purists shot it down, probably because it added too much excitement to the game and teams were forced to play for a win!

[digavich 0]

Diving is IMHO the biggest blight on the game.

I see no reason to allow it to continue when there is technology to assist the officials in reducing it,it's probably not possible to eliminate it as there will allways be some tosser willing to try it on. Harsh penalties should be levied on those people, as it is the lowest act; akin to horse stealing in the old days.

I tend to agree with joekicker in as much as nobody wants to see the game held up interminably by replays, but Dungheap is right, by the time the alleged victim is back on his feet you could have bought a beer and drunk it!

 

If you don't want real time replays, they could be cited on video evidence viewed post game. Sure it would not stop players being wrongly red carded during the game but the perp would stand a strong chance of a harsh fine AND suspension for bringing the game into dissrepute. Just because the ref did'nt see you, doesnt mean you got away with it.

 

Of course, these rules (if implimented) would clear Italy of football players and possibly send the country bankrupt, but hey, it's a small price to pay, really..........................

[chacha 0]

My thing on the major decisions of bookings goals penalties is that each team should be given the right to appeal a major decission . Each team should be given 3 appeals at the start of the game .If they appeal & it fails then they have 2 left then 1 then none . If they sucede with an appeal then they keep the same number has they had before the appeal .

There should be a panel of 3 recently retired refs . That look at it & decide what is right. There are alot of very good retired refs out there that only retired because of the age rule on them .

It would not stop the game because the game has already stopped with major desisions

Edited June 22, 2010 by chacha

[bratpack 91]

I agree with everything you say but i doubt the rules will change, 1 thing i'd like to see changed is camera proof of incidents, the referees look at a replay in a controversial incident and then a decision is made, so no more pricks acting, like the 1 that succeeded in getting Kaka sent off last night, no more handball goals, Maradona, Luis Fabiano last night and Henry in the game against Ireland. These cheating bastards are ruining the game.

 

 

100% agree mate,there has to be camera proof as the game is getting faster,and many of the refs have never kicked a ball before and get conned all the time.

 

I also agree with point 3 of the op,the top refs in the world have to be appointed for all games.

 

Number one is new technology,with three ex players to make a decision on a particular incident.

[bratpack 91]

My thing on the major decisions of bookings goals penalties is that each team should be given the right to appeal a major decission . Each team should be given 3 appeals at the start of the game .If they appeal & it fails then they have 2 left then 1 then none . If they sucede with an appeal then they keep the same number has they had before the appeal .

There should be a panel of 3 recently retired refs . That look at it & decide what is right. There are alot of very good retired refs out there that only retired because of the age rule on them .

It would not stop the game because the game has already stopped with major desisions

 

very good post

 

Thius would make the captains role more important,with only 3 decisions to claim on.This would stop stupid camera rules for throw ins etc

[bratpack 91]

What about when a player is deemed to have dived,then this would constitute a free kick and if in the box,then penalty for the other team

Edited June 22, 2010 by bratpack

[chacha 0]

What about when a player is deemed to have dived,then this would constitute a free kick and if in the box,then penalty for the other team

In this situation the game would of stopped for what the ref considered a penalty. It would be up to the defending team to appeal it . The defender involved just shouts his capt to apeal .

Penalties being a major decission . I would say that it should only be possible to appeal for vital purposes so it dosent impose on the game to much

Edited June 22, 2010 by chacha

[bigdelta 46]

Diving is IMHO the biggest blight on the game.

I see no reason to allow it to continue when there is technology to assist the officials in reducing it,it's probably not possible to eliminate it as there will allways be some tosser willing to try it on. Harsh penalties should be levied on those people, as it is the lowest act; akin to horse stealing in the old days.

I tend to agree with joekicker in as much as nobody wants to see the game held up interminably by replays, but Dungheap is right, by the time the alleged victim is back on his feet you could have bought a beer and drunk it!

 

If you don't want real time replays, they could be cited on video evidence viewed post game. Sure it would not stop players being wrongly red carded during the game but the perp would stand a strong chance of a harsh fine AND suspension for bringing the game into dissrepute. Just because the ref did'nt see you, doesnt mean you got away with it.

 

Of course, these rules (if implimented) would clear Italy of football players and possibly send the country bankrupt, but hey, it's a small price to pay, really..........................

The Kaka yellow/red cards have been the worst so far.A travesty.Being run into by a player while walking away and being carded?The "flopper"should be red carded and banned from further competition.Why didn't the linesjerk/incompetent see it?Was he from Mali too?

So many Italy haters-it's good to be the 4x/present king!

Edited June 22, 2010 by LTGTR

[bigdelta 46]

So his father, a Chilean, was working in S.A. as a footballer. His mother was there - Chilean. They moved back to Chile when he was 10.

 

Are you serious ?

As serious as some of the idiocy in FIFA eligibility rules.You're born in a country,you play for that country,simple as that.How about this idiot-Communists best player is eligible to play for Japan & South Korea and and he chooses Communists.Go figure...........he showed his cell phone to his teammates,who had NEVER seen one.

Yellow card for Comunists-50% meal ration cut-give up 7 goals-death by starvation-along with the rest of the country.NK president Kim Jong I make everyone Ill should be playing for his team.He boasts tremendous sporting prowess,apparently scoring 7 hole in ones the 1st time he played.

Edited June 22, 2010 by LTGTR