Soccer vs football

[MeGoDanceNow 4,281]

Spouting delusion, instead of answering the question!

 

 

Sorry I thought it was obvious.

 

Okay, let me clarify. There's no question that some of the finest athletes in the world are soccer players. Also, if I see a bunch of guys playing pickup soccer in a park or something, then yeah, that's a sport.

 

My problem is with FIFA. There is such an enormous random element in soccer that it can't really be called a sport anymore. It's as if we played three innings of baseball, then the players rolled dice to see who wins the fourth inning. If that happened, I wouldn't call baseball a sport either.

 

At the same time, randomness makes for great gambling. That's why I call FIFA soccer a gambling vehicle more than a sport.

 

To wit:

• Constant problems with referees. Can you recall a game in this World Cup where there WASN'T a bad ref decision that was crucial to the flow, if not the result, of the game? Recall the wrongly accorded goal that won the World Cup for England in 1966, and lost it for England in the 80s with Maradona's "hand of God." Once a generation, I can tolerate that sort of thing. But EVERY GODDAM GAME? :
  
• And there's no video replay.
  
• You've got a pitch big enough to grow corn on and only three refs to watch it all. No wonder there's so much diving. The diving is an integral part of the game. It happens in ice hockey too, but not remotely as much as in soccer, where it's basically the whole game.
  
• And then what happens? Yellow card, red card. Yellow card means nothing, just a warning that a red card might be coming (except in the playoffs, when players can miss the next game, but another player will replace them). Red card means you play short-handed for the REST OF THE GAME. So the first is a verbal warning, the second the death penalty. WTF?
  
• And because there are no time-outs for commercials, like in ice hockey, you can't just keep playing in the event of a draw (in a playoff situation). So the penalty kicks. Bloody hell! Is that any way to decide the outcome of a game?
  

[Obsession 571]

Recall the wrongly accorded goal that won the World Cup for England in 1966, and lost it for England in the 80s with Maradona's "hand of God." Once a generation, I can tolerate that sort of thing. But EVERY GODDAM GAME? :

 

[*]And there's no video replay.

 

It's a sport. End of.

 

Don't believe what the English media say about the England team. The Maradona incident didn't cost them the world cup. You would have to be in the final to say that. I did laugh the other day when they listed all the "things" that "cost them world cups", from sending offs to Maradona. It's delusion. They wouldn't have won any of those cups if they got a "by" through those games.

 

Oh. And sports were invented before video replays. So your point is eh, ludicrous

 

I'll have a Heiniken

[MeGoDanceNow 4,281]

It's a sport. End of.

 

Don't believe what the English media say about the England team. The Maradona incident didn't cost them the world cup. You would have to be in the final to say that. I did laugh the other day when they listed all the "things" that "cost them world cups", from sending offs to Maradona. It's delusion. They wouldn't have won any of those cups if they got a "by" through those games.

 

Oh. And sports were invented before video replays. So your point is eh, ludicrous

 

The problem is that goals that didn't happen get recorded, and goals that did happen don't. All the time. That's not sport, it's a crapshoot.

 

Video replay itself isn't the point. The point is doing SOMETHING to keep this inflamed boil on the bell-end of soccer from spreading. If you can't use cameras, have more refs, or allow conferences among refs if one of the refs disputes the call. The point is, do SOMETHING. And if you can't find a solution, that doesn't mean the problem goes away. It's still a gambling vehicle, not a sport.

 

 

I'll have a Heiniken

 

First sensible thing you've said today.

[Seatown 0]

Shouldn't the fact that the World Cup Final match is being held at the Soccer City Stadium end the debate about what to call the game?

[atlas2 4,329]

Shouldn't the fact that the World Cup Final match is being held at the Soccer City Stadium end the debate about what to call the game?

 

 

Good point.................But in the end just alliteration...............doesn't win you the argument.

 

Anyway.......I can live with both names.

 

 

'You say toma'do and I say tomarto'

 

Just don't ask an American to, 'keep his pecker up' Or ask an American teacher to, 'hand you a rubber' Also a fanny is a fanny not an arse..If 'I'm pissed' I'm drunk,not angry. My 'pants' are my underwear...A 'fag' is a cigarette butt end, not a 'shirt-lifter' ......and 'gay' still means 'bright and vivacious'

 

......If I'm 'wicked' I'm 'bad' and 'bad' still means, 'not good.' And finally if my points are 'awful'.......that means you're filled with 'Awe' for what I've written.

 

'Toma'do, tomato..........pota'do potartoe...........Let's call the whole thread orff

 

 

 

 

 

It's FOOTBALL!!

[mmaaarrrkkk 41]

Shouldn't the fact that the World Cup Final match is being held at the Soccer City Stadium end the debate about what to call the game?

 

So Federation Internationale de Football Association should be renamed Federation Internationale de Soccer Association?

 

Ok FISA it shall be..........

 

Edited to highlight FIFA and FISA so it looks as convincing as Seatown's

Edited July 6, 2010 by mmaaarrrkkk

[Tarl 1]

The greatest showpiece in the game is being played at the Soccer City Stadium. Not sure that is just alliteration but makes you wonder.