The Myth of the Married/Sponsor Horde

[lovedog100 1,372]

I know that some bargirls receive financial assistance, but 100% seems pretty high to me. I'm not saying it's incorrect, but am interested in what other BMs think.

That would be an interesting question that none of us can answer. It will also depend on your definition of sponsor. I think of it as a man that is sending enough money to support the lady, so that she does not have to be in the business any longer. She may, or may not stay in the business while getting that support. I'm going to say I know about ten getting full sponsorship.

 

#1 I mentioned above, she claims 5 sponsors.

#2 and #3 are in school now. I don't see them anymore, so I have no idea if they are freelancing on the side, or have another boyfriend, but I do know that both are in school.

#4 Worked in one of the bars with a web cam, she quit the bar, and went to work in another bar with out a web cam.

#5 Quit selling pussy, but still works in a bar as service, she occasionally takes a barfine, and lives with a Thai man.

#6 Actually went home to the village,,,,to her husband and children. Her sponsor arrived in Pattaya, last night, she arrived yesterday morning.

#7 Got out of Pattaya where a sponsors friends might see her, and moved to a bar in Ban Chang

#8 Quit work, she gets enough to support herself, and her Thai boyfriend. They both live off of the sponsor.

#9 and #10 are cousins. They appear on the up and up, although I really don't see them much any more. When I do they are together, and not with a Thai or Farang man. I haven't heard any rumors, and they don't brag about getting over on a sponsor.

#11 Sponsor is in town, she is pretending to have quit the business, while paying her own barfine daily.

#12 I just met, she lives with a retired farang, and they both enjoy living off her three sponsors. I mean, they both think it's funny, and brag and laugh about the arrangement. While listening to them, it's hard to decide what you want to do most, throw up, or kick the shit out of them. If I keep thinking, I might remember another few.

 

Next there are partial sponsors. Men that send monthly money, but not enough to support her. The men know she is still working bar, but just wants to make her life easier. Most of these ladies are a bit older, or a bit on the chubby side, or not so good looking that they can support them selves just selling pussy. I would guess that I know about twice as many of that type of sponsored lady. Maybe more, because they aren't usually the types to brag about their situation. When the sponsor comes to town, she quits work, and takes care of him until he leaves. Usually getting her daily rate in the process.

 

The third sponsor, is the occasional sponsor. This is the one that gets most men, and most of the ladies have. When the Thai boyfriends motorbike breaks down, or he needs new tires for his car, she sends out 10 e-mails, 10 text messages, makes 10 phone calls, or a mixture of the three. It's always an emergency, rent is due and she has no money, mama's buffalo is sick, the roof on the house is leaking, motorbike accident, some sort of emergency where she needs money now. Maybe one will send it, maybe three will. There are actually books for sale in Pattaya telling the girls how to write the E-mails, and text messages. Now Torque will say it doesn't happen, however somebody is buying those books. I seriously doubt that they are being bough to slip under a table leg to keep a table from wobbling. I think that if we had a show of hands, most of us would have gotten one of those text, e-mails, or phone calls.

 

Of course, the first two types of sponsors can also expect to be the occasional sponsor as well, because he will get the same e-mails, texts, and phone calls.

 

Maybe after torque calls me a liar, negative, misogynists, or what ever he comes up with, I'll tell you about the third party sponsor.

[jaxxon55 252]

It is always amazing the number of long time farangs that think the bar girls confide in them and their wives and they are the only ones that really know and understand the bar girls. They think they are different. It's like reading a gossip magazine or watching a reality t.v. show and thinking you are gaining useful knowledge.

Jack

[lovedog100 1,372]

It is always amazing the number of long time farangs that think the bar girls confide in them and their wives and they are the only ones that really know and understand the bar girls. They think they are different. It's like reading a gossip magazine or watching a reality t.v. show and thinking you are gaining useful knowledge.

Jack

Odd, I kind of think of it the same way. Just how much goes on that we don't hear about? That would however make the numbers go up, contrary to torque's position.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Most don't announce it, but I have learned to spot a sponsor.

 

How do you spot a sponsor? Is there some telltale sign they have in common?

 

 

When I ask, they will usually admit it, and then ask me not to say anything to anybody. Quite frankly I'm uncomfortable with it.

 

Why ask if you know you're going to be uncomfortable with the answer?

 

jaxxon's assessment is pretty accurate IMHO.

[BigDUSA 71]

It is always amazing the number of long time farangs that think the bar girls confide in them and their wives and they are the only ones that really know and understand the bar girls. They think they are different. It's like reading a gossip magazine or watching a reality t.v. show and thinking you are gaining useful knowledge.

Jack

 

Prostitutes are very good at telling you what they think you want to hear.

[billsmith98 1]

Well I see it this way, if the ratio is less than 50% then it's better than the success rate of marriages in the USA. And if its worse than the cost is much cheaper than the 1/2 the guy looses to the ex.

 

So let nature take its course and as with anything else let the buyer beware.

[brotherbuzz 3,205]

Prostitutes are very good at telling you what they think you want to hear.

As it pertains to LOS.... Many don't have the verbal skills. Many don't care to bother. And IMO, the overwhelming majority in LOS fall into those 2 categories so it's a fairly mute point, unless, the 'John' lacks common sense and/or control of his emotions.

[grimsbyuk 13]

Many BMs here have "admitted" it.

 

I myself was happily married for several years before separating from my wife. Our separation had nothing to do with the sponsorship/financial scams often quoted, it just didn't work out. I never "sponsored" her, we had a prenup, she worked the entire time, and we remain on good terms (just was texting with her about our son). I am glad that I decided to get married for many reasons.

 

ME TOO!

BETTER TO HAVE LOVED AND LOST!!!! who was it said that???????C

 

ALWAYS REMEMBER HILL STREET BLUES> LETS BE FUCKING CAREFUL OUT THERE!

Edited June 3, 2011 by grimsbyuk

[bruiser 0]

Torque, you do know that about 1% of pattaya tourist read the forums don't you? That should give some new meaning to your statement "It would be far more accurate to say that over 99% of tourists need no advice whatsoever about being a sponsor or getting duped into marriage than to say that there is some horde of people needing rescue from it."

 

I have a feeling that your post is aimed at me and my post in the newbie section. I live in Pattaya, as does Bushcraft. Neither of us are stupid. We both agree on this subject. Both of us know many of this forums members. I know many of the FLB chat members. Most don't announce it, but I have learned to spot a sponsor. When I ask, they will usually admit it, and then ask me not to say anything to anybody. Quite frankly I'm uncomfortable with it. Often I know the lady has another sponsor, and just as often a Thai husband or boyfriend. I am between a rock and a hard place when I get this information. I really want to tell the man that he is being taken. However, he is really just an acquaintance that I see several times a year. I usually know the lady better, and am much better friends with her. If I were to tell this person that is not really a friend, I could end up getting a really bad reputation with the bar girls in Pattaya. Pattaya is a much smaller town than you think. I could end up with a group of moto taxi drivers giving me a very violent visit. So, I keep my mouth shut. It's hard, but I say nothing.

 

Most that read this forum regularly know that I have a live in GF. She was a bar girl, and privy to much more information than I am. Yet she makes sure I know about ladies that are getting more money from sponsors with out having to do anything, than I give her for taking care of me, my house, my motorcycles, and my dog. She pretty much tells me about most of them, no matter how much they are getting. I don't know where you live or what your experience is, but it seems very limited to me, or you are just really gullible.

 

MM isn't shy about calling a liar a liar on this board. So if I get this next part wrong, we can fully expect a correction. Not long ago I was in his bar and and talking to him when an ex-bar girl came in showing off her new sponsor. Now this is a girl NOT working bar. She very proudly told us that he was sponsor number five. This girl I know for a fact has had in the past, members of this very forum as a sponsor. You can make up all the numbers that you want. We are talking one girl here. I couldn't even guess as to the number of sponsors this one girl has had over the years. She is fairly smart, and obviously knows how to work men much better than they work her.

 

I can only guess that you live in some fairyland world full of unicorns, elves and such. Your Pattaya experience is zero, or your just an idiot. Since you can write, I'll assume it's lack of experience and being just a bit gullible. Between Bushcraft and myself we know literally hundreds of this forums members, and many more bar girls. While there may be some political differences, here, we are known not to be liars, and bull shiters. We would never make up crap on a subject as important as this. You will never have the experience or credibility that either of us have on this subject. Much less our combined experience. I have no idea what the purpose of your post is, but I think you would much better sticking to a subject that you actually have knowledge and experience in. This sure isn't it.

 

I'll give you a free pass on your math. Last month I made a simple post and screwed up the numbers considerably. It happens.

IMHO a pretty spot on post

For the record Bushcraft would have to be one of the more knowledgeable Pattaya Locals on the Forum for sure

[player 1]

IMHO a pretty spot on post

For the record Bushcraft would have to be one of the more knowledgeable Pattaya Locals on the Forum for sure

I would agree with what you are saying. Certainly don't have as many stories as residents have, but have seen and heard enough from my TGF to know that you are right on! It seems that Torgue is living in a different world then most, surprising, since he supposedly has traveled the world and seen it all.

 

I don't suppose he would accept an application to join Spanky and Alfalfa of the Little Rascals to join the "He Man Woman Hater's Club"?

[Gabor 296]

“An expat is often someone who knows little about his own people he spent a long time with, but knows everything about the foreigners he has spent a short time with.”

[lovedog100 1,372]

How do you spot a sponsor? Is there some telltale sign they have in common?

I probably spot them the same way that you do.

 

 

 

Why ask if you know you're going to be uncomfortable with the answer?

I would think that is obvious. So that I know what subjects to stay away from, and not stick my own foot in my mouth. I don't want trouble with him, or her.

jaxxon's assessment is pretty accurate IMHO.

 

It appears that we have different opinions on this matter. No problem.

[Hub 203]

How do you spot a sponsor? Is there some telltale sign they have in common?

 

They are easy to spot if you are looking.

Edited June 5, 2011 by Hub