Dengue Fever on the rise

[lovedog100 1,372]

With the start of high season, I want to alert everyone that Dengue fever is on the rise in Thailand, and Chonburi, which is where Pattaya is. Dengue fever is also called break bone fever, when your doctor asks where it hurts, all you can say is "everywhere" Dengue is carried by the daytime mosquito. The recent floods have caused the mosquito to flourish. Use a repellent with Deet in the daytime. I got Dengue last year, and it's knocked my dick in the dirt for 10 days. It will ruin your holiday if you get it. It took 6 months of fatigue, for me to get completely over Dengue. Dengue is easy to protect yourself from, don't let it ruin your holiday, because it will. Use Deet repellent during the day.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengue_fever

[tomcat76 327]

Yeah - with all that floodwater only slowly draining off, the mosquito population must be set to explode. 'Used to worry about dengue more in AC than in Thailand, but not this year.

[glynbuk 29]

How long will the threat of Dengue fever last ???

[2dave 8]

It is about right for this time of the year.

From memory, my stepson caught dengue late January or ealy February last year.

[jacko 8,766]

I thought it's peaked during the rainy season.

Sure, plenty of water about in Central and Bangkok, but not here.

We are well into the dry season here in Pattaya.... hasn't rained for a good while.

[tomcat76 327]

I thought it's peaked during the rainy season.

Sure, plenty of water about in Central and Bangkok, but not here.

We are well into the dry season here in Pattaya.... hasn't rained for a good while.

 

That at least is good news!

[joekicker 53]

How long will the threat of Dengue fever last ???

 

Forever. There's no preventative aside from killing all the mosquitoes which isn't going to happen. The point is that the threat goes up and down by the number of mosquitoes around. Which depends on standing water, etc. At some times of year, the threat of dengue is worse than others, but it never is zero.

 

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[Gabor 296]

A strange story... inj october a hungarian guy felt a little bit weak for 2-3 days and in one morning his hands were shaked... that's all, nothing more.... we went to the PIH and he was diagnosed with Dengue Fever.... All he got was Aspirine.... I thought this disease has much more serious symptomes....

[jacko 8,766]

And for my sins, 2 minutes after I posted, bloody mosquito bit me on the ankle, itches like hell.

Got the bastard with my zapper bat though!

[Grandpollo 366]

With the start of high season, I want to alert everyone that Dengue fever is on the rise in Thailand, and Chonburi, which is where Pattaya is. Dengue fever is also called break bone fever, when your doctor asks where it hurts, all you can say is "everywhere" Dengue is carried by the daytime mosquito. The recent floods have caused the mosquito to flourish. Use a repellent with Deet in the daytime. I got Dengue last year, and it's knocked my dick in the dirt for 10 days. It will ruin your holiday if you get it. It took 6 months of fatigue, for me to get completely over Dengue. Dengue is easy to protect yourself from, don't let it ruin your holiday, because it will. Use Deet repellent during the day.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengue_fever

 

I really doesn't affect the average person for six months. And the good news there are only four serotypes and you're immune after infection for each one so at worst if you don't get DHF after 4 bouts you'll never get it again.

 

I've had it twice so yay, half way there.

 

Good advice using DEET that's the gold standard for protection. If you can get ( the Canadian brand Muskol) you're set.

[Grandpollo 366]

A strange story... inj october a hungarian guy felt a little bit weak for 2-3 days and in one morning his hands were shaked... that's all, nothing more.... we went to the PIH and he was diagnosed with Dengue Fever.... All he got was Aspirine.... I thought this disease has much more serious symptomes....

 

The basic symptoms are like the flu with way worse joint pain. The big risk is hemorrhagic fever which if treated right is not fatal and if not can be. If you start bleeding from your eyes or anus that's what we in the medical profession call a bad sign.

[lovedog100 1,372]

A strange story... inj october a hungarian guy felt a little bit weak for 2-3 days and in one morning his hands were shaked... that's all, nothing more.... we went to the PIH and he was diagnosed with Dengue Fever.... All he got was Aspirine.... I thought this disease has much more serious symptomes....

Your friend didn't have Dengue. Aspirin is never given for Dengue, in fact your doctor (if competent) Will give a stern warning against taking aspirin. Symptoms are fever, head ache, eyes hurt, feeling like bones hurt, fatigue, rash, oozing blood from the skin, eyes bleeding. Expect some or all of the symptoms if you get Dengue.

[shambley 109]

can someone tell me the truth on yeast tablets - makes you less likely to mosquittos or not ?

 

told to take them a week before i visit and through visit, havnt tried it yet

 

trip in september I went to koh larn - 20 bites each leg - had deet in room on a plug in and a can pf spray- but after a swin in koh larn forget to resparay a few hours later and my legs were fecked - lesson learned

[Gabor 296]

Your friend didn't have Dengue. Aspirin is never given for Dengue, in fact your doctor (if competent) Will give a stern warning against taking aspirin. Symptoms are fever, head ache, eyes hurt, feeling like bones hurt, fatigue, rash, oozing blood from the skin, eyes bleeding. Expect some or all of the symptoms if you get Dengue.

 

My thoughts were the same.... however how to call a thai doctor in the Pattaya International Hospital incompetent ???

[Grandpollo 366]

Your friend didn't have Dengue. Aspirin is never given for Dengue, in fact your doctor (if competent) Will give a stern warning against taking aspirin. Symptoms are fever, head ache, eyes hurt, feeling like bones hurt, fatigue, rash, oozing blood from the skin, eyes bleeding. Expect some or all of the symptoms if you get Dengue.

 

There is no bleeding from the non hemorrhagic version (Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever or DHF) which affects few people and mostly people who have been infected before. The rest are classic Dengue the aches and the rash in particular.

 

I have been in Central America for 7 years and nobody I know has known anyone with DHF and the local health ministry reports maybe a dozen cases a year and this is where tens of thousands of people get it. Don't worry about DHF but let me tell you Dengue alone is the living shits by itself so prevention makes sense.

[lovedog100 1,372]

My thoughts were the same.... however how to call a thai doctor in the Pattaya International Hospital incompetent ???

Dengue thins the blood. That's why those infected with it ooze blood from their skin, and eyes. Internal bleeding as well. I don't care where a doctor is from. if he diagnoses Dengue Fever, then gives aspirin, which is a blood thinner , he is incompetent. Either in his diagnoses, treatment, or probably both.

 

One easy test doctors use when a patient comes in with Dengue fever is, to tie one of those stretchy rubber tourniquets that they use for drawing blood around your arm. They leave it on for a minute, when they take it off there will be a bruise around the arm, right where it was, or red spots where capillary's have burst, or leaked. While bruising that easily, would you want to take a blood thinner? A heart patient that is taking blood thinners, will probably be hospitalized as soon as diagnosed.

 

Like any infection, Dengue can be mild to severe. Mild being a fever and head ache behind the eyes, and severe life threatening. My own case was somewhere in the middle. However, had I been on holiday, it would have ruined my holiday. Ten days of laying in bed, eating nothing but watermelon, and a little bit of rice. Even watching TV was painful, after 20 minutes of watching, my eyes hurt so much I couldn't keep them open any longer. Something as simple as going to the toilet took so much energy, that there were times I considered pissing my shorts rather than get up and go. When I did go, I came back covered in sweat, and fatigued like I had just run a marathon. I had to sleep for an hour of two to recover from the short walk. For something so easily preventable with a Deet spray, it's not worth the risk.

[Gabor 296]

Dengue thins the blood.....

 

Thank you for the interesting and useful infos and your personal experience...

[joekicker 53]

I have been in Central America for 7 years and nobody I know has known anyone with DHF

 

Sorry to hear that. But haemorrhagic fever is common in Thailand. It varies year by year, but epidemics are frequent.

 

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[jacko 8,766]

I really doesn't affect the average person for six months. And the good news there are only four serotypes and you're immune after infection for each one so at worst if you don't get DHF after 4 bouts you'll never get it again.

 

I've had it twice so yay, half way there.

 

Good advice using DEET that's the gold standard for protection. If you can get ( the Canadian brand Muskol) you're set.

I recall a talk by Dr Ian Corness at the Expats on this subject and something he said was not really apparent in your post. I found this....

 

Infection with one of these serotypes does not provide cross-protective immunity, so persons living in a dengue-endemic area can have four dengue infections during their lifetimes.

(Note: it is the subsequent infections which are much more severe)

 

Namely after one infection, beware of a second.

[MM 6,562]

I recall a talk by Dr Ian Corness at the Expats on this subject and something he said was not really apparent in your post. I found this....

 

Infection with one of these serotypes does not provide cross-protective immunity, so persons living in a dengue-endemic area can have four dengue infections during their lifetimes.

(Note: it is the subsequent infections which are much more severe)

 

Namely after one infection, beware of a second.

 

I got exactly that from rick's post. I don't see what you're adding with this quote from Doctor Corness.

 

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[jacko 8,766]

I got exactly that from rick's post. I don't see what you're adding with this quote from Doctor Corness.

 

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He made no mention whatsoever in his post on the potential severity of a second infection.

In fact I thought he made light of it.

 

Also it is not a quote from Dr Corness, more an alternate source confirming something Dr Ian said at the presentation.

Edited November 30, 2011 by jacko

[lovedog100 1,372]

He made no mention whatsoever in his post on the potential severity of a second infection.

In fact I thought he made light of it.

 

Also it is not a quote from Dr Corness, more an alternate source confirming something Dr Ian said at the presentation.

Agreed. As Jacko said, with a second infection the patient has immunity to one strain of Dengue. The body's immune system starts fighting it's self when immune to one strain of Dengue, and getting another. The second infection is much more likely to be Hemorrhagic with bleeding through the skin, eyes, and internal organs. Ricks statement, seemed to trivialize a second infection, when there should be much more concern. Maybe the South American strains are weakened, or Rick has a very good immune system. Thailand's strains are not weakened.

 

As hard as I was hit with the first bout, I don't know that I would survive a second. I have been in contact with several guys from another forum that got Dengue at the same time I did. All of us were hit hard, and it took at least 6 months to get completely over Dengue. Until finding them, I thought I was having heart problems. I even went out and bought health insurance for the first time in 9 years, just in case. If Dengue was a trivial matter, or I wouldn't have posted two years in a row now.

[MM 6,562]

He made no mention whatsoever in his post on the potential severity of a second infection.

In fact I thought he made light of it.

 

Also it is not a quote from Dr Corness, more an alternate source confirming something Dr Ian said at the presentation.

 

He said And the good news there are only four serotypes and you're immune after infection for each one so at worst if you don't get DHF after 4 bouts you'll never get it again.​ I guess I read that to say if you don't get DHF (Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever, the worst version) after 4 infections, you're okay. I suppose that led me to believe it could get worse each time.

 

As ricktoronto has had 2 bouts of DF, he makes it clear he has been lucky so far. I suppose it comes down to how you read and how you interpret what someone says.

 

Thanks for clarifying that the quote was not from Dr. Corless, since earlier you led into the quote with the words something he said. Talk about confusing!

[butterflyblonde 30]

I quite like Dengue Fever.

[jacko 8,766]

 

Thanks for clarifying that the quote was not from Dr. Corless, since earlier you led into the quote with the words something he said. Talk about confusing!

I added 'I found this'.... recalling the good Docs words verbatim is beyond me.