Careful in those crosswalks...

[MM 6,562]

 

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Posted by Stop For Step on Sunday, November 1, 2015

[Gawd Elpus 798]

I have always been amazed at what we call in UK, Zebra crossings in Pattaya. There is almost no regard for them by vehicle users and are probably just as dangerous as any other part of the road. They appear to be cosmetic. Its different here, we have to stop if someone has left the pavement and using the crossing, and the penalties are very high for not doing so, if you hit a pedestrian on a crossing. That vid look very scary by not at all surprising. I am aware of the crossing on 2nd Road where you take your life into your own hands just hoping that traffic will stop for you. Sometimes it does, often not. I wonder if the motorists are ever prosecuted if they injure or kill a pedestrian walking across a marked crossing ??

[Bullfrog 2,224]

If somebody did that to my daughter going to school I would hunt the fcuker down, drug them, tie them up, gag them and slowly, slowly torture them...

[marleyboy 140]

I couldn't watch the end of this video. Truly shocking.

 

I love Thailand........but the lack of driving skills/common sense, scares the hell out of me.

 

Crossings mean absolutely zilch to most drivers in Thailand, along with driving on the wrong side of the road etc etc.

 

Every time I go to Thailand, road accidents are seen practically daily, sometimes more than a few a day I will see.

 

For the amount of cops you see on "the road" (I mean at junctions/police boxes etc etc) in Thailand , the driving is in general diabolical. I have a house on the "darkside" (Soi Khaotalo) Crossing Sukhumvit Road is an ordeal . The number of cars, trucks coaches etc etc literally doing hammering through through a red light? (I don't mean "just missing" a red light........I mean when the lights have changed to red bloody ages ago!).

 

Another thing which amazes me? Ambulances with sirens/lights on? They get NO help whatsoever by motorists, "letting them pass" etc etc.

 

The lack of driving skills in Thailand is truly woeful.

Edited November 5, 2015 by marleyboy

[keyman 1,413]

I'd heard that the only reason they have zebra crossings in Pattaya was so the ambulances knew where to pick the bodies up from!

 

 

 

KM

[js007 795]

When they first put in some of those pedestrian crossings on Second Road, many cars would just drive on through the light, just like it wasn't there. You'd have to be nuts to assume you wouldn't get run over crossing the street, just because there's a crosswalk there with a light.

[Fatboyfat 361]

Many years ago I asked a Thai driver with whom I was riding shotgun, "what is the crossing marked out on Sai 2 opposite Royal Garden Plaza all about" ? His genuine reply was that it was to make the road look pretty for the tourists! TIT !

[jacko 8,822]

I have always been amazed at what we call in UK, Zebra crossings in Pattaya. There is almost no regard for them by vehicle users and are probably just as dangerous as any other part of the road. They appear to be cosmetic. Its different here, we have to stop if someone has left the pavement and using the crossing, and the penalties are very high for not doing so, if you hit a pedestrian on a crossing. That vid look very scary by not at all surprising. I am aware of the crossing on 2nd Road where you take your life into your own hands just hoping that traffic will stop for you. Sometimes it does, often not. I wonder if the motorists are ever prosecuted if they injure or kill a pedestrian walking across a marked crossing ??

Coincidentally I was reading similar to this on Thai Visa. More often than not a relatively small fine and maybe a short driving suspension is what I see for causing death by dangerous driving. (I think I read 5000 baht fine and 3 month suspended!). There was also a 50 year old woman recently killed crossing North Rd pushing a bicycle. This video is horrifying and I think British tourists are in danger especially, because they hold Zebra crossings in high regard.

[Gawd Elpus 798]

Coincidentally I was reading similar to this on Thai Visa. More often than not a relatively small fine and maybe a short driving suspension is what I see for causing death by dangerous driving. (I think I read 5000 baht fine and 3 month suspended!). There was also a 50 year old woman recently killed crossing North Rd pushing a bicycle. This video is horrifying and I think British tourists are in danger especially, because they hold Zebra crossings in high regard.

Absolutely and they provide a completely false sense of security Never seen a lollipop lady in Thailand either where there are nearby schools.

[jacko 8,822]

Absolutely and they provide a completely false sense of security Never seen a lollipop lady in Thailand either where there are nearby schools.

Now that would be a dangerous job!

[Fatboyfat 361]

This video is horrifying and I think British tourists are in danger especially, because they hold Zebra crossings in high regard.

Especially as the flashing of headlights which often accompanies the approaching vehicle is normally considered in the UK as an invitation to "go ahead" , whereas in Thailand it means "Get the f*** out of my way" !

[Bob Belzy 150]

Shame that the Chinese tour groups don't make use of crossings :-)

[BeerBelly 1,026]

Everyone hit in the video (except maybe the one with the big truck) could have avoided getting hit by looking before crossing.

 

I remember when they installed the crossing lights in Pattaya. It didn't seem to make any difference if the light was red or not, and cars and especially motorcycles went right through the crosswalk. I don't even know if they are used any more. In the end, they may have caused more accidents and injuries than if they were not placed there at all because in Thailand and Pattaya in particular, it gives the pedestrian a false sense of security.

 

Everyone should follow their mother's instruction and look both ways before crossing the street.

[SlipSlopSlap 186]

One of my visits coincided with the crossing just being installed. The ones in front of Big C and Central Festival had all the drivers confused and if you stood nearby for a few minutes you would see bikes and cars sail through with the occasional turn of the driver's head as they realised they had just gone through a red light.

 

Then they seemed to turn off all the red pedestrian lights and it was a matter of luck as to what drivers did when they saw you.

 

Future visits I avoid the crossings and have gone back to simply crossing the road at a spot where I have a good view of the traffic in both directions.

 

I wonder how many will be injured or killed before they remove them?

[js007 795]

One of my visits coincided with the crossing just being installed. The ones in front of Big C and Central Festival had all the drivers confused and if you stood nearby for a few minutes you would see bikes and cars sail through with the occasional turn of the driver's head as they realised they had just gone through a red light.

 

Then they seemed to turn off all the red pedestrian lights and it was a matter of luck as to what drivers did when they saw you.

 

Future visits I avoid the crossings and have gone back to simply crossing the road at a spot where I have a good view of the traffic in both directions.

 

I wonder how many will be injured or killed before they remove them?

 

Maybe the Thai authorities should start handing out stiff fines for people who don't understand that stop means stop? I bet that would work.

 

I've lived all around the USA. In some states, they really do enforce the school zone speed limits. The fine for speeding can be $500. In those states, people pay attention. In other states, the school zone sings are posted, and yet people speed right through. The cops don't seem to care.

[jacko 8,822]

Everyone hit in the video (except maybe the one with the big truck) could have avoided getting hit by looking before crossing.

 

I remember when they installed the crossing lights in Pattaya. It didn't seem to make any difference if the light was red or not, and cars and especially motorcycles went right through the crosswalk. I don't even know if they are used any more. In the end, they may have caused more accidents and injuries than if they were not placed there at all because in Thailand and Pattaya in particular, it gives the pedestrian a false sense of security.

 

Everyone should follow their mother's instruction and look both ways before crossing the street.

In the UK we were taught a chant as kids at school, (at the road stop, look right and look left etc) but it was later sensibly modified to include keep looking both ways all the way across. The big issue, as I discovered last night nearly being hit by 3 idiot Arabs on a bike is undertaking. It seems completely brainless to me not to consider why that car in-front may well be stopped and blindly whiz up its inside. It will be a long time before this bad driving and selfish attitude is improved.

[MM 6,562]

When crossing where the traffic is stopped, I always peek around the car that I'm in front of for any oncoming motorbike traffic using the gap I am about to cross.

[BeerBelly 1,026]

... but it was later sensibly modified to include keep looking both ways all the way across. ...

Yes, you are right about that. I always pause in front of stopped cars and poke my head out to make sure there is no one coming when crossing even in Western countries. Being on the right side of the law wouldn't be much consolation while laying in the hospital because some driver wasn't paying attention. Here it is easily ten times more likely that such drivers would pass stopped vehicles.

 

Where I worked in California, my company had quite a few buildings close together in a city. They referred to it as a campus. And many of the employees were fairly fresh graduates. And every week someone would get hit by a car while crossing the road. It got so bad that they put out orange flags at the crosswalks pedestrians could wave in an attempt to get drivers' attention. They also had the police come to monitor the crosswalks and ticket drivers who didn't obey the laws.

 

The extremely pedestrian friendly college campuses encouraged a behavior that doesn't work in the real world. I'm sure most of the accidents could have been avoided if the pedestrians were paying attention.

 

Another issue that's come up in California are cyclists who use the sidewalks instead of the roads. They seem to have the attitude of a pedestrian but the speed of a vehicle. So when they fly out into the intersection in a crosswalk, they are going much much faster than a pedestrian giving less time for the drivers to react. The police who were called out also ticketed cyclists for riding on the sidewalk as well.

[Chester007 175]

I have always been amazed at what we call in UK, Zebra crossings in Pattaya. There is almost no regard for them by vehicle users and are probably just as dangerous as any other part of the road. They appear to be cosmetic. Its different here, we have to stop if someone has left the pavement and using the crossing, and the penalties are very high for not doing so, if you hit a pedestrian on a crossing. That vid look very scary by not at all surprising. I am aware of the crossing on 2nd Road where you take your life into your own hands just hoping that traffic will stop for you. Sometimes it does, often not. I wonder if the motorists are ever prosecuted if they injure or kill a pedestrian walking across a marked crossing ??

Now that I'm here,i realize that the division lines on the roads are merely suggestions. I have also discovered that taking a motorcycle taxi is less dangerous than walking down these so called sidewalks/streets.

[Chester007 175]

I'd heard that the only reason they have zebra crossings in Pattaya was so the ambulances knew where to pick the bodies up from!

 

 

 

KM

Too soon...

[Chester007 175]

Absolutely and they provide a completely false sense of security Never seen a lollipop lady in Thailand either where there are nearby schools.

I wouldn't be able to send my children to school w/o me dropping picking them up

[Chester007 175]

When crossing where the traffic is stopped, I always peek around the car that I'm in front of for any oncoming motorbike traffic using the gap I am about to cross.

 

YES.....I know what you mean. I've had more near misses with mb's than cars. At night the one light blends into the car lights. I would have all Motorcycles have a different shade of light so if they are in front of a car it's not blended as just the car.

[Chester007 175]

Yes, you are right about that. I always pause in front of stopped cars and poke my head out to make sure there is no one coming when crossing even in Western countries. Being on the right side of the law wouldn't be much consolation while laying in the hospital because some driver wasn't paying attention. Here it is easily ten times more likely that such drivers would pass stopped vehicles.

 

Where I worked in California, my company had quite a few buildings close together in a city. They referred to it as a campus. And many of the employees were fairly fresh graduates. And every week someone would get hit by a car while crossing the road. It got so bad that they put out orange flags at the crosswalks pedestrians could wave in an attempt to get drivers' attention. They also had the police come to monitor the crosswalks and ticket drivers who didn't obey the laws.

 

The extremely pedestrian friendly college campuses encouraged a behavior that doesn't work in the real world. I'm sure most of the accidents could have been avoided if the pedestrians were paying attention.

 

Another issue that's come up in California are cyclists who use the sidewalks instead of the roads. They seem to have the attitude of a pedestrian but the speed of a vehicle. So when they fly out into the intersection in a crosswalk, they are going much much faster than a pedestrian giving less time for the drivers to react. The police who were called out also ticketed cyclists for riding on the sidewalk as well.

That wouldn't work here as people would just think it's another Chinese tour group

[keyman 1,413]

Too soon...

 

 

What?????????????????????

[Chester007 175]

 

 

What?????????????????????

I liked the dark humour, when someone usually says something that's in the dark humour range....the reply is Too soon. It's not a dig.

Well in Canada anyway

Edited November 8, 2015 by Chester007