Gabor

I'm happy with a little gas chamber, I don't want too much... But it seems on the airports the anti smoking gestapo wins to humiliate the poor addicts... My knowledge: Kijev ( Ukraine ) A good, wide smoking section Budapest ( Hungary ) Smoking allowed in the bars Istambul ( Turkey ) Total ban I'm interested if someone travelled lately through Zurich ? I have a pretty good offer..

Yes, happened in the past ( only years ago in the original page, which was hacked finally ) ... a few member uploaded questionable pix. In every case someone reported me a pic I deleted it.. However funny, some of them uploaded the same pix under their name... I had no report about stolen pix in the last 2 years

It's a pain in the ass to download the huge pix some members posting... There are many good advices how to download a useful resize proggie, how to install it, how to resize the pix... etc... etc... Also many times we can see just a X instead of the pix because of the prudish censorship... Sometimes you can't upload more pix, because of the board limits... hassles... I recommend to you to join our website to avoid the hassles... ( FREE... no any payment or donation asked ) When you upload your pix the board will resize it automatically for a board friendly size.... ( for the maximum enjoyment ) I myself the admin ... so you may be sure I will not be a prudish asshole.. NO limits of your pix... For the barowners.... you are also welcomed to store your pix ( in the bar pix section ) and add your comments or anything you feel right.. IF you have more, than 35 pix to upload ( and ready to maintain them regular I will open a separate topic and giving you the admin rights ) Drop in, see around and decide... ( we are a non profit site, made and sponsored by some pattaya fans... we aren't interested with any Pattaya bar or any businesses in Pattaya ) The Pattaya Fun page

I try to be independent here... just to share the facts ... ( try to banter there and I will be ready to swallow you )

The new and improved picture gallery / photo storage page is available... no double logins anymore... just login on the main page and use the whole site with one login...

use my photostorage page BTW Hammer uses it sometimes.... and the pix are still there... ( a hint... see my signature ) BTW... don't use it for a week... than it will be OK...

No pix....

Some investors ( no Pattaya business interested guys, just some wealthy hungarian pattaya fans can afford it as a toy) bought my picturial page and inserted it in the site including the ruins of my old linkpage ( any new submitted links are welcomed ) and a new mini forum... Please spam the forum to help the start :-) The 6000+ registered members are installed, so you can login with your old login and password if you was a member...in the new site and in the photo gallery as well. ( Yur profile in the new site is empty.. soon this database will be the only available, so renew it if you wish... ) We are independent from any Pattaya related businesses. We want an uncensored and independent board with content.. . WITH CONTENT... no board wars, no personal oneliners, just to share... a small, low traffic, but quality forum with real knowledges...( business offers are welcomed... as the established criticism of the bars ) You can flame even me or post whatewer you wish we will not censore it...until it has any informative content...and don't touch the taboos... Welcome in the new location: The Pattaya Fun Page http://www.thepattayafun.com ( with Martin's permit )

Interesting reminder... I don't got even a free beer in this year...

On my recent trip I barfined the most of the girls from the CATZ... On my recent trip CATZ is the winner... Also found the best attitude of the girls.. So for me the number one... OK... maybe there are many other bars with more stunners, but considering the look and the attitude percentage for me CATZ is the number one... on this recent trip... ( aware ... I slagged the CATZ for years )

Despite I'm fully agree with your point of view your move will be illegal... IF.. If I would be debunked ( never will be as I'm accept the unwritten rules ) I would report to the police about the theft of my belongings and being evil ( revenge ) notice them the content of the recorded files... IMO... much better policy to asking the guilty customer kindly to delete the files and check it.. and a free drink approaching... Your rude act may be beat back to you... You are not an authority licenced to confiscate anything... OK... you can threaten the customer with your thai bulldogs, but still illegal...

Depends what do you want ? If pretty girls, then.... If you want to insinuate about me ... you are late... many times before this price reducing smuggled my goulash in and guzzled it with numerous girls...

Got her out Yesterday again a free night following we found her a new bar to work....

OK... being punctual: I'm not aware about the increase...

To be honest I don't know... I can't give you a proper answer as I don't plan to BF any hostesses from there...

I introduced 2 girls to the Secrets, but none of them started to work there... Also introduced a girl to the Lennie's and she worked there a while. Recently I don't mentioned where I want to introduce her if the time comes.. I visited the Secrets bar twice on my recent trip, but not barfined a girl. However as I mentioned in an other board I had no problem with the 1000 baht barfine as it is valid only until mindight, if I wished to BF a coyotee not a big deal to wait for this time ( there may be different issues ) there are much bigger frauds around the city... Also must to mention the 400 baht barfine for the hostesses, which one is more, than acceptable, as we know the barfines determined from the venue you barfine the girls and not by the quality of the product. I post on the Secrets board because IMO still the best and busiest board despite the existent issues... A board is good or bad because of the members, the traffic and the available infos... at least for me. Anyway.. I post everywhere where/when I feel I have something to add... true my mood is not the same garrulous like it was in the heydays... maybe became older... maybe other reasons...

Visited today... a few pretty girls and a few fatties hunting for the farangs ( or for the drinks ) ... that's good... the bad: 3 farang visitors, the barfine is still 1500... The change from 1000 baht come back like I gave 500 baht ( the well known old trick ) At least they admitted the " mistake " and returned with the right amount of the money... ( no draught beer, Tiger is 120, lady drink is 120 ) No problem, agreed with the mamasan and the girl we liked each other to meet on the next day, when the barfine will be back to the normal.. However.. Fucking fraudulent mamasan deluxe.. The girl I met yesterday and the chemical worked.... so she awaited me tonite with the promised ( by the mamasan ) 600 barfine and avoided the other customers.. We had several drinks together ( including the numerous lady drinks ) When I mentioned about the barfine she told me straight: You like too much this girl, so you must pay still the 1500 baht barfine... not for the bill but for me.. Of course I denied the cheat, the girl almost cried... This fuckin bitch and the belgian owner lost one of their best girl, we agreed after her next payday I will introduce her for an other bar, where no such bastards abusing the customers and the girls... ( and until that time I will fuck her for barfine free in her free time... despite I'm not a big fan of the daytime fucks... but I will do it for her to compensate her bad luck with the sad sad loser con men runs this bar... )

Pattaya, one of the world's most renowned seaside resorts, thrives on tourism in general and prostitution in particular, even though the flesh trade is illegal in Thailand. Known for its notorious and flourishing sex trade, the tourist resort does not only have Thai women offering their bodies for sale, but others who come from the far corners of the globe and who are, ironically, given a one-year tourist visa when they arrive. Authorities reluctantly admit the number of foreign prostitutes in Pattaya is increasing every year. Although crimes related to prostitution have not caused any alarm bells to ring in the tourist resort, Pattaya's police chief Pol Col Noppadol Wongnom is getting concerned. Pol Col Noppadol, as well as local Mayor Itthipol Khunpluem, are both worried that the number of foreign tourists visiting Pattaya might gradually decline if they no longer feel safe in the world-renowned resort. They have good reason to worry _ there is a lot of money at stake. Many tourists and expats call it ''Paradise on Earth'', while others know it as ''Sin City'', a place where worldly bliss for many is available at a small hotel just around the corner. One of Pattaya's main businesses is the flesh trade, run either on a voluntary or forced basis, with many poor local women seeing it as a place to make some quick money. Pattaya attracts a large number of ''customers'' from abroad, who come into the country as tourists, businesspeople, retirees and include residing expats, and these ''customers'' generate a colossal cash flow in and around the town. As much as 60 billion baht in cash was spent in Sin City by an estimated six million tourists, including Thais, in one year, according to Charnyut Hengtrakul, a former counsel attached to the Ministry of Tourism and Sports. Of that huge sum of money, a large portion is spent on sex for sale. The authorities apparently choose to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to prostitution, which is not considered a real crime there. They have said that nothing could be done as long as the flesh trade was carried out in a ''voluntary and hidden'' fashion and money changed hands in secrecy. Authorities have cracked down on drugs and burglaries throughout the tourist city, but prostitution has prospered alongside money-laundering businesses mostly run by foreigners, said one local source who did not want to be named. Gone are the days when Pattaya was a popular destination for American GIs on R&R in the '60s and early '70s, who loved it for its beaches and booze. Today, only the foolish would bother to swim or dive in the dirty water in the bay. Many now choose to take a boat to Koh Larn, a nearby island, to enjoy the sun, sand and sea. Both Thai and foreign visitors admit Pattaya has thrived because of its night-time entertainment, and there are about 70 go-go bars and 800 beer bars in the city, and at the majority of these establishments the biggest money-spinner is often sex for sale. In every nook and cranny of the city there are hundreds of first-class, second-class or no-class hotels, high-rise condominiums, foreign-owned beer bars run by Thai women and glitzy go-go bars where there are ample opportunities for prostitutes to ply their trade day in, day out. The women in Pattaya's sex-for-sale business cater to a wide range of clients, and while most prefer farang (Western) customers or Arabs, there are also the boisterous tourists who party day and night, affluent businessmen and even grumpy old retirees. Among Pattaya's foreign prostitutes are some from Russia, followed by Ukraine and Uzbekistan. Very few, if any, are believed to be running their own sex businesses independently. Under the guise of running various vaguely-defined businesses in town, Russian pimps, both male and female, collect their share of the profits directly from these young foreign prostitutes on a daily or regular basis. The number of Russian prostitutes and those from the former satellite states of the Soviet Union was thought to be only a few hundreds during Pattaya's low season, but their numbers increase dramatically during the high season, which runs from October until March. So how much does it cost for a one night stand? It depends. If you're a regular, farang client, you'd pay at least 1,500 baht for a single activity known locally as a ''private dance'' or a ''short time'', which lasts no longer than one and a half hours. The price asked for a short time can sometimes double, and it does not depend on the prostitute's looks or abilities, but simply on the possibility that the customer is new in town and ignorant of the going rate. For farang customers, a full night of sex, known locally as a ''long time'', with a Russian prostitute can cost 4,000 to 5,000 baht. For Arab customers, the going rate is 2,000 baht for a short time late in the afternoon, while the rate may double for an overnight session. For Thai customers, spending some time with a foreign girl is more expensive. They pay at least 2,500 baht for a private dance late in the afternoon or early evening, and at least 2,000 baht for late night, short-time sex. In only a few cases were long-time private dances offered by Russian prostitutes to Thai men. But for Thai men who insist on staying overnight with working girls from Russia, they have to shell out the hefty sum of 10,000 baht or more. Russian pimps are said to collect roughly more than half of the money earned by their prostitutes, and in some cases as much as 70% is taken from women who have only recently arrived. In most cases, the air tickets that bring young Russian women from Moscow to Bangkok, which cost up to 70,000 baht, are paid not by the prostitutes but by their pimps. The pimps get their investment back quickly in this illicit, yet highly-profitable business. At times the pimps and girls get an opportunity to make more than the regular hourly rate when a customer asks a Russian prostitute to stay with them for a number of weeks, or sometimes months. The customers, mostly foreigners or Arabs, have to pay a lump sum, which amounts to much more than the hourly or nightly rates http://www.bangkokpost.com/210908_Spectrum...2008_spec19.php

Hmm... you may be right... my apologies to the poster I flamed... I was just tired from the married/in relationship Pattaya guys spamming around the boards... I was a little bit upset, but nothing to do with the mentioned post or this board... Sorry again... I was a prick... I can't wait to visit this great venue...

I "like" the trip reports stating " I visited with my Thai GF "... who the hell interested about the married/in relationship guys experiences ? We visiting the places to get the best girls, not to buy a cold beer... we can buy cold beer in the 7/eleven...

For me fully understandable...

Yes, she looks like... but for the first sight she changed somehow.. I don't really know what, but I myself was confused... Thanx MM to clarify... About the map... more confused... South Pattaya Road and Thepprasit road on the map.... it's a huge distance...

I hope the place will be a success to get some long term TGs... the same what I'm looking for in the beer bar's freelancers.. no BF, stay with her for a few days...OR ... to find the disco freelancers for ST or LT.... IF it will be a short time paradise for the ugly beach road skanks.... it will be not my place... maybe for a good lunch in a really nice environment for reasonable prices... IMHO to collect the coconut bar monsters is a bad recipe... those ugly monsters will frighten off the potentional paying customers, the coconut bar customers will buy their drinks anyway in the 7/eleven and IMHO happier to bargaining on the discreet beach road, than in a frequent venue... Targetting the beer bar and disco freelancers would be the right choice... IMHO.... IMHO... I'm not an expert barowner, I don't have any experience in the bar business... my rant was just about my view...or better say... my hopes...