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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Bolognese sauce Fettuccine with Bolognese ragù Type Sauce Place of origin Bologna, Italy Main ingredients Ground meat (beef or veal, sometimes pork), onions, celery,carrot, tomato paste, wine Cookbook:Bolognese sauce Bolognese sauceBolognese sauce, known in Italian as ragù alla bolognese, is a meat-basedsauce originating from Bologna, Italy. In Italian cuisine, it is customarily used to dress "tagliatelle al ragù" and to prepare "lasagne alla bolognese". In the absence of tagliatelle, it can also be used with other broad, flat pasta shapes, such as pappardelle or fettuccine, or with short tube shapes, such as rigatoni orpenne. Genuine ragù alla bolognese is a slowly cooked sauce, and its preparation involves several techniques, including sweating, sautéing andbraising. Ingredients include a characteristic soffritto of onion, celery and carrot, different types of minced or finely chopped meat (generally bovine, includingbeef, and possibly pork, such as pancetta), wine and a small amount of tomato concentrate. The earliest documented recipe of an Italian meat-based sauce (ragù) served with pasta comes from late 18th century Imola, near Bologna. In 1891 Pellegrino Artusi first published a recipe for a meat sauce characterized as being "bolognese". While many traditional variations do exist, in 1982 the Italian Academy of Cuisine registered a recipe for authentic ragù alla bolognese with the Bologna Chamber of Commerce (incorporating some fresh pancetta and a little milk). In Italy, ragù alla bolognese is often referred to simply as ragù. Outside Italy, Bolognese sauce often refers to a tomato-based sauce to which mince (beef or pork) has been added; such sauces typically bear little resemblance to ragù alla bolognese. Whereas in Italy ragù is not used with spaghetti,[1] so-calledspaghetti bolognese has become a popular dish in many other parts of the world..... Spaghetti bolognese[edit] Spaghetti bolognese with thyme and basil So-called spaghetti alla bolognese (also variously known as spaghetti bolognese, esparguete à bolonhesa, spaghetti bolognaise and colloquially in Commonwealth countries as spag bol) is a pasta dish invented outside of Italy, consisting of a meat sauce served on a bed ofspaghetti.[23] The sauce is commonly prepared from ground beef, tomato, onion, bacon, spices, possibly cream and additional vegetables such as carrots, celery, or parsnip. The dish is often topped with a sprinkling of grated Parmigiano cheese. Although spaghetti alla bolognese is very popular in various countries outside of Italy, ragù is never served with spaghetti in Bologna (or elsewhere in Italy), as the pieces of meat do not adhere well to this kind of pasta.[23] In recent decades, the dish has become very popular in France, Iran, Libya, Brazil, Germany,Austria, Hungary, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway. It is called spaghetti med köttfärssås in Swedish; spagetti ja jauhelihakastike in Finnish; spaghetti med kødsovs in Danish;[24] bolognai spagetti in Hungarian; and spaghetti og kjøttdeig in Norwegian; or simplybolognese. Most of these dishes have ground beef and grated cheese as the main ingredient, other ingredients can vary or even be omitted. A version of this dish is popular in the United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia where it is often referred to as spag bol orspag bog.[25] In the United States, the dish is often called simply "spaghetti", or "spaghetti and meat sauce"; the sauce - a tomato-and-ground-beef sauce that bears little resemblance to the ragù served in Bologna—is typically called "spaghetti sauce",[26] and the term "bolognese" is rarely applied. In Iran, this dish is simply referred to as "macaroni" and usually contains Turmeric as the main seasoning of the ground beef, as well as diced, skin-less potatoes in the spaghetti sauce. Many Iranians make Tahdig out of the bottom of the spaghetti as it is simmering. MORE here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolognese_sauce Nothing about any sausages in it...Yorta...

You may like it, nothing wrong with this....But I dare to say, we... hungarians knows better the italian way of the cooking, being a few hours drive from Italy, not from 18 hours to fly from Australia.... Maybe you are fooled in Australia, as an example: the hungarian goulashes sold here in Pattaya.... a cheese omelet closer to the hungarian goulashes, than the food sold here in Pattaya under the same name... What is your problem ??? I just share my own opinion... OK, I know, many westeners would write bragging trip reports even from Guantanamo.. ( you make your holiday ) but I try to be sober and critical...no more, no less... not to insult you... You raised some interesting facts, I can't argue....also agree, for some people the packaging is important, but not for me... and I know those people who wants the packaging are still valid...and right for their choice....So let forget the 50 bah duck noodle soup served with plenty ducks, veggies vs the 265 baht minimalistic spaghetti.... Compare the apples with the apples... the huge english breakfasts ( 100-150 baht ) including the imported black pudding, the quantity of the meat on the table with this one gulp sphagetti....for 265 baht...served in the same farang style restaurants...

Whilst I'm agree with what you say, I still think, the main differences lie in the quality of the sauces...imagine the differences between the thai style fat, sickening and sweet mayonnaise and a fresh yoghurt sauce... I have no any favourite places, but my experience says, the arab restaurants gives the best quality...but I'm not an expert about the Pattaya döner scene...

70-80 baht... and still huge income... Let see the details... 500 gram pasta enough for 7-8 portion like this : 60 baht 500 gram tomato paste enought for 8-12 portion is 50 baht 500 gram grounded beef enough for 5-6 portion is 50-60 baht ( not talking about the cheap sausages ) 100 gram of parmesan enough for 10-15 portions is 120 baht ( basilic, oregano, marjoram ... no costs... 10 baht for 10 portion in Hungary ) garlic: 5 baht and you will not use the half... Onion. 10 baht for 10 portion.. Oil: 1 baht / portion. Gas / electricity: 1 baht / portion Renting fee for the restaurant: A big question... probably the biggest fee the owner must to pay.... so you pay for the food the renting fee...not the food... The staff: probably 10.000-15.000 baht / person... serve 3000 + food.. ( 2.5-3 baht / food ) ETC...,..but still not 267 baht for a lousy, samall portion spaghetti......

True.. and I cook myself at home, this is my hobby and I do it good... Just a side note.... cooking a thai food not worth at home, buying the many ingredients, I will use only the half or less of them... cheaper to go to a restaurant... Farang food: I will cook myself, not worth to pay the " farang factor "... probably only the full english breakfasts worth to order in the restaurants...only because of the competition... See the differences: not a thai food... a full english breakfast ( 100-150 baht ) vs a lousy spaghetti uses not beef, but cheap sausages...and a miniature portion.. ( 267 baht )

Conscious consumer I don't like when I was considered as a rip off material...just principal...Let see... my old example... a wonton soup costs 30 baht... when the wonton served separately, placed a little piece of dill on it and called " pelmeni " ( a russian food, similar to the wonton ) and sold for 150 baht....just because of the brain dead russians...what do you call it ?

Lamp doner medium.... BTW... IMO... the doners are the same all around Pattaya, not the rocket science.... the big-big differences, the key question ... the right or wrong sauces...

Still overpriced for a piece of brad dough, a few drops of ketchup ( called pizza sauce )... ok... the cheese is expensive in Thailand...

Not cheap ( caaling it bargain is ridiculous ) at all to compare with thai foods, but still nice efforts and loook delicious... maybe worth a try...

Ingredients of the 267 baht spaghetti probably worth 20 baht... nothing else, than the farang robbery. IMO.

I still see no any .pdf file or any links... OK... a link for you a one month stay from 10 december to 09 january.... http://www.booking.com/searchresults.html?src=index&nflt=&ss_raw=Pattaya&from_autocomplete=1&error_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.booking.com%2Findex.en-gb.html%3Fsid%3Df61e8cd5ae87d22473910937b398114a%3Bdcid%3D1%3B&dcid=1&lang=en-gb&sid=f61e8cd5ae87d22473910937b398114a&si=ai%2Cco%2Cci%2Cre%2Cdi&ss=Pattaya%2C+Thailand&checkin_monthday=10&checkin_year_month=2014-12&checkout_monthday=9&checkout_year_month=2015-1&no_rooms=1&group_adults=2&group_children=0&dest_type=region&dest_id=5757&ac_pageview_id=e5cf8192d1f501ae&ac_position=0&ac_langcode=en&ac_suggestion_list_length=5 And filtering on the condos... http://www.booking.com/searchresults.en-gb.html?sid=f61e8cd5ae87d22473910937b398114a;dcid=1;ac_position=0;ac_suggestion_list_length=5;checkin_monthday=10;checkin_year_month=2014-12;checkout_monthday=9;checkout_year_month=2015-1;class_interval=1;csflt=%7B%7D;dest_id=5757;dest_type=region;dtdisc=0;from_autocomplete=1;hyb_red=0;inac=0;interval_of_time=undef;nha_red=0;no_rooms=1;redirected_from_city=0;redirected_from_landmark=0;redirected_from_region=0;review_score_group=empty;score_min=0;si=ai%2Cco%2Cci%2Cre%2Cdi;src=index;ss=Pattaya%2C%20Thailand;ss_all=0;ss_raw=Pattaya;ssb=empty;sshis=0&;or_radius=3;;nflt=ht_id%3D201%3B;unchecked_filter=hoteltype

You may be right, I talked about some hotel rooms I visited my friends stayed in....for the mentioned 2-6000 baht / night prices... Any sources of the infos you told: " The Industry standard tends to be 32 SqM+." ? I mean official sources, not just the biased opinions, like mines were.... My biased opinions were based only on my own feelings....living in my 42 sqm condo I felt myself in a shoebox in my buddie's hotel rooms...

We are talking about two dramatically different kind of visitors... 1. Tourists coming here for 1-2-3 weeks and change their plans from a 15-25 sqm hotel room costs 2-6000 baht / night to the condo options costs 800-1500 baht / night... the minus: no hotel services... the plus: no minibar, but real fridge and a kitchen... Any sober guy can make their decision which one to choose... 2. Expats living here... maybe with family...of course different demands...

Hi mate... posting from the "z" category thai standard, run down condo you live in...I don't really understand your question... A standard hotel room is between 20 and 25 sqm... Ok... to be correct: A large studio condo.... not a 300 sqm 4 bedroom condo...

Talk to Imm... she has an offfice on the first floor, she can organize everything. imm@ViewTalayRentARoom.com + 66 (0) 861-541-307 + 66 (0) 38 252-313 http://www.viewtalayrentaroom.com/

I have rooms available: oct 27 - nov 15, dec 02 - dec 21, jan 23 - feb 05 http://vt2a.weebly.com/

I want to sell it, because it knows too much for me...( my mate told me it can do the HD thing ) All I want is a very very simple media player, one USB hole for my hard disc, one HDM hole for the TV and only a few buttons like play, pause, fast forward, fast backward and the delete / copy / move button....nothing more....and I don't care about the HD...any ideas ??? I wasted already so many times and money to try the pompous " all in all " gadgets... I don't need... I can change this tool, even to pay something extra to get that very simple gadget I'm hunting for.... I had this very simple tool I was happy for years with... but it gave up... and now I can't find any similar thing, just the " smart " tools knows too much for me... As I mentioned already... I found only thai sites...

ouch... I saw it in the Central for 3990...

I see... I found only thai language websites...

Media player, photo player, video player, google market, gaming, WIFI inside, mini bluetooth keyboard + remote control and many more. http://hdplayerthailand.com/news_detail.asp?topic_id=981 http://www.papayatop.com/aconatic-an-stb292-smart-android-box/ For sale : 2200 baht.

Pattaya to be rebranded a World sports destination http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/NewsEN/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNECO5710140010007

Interesting... are the pattaya cabs turning the metre on ???

Opened it in a new window... it's OK... problem solved...

tried again... still not exists...

Everythings works ok... but when i click on this page http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/topic/63710-gogo-bars-on-your-blacklist/page-2 It says the page don't exists... whilst the first page is OK...