Airbus and Boeing products running behind schedule

[MrMango 667]

i work for airbus and the 380 is THE BEST PLANE ever made and will far surpass the dreamliner which has not

even been in the air yet so get alife

What have you been smoking! I hope you are not assembling 380's in your condition!

The 787 is flying and has been for a while -

 

Got it?

 

 

 

and when the 350 comes into flight next year will be the next airbus to

wipe the arse of boeing who need to get there act together,

And when will that be? Maybe 5 years of so?

 

 

 

 

boeing is a big joke who takes lotes of money from the usa goverment .as for the jumbo 747 it,s a thing of the past and will never complete with airbus 380 and 350

so you yanks have not got a clue

Really? Lots? And how much cash from the EU does airbust take?

 

Any rational person can see that the 380 will NEVER make money as at the rate that they are delivering them, their backlog is about 50 years or so, which is good, because they have almost no orders.

[Samsonite 181]

.....the dreamliner which has not

even been in the air yet...

1,358 flights, totally 3,730 hours and 25 minutes, as of the close of business on 15 May 2011. The first will be delivered

to ANA between now and September and some are saying by late July. Granted it is 3 years late.

 

http://787flighttest.com/

 

 

....when the 350 comes into flight next year...

The A350whateveritiscalledthisweek, might, might start testing flights next year, but it is extremely unlikely and it

probably won't be delivered to 2014 or 2015.

Edited May 16, 2011 by Samsonite

[bigdelta 46]

Boeing: WTO Affirms Landmark Decision That European Subsidies To Airbus Are Illegal -- Illegal European launch aid and non-launch aid subsidies must end -- Appellate ruling concludes the WTO's review, compliance must occur within 6 months -- Ruling sets governing standards for the global aerospace industry, ensures a fair and level playing field for all companies and workers.

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43078698

 

Published: Wednesday, 18 May 2011 | 11:45 AM ET

 

CHICAGO, May 18, 2011 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The World Trade Organization's Appellate Body today confirmed that Airbus received $18 billion in illegal "launch aid" and other subsidies from European governments.

 

"This is a clear, final win for fair trade that will level the playing field for America's aerospace workers," said Jim McNerney, Boeing chairman, president and chief executive officer. "The WTO has concluded that launch aid and other illegal Airbus subsidies distorted the market, harmed U.S. industry and now must end. The administration--particularly the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative--and the Congress are to be commended for their long-standing efforts in this case to enforce global trade rules. We join them in calling for immediate compliance with this landmark ruling," McNerney said.

 

"The WTO has rendered its final verdict, and now Europe must comply within 6 months," said Boeing Executive Vice President and General Counsel J. Michael Luttig.

 

Altogether, the WTO confirmed that Airbus received $18 billion in illegal subsidies (principle amounts only). That includes $15 billion in launch aid, including $4 billion for the A380, without which Airbus could not have developed its fleet of airplanes. It also includes $3 billion in non-launch aid subsidies, which alone exceeds the $2.7 billion of un-remedied U.S. subsidies to Boeing (mainly NASA R&D spending) that the WTO identified in a separate ruling in March and that currently is under appeal.

 

"Airbus and its government sponsors have tried to justify their illegal subsidy practices by claiming that Boeing benefitted equally from government R&D contracts," Luttig said. "But the WTO in March categorically rejected that argument, dismissing 80% of the EU's claims against the United States and confirming the huge competitive advantage Airbus has as a result of massive illegal government subsidies." Luttig stressed that Europe's obligations resulting from today's decision do not hinge on the ultimate WTO decision in the European case against the United States.

 

"Europe must end all practices held illegal by today's decision--particularly launch aid; government loans for the A350 and future products must be on proven commercial terms," he said.

 

Luttig also answered recent calls by Europe for a negotiated settlement.

 

"I understand why Airbus and its sponsor governments now want to negotiate. For 40 years they have relied on massive injections of launch aid, which today were confirmed to be illegal. We're not interested in a settlement that would allow a continuation of illegal launch aid--the most pernicious, market-distorting subsidy of all," he said. "Airbus currently has more than $17 billion of cash on hand. It can well afford to bring itself into compliance with the WTO ruling and thereafter develop airplanes without illegal aid from European governments." "The WTO rules, combined with the ruling in this case, give clear guidance on what governments can and cannot do to support their respective aerospace industries. These rules will govern all market participants and help ensure that competitions are won or lost based on the merits of the respective product offerings rather than on government subsidies," he said.

Edited May 18, 2011 by LTGTR

[BigDUSA 71]

WTO agrees EU Taxpayer Airbus.

[Samsonite 181]

A summary of the ruling:

 

"Summary of key findings

 

The Appellate Body today upheld the Panel's finding that certain subsidies provided by the European Union and certain Member state governments to Airbus are incompatible with Article 5© of the SCM Agreement because they have caused serious prejudice to the interests of the United States. The principal subsidies covered by the ruling include financing arrangements (known as "Launch Aid" or "Member state financing") provided by France, Germany, Spain, and the UK for the development of the A300, A310, A320, A330/A340, A330-200, A340-500/600, and A380 LCA projects. The ruling also covers certain equity infusions provided by the French and German governments to companies that formed part of the Airbus consortium. Additionally, it covers certain infrastructure measures provided to Airbus, namely, the lease of land at the Mühlenberger Loch industrial site in Hamburg, the right to exclusive use of an extended runway at Bremen airport, regional grants by the German authorities in Nordenham, and Spanish government grants and regional grants by Andalucia and Castilla-La Mancha in Sevilla, La Rinconada, Toledo, Puerto Santa Maria, and Puerto Real. The Appellate Body found that the effect of the subsidies was to displace exports of Boeing single-aisle and twin-aisle LCA from the European Union, Chinese, and Korean markets and Boeing single-aisle LCA from the Australian market. Moreover, the Appellate Body confirmed the Panel's determination that the subsidies caused Boeing to lose sales of LCA in the campaigns involving the A320 (Air Asia, Air Berlin, Czech Airlines, and easyJet), A340 (Iberia, South African Airways, and Thai Airways International), and A380 (Emirates, Qantas, and Singapore Airlines) aircraft.

 

However, for different reasons, the Appellate Body excluded certain measures from the scope of the finding of serious prejudice. In particular, the finding under Article 5© of the SCM Agreement no longer includes the 1998 transfer of a 45.76% interest in Dassault Aviation to Aérospatiale; the special purpose facilities at the Mühlenberger Loch industrial site in Hamburg, Aéroconstellation industrial site and associated facilities (taxiways, parking, etc.) in Toulouse, or the various research and technology development (R&TD) measures that had been challenged by the United States (Spanish PROFIT Programme, grants under Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth EC Framework Programmes; 1986-1993 R&TD grants by French government; Luftfahrtforschungsprogramm I, II, and III German grants; grants by Bavarian, Bremen, and Hamburg authorities; civil aircraft research and development and aeronautics research programmes by the UK government). The Appellate Body also reversed the Panel's findings of displacement in Brazil, Mexico, Singapore, and Chinese Taipei, and of threat of displacement in India.

 

Moreover, the Appellate Body disagreed with the Panel's views on when subsidies can be considered as being de facto contingent upon anticipated export performance. Consequently, the Appellate Body reversed the Panel's findings that the financing provided by Germany, Spain and the UK to develop the A380 was contingent upon anticipated exportation and thus a prohibited export subsidy under Article 3.1(a) and footnote 4 of the SCM Agreement. The Appellate Body also rejected the United States' cross-appeal of the Panel finding that it had not been established that certain other member State financing contracts constituted prohibited export subsidies. As a consequence, the Appellate Body reversed the Panel's recommendation that the European Union withdraw prohibited subsidies within 90 days. The Appellate Body also found that the United States' claims regarding an alleged unwritten launch aid/member State financing programme were outside its jurisdiction. In addition, the Appellate Body reversed the Panel's findings regarding the rate of return that a market lender would have demanded for launch aid/member State financing loans because they were not based on an objective assessment; but found that a benefit was conferred even on the basis of the European Union's calculations. Finally, with respect to the actionable subsidies that have been found to cause adverse effects to the interests of the United States, the Panel's recommendation that the European Union "take appropriate steps to remove the adverse effects or ... withdraw the subsidy" stands.

 

The Panel in this case was established in July 2005. The Panel circulated its Report to WTO Members on 30 June 2010; and the European Union filed a Notice of Appeal on 21 July 2010.

 

A separate dispute brought by the European Union against the United States for subsidies allegedly provided to Boeing is currently before the Appellate Body. The panel report in that dispute was circulated to WTO Members on 31 March 2011. Both the European Union and the United States have appealed aspects of that panel report."

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2011/05/the-wto-and-the-audacity-of-pr.html

[BigDUSA 71]

Investigators detail events in Qantas Airbus A380 engine explosion

 

The failed Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine on the Qantas Airbus A380. (Australian Transport Safety Bureau) | Click picture for photo gallery.

 

Australian investigators Wednesday disclosed the sequence of events that led to the explosion of a Qantas Airbus A380 shortly after takeoff on Nov. 4, 2010 from Singapore.

 

The problem started with a manufacturing defect in an oil-feed pipe, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said in releasing an interim factual report. “That defect resulted in fatigue cracking in the pipe, so that oil sprayed into an engine cavity where it ignited because of the high air temperature.”

 

The fire weakened the engine’s the intermediate pressure turbine disc, causing it to separate from its shaft, increase its rotation speed and break into several parts. Disc sections and other engine components then blew into areas of the aircraft, particularly its left wing.

 

Investigators said they are looking at how the defects in the pipe could have been found before the incident and how the blowout affected the airplane and flight crew workload. They expect to release a final report in May 2012.

 

The aircraft returned safely to Singapore with no injuries among its 459 occupants. It remains there awaiting repair.

QUOTE

[bigdelta 46]

Does it ever end with Rose Royce? (not the Disco singer from the 70s)

 

"We believe the cause is similar to events that other airlines are experiencing and is subject to an increased monitoring program from the manufacturer Rolls Royce."

 

The incident comes as Qantas faces strike action by some of its employees, including pilots, at the same time as it grapples with high fuel prices and a non-performing international business.

 

Qantas pilots said Friday the airline was pressuring them to take on less fuel to help save costs, amid an industry belief that long-held fuel allocation ratios should be lowered given improved accuracy in weather and traffic forecasts.

 

Captain Richard Woodward, vice president of the Australian and International Pilots Association, told ABC radio that Qantas printed out a chart for its pilots showing how much fuel they ordered and how much they landed with.

 

Woodward said there was a "subtle pressure to make sure that you only carry the minimum necessary."

 

"They certainly say to us they would prefer not to carry extra fuel because it's outrageously expensive," he added.

 

On Tuesday a Melbourne-bound flight from Singapore to Melbourne was diverted to Adelaide after crew discovered the Airbus A380 running low on fuel. The plane is thought to have burned more fuel than expected due to bad weather.

 

Qantas rejected the claim, saying captains were responsible for their fuel order and the airline did not attempt to influence that decision in any way.

 

"All Qantas flights operate with appropriate fuel based on extremely detailed flight planning and forecast flying conditions," the spokesman said, adding that pilots were encouraged to closely monitor "discretionary fuel uplift".

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/468715-qantas-boeing-747-stranded-at-suvarnabhumi-after-mid-air-engine-shut-down/page__gopid__4436244#entry4436244

Edited May 20, 2011 by LTGTR

[Hub 203]

i work for airbus and the 380 is THE BEST PLANE ever made and will far surpass the dreamliner which has not

even been in the air yet so get alife and when the 350 comes into flight next year will be the next airbus to

wipe the arse of boeing who need to get there act together, boeing is a big joke who takes lotes of money from the usa goverment .as for the jumbo 747 it,s a thing of the past and will never complete with airbus 380 and 350

so you yanks have not got a clue

 

Your facts and punctuation are equally shoddy.

[joekicker 53]

Qantas flight in mid-air engine shut down

 

Qantas spokesman says:

"We believe the cause is similar to events that other airlines are experiencing and is subject to an increased monitoring program from the manufacturer Rolls Royce."

[bigdelta 46]

Airbus' New BFF: Boeing

 

On the surface, the contest between Boeing (NYSE: BA ) and Airbus appears to be an epic struggle. A clash between titans for control of the $4.7 trillion airliner market. But could Boeing actually be the best thing that ever happened to Airbus?

 

I know the idea's heresy. But a recent report out of Bloomberg suggests that Boeing's attempt to steal share from Airbus with its groundbreaking "composite-skinned" 787 Dreamliner may have hamstrung Boeing, even as it gave Airbus a weapon with which to grow sales.

 

Bloomberg describes how London-based Umeco gained experience working up carbon-fiber components for the 787 Dreamliner. The new technology has been bad news for Alcoa, whose share price has never quite recovered since Boeing's switch to from aluminum to composites was announced back in early 2003. But it's been worse news for Boeing, whose 787 project has been plagued by three years of production delays as the company tried to get a handle on integrating the new material into the 787.

 

But here's the real kicker: Boeing began its 787 project nearly two years before Airbus announced the development of its answer to the Dreamliner, the A350. On one hand, this gave Boeing a big head start that's enabled it to book record sales on its new plane. On the other hand, it gave Airbus time to learn from Boeing's mistakes and to profit from advancements in the technology while avoiding similar mistakes itself.

 

Today, says Umeco, it's figured out how to manufacture composites more cheaply and easily than it used to. Many analysts believe that Boeing's initial foray into composites has made it difficult for the company to turn a profit on planes using the new tech, such as the 747-8 and the Dreamliner. But Airbus also buys composites for its A350 from Umeco. Between lower costs on these components and the ability to learn from Boeing's mistakes, it's that possible Airbus' A350 will fare better.

 

If Airbus ends up enjoying lower development costs, the company will face less pressure to keep prices high to recoup its investment. That situation could help it to win more sales outright, instead of splitting them with Boeing, as happened at United Continental (NYSE: UAL ) last year. (In fact, Airbus did just that with its recent 100-plane order from AIG (NYSE: AIG ) .) Reduced pricing pressure could help it win further contracts in bidding on upcoming contracts from Delta (NYSE: DAL ) and Ryanair (Nasdaq: RYAAY ) .

 

Boeing may yet rue the day it came up with this particular bright idea.

 

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2011/05/21/airbus-new-bff-boeing.aspx

[joekicker 53]

I know the idea's heresy. But a recent report out of Bloomberg suggests that Boeing's attempt to steal share from Airbus with its groundbreaking "composite-skinned" 787 Dreamliner may have hamstrung Boeing, even as it gave Airbus a weapon with which to grow sales.

 

Very well written LTGTR. I presume you're a professional writer. If you're not, you should be. This was a very well rganised and written report.

 

.

[wacmedia 277]

 

 

 

I know the idea's heresy. But a recent report out of Bloomberg suggests that Boeing's attempt to steal share from Airbus with its groundbreaking "composite-skinned" 787 Dreamliner may have hamstrung Boeing, even as it gave Airbus a weapon with which to grow sales.

 

 

Hi,

 

Interesting idea. Not sure Airbus management are that smart though.

[bigdelta 46]

Korean Air Celebrates Delivery of First GP7200-powered A380 Aircraft-apparently this is the NON-EXPLODING engine

 

TOULOUSE, France, May 24, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Today Korean Air celebrated the delivery of its first GP7200-powered Airbus A380 aircraft at a ceremony in Toulouse, France. Korean Air has ordered a total of 10 A380s and will begin operating the aircraft in June.

 

Korean Air will be the first Airbus A380 customer to dedicate the entire upper deck of the aircraft to Prestige (business) Class passengers with 94 lie-flat Prestige Class seats. It is also the first airline in the industry to have a 'Duty Free Showcase' on the A380 aircraft. The unique feature will have a variety of duty-free products displayed with a dedicated cabin crew member on hand to assist and advise passengers with their shopping.

 

"We are delighted that Korean Air will become the first Asian carrier to operate the GP7200 engine," said Engine Alliance President Mary Ellen Jones. "By doing so, they offer customers the quietest and most environmentally friendly way to travel on the A380."

 

The GP7200 engine is the leading engine for the Airbus A380 aircraft. It has been selected to power 56% of all A380s on order with engine selections. There are 20 GP7200-powered A380s in service and 104 more on order.

 

In addition to Korean Air, Emirates and Air France operate GP7200-powered A380 aircraft. Etihad and Air Austral have also selected GP7200 engines for their A380 fleets.

 

The Engine Alliance is a 50/50 joint venture of General Electric (NYSE:GE - News) and Pratt & Whitney, a unit of United Technologies Corp. (NYSE:UTX - News). The GP7200 is the result of innovations to the combined technologies of its member companies' most successful wide-body engines: the GE90 and the PW4000. The GP7200 utilizes the lessons learned from more than 35 million flight hours of successful operation with these legacy engines and incorporates new technology to produce the quietest, most fuel efficient engine for the A380. The GP7200 is certified at 76,500 pounds (340 kN) of thrust and has the capability to produce more than 81,500 pounds (363 kN). Its emissions are well below current and anticipated regulations.

 

GP7200 Engine Program participants include SNECMA (France), Techspace Aero (Belgium) and MTU Aero Engines (Germany). For more information about the Engine Alliance, visit www.enginealliance.com.

[bigdelta 46]

LOL! I guess the author of that article was being generous.

 

Hi,

 

Interesting idea. Not sure Airbus management are that smart though.

[bigdelta 46]

Thank you.Your attempt at sarcasm is lame.

 

 

Very well written LTGTR. I presume you're a professional writer. If you're not, you should be. This was a very well rganised and written report.

 

.

Edited May 24, 2011 by LTGTR

[BigDUSA 71]

 

TOULOUSE, France, May 24, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --

 

It is also the first airline in the industry to have a 'Duty Free Showcase' on the A380 aircraft. The unique feature will have a variety of duty-free products displayed with a dedicated cabin crew member on hand to assist and advise passengers with their shopping.

 

I remember when the first 747 entered service and a couple of airlines had a baby grand piano installed in business class. This didn't last long before they replaced the piano with seats. I wonder how long the "Duty Free Showcase" will last?

[jacko 8,813]

I remember when the first 747 entered service and a couple of airlines had a baby grand piano installed in business class. This didn't last long before they replaced the piano with seats. I wonder how long the "Duty Free Showcase" will last?

I think it is a pretty lame idea too, although I am not much the shopping type. Bloody airport is more like a Mall these days and you struggle to get to the gate going around display cabinets of overpriced crap.

[bigdelta 46]

I do remember a time when duty free actually had great prices,but that was quite some time ago.Late 80s-early 90s,Dubai Duty Free had the best Rolex prices around.And they also gave away an expensive car fairly often-you got a free entry with any duty free purchase IIRC.

 

 

I think it is a pretty lame idea too, although I am not much the shopping type. Bloody airport is more like a Mall these days and you struggle to get to the gate going around display cabinets of overpriced crap.

[jacko 8,813]

I do remember a time when duty free actually had great prices,but that was quite some time ago.Late 80s-early 90s,Dubai Duty Free had the best Rolex prices around.And they also gave away an expensive car fairly often-you got a free entry with any duty free purchase IIRC.

Yes, as soon as I started to read your post Dubai came to my mind, and their unbelievable prices on single malt scotch!

Not now though. I am stunned by the price of a sandwich and beer at swampy these days.

Edited May 26, 2011 by jacko

[bigdelta 46]

I made a no-notice 5 hr trip to Miami last month and missed lunch.Cleared immigration in Cabo and in the gate area,there's 1 restaurant and a Sbarro.1 slice on cheese pizza,lukecold,was 105 pesos,roughly $9.And the line was 20 deep.Some slices were 130 pesos.Airport prices are a license to steal.The price was more shocking because it's generally cheap to eat here,not Thai cheap,but still cheap.

 

 

Yes, as soon as I started to read your post Dubai came to my mind, and their unbelievable prices on single malt scotch!

Not now though. I am stunned by the price of a sandwich and beer at swampy these days.

[bigdelta 46]

Boeing and ANA to Conduct 787 Service Readiness Validation in Japan-The first time the 787 will fly to Asia and Japan

 

Press Release Source: Boeing On Thursday May 26, 2011, 3:00 am EDT

 

TOKYO, May 26, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] and ANA today announced how the two companies will work together to help prove the 787 Dreamliner's readiness to enter service on a commercial basis. Using the second flight test aircraft, known as ZA002, they will simulate in-service operations across several airports in Japan in a service ready operational validation. The validation is expected to take place the week of July 4. Anticipated city pairs include trips between Haneda Airport in Tokyo and airports in Osaka (Itami and Kansai), Okayama and Hiroshima.

 

This will be the 787's maiden appearance in Japan. ANA is the launch customer for the aircraft and has 55 Dreamliners on order. The 787, which will be deployed across the ANA route network, is an integral part of ANA's strategy to strengthen its position and support its growth and expansion plans.

 

"ANA is eager to introduce the innovative 787 Dreamliner to Japan," said Shinichiro Ito, ANA president and chief executive officer. "Giving our employees the opportunity to gain experience with the airplane will help ensure a smoother entry into service later this year."

 

"We've put the airplane through its paces in a rigorous flight test program," said Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of the 787 program. "Now, as we get closer to first delivery, we'll prove out its capabilities and reliability in a revenue-like environment."

 

ANA's maintenance crews also will practice maintenance and servicing of the 787 during the validation. This will include typical ground servicing activities, fit checks of airplane jacks and maintenance hangar stands, towing and refueling the airplane, and other routine maintenance operations. Watch this video to see how Boeing and ANA are planning for the validation.

 

Similar service ready validations have been conducted with great success on previous Boeing programs, including the 777, 737NG and 757-300.

 

Boeing plans to deliver the first 787 to ANA in the August to September timeframe.

[wacmedia 277]

Hi,

 

Airbus are set to challenge the 777.

 

Long-haul dogfight: Airbus's new A350 looks to take on Boeing 777

June 8, 2011

 

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/travel/travel-news/longhaul-dogfight-airbuss-new-a350-looks-to-take-on-boeing-777-20110608-1frwi.html#ixzz1Om9sdsow

 

Airbus may boost the performance of its planned A350 jet with enhancements including more thrust, seeking to outflank any revamped version of the Boeing 777.Customers have been urging Airbus to upgrade the A350's range and capacity after it developed the model in response to Boeing's smaller 787. Qatar Airways, the A350's No. 1 customer, and International Lease Finance, the biggest aircraft lessor, both said they favor a performance boost.

[TheFiend 1,181]

News article taken from flightglobal

 

A350-1000 gains performance through thrust and design rethink

By Max Kingsley-Jones

 

Airbus is to confirm plans at the Paris air show for a significant redesign of the A350-1000 in an effort to increase the largest XWB variant's competitiveness with the rival Boeing 777-300ER.

 

Flightglobal understands that the update centres on engine, wing and weight changes to boost payload-range.

 

The 350-seat A350-1000 is the last of the three main XWB variants in the initial development plan, with service entry officially slated for the end of 2015.

 

It has been undergoing a major design review as Airbus engineers work to finalise the aircraft's configuration and performance as part of the definition effort. This phase of development is due to conclude with the "detailed definition freeze" at the end of 2011.

 

Key A350 customers are being briefed by Airbus on the revamped design ahead of the Paris air show, when the airframer is due to provide a public update.

 

Sources familiar with the situation indicate that the aircraft has undergone some significant changes, central to which is the acceptance by sole engine supplier Rolls-Royce to redesign the version of the Trent XWB that will power the A350-1000.

 

Originally slated to be a slightly modified version of the A350-800/900's 75,000-84,000lb thrust (374kN) Trent XWB variant rated at 93,000lb thrust, Flightglobal understands that the engine will now incorporate a revised core to deliver a significant boost in thrust towards 98,000lb.

 

The option of enlarging the fan is understood to be problematic due to wing-to-ground clearance issues.

 

"Rolls has accepted that it must increase the engine thrust," said Akbar Al Baker, chief executive of A350-1000 launch customer Qatar Airways.

 

The original plan for the A350 wing was for it to be common wing across all three variants, with changes on the -1000 limited to trailing edge extension of around 400mm (16in). Airbus is is now understood to have decided to enlarge the wing further as part of the wider redesign.

 

In parallel, Airbus has raised the -1000's maximum take-off weight above the current 298t, which is understood to have delivered a 500nm (925km) boost in payload-range to an estimated 8,500nm. The revisions are believed to have pushed planned service entry into 2016. "We'd like increased take-off weight and increased range," said Al Baker.

 

Sized to compete with the 777-300ER, there have been pressure from some quarters - notably Emirates chief Tim Clark - for Airbus to boost the -1000's payload-range to make it a better proposition.

 

While these changes look to address that, former International Lease Finance chief Steve Udvar-Hazy, who previously pushed Airbus to redesign the original A350 five years ago, does not yet view the A350-1000 as a genuine 777-300ER rival. "There is some overlap, but I see it more as a replacement for the operators of the Airbus A340," he said.

 

Airbus currently holds orders for 75 A350-1000s from four customers - Qatar Airways and Emirates each with 20, Etihad Airways with 25 and Asiana with 10. Neither Airbus nor Rolls-Royce are commenting ahead of the air show

 

Lets hope Airbus don't suffer the problems with the A350 that have affected the 7LATE7!!!

[MrMango 667]

News article taken from flightglobal

 

 

 

Lets hope Airbus don't suffer the problems with the A350 that have affected the 7LATE7!!!

Or with the disastrous Trent engines.

[TheFiend 1,181]

Or with the disastrous Trent engines.

 

The Trent engine isn't a disaster...... it is not the only engine to have suffered failures...