View Talay 5 vs View Talay 2

[Gabor 296]

VT 6 you will pay 4million + some are asking 5 million and are getting 28k rent million for a decent room 48 metres, VT 2 has a very small angled balcony you cant use... they are good value but you get what you pay for... I agree re 8 too far out and 7 is a poor design, 6 and 5 are the best IMHO the market prices also reflect that...

 

A market is a market and you get what you pay for, you are looking at a 12% yield very tidy....makes me laugh when people say don't buy in Thailand . don't pay 12% rent is what I think ...

 

Yeah, VT6 is really overpriced, but true great location.... however the lower ( if I remember up to the 5th floor ) floors looking on the parking place of the Central Festival are a waste of the space, I don't know who would buy any of these units... It would be interesting to know the annual fees because of the lack of the full occupancy....

 

Yes, true, in the VT2 are not huge balconies, but enough big to sit for two with a table.... I like to see the sunset and having a tea with some mates... IMO the extra 2.5 mill not worth the extra 6 sqm and the location... ( Location: excellent for a tourist, but personally I wouldn't live for long term in the noisy and polluted environment , not even on the higher floors facing to the parking place to smell the smoke of the cars )

 

VT7 has an other problem... only 3 elevators for the 3 wings.... we have 3 elevators for 1 wing and sometimes not enough.... Not to mention the one small pool for the 3 wings in the VT7...

 

VT5 indeed great, but still facing with the problem of the low occupancy... you can see the lack of the money from the annual fees ( interesting... how much ? ) in the services... BTW, the pool is also small...

 

I wonder, where is the VT6 ??? Is it the smaller single building near the waterpark ??? If it is.... the usual problem with the transport.....

 

Market is a market..... or not... I see units waiting for a buyer for years and don't dropping the prices, and all of the newer VT buildings suffer from the low occupancy...

 

I am in the don't buy in los camp, but let's not start that again

 

I say the same... I had an other condo for rent, but I sold it... I was cheated by the office who managed it, the condo went south, only problems, low income.... Because I wasn't in the city.... no way you can manage your condo from abroad.... It's a new try, being in Pattaya for 8-9-10 months a year... I can tell you the result maybe a year from now...

 

Buy or rent.... for yourself.... how many times you spend in Pattaya ? How much you can spend on accomodation ? True, not a good investment as my very first rule: Never ever rent out your own condo, you bought it for your comfortable life, designed it for your style, leave there your belongings... I considered to buy, when I started to spend 3+ months in a year....

Edited June 28, 2012 by Gabor

[Parkwahn 61]

Yeah, VT6 is really overpriced, but true great location.... however the lower ( if I remember up to the 5th floor ) floors looking on the parking place of the Central Festival are a waste of the space, I don't know who would buy any of these units... It would be interesting to know the annual fees because of the lack of the full occupancy....

 

Yes, true, in the VT2 are not huge balconies, but enough big to sit for two with a table.... I like to see the sunset and having a tea with some mates... IMO the extra 2.5 mill not worth the extra 6 sqm and the location... ( Location: excellent for a tourist, but personally I wouldn't live for long term in the noisy and polluted environment , not even on the higher floors facing to the parking place to smell the smoke of the cars )

 

VT7 has an other problem... only 3 elevators for the 3 wings.... we have 3 elevators for 1 wing and sometimes not enough.... Not to mention the one small pool for the 3 wings in the VT7...

 

VT5 indeed great, but still facing with the problem of the low occupancy... you can see the lack of the money from the annual fees ( interesting... how much ? ) in the services... BTW, the pool is also small...

 

I wonder, where is the VT6 ??? Is it the smaller single building near the waterpark ??? If it is.... the usual problem with the transport.....

 

Market is a market..... or not... I see units waiting for a buyer for years and don't dropping the prices, and all of the newer VT buildings suffer from the low occupancy...

 

 

 

I say the same... I had an other condo for rent, but I sold it... I was cheated by the office who managed it, the condo went south, only problems, low income.... Because I wasn't in the city.... no way you can manage your condo from abroad.... It's a new try, being in Pattaya for 8-9-10 months a year... I can tell you the result maybe a year from now...

 

Buy or rent.... for yourself.... how many times you spend in Pattaya ? How much you can spend on accomodation ? True, not a good investment as my very first rule: Never ever rent out your own condo, you bought it for your comfortable life, designed it for your style, leave there your belongings... I considered to buy, when I started to spend 3+ months in a year....

 

The fees in VT5 and VT6 are 6000 per year for a 48 metre unit, not sure how you feel VT6 is overpriced its not its a prime spot you cant get decent rooms to rent for less than 24k in peak 30k, you cant buy decent rooms for less than 4 million, like you I would not want to live there but for the people who have a decent views they are getting a great return the people who bought low and have had the Hilton and mall build next door , well thats life.

 

VT7 has a wing which seems to be in the dark I also heard there were ownership issues there ? whether true I dont know.

 

VT2 has dark and narrow passage ways as does one, Vt5 and VT 6 does not, people love top think they have a bargain but a market price is just that, VT2 no direct access to beach VT5 has direct access to beach.

 

The price of condos in the main is governed by location VT1 and 2 are cheap for a reason, so all value others call cheap its how you view it...

 

VT6 will year on year give the best rental return by a long way with no voids.... VT 2 pool area is pretty shabby like a lot of the buidling, thats why they are cheap same as one..

 

VT6 amd VT5 are streets ahead of VT2 the market shows that..... as long as you are happy with what you have bought then fine but its not the best VT by a long chalk.

 

I have been on Pattaya more than 2 years in the last 2.5 years, to date I have had a great return on my capital investment 17.5% over 2 years, tax free in one more year 24% rents for decent places are very high.

Edited June 28, 2012 by Parkwahn

[Idefix 2,275]

The new View Talay projects //... and still more, than half empty. Already years....I

t increase the question who will pay the annual maintenance fees ?

It would be interesting to know the annual fees because of the lack of the full occupancy....

 

As far as I know the developer of the project has to pay for the maintenance charges of each appartments until they are sold. So occupancy (or rather selling ratio) should not change anything to the money available to manage the whole condo.

 

however the lower floors looking on the parking place of the Central Festival are a waste of the space,

I don't know who would buy any of these units...

 

People who buy early without consulting the City Hall before. The Central Beach Festival was not build yet, and surely a lot of "investors" have had a bad surprise. In fact all those who bought North side up to floor 16 (about?) had a bad surprise : no more view + noise from the big mall...

 

Yes, true, in the VT2 are not huge balconies, but enough big to sit for two with a table....

 

VT6 may have big balconies, South side seeing the sea, but you cannot use them during the day because they receive full sun and it's like a oven ! Many appartments put a vertical curtain during the day, blocking the sun... and the view.

Edited June 28, 2012 by Idefix

[Parkwahn 61]

As far as I know the developer of the project has to pay for the maintenance charges of each appartments until they are sold. So occupancy (or rather selling ratio) should not change anything to the money available to manage the whole condo.

 

 

 

People who buy early without consulting the City Hall before. The Central Beach Festival was not build yet, and surely a lot of "investors" have had a bad surprise. In fact all those who bought North side up to floor 16 (about?) had a bad surprise : no more view + noise from the big mall...

 

I looked at one on the North side it looked out onto a wall and a few feet above were fans making a row, was up for 2.6 funny enough as a short term rental it would probably do ok but I would not buy it.

 

The ones on the other side have great views........... to date .......

[Gabor 296]

Too dear for me, unless you are into Jomtien of course. I stay in Patts for B6000 per week, B7 electric, no water charge!

 

 

http://www.soidb.com...olden-crab.html

 

The fees in VT5 and VT6 are 6000 per year for a 48 metre unit, not sure how you feel VT6 is overpriced its not its a prime spot you cant get decent rooms to rent for less than 24k in peak 30k, you cant buy decent rooms for less than 4 million, like you I would not want to live there but for the people who have a decent views they are getting a great return the people who bought low and have had the Hilton and mall build next door , well thats life.

 

 

 

VT2 has dark and narrow passage ways as does one, Vt5 and VT 6 does not, people love top think they have a bargain but a market price is just that, VT2 no direct access to beach VT5 has direct access to beach.

 

The price of condos in the main is governed by location VT1 and 2 are cheap for a reason, so all value others call cheap its how you view it...

 

VT6 will year on year give the best rental return by a long way with no voids.... VT 2 pool area is pretty shabby like a lot of the buidling, thats why they are cheap same as one..

 

VT6 amd VT5 are streets ahead of VT2 the market shows that..... as long as you are happy with what you have bought then fine but its not the best VT by a long chalk.

 

I have been on Pattaya more than 2 years in the last 2.5 years, to date I have had a great return on my capital investment 17.5% over 2 years, tax free in one more year 24% rents for decent places are very high.

 

I don't know.... a mate living in VT5 told me someting over 10.000 / year....

 

I think overpriced..... VT6 / 48sqm / 4mill vs VT2 /42 sqm / 1.5 mill.... If the renting out..... 25-30.000 / month / 4 mill vs 15.000 / month / 1.5 mill....

 

Dark passages ??? There was a special lightening to not disturb the residents, but lately they installed some extra lightings too....

 

Agree, VT5 has a better location if to see the distance from the beach.... However you must to walk a lot every time you arrive home not from the beach to the beachfront building... IMO a few hundred thousand extra baht would be ok, but not a million....VT6 is great location for his own audience...

 

Shabby pool in the VT2 ??

 

VT6 pool:

 

 

VT5 pool:

 

 

VT2 pool:

 

[Parkwahn 61]

Thanks Parky, that's kind of you to say

 

 

 

You and BMs like Gary and Gabor are sitting pretty with a few years ownership behind you. It's going forward that I am always wary about , with Pattaya changing so much. However I still may buy there. I would view it as a luxury and gamble , rather than a sound investment and I think you guys probably thought that way too when you bought and it's worked out for you. Would be great to be able to have a decent sound system, TV, big monitor , guitar and leave hot weather clothes there and travel light. And like you, I utterly abhor renting stuff.

 

 

Everything in life is a gamble, Los could change and worst case you always need to consider but avoiding the high rental payments on decent places gives a return from day one, as for sound investments well some investments are great others not so as long as you happy with your overall plan not an issue...............

 

A mate of mine is paying 28k a month on VT6... do that for 2 years !!! I know another lad who has paid over £48000 in rent in 9 years in Los, pay your money and talke your chances....

[Parkwahn 61]

 

http://www.soidb.com...olden-crab.html

 

 

 

I don't know.... a mate living in VT5 told me someting over 10.000 / year....

 

I think overpriced..... VT6 / 48sqm / 4mill vs VT2 /42 sqm / 1.5 mill.... If the renting out..... 25-30.000 / month / 4 mill vs 15.000 / month / 1.5 mill....

 

Dark passages ??? There was a special lightening to not disturb the residents, but lately they installed some extra lightings too....

 

Agree, VT5 has a better location if to see the distance from the beach.... However you must to walk a lot every time you arrive home not from the beach to the beachfront building... IMO a few hundred thousand extra baht would be ok, but not a million....VT6 is great location for his own audience...

 

Shabby pool in the VT2 ??

 

VT6 pool:

 

 

VT5 pool:

 

 

VT2 pool:

 

 

No idea what your mate is a paying I know for a fact VT5 and VT6 are 6000 for a 48 and double for a double unit..

 

VT 6 has no voids and has a high demand, have you rented yours yet ?

 

How many pools does VT2 have ? is the combined sizes of both VT5 pools bigger

 

VT 2 has broken tiles in the pool and has smaller corridors, that means less light :) you can put more lights in but you cant make the alley ways wider

 

You see VT2 is older than 5 or 6 , thats why they made bigger balconies and bigger passage ways they learnt as the went.....

 

Does VT 2 have a generator when there are power cuts ? I was there a month ago I know agirl who lives there, during the powercut I had to walk down the stairs .. VT6 and VT% have these generators..........

 

There is nothing wrong with VT2 it is an old condo block, thats shown in the cheaper price the market supports.. The girl I know is paying 12000 a month for a years let...

 

It did make me laugh you putting a big photo up of the one you say is big and smaller on VT6 and VT5 which has 2 pools...

 

The way to find is to measure the size, not put up bigger and smaller photos.. after all we don't want VTTalay2ologists.......... now do we :)

 

The market id the market, one ologist cant alter that

[Gabor 296]

I must to admit you are right... I called him especially to know the right sum, yes it is 6.000 baht.

 

No doubt, VT6 has very high demand... mine is rented out from 2nd of july for a month...

 

VT2 has two huge pools, one for each building.... VT5 has two small pool...

 

I don't met any broken tiles, however true, there was a warning for a while.... as the corridors..... true, at the daytime the lightening is partially turned off.... however the VT5 corridors doesn't looked lighter, but you may be right I don't wanted to compare.

 

You are right, VT5 absolutely newer... I can't prefer about the balcony sizes, as my mate living there, have a condo with a huge, stairway balcony, not the usual one.

 

Yes, as I replied you in an other thread, we have a power generator. I myself used the elevators when the power was off... The generator is situated behind the building in a small house.

 

Yes, the market looking for the snobbish customers, I myself wanted to change from VT2 to VT5 until I looked in the deep picture... However in the VT5 still 50% + units are empty... unsold. On my last visit, even some 1st floor business units were empty.

 

Fully possible your TG friend pays 12.000, there are available condos for this price for long term. Building B and lower floors are cheaper.

 

OK, here two different pix from a website offers condos for sale in both VT2 and VT5... ( BTW, on my pix you can compare the size of the pool with the cars vs swimming people )

 

 

Yes, the market is the market.... not the wild dreams of the sellers... VT2 is full, VT5 is half empty....

 

As the.... ologists... nice to see the negative on my reply: Yes we have.

Edited June 28, 2012 by Gabor

[nkped 1,208]

No personal experience with VT6 but it would seem to have one principal advantage and one principal disadvantage, both of which would be location. I will be staying in VT2 for three months at the beginning of next year and will share my thoughts then and will let you know whether being on the baht bus route fills the bill.

[Obsession 571]

However, easy to find really nice, even large condos for 1.6mill...

 

 

48m?

 

How much is VT5? I saw 2-3 mil mentioned?

[Parkwahn 61]

I must to admit you are right... I called him especially to know the right sum, yes it is 6.000 baht.

 

No doubt, VT6 has very high demand... mine is rented out from 2nd of july for a month...

 

VT2 has two huge pools, one for each building.... VT5 has two small pool...

 

I don't met any broken tiles, however true, there was a warning for a while.... as the corridors..... true, at the daytime the lightening is partially turned off.... however the VT5 corridors doesn't looked lighter, but you may be right I don't wanted to compare.

 

You are right, VT5 absolutely newer... I can't prefer about the balcony sizes, as my mate living there, have a condo with a huge, stairway balcony, not the usual one.

 

Yes, as I replied you in an other thread, we have a power generator. I myself used the elevators when the power was off... The generator is situated behind the building in a small house.

 

Yes, the market looking for the snobbish customers, I myself wanted to change from VT2 to VT5 until I looked in the deep picture... However in the VT5 still 50% + units are empty... unsold. On my last visit, even some 1st floor business units were empty.

 

Fully possible your TG friend pays 12.000, there are available condos for this price for long term. Building B and lower floors are cheaper.

 

OK, here two different pix from a website offers condos for sale in both VT2 and VT5... ( BTW, on my pix you can compare the size of the pool with the cars vs swimming people )

 

 

Yes, the market is the market.... not the wild dreams of the sellers... VT2 is full, VT5 is half empty....

 

As the.... ologists... nice to see the negative on my reply: Yes we have.

 

The VT2ologist strikes again, can I ask you how you have made VT2 taller than VT5 when it has less floors Are the ceilings higher in VT 2 ?

 

The market dictates what a thing will sell for, if VT 5 and 6 renters thought buying VT was better would they not ?

 

Not even ologists can alter a market as you well know, VT2 is cheaper than 5 and 6 as its not as big not as good, thats how it works

[Gabor 296]

The VT2ologist strikes again, can I ask you how you have made VT2 taller than VT5 when it has less floors Are the ceilings higher in VT 2 ?

 

The market dictates what a thing will sell for, if VT 5 and 6 renters thought buying VT was better would they not ?

 

Not even ologists can alter a market as you well know, VT2 is cheaper than 5 and 6 as its not as big not as good, thats how it works

 

Maybe the smaller picture was enough to fit the small pool of the VT5... BTW are you dyslectic ??? I wrote, not my pix... stolen from here:

 

www.viewtalay.eu

 

Are you interested with the VT5 ? Ok... again.... VT5 is half empty, the majority of the units are UNSOLD.... No one - maybe one - sold corner condo I can see from my balcony... They are empty... dead....

[Parkwahn 61]

Maybe the smaller picture was enough to fit the small pool of the VT5... BTW are you dyslectic ??? I wrote, not my pix... stolen from here:

 

www.viewtalay.eu

 

Are you interested with the VT5 ? Ok... again.... VT5 is half empty, the majority of the units are UNSOLD.... No one - maybe one - sold corner condo I can see from my balcony... They are empty... dead....

 

yesterday the maint in VT5 was not 6000 lol..

 

What sizes are the pools ? but you making the floors smaller in VT5 was funny.. still ologists are ologists..

 

how do you plan on making up the 12.5% in space ? you need to add on 125% on the price also that takes to 1.7 million lol... but what I would like to see is how you make the corridors wider and the balconies 4 times the size ?

 

Sling in beach front access... and you have a few differences , those are a few differences which clearly drives the prices,, I would not lo=ive in VT2 but 5 and 6 I like up to me,,

 

The market is the market... no matter what ologists say

[Gabor 296]

What sizes are the pools ? but you making the floors smaller in VT5 was funny.. still ologists are ologists..

 

how do you plan on making up the 12.5% in space ? you need to add on 125% on the price also that takes to 1.7 million lol... but what I would like to see is how you make the corridors wider and the balconies 4 times the size ?

 

Sling in beach front access... and you have a few differences , those are a few differences which clearly drives the prices,, I would not lo=ive in VT2 but 5 and 6 I like up to me,,

 

The market is the market... no matter what ologists say

 

The pool size in VT2 something 70 metres, in VT5 maybe 20.. ( I don't responsible about the correct numbers, just a biased estimate.... I'm not in Pattaya, but I promise to you I will check it for you in september )

 

oligists.... am I right, are you a dickologist ? ( I may remember wrong )

 

12.5 % , 125 %, 1.7 million ? I may be dumb, but I can't figure what about you are talking...

 

As I mentioned I never saw a normal balcony, so I can't comment.... as the 4 times wider ( ? ) or higher ( ? ) corridors... hmm... it must be a maybe 10 X 10 metres corridor ?... huhh.... for the readers... the corridor in the VT2....try to imagine the 4 time bigger corridors....

 

 

You are right, VT5 is a beachfront condominium....huh.... WTF... why do I write the same for the 3rd times ??? For the dyslectic poster:

 

Ok... I will write slowly, maybe the message will be not lost on the way between your retina and your brain....Yes, the market priced the VT5 sellers wild dreams.. for years it is UNSOLD and EMPTY.... NO ONE corner condo is sold I can see from my balcony...

[Parkwahn 61]

The pool size in VT2 something 70 metres, in VT5 maybe 20.. ( I don't responsible about the correct numbers, just a biased estimate.... I'm not in Pattaya, but I promise to you I will check it for you in september )

 

oligists.... am I right, are you a dickologist ? ( I may remember wrong )

 

12.5 % , 125 %, 1.7 million ? I may be dumb, but I can't figure what about you are talking...

 

As I mentioned I never saw a normal balcony, so I can't comment.... as the 4 times wider ( ? ) or higher ( ? ) corridors... hmm... it must be a maybe 10 X 10 metres corridor ?... huhh.... for the readers... the corridor in the VT2....try to imagine the 4 time bigger corridors....

 

 

You are right, VT5 is a beachfront condominium....huh.... WTF... why do I write the same for the 3rd times ??? For the dyslectic poster:

 

Ok... I will write slowly, maybe the message will be not lost on the way between your retina and your brain....Yes, the market priced the VT5 sellers wild dreams.. for years it is UNSOLD and EMPTY.... NO ONE corner condo is sold I can see from my balcony...

 

What ologists like you cant deal with is fact, VT2 the aging condo block with narrow alley ways is 12.5% smaller than VT6 and VT5 so when you quote your 1.5 million you need to add 12.5% for a like for like, even you know 0.8 kilo of bananas cost less than a kilo of the same bananas...

 

So when you say its cheaper..its also smaller With a balcony so small its no use and corridors like rat runs plus a pool with tiles missing

 

Now they are facts, no matter how you spin it as for cockologist well clearly you suck them . you seem to suck up anything like here.....

 

Unsold.. hmmmm ALL THE FOREIGN QUOTAS ARE SOLD IN VT6 and BOTH VT5....... call the number on the sign as for foreign ownership.. all gone .. market forces at work

Edited June 30, 2012 by Parkwahn

[Idefix 2,275]

Yes, the market priced the VT5 sellers wild dreams.. for years it is UNSOLD and EMPTY....

 

Please Gabor & Parkwahn, stop this war !

 

Gabor may be wrong on the UNSOLD part (or 51% wrong?) but it seems to me he is right on the (mainly) EMPTY part.

I can believe Parkwahn when he says that the foreign quota is sold in in VT5,

but how much of this quota is from investors who just expected a quick re-sell who does not come? The bigger part for sure.

 

Big balcony is not necessary a good thing when you can not use it during the day because it's too hot... And don't forget the balcony surface is included in the chanote surface at a 100% ratio, meaning it's an expensive "lost" surface for your inside-appartment.

[Gary 4,119]

This is my "hallway"

 

[Gary 4,119]

My bedroom balcony;

 

[Parkwahn 61]

Please Gabor & Parkwahn, stop this war !

 

Gabor may be wrong on the UNSOLD part (or 51% wrong?) but it seems to me he is right on the (mainly) EMPTY part.

I can believe Parkwahn when he says that the foreign quota is sold in in VT5,

but how much of this quota is from investors who just expected a quick re-sell who does not come? The bigger part for sure.

 

Big balcony is not necessary a good thing when you can not use it during the day because it's too hot... And don't forget the balcony surface is included in the chanote surface at a 100% ratio, meaning it's an expensive "lost" surface for your inside-appartment.

 

A big balcony on a hot side a liability, on a cool side a bonus.....The Quota is sold in VT5 and VT6 , my point being a smaller condo cost less and the biggest waste of space is as you suggest a balconey you cant use, through either being to hot or to small.

 

VT2 is what it is, no matter what the ologists say

[Gabor 296]

Please Gabor & Parkwahn, stop this war !

 

Gabor may be wrong on the UNSOLD part (or 51% wrong?) but it seems to me he is right on the (mainly) EMPTY part.

I can believe Parkwahn when he says that the foreign quota is sold in in VT5,

but how much of this quota is from investors who just expected a quick re-sell who does not come? The bigger part for sure.

 

Big balcony is not necessary a good thing when you can not use it during the day because it's too hot... And don't forget the balcony surface is included in the chanote surface at a 100% ratio, meaning it's an expensive "lost" surface for your inside-appartment.

 

You may be right., however in the VT2 you can't see balconies without air con ( the sign of the uninhabited status ) whilst the VT5 is full of them....

 

However some interesting facts:

 

View Talay 5 condominiums in Jomtien

86 Units for sale 59 Units to rent

 

 

http://pattayacondoguide.com/condominiums/View-Talay-5-condominiums-in-Jomtien,47.html

 

View Talay 2 condominiums in Jomtien

38 Units for sale 55 Units to rent

 

 

http://pattayacondoguide.com/condominiums/View-Talay-2-condominiums-in-Jomtien,46.html

 

What ologists like you cant deal with is fact, VT2 the aging condo block with narrow alley ways is 12.5% smaller than VT6 and VT5 so when you quote your 1.5 million you need to add 12.5% for a like for like, even you know 0.8 kilo of bananas cost less than a kilo of the same bananas...

 

So when you say its cheaper..its also smaller With a balcony so small its no use and corridors like rat runs plus a pool with tiles missing

 

Now they are facts, no matter how you spin it as for cockologist well clearly you suck them . you seem to suck up anything like here.....

 

Unsold.. hmmmm ALL THE FOREIGN QUOTAS ARE SOLD IN VT6 and BOTH VT5....... call the number on the sign as for foreign ownership.. all gone .. market forces at work

 

You are right, the age difference between the two building is 3-5 years... depending from the buildings...

 

The average selling prices: VT5 50.000bt / square metres vs. VT2 35-40.000 / square metres... so nothing to do with the bananas.....

 

As the corridors.... here is 2 pix about the VT5 corridors, the reader may decide about the differences....is it really bigger 4 times, than the TV2 ?

 

 

http://www.agoda.com/asia/thailand/pattaya/view_talay_condominium_5d.html

 

The cherry on the cake is the total lack of any security....

 

[Parkwahn 61]

You may be right., however in the VT2 you can't see balconies without air con ( the sign of the uninhabited status ) whilst the VT5 is full of them....

 

However some interesting facts:

 

View Talay 5 condominiums in Jomtien

86 Units for sale 59 Units to rent

 

 

http://pattayacondog...Jomtien,47.html

 

View Talay 2 condominiums in Jomtien

38 Units for sale 55 Units to rent

 

 

http://pattayacondog...Jomtien,46.html

 

 

 

You are right, the age difference between the two building is 3-5 years... depending from the buildings...

 

The average selling prices: VT5 50.000bt / square metres vs. VT2 35-40.000 / square metres... so nothing to do with the bananas.....

 

As the corridors.... here is 2 pix about the VT5 corridors, the reader may decide about the differences....is it really bigger 4 times, than the TV2 ?

 

 

http://www.agoda.com...ominium_5d.html

 

The cherry on the cake is the total lack of any security....

 

You may be right., however in the VT2 you can't see balconies without air con ( the sign of the uninhabited status ) whilst the VT5 is full of them....

 

However some interesting facts:

 

View Talay 5 condominiums in Jomtien

86 Units for sale 59 Units to rent

 

 

http://pattayacondog...Jomtien,47.html

 

View Talay 2 condominiums in Jomtien

38 Units for sale 55 Units to rent

 

 

http://pattayacondog...Jomtien,46.html

 

 

 

You are right, the age difference between the two building is 3-5 years... depending from the buildings...

 

The average selling prices: VT5 50.000bt / square metres vs. VT2 35-40.000 / square metres... so nothing to do with the bananas.....

 

As the corridors.... here is 2 pix about the VT5 corridors, the reader may decide about the differences....is it really bigger 4 times, than the TV2 ?

 

 

http://www.agoda.com...ominium_5d.html

 

The cherry on the cake is the total lack of any security....

 

 

 

The market shows VT5 and 6 are more expensive than VT2 , the reasons are many , VT2 has a balcony you cant use silly little angle design, since then 5 and 6 have larger balconies you can use , also the wider corridors and the generators which take you up and down in a power cut, in VT2 you need to walk down , but when I was there you had to walk up also :)

 

Security is very good in VT5 and 6 with guards at the lift area and indeed patrolling the car park and bike parks taking the numbers of the bikes cars etc. In fact in 5 and 6 the security is execllent, I walked inti VT2 twice and was never asked for anything, so how good is the security >

 

VT2 is a block with inherent design faults, which VT improved as they went forward, 5 , 6 and 8 have the same spec

 

If VT was the design model it would be continued would it not ... VT2 is what it is ...

 

Oh as an aside they are not facts........ they are figures on a website :)

Edited June 30, 2012 by Parkwahn

[Gary 4,119]

This is good ?????????

The cherry on the cake is the total lack of any security....

[Gabor 296]

The market shows VT5 and 6 are more expensive than VT2 , the reasons are many , VT2 has a balcony you cant use silly little angle design, since then 5 and 6 have larger balconies you can use , also the wider corridors and the generators which take you up and down in a power cut, in VT2 you need to walk down , but when I was there you had to walk up also :)

 

Security is very good in VT5 and 6 with guards at the lift area and indeed patrolling the car park and bike parks taking the numbers of the bikes cars etc. In fact in 5 and 6 the security is execllent, I walked inti VT2 twice and was never asked for anything, so how good is the security >

 

VT2 is a block with inherent design faults, which VT improved as they went forward, 5 , 6 and 8 have the same spec

 

If VT was the design model it would be continued would it not ... VT2 is what it is ...

 

Oh as an aside they are not facts........ they are figures on a website :)

 

Yes... we have elevators traffic only upstairs....

 

No card entry system.... I walked in too to the VT5 to visit my mate there, only one security guard slept peacefully on a chair next to the elevator...

 

They went forward with some good solutions ( bigger balcony ) and some saving solutions ( small pools ) In the VT7 only one small pool for the three wings... the newer the building, the pools are shrinking...

 

Visit the website.... facts, not estimates....

[Parkwahn 61]

Yes... we have elevators traffic only upstairs....

 

No card entry system.... I walked in too to the VT5 to visit my mate there, only one security guard slept peacefully on a chair next to the elevator...

 

They went forward with some good solutions ( bigger balcony ) and some saving solutions ( small pools ) In the VT7 only one small pool for the three wings... the newer the building, the pools are shrinking...

 

Visit the website.... facts, not estimates....

 

Card entry system in VT2 lol.. I walked in there 3 times the door was wide open ..

 

With wider corridors and indeed larger balconies and units where are the savings ? there are none, the world develops cars are better now than there were 10 years ago..

 

Having a balcony you cant use and indeed and angled room due to that is not the best design, VT6, VT5 and VT are far better than VT2 it shows in the price, as for pools shrinking are you saying they are too small for the traffic ? I have seen VT6 full yet the pool has 5 people , in VT 5 I have never seen more than 5 people in the pool...

 

Its a mighty sad song you are singing Gabor, problem is sad songs aint selling this season

 

VT2 is Ok for an ageing condo block but not as good as 5,6 and 8... hence the difference in cost...

Edited June 30, 2012 by Parkwahn

[Gabor 296]

Card entry system in VT2 lol.. I walked in there 3 times the door was wide open ..

 

With wider corridors and indeed larger balconies and units where are the savings ? there are none, the world develops cars are better now than there were 10 years ago..

 

Having a balcony you cant use and indeed and angled room due to that is not the best design, VT6, VT5 and VT are far better than VT2 it shows in the price, as for pools shrinking are you saying they are too small for the traffic ? I have seen VT6 full yet the pool has 5 people , in VT 5 I have never seen more than 5 people in the pool...

 

Its a mighty sad song you are singing Gabor, problem is sad songs aint selling this season

 

VT2 is Ok for an ageing condo block but not as good as 5,6 and 8... hence the difference in cost...

 

Tell me something new... like the elevators traffic only in one direction....

 

Sad song: I'd call it the corridor song....wider 4 times blues...