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Wish there was an ignore button so we could all use it on your posts. Really dont see the meaning in this thread anymore.

 

Ian

 

Then you won't need to return. Bye bye.

 

 

I'm sure you'll find, if you bothered to look, that I post a lot of 'useful' info.

I just have a sensitive nose for bullshit.

 

Tell me, why do you attempt to single me out when, in fact, NightCrawler's first ever and subsequent posts are abuse aimed at myself?

 

I wouldn't let someone do that in person, why should I accept it online?

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NightCrawler

 

I'm going to humour you one last time.  :(

 

So far, you have described yourself as 29 years old. 6' 1" and "tons of fun". Sorry, 19 stone.

 

Ok, 6' 1" and 19 stone. That would leave you a steroid induced body builder or FAT!

 

Ugly? If you were a 29 year old handsome 6' 1" hunk of muscle, I hardly see you coming over to Pattaya for a couple of weeks of P4P.

Together with that, your highly academic qualifications and your attractive mode of employment, I can't see the English girls allowing you to leave.

Unless you're a FAT UGLY ....

If you choose to hijack a thread that I'm posting on with abuse... I don't start this cr*p, I finish it.

The fact that you are an imbecile is punishment enough.

 

 

You can have the last word...  ;)

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NightCrawler

 

I'm going to humour you one last time.  :(

 

So far, you have described yourself as 29 years old. 6' 1" and "tons of fun". Sorry, 19 stone.

 

Ok, 6' 1" and 19 stone. That would leave you a steroid induced body builder or FAT!

 

Ugly? If you were a 29 year old handsome 6' 1" hunk of muscle, I hardly see you coming over to Pattaya for a couple of weeks of P4P.

Together with that, your highly academic qualifications and your attractive mode of employment, I can't see the English girls allowing you to leave.

Unless you're a FAT UGLY ....

If you choose to hijack a thread that I'm posting on with abuse... I don't start this cr*p, I finish it.

The fact that you are an imbecile is punishment enough.

 

 

You can have the last word...  ;)

 

OK Mr Bullshit you gave me the last word and Ill take it. (though you just wont be able to stop yourself responding to this, I simply KNOW it, go on prove me wrong !)

 

Valentinoxxx posted this in response to Crackpots post in the thread    Re: The creation of Cheap Charlie

" Reply #12 on: Sep 1st, 2003, 9:16pm

Old? It seems you had started a Travel Agency not long after I was

born, according to your blurb. "Thai Travel is a company first started

in the early 80's....blah, blah, blah" "The business was sold in the

90's as I was offered a far more lucrative position with a large

International travel company, travelling extensively between the UK

and the Far East, acting as courier/rep/dogsbody/troubleshooter" Blah,

blah, blah...

 

Now lets get this straight for people who read your bullshit and

believe it eh ?

In the thread mentioned above:

You were born, as you state above, not long before Crackpot started

his business.

So lets assume he started his business sometime between 1982 and 1984 and he started his business not long after you were born. Lets say 1978-1980 for your birth OK. Right. Are you with me so far ?.

You have stated (bullshitted) elsewhere on this board that you first visited Thailand, via Singapore 11 years ago and that it was 'your first holiday on your own.  OK Fine.

 

Now for the mathematics, pay attention at the back of the class please:

:

Its 2003 now. Take away 11 years and that takes us back to 1992 for your 'supposed' first trip. That would have made you, even at a modest estimate, somewhere between 12 and 16 for your first trip to Thailand Via Singapore on your own ?. Its no wonder you never paid for your shagging, you just couldn't make enough money from your paper round to pay for it, apart from the fact that your balls probably hadn't

dropped.

Whats that smell ??? It's the smell of Bullshit that's what. Why don't you just come clean and be honest? You have been tumbled as a serial URL poster and Bullshitter.

You are either:

A) A complete and utter wannabee, inventing things that you think people will believe and adding URL's to try to back them up

B)  Far older than you state, been there a few times but want people to think you really are younger than you state and far more knowledgeable than you actually are. I mean anyone reading your posting on this thread would have to think you were pretty mature.

http://www.freelancerbar.com/cgi-bin/yabb/...62316699;start=

 

 

It was so hilarious reading your delusional dreamings on another post about being such a 'Hansum man' that you NEVER have to P4P and how you 'love the chase'

even trying to continue the bullshit about how you love the girls so much you consider them as family and even going as far as sleeping in the same room as some BG's but not even touching them. Did you take your bible with you and bless them as well? Your so full of shite, its

coming out of your ears

 

Before you go posting the idle dreamings of your geriatrically disturbed mind on this board, please get your facts straight, as you have now put your foot so firmly in your mouth you are nothing more than a

laughing stock.

There's the crap about you having spent more time in Thailand than probably anyone on this board, yet even you state, you have only been going there for 11 years, (at 14 years of age too !!)  with others going there many more times and over a longer period. Yet you still show no actual knowledge of the place. All you have knowledge of are URL's and the knowledge that you get from them. I repeat what I said before. YOU HAVE NO PHYSICAL KNOWLEDGE OF EVER HAVING BEEN THERE. Other than possibly a few times, so cut the bullshit. Stop trying to bullshit that you are such an old

hand at Pattaya. The sum total of your knowledge is obtained from Website's, and this and other Thailand boards and repeating it here as if you actually had that knowledge when its so obvious you haven't.

 

No one mind's you posting URL's, which can be helpful, but don't continue trying to back it up with tripe that the knowledge you have is from the experience of having been there more than a few times, which, as everyone can now see  is, quite plainly, nothing more than

bullshit.

 

I also note you steer well away from telling people your actual age and what job you do. Come on, spill the beans. Its no disgrace being old and retired like yourself.

Do you collect you Pension yourself or do you have it paid into your little Nationwide account. It must be a bit of a pain queuing up at the post office with all those other old OAP’s who always seem to smell of stale piss eh ?

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Then you won't need to return. Bye bye.

 

 

I'm sure you'll find, if you bothered to look, that I post a lot of 'useful' info. I just have a sensitive nose for bullshit.

 

Tell me, why do you attempt to single me out when, in fact, NightCrawler's first ever and subsequent posts are abuse aimed at myself?

 

I wouldn't let someone do that in person, why should I accept it online?

 

Valentinox,

 

I thought I wouldnt need to return to this thread as suggested by you but since you modified your original post to include a question, I will try to answer it to your satisfaction.

 

Firstly let me compliment you on some of the useful information / links that you provide for us ignorant guys   [smiley=thumbup.gif]. I have never said that you have not posted any good stuff. I do bother to look and read most of the posts on this forum. I only said that THIS thread has become useless.

 

The ignore button was suggested by you in one of your posts. I did not invent it. My comments were not aimed at you in person but for anybody that had "hijacked" a perfectly decent thread about airline ticket prices. I have hence not singled you out for anything other than the fact that the thread has become irrelevant now and has lost all its meaning. There seems to be no end to the childish trading of insults on this thread and IMHO its time we move on to better things. Most of the comments posted by others are in response to yours. I dont know what nightcrawler has against you but I think you are old enough to know when to use the "ignore" option judiciously.

 

When you said that I dont need to come back to this thread, I could have given you an ear full of my opinions - but then I dont beleive that if a dog bites me, I have to bite it back !

 

Life is too short to worry about such petty things as what somebody said to you on a message board. I do agree with you that you should never let anybody do it to you in person or online but look at it in a practical way - you will not gain anything by fighting with a faceless and annonymous person on the web [smiley=fight.gif]. Express your disapproval in no uncertain terms and leave it at that. Remember - if you throw a stone into a lump of shit, there is a very good possibility that you will be the first person it will splatter on  [smiley=puke.gif] .

 

Now I am going to take your advise seriously and keep off this thread. Will be glad to buy you abeer if we meet up sometime.

 

Cheers and keep up the good work.

Ian

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I know this flame war isn't really any of my business but here goes. This is a discussion board anyway, isn't it? I have been to BKK and Pattaya several times. To be exact, 8 times. I always enjoy my time there. I've been back 24 hours or so now and can't wait until I go again which I hope will be in a month or two.

 

I don't understand the need to know more than anyone else about Pattaya. One of the beautiful things about Pattaya is you learn something new everytime. The wonder is there for all visitors to see. When that wonder disappears, will I still want to go? I don't know.

 

What's the big deal about freebies? I'm 42 years old and not in bad nick. I wouldn't for one minute say I am handsome or a hunk. I get my fair share of ladies in the UK if I strike when the iron is hot. Although by no means am I prolific! In Pattaya I see some of the most beautiful women in the world every minute of every day. If you treat your chosen lady with kindness and respect you will receive the same in return. This last time I visited I met a wonderful lady. We had a couple of nice days out and a couple of great nights in, she didn't fall in love and neither did I. We are adults and know how the system works. On the last night we exchanged gifts and parted. We will stay in contact by email because we had a good time. That's all. As for freebies, well, everytime we did the deed we didn't agree a price or haggle (lol). We were both having a good time and that was it. Money was paid and I'm sure there was a freebie or two in there.

 

Most visitors to Pattaya will know that if you treat the lady well you will not have to discuss prices or other such things, you will have a good time and that is it. The money part just comes naturally.

 

For instance, if you take the lady shopping she will help you haggle for presents to take home and assist you in taking you to the best shops for the best bargains. For example, I bought some specialist software (engineering modelling) which saved me a considerable amount of money. Without her I wouldn't have known where to go.

 

So let's just see the business for what it is. Farangs pay for the lady's time. It isn't always just about sex, it is about two human beings (if compatible) having a good time. Getting a freebie is about as important as whether it rains on a Tuesday or not.

 

Hope this little ramble proves useful to someone. I'm not taking sides just giving my point of view.

 

Good luck!

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Tab Mule

 

We're listening....

 

You wouldn't believe the whole nonsense began about the standard of the Thai Airways Economy cabin, would you?

 

You're right in some ways.... I treat girls as friends, not as sex objects.

So,  possibly because of that, they may enjoying spending their time with me.

I don't get excited about it. Some you win ,some you lose.

 

Take care mate.

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Crackpot and valentinoxxx

 

Both of you have supplied reams of good information on this thread.

 

 

Is this information available to the average mug or do you need to be involved in or associated with the travel industry.

 

Thanks

 

John

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Crackpot and valentinoxxx

 

Both of you have supplied reams of good information on this thread.

Is this information available to the average mug or do you need to be involved in or associated with the travel industry.

Thanks

John

 

My information comes from being in the Travel Business and visiting Thailand numerous times since the 70's.

 

I havent the faintest idea where Valentinox gets his info from (I can guess though), but going by what he has posted previously, I was shagging out there before he was born ;D

 

Thats a point too, havent seen Nightcrawler around here lately.  You fallen in a bin boy  ??? Still going out next year ?

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Cheers John

 

Travelwise, I spend at least six to nine months annually on 'leisure' travel.

Since I have to pay for my own flights, I do my research.  :)

 

I've been spending around six months a year in SE Asia, so I've absorbed a little.

 

I'm still young enough to learn new tricks though.  :(

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Cheers John

 

Travelwise, I spend at least six to nine months annually on 'leisure' travel.

Since I have to pay for my own flights, I do my research.  :)

I've been spending around six months a year in SE Asia, so I've absorbed a little.

I'm still young enough to learn new tricks though.  :(

 

Thats a good job for a 25 year old then isnt it ?

 

Are there any vacancies with your employers, or have you got wealthy parents ;D ?

 

At 53 Im still young enough to learn new tricks [smiley=hippie.gif]

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My information comes from being in the Travel Business and visiting Thailand numerous times since the 70's.

 

I havent the faintest idea where Valentinox gets his info from (I can guess though), but going by what he has posted previously, I was shagging out there before he was born ;D

 

Thats a point too, havent seen Nightcrawler around here lately.  You fallen in a bin boy  ??? Still going out next year ?

 

Hi Crack

Ive been in Hospital as I had a long shard of glass that some asshole put in a Binbag, go all the way through my leg doing some serious damage. Looks like I'm going to be due for some serious compensation and some equally serious time off ;D

 

Im still on for going out next year. I booked the flight you sorted for me in January and will also be out there again in March, probably on your group

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Job? Weathy parents? You presume too much.

 

So tell all of us poor menials, how you, a 25 year old manages to spend 6 months in SE Asia without working.

 

Do some of your rich girlfriends (who you dont pay) pay for your gadding about ?, or is it, like most of what you have written all [smiley=bullshit.gif]

 

 

Cos I reckon you are just a[smiley=wanker.gif]

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Dear NightCrawler

 

Tell me why I should care what a ****head binman thinks?

 

Once you do that, tell why I would wish to help you to make money?

 

I'm happy for you to clean the streets. Just watch out for those shards of glass.

 

Now go away, there's a good boy.

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Dear NightCrawler

 

Tell me why I should care what a ****head binman thinks?

 

Once you do that, tell why I would wish to help you to make money?

 

I'm happy for you to clean the streets. Just watch out for those shards of glass.

Now go away, there's a good boy.

 

You poor sad old git, stuck at home reading how everyones having a good time and you never having been there.

The problem that I and most others have with you now Valentinox, is that you simply dont have any credibility.

You are a proven liar and serial Bullshitter.

You already made a laughing stock of yourself by posting loads of information which came from other peoples websites, and intimating that you had found this information in Thailand first hand. You added to that pile of Bullshit by telling people how you never get involved in the P4P scene. Why did you say that? because with the P4P scene, practically everyone has been involved and your bullshit and lack of knowledge would have been very quickly rumbled. Oh yes, you go to Thailand for Thai boxing 'practice' What a fucking joke you are.

Then you really put your foot in your mouth. Telling everyone you were born in the late 78-80's then telling people you went on your first trip to Thailand (via Singapore of course) 11 years ago making you only 12-13 or at the latest 14 years old for that trip. See, thats an out and out lie and [smiley=bullshit.gif]?

Your latest one is also a Gem isnt it. What are you Bullshitting to people now ? OH YES you spend about 6 months of the year in SE Asia. And when questioned on how you pay for it you go dumb. Its simply more bullshit from Billy Liar isnt it ? You should really get some treatment. Now I see on another thread that you are starting to try to get people to like you again by spouting more Bullshit about having had free phone calls to Thailand from your mobile. You know, psychiatric Hospitals could write a book about you and your makebelieve life.

Its quite easy to see you are a common liar, a sad wannabee who has missed out on going to LOS, never been to Thailand and who gets his information from other Bulletin Boards, Newsgroups and Websites then making out you actually know these facts, when it is so easy to see that you dont.

I mean I dont have any problems with wanabees, we cant all be as lucky as some and go there 4 or 5 times a year, but for someone to give out information that they dont have empirical, fist hand knowledge of, someone just passing on information that they have stolen from another website or bulletin board. and passing that info on to newbies who may be going to the far East for the first time and taking that suspect knowledge as gospel IS FUCKING DESPICABLE !

 

You are a lying slimebag of the lowest order. A sad old man sitting in a retirement home with cumstained trousers and shirt wanking off at the pics you see and forever dreaming of what could have been.

 

Now you go Away. You arent wanted and neither is your out of date, uninformed pack of lies.

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NightCrawler

 

You need to see a psychiatrist ASAP.

Your life seems to be so sh*t that you seem a little angry.

 

I 'm a little busy now, as I've my winter training schedule to do in SE Asia for the next couple of months, (I'll send you a postcard if you like) so you're going to have to find a new friend. Go and play with Crackpot.

 

I'v a good friend who's a psychologist up in Wolverhampton. If you need to speak to her.....

 

Seriously though mate, you do seem a little angry. Maybe you're not happy with your lot. You should talk to someone about it.

 

Try breathing exercises, they allow more oxygen to the brain and help with more lucid thinking.

 

 

 

Honestly, all of your assumptions so far have been 'way off the mark'. Firstly, I took you as a joke, though now I am a little concerned as to your mental health.

 

As to your latest rant about the free calls to Thailand from the UK, again it's perfectly true. Unfortunately that system changed recently,(though maybe only temporarily) so I sought another solution.

It's quite simple, though only fiscally viable to those outlined in the relevant post.

 

Anyway, seriously, look after yourself.

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I 'm a little busy now, as I've my winter training schedule to do in SE Asia for the next couple of months, (I'll send you a postcard if you like) so you're going to have to find a new friend. Go and play with Crackpot.

So you dont deny or refute the allegations of telling lies and bullshit then ?

Typical of a prize bullshitter like you, you old wanker

 

Training ? More bullshit from the king Billy Liar

 

So your going to cut and run untill your bullshit fades eh ?

 

Dont worry. Ill make sure people remember you are a serial Liar if and when you return.

 

Just fuck off with your bullshit and dont come back

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Valentino,  how did you get free calls before through vodafone ?

 

You dont actually believe that bollocks do you ?

 

Its just more bullshit from the master himself, trying to get someone to talk to him.

Hes been accused of being a serial liar and all he does is pull his head in and is going to dissapear for a while in the hope that people will forget all the lies hes spouted. Not a chance

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You dont actually believe that bollocks do you ?

 

Its just more bullshit from the master himself, trying to get someone to talk to him.

Hes been accused of being a serial liar and all he does is pull his head in and is going to dissapear for a while in the hope that people will forget all the lies hes spouted. Not a chance

 

What da  **** are you on about? What I mean is that when I am in the UK I have more time to sit at the computer.

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