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There used to be a great Pie & Mash place near Walking street that I suspect is closed now.

Anyone know if theres anywhere in Patts still doing this wonderfull London Delicacy???

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I remember it being pretty hard to find even in London. We had pease-pudding, faggots and great saveloys from a shop in Church Street market....The best fish and chips in London in Lisson Grove....Pints of shrimps outside the pubs on Sundays and eels, cockles, whelks and winkles all week long in the market at the top of Bell Street.....But I didn't taste P&M until in the 60s, I was brought on a sort of Cockney Hadj from Marylebone to a 'pie and eel' somewhere in Hammersmith for my one and only taste.....Didn't live up to expectations.....But those that love it... luv it!

 

Funnily enough, I was eating at 'Little India' in the arcade.... and noticed the restaurant next door....(as others have said), advertised Pie and Mash.....I hadn't thought about the stuff in years but it got me whistling.........

 

......'Umdidlydidilydidilyumdidilyeye'

 

On the subject of olde London fare .........

 

My uncle loved those big 'orrible green chewy whelks.....I remember on a day trip to Margate....him buying some and while walking past a couple sitting at a posh restaurant window (I think it was a Wimpy).......He stopped next to them and loudly sneezed into a hanky....spat the well chewed whelk into it.... looking shocked himself at the result..........and then in 'orrah.. showed the couple the hanky's contents.

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There used to be a great Pie & Mash place near Walking street that I suspect is closed now.

Anyone know if theres anywhere in Patts still doing this wonderfull London Delicacy???

 

I used to use The Little Wonder in the arcade quite a lot as I'm very partial to P & M and still do on occasion. The old owner from East London sold the place but never the less you can still get decent P & M there, not quite so good as when the cockney had it but still quite passable and as you know the secret is in the liquor.

 

Usually I get my P & M from Arments in Westmoreland Road, Walworth, South London. But single pie and mash is getting on for 4 quid so it's not a cheap meal any more. When I first went there in about 1962 it was a shilling (5p) So were school dinners if my memory serves me right.

 

At home in London we can make mince meat pies with the meat's own juice trapped in them. I buy the pastry already made, you just have to roll it out to shape. It's not cheap, enough pastry for four pie shop sized pies is about two and a half quid but anyone can do it just like they can make mashed potato!. Then the mince meat for four pies is around anoth three quid. Failing that most supermarkets sell frozen mince meat pies just like they do the chilli vinegar.

 

That leaves the liquor.

 

I have just discovered that Bisto now make parsley sauce, just like they do chip shop curry sauce and cheese sauce. It comes in a round cardboard container just like their gravy granules do. It's not sold everywhere but I obtained mine in Pound Stretchers

 

I've recently made my own pie, mash and liquor on two occasions and it was very palatable even if I do say so myself.

 

My son is also fond of P & M and when I told him I'd made us some for our dinner he was a bit dubious to say the least but changed his tune once he'd eaten it.

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Many thanks all.

BTW Real Liquor is made from the juice when they boil the eels then they simply add Parsley and a little flour. My mum used to work at the Pie & Mash shop in Barking, in the early 60's.

Saturday morning it was always down to the Indoor swimming pool then round to the P&M shop for double Pie & mash.

OOOOOHHH memories. There also used to be a little cafe in the market next to the indoor pool that did a cup of Oxo and a big wedge of buttered toast for sixpence.

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