The future of Long Haul - Opinions?.

[midlifecrisis]

Deadheading with flight crew on other airlines ???

 

The recent flap with UA about kicking paying customers off of the plane to accommodate crew headed to the destination comes to mind.

 

The only reason to take a plane is if it is part of regular route and has to get back or the destination needs more planes from that airline for other routes not currently covered.

 

Mostly they just give seats on existing routes to crews at company cost and consumer irritation.

[midlifecrisis]

Found this good article on the secret language of the flight crew.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3200990/The-secret-language-cabin-crew-deadheading-heavy-flight-attendants-REALLY-talking-about.html

[4wheels]

Deadheading with flight crew on other airlines ???

 

Sure THEY can deadhead but the plane is needed for scheduled trips down the line. After a huge wx event,the airlines face the most difficult situation as a huge amount of crews and planes are out of place to resume the regular schedule.

Edited August 6, 2017 by 4wheels

[midlifecrisis]

 

Sure THEY can deadhead but the plane is needed for scheduled trips down the line. After a huge wx event,the airlines face the most difficult situation as a huge amount of crews and planes are out of place to resume the regular schedule.

 

The biggest expense is getting the airplanes where they want them. Sometimes it costs money to make money. It is not fair to just say this flight lost money or that flight made money. The airlines work this stuff out with computers and talented people.

 

That said, as one person said on Fox Business, she would never invest in airline stocks.

[4wheels]

 

The biggest expense is getting the airplanes where they want them. Sometimes it costs money to make money. It is not fair to just say this flight lost money or that flight made money. The airlines work this stuff out with computers and talented people.

 

That said, as one person said on Fox Business, she would never invest in airline stocks.

 

It's a cyclical industry for sure. But whatever idiot on FOX Business said that should change careers. I've been trading my airline for nearly 40 years with very positive results in both up and down airline markets. You learn 1 stock well and trade it. And before someone says don't put all your eggs in 1 basket,believe me,I don't.

Edited August 6, 2017 by 4wheels

[short]

Eye opening:

 

[4wheels]

My airline started as a crop dusting company and years later went to hauling mail. Here's a brief synopsis of the beginning:

The Huff Daland Dusters crop-dusting operation, which formed the roots for Delta, founded in Macon, Ga. This was the first commercial agricultural flying company in existence.
What happened next?
Huff Daland Duster's headquarters moves to Monroe, La. Huff Daland's 18 planes are the largest privately owned fleet in the world. Operations range south to Florida, north to Arkansas, and west to California and Mexico.
Delta was moved to Louisiana?
Huff Daland extends dusting services to Peru. Operates the first international mail and passenger route on the west coast of South America (Lima to Paita and Talara) for Pan Am subsidiary Peruvian Airways in 1928.
Then what.
C. E. Woolman, the principal founder of Delta Air Lines, leads movement to buy Huff Daland Dusters. Renamed Delta Air Service for the Mississippi Delta region it served. D.Y. Smith, President; C.E. Woolman first Vice President.
Moving along now.
Service begins to Atlanta. Lack of mail contract forces suspension of passenger service. Company renamed Delta Air Corporation.
Delta receives Air Mail Route 24 from Post Office; resumes passenger service. Begins operating as Delta Air Lines
1940s - Delta goes to war and officially becomes Delta Air Lines, Inc.
Douglas DC-2 and DC-3 service introduced. Flight attendants, called "stewardesses," added to flight crews.

[Butch]

My airline started as a crop dusting company and years later went to hauling mail. Here's a brief synopsis of the beginning:

The Huff Daland Dusters crop-dusting operation, which formed the roots for Delta, founded in Macon, Ga. This was the first commercial agricultural flying company in existence.

What happened next?

Huff Daland Duster's headquarters moves to Monroe, La. Huff Daland's 18 planes are the largest privately owned fleet in the world. Operations range south to Florida, north to Arkansas, and west to California and Mexico.

Delta was moved to Louisiana?

Huff Daland extends dusting services to Peru. Operates the first international mail and passenger route on the west coast of South America (Lima to Paita and Talara) for Pan Am subsidiary Peruvian Airways in 1928.

Then what.

C. E. Woolman, the principal founder of Delta Air Lines, leads movement to buy Huff Daland Dusters. Renamed Delta Air Service for the Mississippi Delta region it served. D.Y. Smith, President; C.E. Woolman first Vice President.

Moving along now.

Service begins to Atlanta. Lack of mail contract forces suspension of passenger service. Company renamed Delta Air Corporation.

Delta receives Air Mail Route 24 from Post Office; resumes passenger service. Begins operating as Delta Air Lines

1940s - Delta goes to war and officially becomes Delta Air Lines, Inc.

Douglas DC-2 and DC-3 service introduced. Flight attendants, called "stewardesses," added to flight crews.

 

 

 

...And the rest as they say, is history.

 

We flew Jet Blue within the USA last year, I was very impressed indeed. Free snacks, great legroom and great customer service.