Investigation?

[PattayaPete 530]

Bigfinger

 

I **** out the girls name.  I don't want to be over controversial about this but I think we all know about the games bar girls play.

 

There are enough warnings here and elsewhere for everyone to be a bit careful and to remember that your  girl may well be different but probably not.

 

If we start outing the girls by name then my life is going to become some what difficult.  

[Bigfinger 0]

Fair Comment, I take your point.

But if anyone wants more info or the name send me a message.

It's not the fact that we have been duped...after all I have been had before.....it's they way she does it and the tails she spins........it is nasty when you discover the way she does it.

I am just as mad with myself for falling for it all.

 

Bigfinger

[SabaiCedd 0]

Yep you make a very good point Bigfinger, it is the way some of these girls operate that makes you mad. Its a case of do not trust anything your told unless it can be proven...especially if it involves money, kids schooling, sick buffalo or any other ailment that could possibly cost you baht!

Comes back to the old saying...you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl!

We live and learn!

[monkeyman 1,604]

I'm with Pete on this one.

 

Besides, do we really want this info to be given to us on a plate?  Ruins the challenge if you ask me. A bit like entering a quiz when you've seen the answers.

 

Being scammed is part of the learning curve.  No pain, no gain.  Getting fucked over is just nature's way of telling you that you still don't know all the rules of the game.

 

Must try harder.

 

 

be seeing you

monkeyman  

[Guest]

I agree with Monkeyman.  Sometimes I think that perhaps there is too much info available to Newbies which in turn detracts from the overall LOS experience.  It's good to look back and, with the benefit of hindsight, have a good chuckle at all the mistakes I made in my early trips.  It's all part of the overall experience so just treasure the good memories and move on.

 

If the girl had three or four of you guys on the go, all credit to her; she's learnt the rules and is good at the game.

 

Tom

[BigDUSA 71]

I tell my daughter to learn from her mistakes and if she is smart she will learn from other peoples mistakes.

 

These BG are smart and street wise and any info I can pass on to others.........

[irishman 0]

Unfortunately, we can thank ourselves for a lot of the problems.  

I always try and give the benefit of the doubt but how many of us have really been completely honest with our TGFs?  

They are not stupid, only sometimes uneducated.  If you demonstrate what telling stories will provide for them, they WILL  learn and quite quickly.

Why is it more unfortunate that we get burned a couple of times as opposed to them?  I can tell you the story of one BG who believed her farang boyfriend about his getting a divorce and marrying her only to wind up pregnant and alone several years later.  Much worse story in my mind than loosing a few baht and maybe a bit off the old ego.

[Bigfinger 0]

The interest in her does not seem to be waning in fact it is increasing.Another 4 enquiries today making the total to date 9.

You are right in some respects Irishman but in the words of the song' it aint what you do,it's the way that you do it'.

The 1st time it happened to me I half expected it.So I wished her luck and a good life ( she married an Italian...but she still sent me her phone number in Italy !I met her in Koh Samui ).

So I was wary the next time but for all my caution I was completely and totally hooked.I must also admit I had a wonderful time with her when I took her to Koh Samui.

More info when I get it.

 

Bigfinger

[eltib 54]

Somebody should have read Money #1 and Hello my Big Big honey. I was speaking with Tim from Mistys the other night, and he said all Newbies should be required to read those 2 books upon entering LOS.

[Bigfinger 0]

I have a copy of Money no1 !Unfortunately have only had it a few weeks.It did reinforce my doubts but by then of course it had already happened.

As I said should have known better after the 1st time.

Must say the bruised ego is now healed so roll on August.

 

Bigfinger

[Woody 0]

Hi BigD,

 

Yes she still works at the FLB.She says she is 33 I am 46 but look younger.English was so so just general chit chat on phone,the 'meaningful' stuff was kept for e-mails ( the longest I had gone without an e-mail from her was 4 days until last week ).

I do not know where she is with boyfriend she did not say when I asked in that fateful phone call but he was there.

I was with her for 4 days in Pattaya then I left for Koh Samui....I then rang her up and told her to get a flight down,which she did.......we had a great time.This was for about a week-all this took place in February.As I have already said we have kept in constant touch ever since.In fact we were due to go away on holiday together in August.

I take it from your questions you have an inkling as to who the young lady is ?

I await your reply with interest.

 

Bigfinger

 

So, from what I understand you met this lady in February and spent 4 days with her. You then spent 7 days in Koh Samui together. Since then you returned to the UK and have been emailing and phoning her. She works as a hostess and goes with men to earn a living. You now find out she has another "boyfriend" or maybe even more.

 

You are now upset because you feel she has mislead and deceived you. I don't want to sound harsh but don't you think you have been a little gullible in believing a lady you have only spent 11 days with and who shags men for a living?

 

Thai BG give a great service in the boyfriend/girlfriend experience they provide, but that is all it is.... a paid for service. You can't buy their true love. Sure, some girls fall in love with their clients and vice versa but the fact you paid this lady's bar fine for 11 days is hardly grounds for acting the jilted suitor.   [smiley=crying.gif]

[ibber 0]

"Private Dancer" by Stephen Leather should be on the list of compulsary reading for new visitors before arriving in Thailand.

 

Also, "Don't leave your brain at home" could be a great title for a new best seller

[Bigfinger 0]

Hey Woody,

 

I have already admitted I am an idiot !

Have we not corresponded before ? ie last year when a similar situation arose with me and a girl from Koh Samui ? I obviuosly did not learn my lesson and I take your point about the 'service'.

My mate reckoned they could see me comming a mile off and used to home in on me....he reckoned I should have 'emotionaly vunerable' tatooed on my forehead :)

Anyway,have just heard my best mate who lives in Tokyo and some of his mates are comming to LOS at the same time as me and mine....so Sam's Bar on Soi 8 should make a nice profit in August ( on beer sales ).

 

Cheers Bigfinger

[Bigfinger 0]

PS

 

I have read all of Stephen Leather's books except Private Dancer.

[kjvegas 2]

I say leave your heart at home when you go to LOS. Just party your ass off and have a blast.  Most of these woman have more then one boyfriend.  I my ex was a non bargirl,  but for the most part they are all the same.  When they are kids going to school I bet they are required to take a class how to screw they farang.  Thailand is a great place just leave your heart at home.    

[eltib 54]

Fair Comment, I take your point.

But if anyone wants more info or the name send me a message.

It's not the fact that we have been duped...after all I have been had before.....it's they way she does it and the tails she spins........it is nasty when you discover the way she does it.

I am just as mad with myself for falling for it all.

 

Bigfinger

 

Don't feel bad, I fell for the sob stories on my first trip. Fortunately I did my own investigating, and found out I was being fed a ton of bullshit. Which then I cut her off from email. I love yahoo email, parasites can magically disappear, with a click of the button.

[KC 0]

I spent the last week of my recent trip with the same girl, and we had a great time. I've been home 1 week and already the usual " Hello honey, can you help me e-mail has arrived" I just laughed and deleted it, can't blame her for trying though as some guys obviously do send money!!

If I see her again on my next trip I'll have some more fun with her, if she's not booked up already!! If she is I'll just go find someone else, thats half the fun of the place, so much choice but so little time!!  ;D

[Mikey 0]

 But do you really want to Know. Sometimes your better off not knowing anything.

 

    Mikey

[Joop 0]

Jesus, are you guys a bunch of jaded SOBs or what??

 

"All thai girls are the same"

"Most important thing is money"

"You can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl"

"Money number one is required newbie reading"

"Private Dancer is so true, everyone should read it..."

 

What a crock of shit guys...  I think you guys have used every cliche in the book in this thread...

 

You guys are killing me...  TGs are  no different then any other girl in the world...  You can't spend 10 days with a women and have her trust you...  that is what everything boils down to...  trust.  These chicks don't trust you any further then they can throw you...  Trust takes time...  Even if you are sending money whos to say you will keep sending it...  I had one of my "sisters" go through that one...  dude supporting her for 6 months and then nothing...  just dropped off the face of the earth... Screwed her up real good...  She wasn't messing around on him either...  contrary to this threads opinion, not all TG are the same...

 

The reason these girls act like this is because we give them every reason too.  You talk about the girls lying, bet you have never lied to one have ya...  

 

Also, I bet you that money is not important in your life either...  Food, rent, med bills, ah heck, who needs money...  I know my world revolves around my job and the money it provides...  Money is #1 in my book...  why should it be any different for these girls??

 

Like attracts like, if you are pulling all the sharks you need to look inside yourself and try to figure out why that is...

 

Check out my trip report on the members board(relationship and culture section) and tell me they are all the same... 2.5 years and going...  How long now for Pete, Ben, Gerald, Mats, etc...  

 

Good luck.

 

I need a beer

 

Joop

[Paul 0]

In my opinion---nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

If you feel you have found something special and you are ready to settle with one girl then go for it.

 

If it doesn't work out.....get another one.  If it does work out then you have what you wanted.

 

I agree with Joop.  It takes time for them to trust us just like it takes time for our trust to develop with them.

 

I just don't want to let myself get hardened to a point that I become jaded and give up.

 

I want a girl to settle down with and I will find her sooner or later.  

 

I feel I have one now and I will give it my best shot.  If it works out for me then great and if it doesn't then I will move on and wish her the best.

 

To me women are a lot like gambling......never bet more then you can afford to lose.

 

As long as there are guys who succeed with women in LOS then those of us that want to find love have a chance.

 

Joop has a great lady and son there.  If he didn't fight for it and stick it out through hard times he wouldn't have what he does.

 

If all else fails, there's always the Pump Station for a quick fix.

 

Beach Boy

[Bigfinger 0]

I work for a construction company.One of my projects is a new school . The clients head of procurement like me visits Pattaya and makes no secret of it.At a meeting the other week the Headmistress of the new school asked him if he had enjoyed his last trip,which he replied'yes very much' then she asked did he have a special person or lady he sees when he goes there,he turned round and looked her in the eye and said'...I would not go all that way for just one woman'...no one could think of a reply and I found myself nodding in agreement.I think it is a very good point of view.

With that thought in mind roll on 16th August.

 

Bigfinger

[Soi7 1]

Shit give me the right woman and I would go that far and further for just one I know JimmyBB would also if she had big hands.

[monkeyman 1,604]

Joop's dead right.

 

Thai girls ain't so much different from from any other girls in the world.

 

We just pay 'em to pretend that they are.

 

be seeing you

monkeyman

[Bigfinger 0]

One thing I now know from all the private messages I have received is that there is another girl at the FLB who seems to have a lot of guys on the hook.

I had twice as many messages naming her and asking if it was my lady as I did about mine.

By coincidence both girls are not on the Hostesses picture board.....could these two then be the 'Lady X's' ?

 

 

Bigfinger

[monkeyman 1,604]

I stopped taking girls from FLB some time ago. This thread just reminded me why.

 

be seeing you

monkeyman