Thai airways cancel some LHR flights

[grs90 49]

I've just been bumped off my evening flight out of Heathrow and rebooked on the morning one. They are blaming the floods but expect it is due to people cancelling bookings meaning it isn't worth them having 2 flights per day. Will cost me over £100 to change my train tickets and causes me no end of problems with work but at least I'll still get there!!

 

Anyone else affected?

 

From the thai airways website

THAI flight cancellation

 

Thai Airways International regrets to announce that due to the current flood crisis in Thailand, the following flights will be cancelled.

 

TG916 (departing Bangkok at 1330 to London at 1935) and TG917 (departing London at 2135 to Bangkok at 1555 of the following day) on 15, 22, 23, 24, 29 and 30 November 2011.

 

We would like to apologize for any inconvenience caused. I f you need any further assistance concerning a cancellation, refund or re-booking of your reservation regarding these flights, please do not hesitate to contact your travel agent or our Reservations Office on 0844 561 0911.

 

For your information, Suvarnabhumi Airport is still operating as normal.

 

* This announcement is made on 10 November 2011.

[joekicker 53]

I've just been bumped off my evening flight out of Heathrow and rebooked on the morning one. They are blaming the floods but expect it is due to people cancelling bookings meaning it isn't worth them having 2 flights per day.

 

Thanks for the background.

 

"But"? Wouldn't that be the same thing?

 

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[Montydog 135]

Claim on you T.I should be an open and shut case. Even a freebie in a LHR hotel for the night?

[Gus 97]

It seems strange to blame it on the floods when they say Suvarnabhumi is operating normally, also the flights which are cancelled to the 30th are mostly midweek ones.

 

Maybe the crew cannot reach BKK on those days because of water problems.

[Bazle 1,480]

It seems strange to blame it on the floods when they say Suvarnabhumi is operating normally, also the flights which are cancelled to the 30th are mostly midweek ones.

 

Maybe the crew cannot reach BKK on those days because of water problems.

To re-iterate what is said above but to do so more succinctly, it is likely that people are cancelling/postponing their flights to LOS because of the floods and Thai Airways are consolidating their flights. Therefore, Thai Airways feel they can blame the floods for the cancellation.

[glynbuk 29]

Could it be they use the floods to get out of paying compensation etc ???

[chatkeow 28]

It seems strange to blame it on the floods when they say Suvarnabhumi is operating normally, also the flights which are cancelled to the 30th are mostly midweek ones.

 

Maybe the crew cannot reach BKK on those days because of water problems.

 

There was another guy reporting that his Emirates flight out of Swampy was only 20% full. Could be a mixture of people not making flights, or cancelling trips in the first place ??

[joekicker 53]

It seems strange to blame it on the floods when they say Suvarnabhumi is operating normally, also the flights which are cancelled to the 30th are mostly midweek ones.

 

The floods are why people cancel their trip to Thailand, which is why planes are half full which is why THAI flies half as many flights.

 

What else would you blame?

 

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[jacko 8,813]

The floods are why people cancel their trip to Thailand, which is why planes are half full which is why THAI flies half as many flights.

 

What else would you blame?

 

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Well Emirates did fly half full, Thai didn't.

[joekicker 53]

Well Emirates did fly half full, Thai didn't. whistling

 

Um. Well, yes. And the reason Emirates was half full? And the reason THAI did fly, but flew fewer flights? Different reasons? Nothing to do with floods?

 

Reset. I'm saying the floods are the reason that caused THAI to decide it had so few passengers that it cancelled floods. And I'll add that the floods are the reason Emirates had so few passengers. I'd sure take any correction. Do you think there's a different reason? Or, better, do you KNOW there's a different reason that you can sock it to me with?

 

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[jacko 8,813]

Um. Well, yes. And the reason Emirates was half full? And the reason THAI did fly, but flew fewer flights? Different reasons? Nothing to do with floods?

 

Reset. I'm saying the floods are the reason that caused THAI to decide it had so few passengers that it cancelled floods. And I'll add that the floods are the reason Emirates had so few passengers. I'd sure take any correction. Do you think there's a different reason? Or, better, do you KNOW there's a different reason that you can sock it to me with?

 

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I am suggesting that 'floods' was not the total reason, or even, like the OP, that Thai used 'floods' more as an excuse, rather than reason. There were passengers booked for the flight, there is no flooding at the airport, neither LHR, nor Survarnabhumi, and the flight was scheduled, then withdrawn. Despite the 'floods' there were plenty of flights going up and down in Thailand. The real reason could be attributed to lower passenger numbers, or the fact that Thai have little regard for schedules or inconveniencing passengers, cancelling flight with just a few days notice.

 

Thai could have said due to 'reduced passenger numbers', but instead blamed the floods, which apparently is fine by you, but I think they should have blamed global warming! Then GE, then Bush.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Thai could have said due to 'reduced passenger numbers', but instead blamed the floods, which apparently is fine by you, but I think they should have blamed global warming! Then GE, then Bush.

 

Thai is quite specific in stating that it is combining flights. They don't blame the floods, but refer to the flood situation, and couldn't really be much clearer than they have been.

 

From their website ...

 

THAI Information for Flood Situation in Thailand

Thai Airways flights to and from Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport continue to operate as normal. Some flights may be combined in which customers booked will be duly informed and re-accomodated on alternative flight.

 

 

Edited November 13, 2011 by CheshireTom

[joekicker 53]

I am suggesting that 'floods' was not the total reason, or even, like the OP, that Thai used 'floods' more as an excuse,

 

Yes. In fact you're not really suggesting it, you are stating it. But you don't or won't say what IS the total reason.

 

Thai could have said due to 'reduced passenger numbers', but instead blamed the floods, which apparently is fine by you,

 

I... er, "suggested" that reduced passenger numbers is because of the floods. I "suggest" the hip bone's connected to the leg bone. I can't think of any other reason BUT floods. You won't state another reason. So far, in our search for reasons we have the following reasons stated:

 

1. Floods.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing a longer list.

 

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[9cisco999 107]

Yes. In fact you're not really suggesting it, you are stating it. But you don't or won't say what IS the total reason.

 

 

 

I... er, "suggested" that reduced passenger numbers is because of the floods. I "suggest" the hip bone's connected to the leg bone. I can't think of any other reason BUT floods. You won't state another reason. So far, in our search for reasons we have the following reasons stated:

 

1. Floods.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing a longer list.

 

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Isn't the world economy having some issues?

 

 

[joekicker 53]

Isn't the world economy having some issues?

 

Are you a student of my wife? Did you know that she answers questions with questions?

 

If you think the world economy stopped some THAI flights, put it down, be ready to defend it.

 

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[jacko 8,813]

Yes. In fact you're not really suggesting it, you are stating it. But you don't or won't say what IS the total reason.

 

 

 

I... er, "suggested" that reduced passenger numbers is because of the floods. I "suggest" the hip bone's connected to the leg bone. I can't think of any other reason BUT floods. You won't state another reason. So far, in our search for reasons we have the following reasons stated:

 

1. Floods.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing a longer list.

 

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Because if it is a TOTAL reason, surely it is a sum of it's parts.

The floods did not stop them flying the aircraft in any way whatsoever, as a reason, it doesn't hold water (haha).

 

I suggest it was to save money, reduce costs, primarily, a business decision.

You can take it back up the cause and effect train if you like, via reduced passenger load (cancellations) blah blah, floods, global warming, Chines fossil fuel burning. Thai didn't like your 'reduced passenger numbers' and chose floods...

 

I saw the Thai announcement, it included the statement For your information, Suvarnabhumi Airport is still operating as normal

That is erroneuous too, there are fewer Thai flights landing and taking off.

[joekicker 53]

The floods did not stop them flying the aircraft in any way whatsoever, as a reason, it doesn't hold water (haha).

 

Pretty tortured. The hip bone is NOT connected to the leg bone, there's a little fluid (hahahaha) in between.

 

That is erroneuous too, there are fewer Thai flights landing and taking off.

 

The airport operations have nothing to do with flight frequencies. If "normal operations" is connected to airline schedules, then airport operations are NEVER normal, ever, anywhere in the world. Which is logically silly, impossible, or both.

 

Plus of course you (and I) have no idea how many THAI flights are landing and taking off at/from Suvarnabhumi.

 

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[jacko 8,813]

Pretty tortured. The hip bone is NOT connected to the leg bone, there's a little fluid (hahahaha) in between.

 

 

 

The airport operations have nothing to do with flight frequencies. If "normal operations" is connected to airline schedules, then airport operations are NEVER normal, ever, anywhere in the world. Which is logically silly, impossible, or both.

 

Plus of course you (and I) have no idea how many THAI flights are landing and taking off at/from Suvarnabhumi.

 

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Semantics and back pedalling.

And the airport operations also have nothing to do with the floods in Bangkok (Suk).

Or Thai's schedule and failure to adhere to it.

Despite Thai using them as dubious excuses to renegade on flights they had scheduled then yanked from their customers, who had already paid for them.

Edited November 13, 2011 by jacko

[joekicker 53]

Semantics and back pedalling.

 

What he said. What *I* said.

 

Tell me this, also your opinion. Without the Bangkok floods -- just Bangkok -- do you think THAI would have "consolidated" London flights?

 

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[jacko 8,813]

What he said. What *I* said.

 

Tell me this, also your opinion. Without the Bangkok floods -- just Bangkok -- do you think THAI would have "consolidated" London flights?

 

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They didn't consolidate any flights, they cancelled some.

Their words, on the Thai UK website.

And as to Thai, I believe they cancel flights quite readily, reasons given being whatever, I have no proof that the floods were the reason this time. I do believe the floods are responsible for the price of computers going up though! I have had such an incidence related to me already.

 

Coincidentally on Stickman...

A Brit was told by Thai Airways that one of their two daily flights from London to Bangkok was cancelled because the crew were unable to get to the airport in Bangkok because of the flooding. Surely Thai, like most major airlines, has staff on standby upon whom they can call for contingencies such as this? Is it that there simply weren't enough passengers for two flights and an excuse was made to save face? Unwittingly they have perpetuated the idea that the flood situation is so bad that people can't get to the airport!

Edited November 14, 2011 by jacko

[joekicker 53]

They didn't consolidate any flights, they cancelled some.

 

Very cool. Tell me this, also your opinion. Without the Bangkok floods -- just Bangkok -- do you think THAI would have "cancelled" London flights?

 

I do believe the floods are responsible for the price of computers going up though! I have had such an incidence related to me already.

 

And now it's my turn. Like the Elton John song, The Circle of Strife. The people who sell computers say that the floods caused the hard-drive factories to shut down. Of course we know, the floods did no such thing, you and I, don't we?

 

Meanwhile, though, the prices of computers haven't gone up. The price of hard drives has risen. But you can still get a computer for the same old price, without a hard drive. Or with a different kind of storage, SSD for example, still the same old price for computers with them, too.

 

Coincidentally on Stickman...

A Brit was told by Thai Airways that one of their two daily flights from London to Bangkok was cancelled because the crew were unable to get to the airport in Bangkok because of the flooding. Surely Thai, like most major airlines, has staff on standby upon whom they can call for contingencies such as this? Is it that there simply weren't enough passengers for two flights and an excuse was made to save face? Unwittingly they have perpetuated the idea that the flood situation is so bad that people can't get to the airport!

 

I MIGHT barely give slight credibility to the story that a THAI person told this porker to a passenger -- except it's Stickman. So I'm going to dismiss it. If a reliable source comes up with it, fine. I don't believe the actual story, whether a THAI person said it or not.

 

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[jacko 8,813]

Without the Bangkok floods -- just Bangkok -- do you think THAI would have "cancelled" London flights?

 

Addressed in my prior post. Why are Bangkok floods specific to London flights?

 

Meanwhile, though, the prices of computers haven't gone up. The price of hard drives has risen. But you can still get a computer for the same old price, without a hard drive. Or with a different kind of storage, SSD for example, still the same old price for computers with them, too.

The price of a specific computer has gone up, I said an incidence, I had it related to me, read more closely Joe.

I MIGHT barely give slight credibility to the story that a THAI person told this porker to a passenger -- except it's Stickman. So I'm going to dismiss it. If a reliable source comes up with it, fine. I don't believe the actual story, whether a THAI person said it or not.

I shall go along with the OP, he didn't believe what Thai told him, and I agree with him. Knowing Thai is lying to customers gives Stickman's post more credence to me.

[keyman 1,413]

I have heard that the car park at the airport (not Heathrow!!) is being used to house those displaced by the floods and it's restricting access to the airport to just taxis and minibuses, etc, but not private cars.

Any confirmation from the sharp end?

 

 

Keyman

[joekicker 53]

I shall go along with the OP, he didn't believe what Thai told him, and I agree with him. Knowing Thai is lying to customers gives Stickman's post more credence to me.

 

Well, that's just the sun rising, and isn't proof or denial to me. I *can* believe a THAI person said it, but I have no particular reason to believe this specific incident, that's all. An airline person, a THAI airline person passed along a story. Yes? And?

 

I have heard that the car park at the airport (not Heathrow!!) is being used to house those displaced by the floods and it's restricting access to the airport to just taxis and minibuses, etc, but not private cars.

Any confirmation from the sharp end?

 

People are "living" at Don Muang, not Suvarnabhumi. There are no air operations at Don Muang.

 

The Suvarnabhumi car parks have been quite full recently because of floods, and I wouldn't count on getting parked at busy times for a few more days. But there is no restriction on access.

 

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[Hami123456 7]

Lots of people switched their destination as soon the flood began so they can still get good deals on other destinations, also the flood has a direct and indirect impact, so if there is some items not in the market or a disease caused by contaminated water, people can still blame the flood, you don’t have to sink in the water to be affected by the flood.