Spankys VIP X Pat Card

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

 

"Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:07 AM

As of yesterday Spankys now has a VIP card for x pats.. Anyone who lives in Pattaya who has some way to show us an ID anything gets this card ....."

 

 

I had an "interesting" experience in Spanky's this evening, trying to get one of these VIP cards for expats.

 

I'm an old guy who has lost most of my hearing. To try and protect what's left, I always wear earplugs when I go into any gogo bar.

I've been an expat in Bangkok for many years, now living in Pattaya on an Education visa for nearly a year. I've been in Spanky's Bangkok several times, and in Spanky's Pattaya a couple times, mostly good experiences. So I was hoping to get a VIP card.

 

This evening when I came in and sat down, earplugs in, I signed my request to see a drinks menu. This was produced, but was an odd plastic card, badly smudged, and partly unreadable. This is not good.

 

Before ordering, I showed my rent receipt for my apartment in Pattaya, thinking this would be enough evidence that I am an expat living here. On the back of this receipt I wrote "Can I have a discount card?" and "มีบัตรลดราคาไหม"

I hoped to show that by writing in Thai the rough equivalent of what I had written in English, that I was indeed an expat, who had enough interest in Thailand to learn some Thai.

 

This did not get a favorable response from the waitress, who called over a Thai guy, a manager I guess. He looked at my rent receipt with my name on it, and demanded more identification. I showed him my ID card from Pattaya International Hospital. He dismissed this out of hand--not satisfactory. So I next showed him my California driver license, a photo ID. He took this outside the bar for a couple minutes, returning it to me as again not satisfactory. Then he wrote "คุณมีบัตรไทยการ์ด" which means "You have a Thai ID card".

 

At this point I could sense this was going tits-up, and would not end well. I tried to mollify him by pointing at the part of the menu that was readable and tried ordering a Leo beer (120 baht). Then I wrote in response "ผมฝรั่ง !!" "I am a farang !!"

 

This did not go over well, and the beer that I'd tried to order did not come. I was left alone for a while to think about what I had done wrong. I thought that maybe the guy wanted to see my passport. I do carry a laminated color copy of it; so I wrote "คุณอยากดู Passport ไหม ?" "Do you want to see my Passport?" I couldn't remember how to write Passport in Thai. This caused a short powwow of the Thai guy and the waitress. She came to me first, and motioned me to leave the bar, then she wrote "ไม่มีบัตร ทำไม่ได้" meaning "We don't have this card and cannot give it to you" or "Fuck off and get out of here now"; I'm not sure which interpretation is correct, but I think the latter may be closer to the truth. I can read Thais' body language, and I know by now when I have pissed them off.

 

So I have to wonder why. Can anyone (Mr. Marc?) help me understand what I did wrong?

 

You did nothing wrong! I am sorry as I have been out of town and not on the boards! I dont know what their problem is, power trip ? Ha Ha... I will deal with this today! Please come get a card and I am very sorry for the inconvience! Your card will be ready and waiting ... This is the problem with having a bar you leave a few days and always some stupid problem, I will have a serious talk with my staff about all this... Thanks for letting me know as this is what I love about these boards it helps me to improve the bar so much.. I want Spankys to be a bar with no pressure no hassles a place you can realx look at some hot fun girls and have a great experience! Thanks for coming in and let me assure you there will be no more problems... All the best, Marc

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

jacko, thanks for your feedback.

 

A day later, now that I've had a chance to think about what (didn't) happen, I have an idea as to why.

 

The waitress last evening jabbed her finger at my face, right away when I sat down, and then pointed it at her head a couple of times; I think she was trying to sign that she remembered my face, and not in a good way.

 

About two months ago I bought a LD for a very attractive dancer in Spanky's, and was definitely ready to barfine her --- until, after being with me for a couple minutes, she went to sit with another customer. The drink I'd bought her was unfinished. In fairness to her, the other customer was probably a known contributor to her monthly income, and was about to do so again. She did seem to smile apologetically at me, from under his arm, as I paid for her quickie drink and left the bar, frustrated.

 

About two weeks later, I came back into Spanky's and she was there dancing. She even hit me a couple of times to get my attention, but sadly I was not in the mood, and ignored her. My mistake, and I do regret this. This may have upset her, and was witnessed by all the staff there.

 

Could this have been enough for me to become persona non grata in Spanky's?

If you are buying a girl drinks and they leave this is just rude! I will fix all these problems and buy your next drink when you come in.. I am sorry you had a bad experience thank you for letting me know! As these forums help me to improve what I might never know ! I have been out of town a few weeks and Thais dont really get the whole customer service thing, I will have a serious talk with staff today and I hope you will come back and have a great experience! Thanks again for the post and all the best, Marc

[steamer 158]

hahaha

 

 

what about the institutionalized LD scam where ALL girls leave their punter to jump on stage at the same time.?

 

Rest assured not all of the girls informed the punter what was going on nor did they all return to their "dates".

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

hahaha

 

 

what about the institutionalized LD scam where ALL girls leave their punter to jump on stage at the same time.?

 

Rest assured not all of the girls informed the punter what was going on nor did they all return to their "dates".

Absolutely! This all will be fixed today :)

[Gabor 296]

 

 

So I have to wonder why. Can anyone (Mr. Marc?) help me understand what I did wrong?

 

I tell you what you did wrong: You tried to impress them with your thai knowledge, instead to show your retired visa or your work permit...( electric bill on your name ) so simple... me and my two other expat mates made the discount card without any hassles, questions and prompt... A rent receipt of a condo, a californian drivers license, a PIH card has nothing to do being an expat in Pattaya... any 2 week visitor can show....

 

I came back into Spanky's and she was there dancing. She even hit me a couple of times to get my attention, but sadly I was not in the mood, and ignored her. My mistake, and I do regret this. This may have upset her, and was witnessed by all the staff there.

 

Could this have been enough for me to become persona non grata in Spanky's?

 

It can happen in Spanky's.... In the high season an ex regular - barfined beforehand a few times - always was good for a ladydrink when I was with my mates in the bar....No barfine intentions, just the stagparty....Once I visited the bar alone to hunt...A ladydrink etc... she apologized, too many customers, too many ladydrinks, she don't want to go with me tonight.... OK, no problems, can happen in any bars... I can understand her.... I just mentioned her, if i'm coming alone, come to me only if you want to go with me, otherways let me look on the other girls.... From this moment i'm a persona non grata in the bar.... Ignored, like a piece of vomit...

 

Anyway... I like the bar, I drag my mates there but I know what to expect...

[steamer 158]

A new play list would also be appreciated.

 

 

Kinda tired of hearing the same old stuff there

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYD4rNz2UZ8

 

 

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

I am on it ! Working on new shows also.. Thanks for coming bro if you know my playlist so well you must really like the bar! :) Good news.... All the best, Marc

Edited May 29, 2013 by spankys bar soi diamond

[thailien 3]

Marc, Jacko and Gabor,

 

Thanks to all of you for your feedback on this thread.

 

Marc, I really appreciate your sincere efforts to run a farang-friendly go-go bar in this face-conscious nation. I would not want to be doing what you are doing; I hope you somehow continue to succeed in your commendable efforts. Still, I will give Spanky's a miss for at least a couple months, hoping that the loss of face that I caused the lovely dancer (who had previously stiffed me) will fade from the elephantine memories of the Thai staff. For sure, I will not ask for a free drink, tho I thank you for your kind offer.

 

Jacko, I tried to give an honest account of what happened, to the best of my recollection. I have refused to pay for LDs that I have been stiffed on in past years in Bangkok, and have emerged unscathed. But this was many years ago. I would probably not be so bold again, these days, after reading about bar staff assaults on recalcitrant customers. But in this case, I did pay for her LD, even tho it sat there, unfinished, staring at me, as she sat over there, staring at me from under the other customer's loving arm.

 

Gabor, I enjoy your writing style, and I congratulate you for writing so prolifically in a language that is not your own. Please keep on posting. You are already a legend. I fear that you may be correct that the Thai staff did not appreciate my trying to impress them with my knowledge of their written language. I don't understand why, but I have found considerable negative reaction to my efforts to communicate by writing with bar girls in their own language. For me, it could be great practice in learning Thai, and I have enjoyed writing sessions with a few literate girls, with little or no speaking between us. My hearing problems, combined with the ever-present loud "music" makes hearing almost impossible for me in the bars. I'm happy to buy LDs for any girl who is willing to write with me, esp. if I can read her handwriting (usually a problem). There have been a few, tho sadly few and far between, who have been pleasant and helpful in my efforts to practice Thai writing. Many more seem puzzled, put off, or displeased by my unfamiliar efforts to communicate with them by writing in Thai. Do they really fear that I might "know too mutt"?

[MM 6,562]

As to your last question..I'd say no. I've never encountered a Thai girl who doesn't appreciate being able to converse in Thai.

 

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[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

Marc, Jacko and Gabor,

 

Thanks to all of you for your feedback on this thread.

 

Marc, I really appreciate your sincere efforts to run a farang-friendly go-go bar in this face-conscious nation. I would not want to be doing what you are doing; I hope you somehow continue to succeed in your commendable efforts. Still, I will give Spanky's a miss for at least a couple months, hoping that the loss of face that I caused the lovely dancer (who had previously stiffed me) will fade from the elephantine memories of the Thai staff. For sure, I will not ask for a free drink, tho I thank you for your kind offer.

 

Jacko, I tried to give an honest account of what happened, to the best of my recollection. I have refused to pay for LDs that I have been stiffed on in past years in Bangkok, and have emerged unscathed. But this was many years ago. I would probably not be so bold again, these days, after reading about bar staff assaults on recalcitrant customers. But in this case, I did pay for her LD, even tho it sat there, unfinished, staring at me, as she sat over there, staring at me from under the other customer's loving arm.

 

Gabor, I enjoy your writing style, and I congratulate you for writing so prolifically in a language that is not your own. Please keep on posting. You are already a legend. I fear that you may be correct that the Thai staff did not appreciate my trying to impress them with my knowledge of their written language. I don't understand why, but I have found considerable negative reaction to my efforts to communicate by writing with bar girls in their own language. For me, it could be great practice in learning Thai, and I have enjoyed writing sessions with a few literate girls, with little or no speaking between us. My hearing problems, combined with the ever-present loud "music" makes hearing almost impossible for me in the bars. I'm happy to buy LDs for any girl who is willing to write with me, esp. if I can read her handwriting (usually a problem). There have been a few, tho sadly few and far between, who have been pleasant and helpful in my efforts to practice Thai writing. Many more seem puzzled, put off, or displeased by my unfamiliar efforts to communicate with them by writing in Thai. Do they really fear that I might "know too mutt"?

Maybe you should write to them in english and see how that goes :) Also maybe if you tell them you cant hear then they will pay more attention to what your writing? Sometimes I just dont think that they think ok.. I agree 100% if I buy a girl a drink and she runs away its not a good feeling and as far as I am concerned should not happen in any a go go bar but at the same time your dealing with 2 different cultures whats rude to us I believe they dont even think about in her mind she probally just saw this other customer who might have been more intrested in her mind, and less work so I doubt she even thought she was being rude..

I definatley dont think she meant to make you loose any face! I think your thinking way to much about a drink... This is why my management have to tell them every day not to do things like this because I truly believe from being in this business if they are not told all the time about our culture then they just dont know... But I am sure they have already forgotten probally in the first 5 minutes it definately would not take months:) .. I am sorry this happened and I hope to see you back at Spankys.. As the Thais say! Dont think to much ha ha ..The probelm has been fixed.. All the best, Marc

[thailien 3]

MM, Conversing in Thai is maybe not the same as writing in Thai. Talking is easier than writing, and my odd way of dealing with hearing problems in loud music environments tends to discourage illiterate girls, lazy girls, and non-Thai girls. It's also a good way of dealing with girls that I want to go away and stop bothering me.

 

Marc, Thanks again for your kind replies. I didn't lose face with the girl who stiffed me, as we farangs aren't nearly as worried about loss of face as the Thais are, as of course you know. My fear is that I caused her to lose face during my second visit to Spanky's, when I pointedly ignored her, despite her obvious attempts to get my attention. I was still a bit miffed by her stiffing me two weeks before, and (stupidly) wanted to get back at her. Again, my mistake, which I regret.

 

I have tried to write in English with some bar girls, but this usually doesn't get far, and is not nearly as interesting to me as trying to communicate in written Thai, which I have real interest in learning. Practice sure helps.

I normally do try to help them understand that I don't hear well, either by sign language, or by starting my writing efforts with

ขอโทษ ผมไม่ได้ยิน which means "I'm sorry, I cannot hear". So I try to let them know why I am doing this very strange Thai writing thing. BTW, I did not do any of this with the lovely girl who stiffed me. I was so hot for her body that I tried to do it the old-fashioned way, by talking, touching and smiling. Oh well.... The other customer was much younger than me.

 

Cultural differences can be difficult and sometimes dangerous. You are a warrior on the front lines in this conflict. I am just an old retired veteran, who can't be bothered with most of it any more. Still, I've always enjoyed spending time in gogo bars in several countries, and hope to continue doing so for some years yet. I will be back in Spanky's again for sure, tho probably in Nana, on my next trip to Bangkok, before Soi Diamond. I wish you every success, and appreciate your interest.

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

MM, Conversing in Thai is maybe not the same as writing in Thai. Talking is easier than writing, and my odd way of dealing with hearing problems in loud music environments tends to discourage illiterate girls, lazy girls, and non-Thai girls. It's also a good way of dealing with girls that I want to go away and stop bothering me.

 

Marc, Thanks again for your kind replies. I didn't lose face with the girl who stiffed me, as we farangs aren't nearly as worried about loss of face as the Thais are, as of course you know. My fear is that I caused her to lose face during my second visit to Spanky's, when I pointedly ignored her, despite her obvious attempts to get my attention. I was still a bit miffed by her stiffing me two weeks before, and (stupidly) wanted to get back at her. Again, my mistake, which I regret.

 

I have tried to write in English with some bar girls, but this usually doesn't get far, and is not nearly as interesting to me as trying to communicate in written Thai, which I have real interest in learning. Practice sure helps.

I normally do try to help them understand that I don't hear well, either by sign language, or by starting my writing efforts with

ขอโทษ ผมไม่ได้ยิน which means "I'm sorry, I cannot hear". So I try to let them know why I am doing this very strange Thai writing thing. BTW, I did not do any of this with the lovely girl who stiffed me. I was so hot for her body that I tried to do it the old-fashioned way, by talking, touching and smiling. Oh well.... The other customer was much younger than me.

 

Cultural differences can be difficult and sometimes dangerous. You are a warrior on the front lines in this conflict. I am just an old retired veteran, who can't be bothered with most of it any more. Still, I've always enjoyed spending time in gogo bars in several countries, and hope to continue doing so for some years yet. I will be back in Spanky's again for sure, tho probably in Nana, on my next trip to Bangkok, before Soi Diamond. I wish you every success, and appreciate your interest.

Thanks old timer! :) Your next trip will run smoother and I have your member card waiting for you in Pattaya already all you have to do its under your screenname thailein... I am glad you like Spankys and thanks for the kind words! All the best, Spanky

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

Some new hotties in Spankys and new shows starting this week should be a lot of fun! Hope to see you in Spankys soi diamond ! All the best, Spanky

[thailien 3]

Thanks, Mr Spanky, This evening I managed to get my Spanky's card, as you promised.

 

I would like to compliment your cashier, whose ability to write in English is better than my efforts to write in Thai. She was helpful, and gave me the card without much hassle.

 

However, the waitress with glasses was a little problem for me. From the moment when I sat down and ordered a Leo beer, for which I paid full price, I was always feeling unwelcome pressure from her. She wanted me to buy a drink for a fully-clothed hello girl who led me inside to my seat, and who I had a hard time shaking off, as I was not attracted to her, and wanted to check out the un-clothed dancers.

 

The two most attractive un-clothed dancers had their bare breasts in the faces of two of the few other customers in the bar. They were definitely having fun. I was not, tho some unattractive dancers hit me with the Spanky sticks to get my attention. OK, never mind...

 

This waitress shook my beer twice within ten minutes, as I was enjoying the dancers on stage. Once is OK, but twice is once too many. So I paid the check and proceeded to get the expat card from your excellent cashier, who wrote her explanation of the card's policy in good English.

 

Thanks to her, I understand that on my next visit to Spanky's, only my drinks will be discounted, which is all that I could expect. I will return. Please give your cashier a raise. She is worth it.

[papillon 695]

Fucking hate Waitresses that do the lift and swirl on my beer bottle, sometimes looking into it like a telescope. Fuck off, I'll call you when I'm ready.

[vidman 2]

Marc

 

you could put your bars likeability up by 100% by returning to serving draft beer.

 

Also in all the times i have been in there (since scott's departure) ...i have never seen you about.

 

On a positive note your bar WAS the best fun and value around. I hope it returns to beng that.

 

Vid

[teelack 9,645]

Plus 1 from me as well.

 

Marc

 

you could put your bars likeability up by 100% by returning to serving draft beer.

 

Also in all the times i have been in there (since scott's departure) ...i have never seen you about.

 

On a positive note your bar WAS the best fun and value around. I hope it returns to beng that.

 

Vid

[harro1 256]

Marc

 

you could put your bars likeability up by 100% by returning to serving draft beer.

 

Also in all the times i have been in there (since scott's departure) ...i have never seen you about.

 

On a positive note your bar WAS the best fun and value around. I hope it returns to beng that.

 

Vid

Get the card. 80 Baht a beer, ask for a glass.

[teelack 9,645]

The last time I read this subject proof of Pattaya residency was required to get the card. Has this system changed? Its a bit dire suggesting that we emigrate to get a reduced price beer. IMHO a discount deal like this is quite counter productive and gives a discount to the minority, ignoring the majority of visitors who turn up on a regular basis.

Get the card. 80 Baht a beer, ask for a glass.

[harro1 256]

The last time I read this subject proof of Pattaya residency was required to get the card. Has this system changed? Its a bit dire suggesting that we emigrate to get a reduced price beer. IMHO a discount deal like this is quite counter productive and gives a discount to the minority, ignoring the majority of visitors who turn up on a regular basis.

Yes you can get a card if they haven't run out.

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

Yes you can get a card if they haven't run out.

Come and get the card man ! :) Hope to see you at Spankys soi diamond pattaya!

[harro1 256]

Come and get the card man ! :) Hope to see you at Spankys soi diamond pattaya!

 

I got mine already.I come in probably twice a week when i'm not away working. Do you have any feed back from your software about how much they get used? Just interested to see if you think they have been successful.

[spankys bar soi diamond 36]

I got mine already.I come in probably twice a week when i'm not away working. Do you have any feed back from your software about how much they get used? Just interested to see if you think they have been successful.

Defineatly the bar has been a success! Customers love the card and its great that I keep seeing the same guys coming back! Thanks guys for all the support, Pattaya has been rockin and this week lots of new girls! All the best, Spanky

[steamer 158]

I was in a few nights ago and got mine. I don't live in Thailand but the servers know me. All I showed them was an expired drivers liscence and a hotel business card. They want an email address but you could just give them a fake one. As a side note 'my girl' hadn't a clue that they even existed.

[steamer 158]

Is the card good in BKK as well?