X zone Is open and has not closed as pubished by others

[shenzhenau 0]

if she was already booked why was she negotiating with me,,a simple i,m taken already is ok by me....the guy wasn,t a cc by the amount of lady drinks he bought but too wait till exactly 1.30am to finally barfine was odd,,but a wise man once told me,",this is PATTAYA."..all in all your club is better than most in walking street and phill does a great job.

[shenzhenau 0]

oh,,i,ll give a report back when i barfine from another establishment tonight ,hopefully the process is a lot less complicated..i,ll see if first in line means something there, and i won,t be waiting till late in the nite to get the cc barfine rate. might even call in for a beer at xzone on the way home.

[Zeraph 24]

oh,,i,ll give a report back when i barfine from another establishment tonight ,hopefully the process is a lot less complicated..i,ll see if first in line means something there, and i won,t be waiting till late in the nite to get the cc barfine rate. might even call in for a beer at xzone on the way home.

 

I hope you have a hard time finding a bar that decide who the girls should go with.

 

A girl should be able to change her mind if she sees a better customer.

 

If xzone is the kind a bar that forces girls to go with someone they doesn't want to go with than I will not visit the place on my upcoming trip.

The girls are prostitutes, but they should still have a say in whom they sell their bodies to.

Edited April 17, 2012 by Zeraph

[misteregg 709]

Shenzahau. Hi mate. Pop in today and discuss this with me. I think I know who you are, so we'll try and sort this out for you.

Cheers

Phil

[shenzhenau 0]

yes i saw you today phill,,i asked you how you got on with what i saw one of your staff do to that french guy when his back was turned,as i reported to you when i saw it happen on the said night,,i told you the exact time it happened and where,and told you to go check your survellance cameras,,petty theft is pretty low in my books,,but as you said to me tonight you are not willing to do anything about it as the guy never said anything,,,a bit hard for the guy to see it when his back was turned to the incedent.. seems this bar has no morals... and on the night i was 100%sober ,you decide whos telling the truth..and yes i told phill i,d speak up tonight and he was not impressed,,seems his job means more to him than honesty.

[misteregg 709]

Shenzhanu.

I spoke to you for over 30 minutes today and I will repeat what I said to you in our conversation.

 

I will speak to the customer who you feel was a victim of theft next time he comes into the bar, which he hasn't. I will also speak to the member of staff concerned who didn't work today, and then make a decision about how I will respond.

 

Sorry that you feel that you have to attack my integrity in a public forum on the first day you registered as a user. There are many BM's who would, I hope, disagree with you on this particular point.

 

Pop into X Zone again and I'll try and make you a bit happier.

Phil

Edited April 17, 2012 by misteregg

[Evil Penevil 7,628]

 

A girl should be able to change her mind if she sees a better customer.

 

....

 

The girls are prostitutes, but they should still have a say in whom they sell their bodies to.

 

I agree 100%. It's totally understandable that girls often prefer to go with regular customers than take chances with unknown customers.

 

Evil

[shenzhenau 0]

the said person was working tonight phil..get off your ass and look at the video tape.man up....

yes the girls free to do what she wants but why didnt the guy pay the $600 baht barfine ,he waited 3 hours and paid 400baht..i suggest all guys visiting this establishment do the same and get a girl and wait to 1.30am.. as phil told me tonight he had no problem with that.

[MM 6,562]

There is a bar review section in the members' area that is more suitable for the issues being brought up by shenzhenau.

 

As of now, non-members are not allowed to post in this forum.

 

shenzhenau, if you want to continue this discussion, apply for membership, and I will split this discussion off into the review section.

 

My thoughts as to what you have said thus far...

 

It's not really your business if another customer bar fines a girl you've been talking to. She is free to do what she wants.

 

It's not your business if he waits until the barfine is a lower price...apparently you waited too.

 

It's not your business to make accusations against the staff for something you think you observed.

 

It's not your business to tell the manager to take time to review CCTV records to prove what you think you saw without being a party to the group in which whatever it was occurred, when no complaint was issued by the alleged injured party.

 

Phil has way more patience than I do.

[teelack 9,631]

There is a bar review section in the members' area that is more suitable for the issues being brought up by shenzhenau.

 

As of now, non-members are not allowed to post in this forum.

 

shenzhenau, if you want to continue this discussion, apply for membership, and I will split this discussion off into the review section.

 

My thoughts as to what you have said thus far...

 

It's not really your business if another customer bar fines a girl you've been talking to. She is free to do what she wants.

 

It's not your business if he waits until the barfine is a lower price...apparently you waited too.

 

It's not your business to make accusations against the staff for something you think you observed.

 

It's not your business to tell the manager to take time to review CCTV records to prove what you think you saw without being a party to the group in which whatever it was occurred, when no complaint was issued by the alleged injured party.

 

Phil has way more patience than I do.

 

I realise that you dont actually need more ticks but I gave you one for this response. IMHO this is the best reply to any thread that I have seen from you.

[xzone nev 79]

I hope you have a hard time finding a bar that decide who the girls should go with.

 

A girl should be able to change her mind if she sees a better customer.

 

If xzone is the kind a bar that forces girls to go with someone they doesn't want to go with than I will not visit the place on my upcoming trip.

The girls are prostitutes, but they should still have a say in whom they sell their bodies to.

 

Let me assure personally as the owner of this club I spoke to the girl in question that night and she did want to go with this customer. In x zone we do not force girls to take customers this is their choice. We respect that our girls have the right to say no even if we loose a customer then so be it.

 

These girls are my assets as are my customers so the rules apply equally. If a customer is not happy with his selection we have done in the past and will continue in the future to correct the sitiuation.

 

In regards to your comments about my manager . Phil has 100 percent of my support and confidence in how he conducted him self in this situation.

 

For the record I spoke to you on Sunday night and even introduced you to one of our very popular girls you declined to bar fine her ( your choice)

 

I offered you free use of the VIP room you declined.

 

I personally spoke to the girl in question she was not interested and was for some for reason scared of you she would not tell me why. This girl barfines most nights so in my view she had a reason known to her and maybe you why her did not want to sit with you.

 

In fact she sat with me after that for the next two hours while you were in the club when she was not dancing( I do not bar fine my girls) so no chance of a bar fine from me.

 

My service staff know the rule on any form of stealing or ripping customers off ( fired on the spot if proven). We have recieved no compliants from any customers now or in the past under my ownership.

 

Lastly Phil is more polite than I will be > consider yourself banned from xzone Shenzhanu. I will instruct my security of my decision. I will not have my staff accused off stealing nor my manager of acting unproffessionally as a means to satify someones ego because they were rejected by one of my girls.

Edited April 18, 2012 by xzone nev

[Zeraph 24]

We respect that our girls have the right to say no even if we loose a customer then so be it.

 

 

I'm glad to hear that. Haven't been in xzone since the change of owner, but I will give it a visit in June and check it out. If it is anything like the old xzone im sure i'll have a blast there once again.

 

Peace!

[xzone nev 79]

I'm glad to hear that. Haven't been in xzone since the change of owner, but I will give it a visit in June and check it out. If it is anything like the old xzone im sure i'll have a blast there once again.

 

Peace!

 

Look forward to your visit . We like to think that we are just as good as before if not improved.

[firth1974 2,659]

I think I must of missed something on this thread. I presume that those posts have now been deleted?

[Evil Penevil 7,628]

My service staff know the rule on any form of stealing or ripping customers off ( fired on the spot if proven). We have recieved no compliants from any customers now or in the past under my ownership.

 

Lastly Phil is more polite than I will be > consider yourself banned from xzone Shenzhanu. I will instruct my security of my decision. I will not have my staff accused off stealing nor my manager of acting unproffessionally as a means to satify someones ego because they were rejected by one of my girls.

 

 

It's refreshing to see a bar owner stand up in this manner for his employees, especially the girls. Your action encourages me to visit X-Zone more often.

 

It's pretty clear what happened. Shenzhenau got knocked back, but expected X-Zone's management to force the girl to go him. When that didn't happen, he tried to use Pattaya Talk to cause difficulties for your bar and its employees. It's just one more unfortunate example of a customer fabricating a report to try to get revenge against a bar or girl.

 

I'm always suspicious of any new BM whose first post is to slam or pressure a business. Plus, Shenzhenau posts didn't make much sense. I knew he was leaving out a lot in his description of what happened.

 

Happy Songkran!

 

Evil

Edited April 18, 2012 by Evil Penevil

[xzone nev 79]

 

It's refreshing to see a bar owner stand up in this manner for his employees, especially the girls. Your action encourages me to visit X-Zone more often.

 

It's pretty clear what happened. Shenzhenau got knocked back, but expected X-Zone's management to force the girl to go him. When that didn't happen, he tried to use Pattaya Talk to cause difficulties for your bar and its employees. It's just once more unfortunate example of a customer fabricating a report to try to get revenge against a bar or girl.

 

I'm always suspicious of any new BM whose first post is to slam or pressure a business. Plus, Shenzhenau posts didn't make much sense. I knew he was leaving out a lot in his description of what happened.

 

Happy Songkran!

 

Evil

 

Thanks yes I agree if you have a problem in the bar let us know do not make up stories. My girls do a great job I do not think I could drink every night like they do then turn up to work all smiles againthe next day after day. Yes they are alot younger than me but still not easy.

 

Happy Song kran.

[Gabor 296]

I agree 100%. It's totally understandable that girls often prefer to go with regular customers than take chances with unknown customers.

 

Evil

 

Agree.... happened with me from the both sides, no any harm.... however Shenzenau has no reason to moan... he only negotiated, not barfined her.... the barfine is the only one stamp on the agreement... and still not 100% until he dragged her out from the bar.... happened with me also, the bar paid me back the barfine, because of her decision..... no problems, I was the stupid one to spending my time with her in the same bar....to pay her other ladydrinks and ordering more drinks for myself...my best advice: barfine her and leave the bar with her as soon as possible....

Edited April 18, 2012 by Gabor