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Boeing 737-Max. Another one down.

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3 minutes ago, MrMango said:

The seating is a function of the cabin width as well as the desires of the Airlines, not boeing or Airbus. 

And the pitch of he seats is the same, up to the customer.

Yes, but Boeing actively encourage upseating. I'm glad TG have stuck with 3+3+3 on their 777's, much more comfortable than being crammed in a 3+4+3.

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8 hours ago, capdagde said:

Everytime I see this thread title - almost every day - I think WTF?  ANOTHER ONE?

Without having to read the whole thread..... How many is it now?

Andy Cap

So you haven't grasped that this is an Internet forum and not a daily red-top?

The date posted appears under the title. 

Just the two so far.

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9 hours ago, TheFiend said:

Yes, but Boeing actively encourage upseating. I'm glad TG have stuck with 3+3+3 on their 777's, much more comfortable than being crammed in a 3+4+3.

Come on stop that BS!

Who gives a rats ass what Boeing "encourages"

Very knowable customers with huge engineering and marketing departments that are going to spend billions of US$ to buy Birds, do what they think is best, not what Boeing "recommends"

 

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6 hours ago, jacko said:

The date posted appears under the title.

Thank you for taking my post "at the first degree" - it was meant "at the second degree", but who, in all reality, is going to want to get in a 737 Max - THE NAME NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

I believe continuing to have a Thread Title ANOTHER ONE DOWN - suggests (inadvertently) that there will be a post every now and again announcing another crash.  I follow the news (although NOT in the redtops) but I might not have seen the news on TV on any given day and I DO think every day when I see the thread bumped "Has there been another crash - test flight or other reason?"

The power of words and the maxim of "If you say/read/hear something often enough, it becomes true", is real.

Captain Over and out (Airplane).

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5 hours ago, MrMango said:

Come on stop that BS!

Who gives a rats ass what Boeing "encourages"

Very knowable customers with huge engineering and marketing departments that are going to spend billions of US$ to buy Birds, do what they think is best, not what Boeing "recommends"

 

So you don't think Boeing Sales department pushes the economics of upseating.... more bums on seat means  more money

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5 hours ago, TheFiend said:

So you don't think Boeing Sales department pushes the economics of upseating.... more bums on seat means  more money

How does Boeing profit besides slightly more material and installation time?

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8 hours ago, TheFiend said:

So you don't think Boeing Sales department pushes the economics of upseating.... more bums on seat means  more money

I assume Boeing and its sales force does what any sales force does - Sells airplanes and they don't benefit by pushing the number of seats to a customer who doesn't want that. 

They are not selling to some rube, but to very sophisticated Corporations who know exactly what type of bird they want.

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Orders being cancelled and serious financial impact on Boeing.

https://news.yahoo.com/saudi-carrier-cancels-troubled-boeing-122101629.html

 

A Saudi airline canceling an order worth up to $5.9 billion in favor of a European rival of the U.S. manufacturer.

Flyadeal, the budget airline arm of Saudi Arabian Airlines Corp., ordered 30 A320neo jets from Airbus and took options on 20 more, meaning that its entire fleet will consist of planes from that company.

Officials with Indonesia's Garuda said in March that they were canceling the remaining 49 of a 50-jet Max order. Published reports suggest the airline and Boeing are in talks, however, and Boeing still lists the last 49 Garuda orders on its website.

Similarly, the owner of Lion Air — the Indonesia airline whose Max jet was involved in the first fatal crash in October — vowed to cancel. Boeing still lists the airline's 187 unfilled orders as active.

Dozens of lawsuits have been filed by families of those aboard the downed planes. Boeing will likely have to compensate airlines that already own Max planes — nearly 400 around the world — which are not expected to be allowed in back into the air any time soon.

 

 

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Hi,

The problem Boeing, and the airlines who order this version, have is will people be prepared to fly on it ? I would try avoid it. The 737 was a great plane but this version is problematic.

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On 7/10/2019 at 1:53 AM, wacmedia said:

Hi,

The problem Boeing, and the airlines who order this version, have is will people be prepared to fly on it ? I would try avoid it. The 737 was a great plane but this version is problematic.

I agree. I would avoid it also.

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6 hours ago, midlifecrisis said:

I agree. I would avoid it also.

Cake or Death (again)!  Change the name or use something other than Aspartame in the fuel....

If they called it Zero would it remind Murcans of Pearl Harbo(u)r?   Too soon?

Maybe Zero Zen to with a Zanax in every Zeat?

Zero Max.JPG

Mitsubishi Zero Zen........ "chillax to the max pax"!

Zero Zen.JPG

Andy "We're DOOMED" Cap

 

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On 7/12/2019 at 12:56 AM, midlifecrisis said:

I agree. I would avoid it also.

Hi,

They are thinking about it as well.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-max-ordered-by-ryanair-undergoes-name-change

A Boeing 737 Max due to be delivered to Ryanair has had the name Max dropped from the livery, further fuelling speculation that the manufacturer and airlines will seek to rebrand the troubled plane once it is given the all clear to fly again.

Photos have emerged of a 737 Max in Ryanair colours outside Boeing’s manufacturing hub, with the designation 737-8200 – instead of 737 Max – on the nose. The 737-8200 is a type name for the aircraft that is used by aviation agencies.

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5 hours ago, wacmedia said:

Hi,

They are thinking about it as well.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-max-ordered-by-ryanair-undergoes-name-change

A Boeing 737 Max due to be delivered to Ryanair has had the name Max dropped from the livery, further fuelling speculation that the manufacturer and airlines will seek to rebrand the troubled plane once it is given the all clear to fly again.

Photos have emerged of a 737 Max in Ryanair colours outside Boeing’s manufacturing hub, with the designation 737-8200 – instead of 737 Max – on the nose. The 737-8200 is a type name for the aircraft that is used by aviation agencies.

That only makes sense. Marketing 101 would say don't push something that portrays a bad image.

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On 7/17/2019 at 4:27 PM, MrMango said:

That only makes sense. Marketing 101 would say don't push something that portrays a bad image.

Hi,

I've flown lots of times on 737. Whatever they call this new version, I will avoid.

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