Who are your neighbours?

[soisauce]

The other day I was scanning down the list of condos for sale in Pattaya when I thought to myself "I wonder who the neighbours are"? After all it’s not like buying a place back home. Here you can ask the estate agent what the predominant population consist of Ie Indians, Germans, Italian, French, Russians or heavy metal fans etc I notice there’s a Turkish quarter near Walking Street and I have heard there’s a lot of Germans that hang out near big C and that Naklua is predominantly Russian. My question is for example, If I am English, it would possibly be an advantage to buy an apartment in a condominium that is occupied by mainly British people and hat maybe other nationalities think this way too. so - which condos are predominantly occupied by Indians, Germans, French, Italians, Russians

 

 

[DrPat]

Welcome aboard SoiSauce. Sorry I can’t help, but I would also be interested in the answer from anyone who can. I too would also like to avoid living next door to any heavy metal fans, as I’m not keen on leather jackets.

[soisauce]

Welcome aboard SoiSauce. Sorry I can’t help, but I would also be interested in the answer from anyone who can. I too would also like to avoid living next door to any heavy metal fans, as I’m not keen on leather jackets.

I was thinking on the lines of someone who played the electric guitar or the drums, but I guess leather jackets can count too haha. Cheers matey, have a great day

[VPI78]

The other day I was scanning down the list of condos for sale in Pattaya when I thought to myself "I wonder who the neighbours are"? After all its not like buying a place back home. Here you can ask the estate agent what the predominant population consist of Ie Indians, Germans, Italian, French, Russians or heavy metal fans etc I notice theres a Turkish quarter near Walking Street and I have heard theres a lot of Germans that hang out near big C and that Naklua is predominantly Russian. My question is for example, If I am English, it would possibly be an advantage to buy an apartment in a condominium that is occupied by mainly British people and hat maybe other nationalities think this way too. so - which condos are predominantly occupied by Indians, Germans, French, Italians, Russians

What makes you think Naklua is predominately Ruskies or even Ukranians?

 

My informal walkaround census is Naklua is still predominately Scandanavians and Germans.

 

Lots of Scandanavians, Germans, Ruskies, Ukranians, and even some Brits, Frogs, Wops, Aussies, Kiwis, Loonies and Septics in Jomtien. Try it, you will like it.

[jacko]

What makes you think Naklua is predominately Ruskies or even Ukranians?

 

My informal walkaround census is Naklua is still predominately Scandanavians and Germans.

 

Lots of Scandanavians, Germans, Ruskies, Ukranians, and even some Brits, Frogs, Wops, Aussies, Kiwis, Loonies and Septics in Jomtien. Try it, you will like it.

I was told that Wong Amat is predominantly Russians by someone who lives that way.

[MM]

 

What makes you think Naklua is predominately Ruskies or even Ukranians?

 

 

My informal walkaround census is Naklua is still predominately Scandanavians and Germans.

 

 

Lots of Scandanavians, Germans, Ruskies, Ukranians, and even some Brits, Frogs, Wops, Aussies, Kiwis, Loonies and Septics in Jomtien. Try it, you will like it.

I was told that Wong Amat is predominantly Russians by someone who lives that way.

 

As is (reportedly) Centara Resort and the Pullman, both very upscale hotels.

[short]

I wonder if the Russians will start backing back home after recent events.

[ZARIS]

the answer here is fairly simple. Find an area you think you might like to live.Find an apartment to RENT int that area.Live there and check it out.Take your time.If you like it then look around to buy.Whats the hurry?

 

Also remember the propensity for certain peoples to expand their area.Say you like area A, which is next to area B. Area B is dominated by indians.Theres a reasonable chance that over time the indians will spread into area A.

 

take your time, its a big decision and an expensive one to get out of if you make a mistake.

[Bullfrog]

I was told that Wong Amat is predominantly Russians by someone who lives that way.

 

I have sold my 2 condos in that area recently.

 

When I bought off plan around 10 years ago the chart on the wall indicated a good mix of British, German and Scandinavians. At the time it was mainly Scandinavian in the Wong Amat area with more Germans as you got nearer to and on Naklua rd.

 

I sold 1 condo to a Russian couple and the other to a Chinese couple. When I asked the condo manager she confirmed that it seemed to be a pretty common thing for that area nowadays.

 

Walking around that area I can definately confirm that it is mainly Russians living or holidaying in that area.

[ZARIS]

I have sold my 2 condos in that area recently.

 

When I bought off plan around 10 years ago the chart on the wall indicated a good mix of British, German and Scandinavians. At the time it was mainly Scandinavian in the Wong Amat area with more Germans as you got nearer to and on Naklua rd.

 

I sold 1 condo to a Russian couple and the other to a Chinese couple. When I asked the condo manager she confirmed that it seemed to be a pretty common thing for that area nowadays.

 

Walking around that area I can definately confirm that it is mainly Russians living or holidaying in that area.

hey Bullfrog- how did it all work out finacially? Profit or loss?

[nkped]

I wonder if the Russians will start backing back home after recent events.

Only if Thailand joins the Euro zone.

[bigmick]

I wonder if the Russians will start backing back home after recent events.

 

 

I would think whats happened in Cyprus is just small change to them.

 

I live in Wongamat (not for much longer as we have just sold) and it is full of Russians (wealthy ones) on holiday and they are buying up condos like they are going out of fashion. Just past my building they are building 3 more huge projects with about 3000 more condos. Most are sold at circa 70% to Russians. When they built South Point which is just further back along soi 18 from 16, a Russian tour company bought one entire tower of 480 units and an average 6 million baht per unit. Soi 18 and 16 are full of Russian restaurants and even have a money changer that will only take Russian money, most restaurants have menus in Russian only (not even Thai ) Russian bands playing Russian music in Russian restaurants. The baht buses are charging 2000 baht to take a couple from Wongamat to WS.

 

 

The (wealthy) Russians are here to stay

[Gary]

I have no idea who my neighbors are and I don't care. I mind my own business and they pretty much mind their own business.

[Bullfrog]

hey Bullfrog- how did it all work out finacially? Profit or loss?

 

Overall profit mainly due to the exchange rates and rental income.

[aussiechic]

I would think whats happened in Cyprus is just small change to them.

 

I live in Wongamat (not for much longer as we have just sold) and it is full of Russians (wealthy ones) on holiday and they are buying up condos like they are going out of fashion. Just past my building they are building 3 more huge projects with about 3000 more condos. Most are sold at circa 70% to Russians. When they built South Point which is just further back along soi 18 from 16, a Russian tour company bought one entire tower of 480 units and an average 6 million baht per unit. Soi 18 and 16 are full of Russian restaurants and even have a money changer that will only take Russian money, most restaurants have menus in Russian only (not even Thai ) Russian bands playing Russian music in Russian restaurants. The baht buses are charging 2000 baht to take a couple from Wongamat to WS.

why would you want to go on holidays and do every thing the same.

[Bullfrog]

why would you want to go on holidays and do every thing the same.

 

So how many Russians are basking in heat at home right now??

 

 

.....and how many bars play predominantly English language music and how many restuarents supply "English/Western"? food?

 

...how many German..or even Aussie places are there....

 

I don't understand it when the Ruskies are critisised for wanting to have their own food and music available as a choice whereas the rest of us expect it....as a choice!!

Edited March 26, 2013 by Bullfrog

[Bullfrog]

I would think whats happened in Cyprus is just small change to them.

 

I live in Wongamat (not for much longer as we have just sold) and it is full of Russians (wealthy ones) on holiday and they are buying up condos like they are going out of fashion. Just past my building they are building 3 more huge projects with about 3000 more condos. Most are sold at circa 70% to Russians. When they built South Point which is just further back along soi 18 from 16, a Russian tour company bought one entire tower of 480 units and an average 6 million baht per unit. Soi 18 and 16 are full of Russian restaurants and even have a money changer that will only take Russian money, most restaurants have menus in Russian only (not even Thai ) Russian bands playing Russian music in Russian restaurants. The baht buses are charging 2000 baht to take a couple from Wongamat to WS.

 

 

The (wealthy) Russians are here to stay

 

...and have you stopped to browse the menu prices lately?? I used to love the Red Ant but it has plunged downhill over the past few years with quality and service whilst prices have increased..

 

I used to be able to go there and not get charged corkage for my BYO wine purely because of the money I spent in there..It used to be family run with a convivial atmosphere...even the "scary" ladyboy was fun to chat and drink with...except when she crossed her legs wearing that short red skirt......

[soisauce]

Poor old Ruskies! This is not about Russians or any one nationality, but about whos living where now. I know people move around but at the moment I hear conflicting stoires Ie The occupants of the Amazon Resort, Park Lane and Pardise Park are nearly all Russian owned. If so is this beacuse "Matrix propertie" is Russian owned too?

 

Would an estate agent tell me the percentage of a perticular developments population? As some one mentioned 70% owned by Russian, 20% British 10%French and 5% Irish owned for example?

 

You have made some interesting coments and observations, at this time I am not sure if they are all useful but please continue

[harro1]

I don't know about who owns but Park lane would be about 80% Russian residents. A lot of them just on short stays.

[js007]

If I were buying a condo, I wouldn't care so much who my neighbors were, so long as they didn't act like idiots. In other words, no loud music at 4AM, etc.

[papillon]

Poor old Ruskies! This is not about Russians or any one nationality, but about whos living where now. I know people move around but at the moment I hear conflicting stoires Ie The occupants of the Amazon Resort, Park Lane and Pardise Park are nearly all Russian owned. If so is this beacuse "Matrix propertie" is Russian owned too?

 

Would an estate agent tell me the percentage of a perticular developments population? As some one mentioned 70% owned by Russian, 20% British 10%French and 5% Irish owned for example?

 

You have made some interesting coments and observations, at this time I am not sure if they are all useful but please continue

At least 51% will be Thai owned.

[jacko]

why would you want to go on holidays and do every thing the same.

They lie on the beach in the hot sunshine in Moscow?

[jacko]

At least 51% will be Thai owned.

Can't some of those be owned by a Thai company?

[MM]

 

At least 51% will be Thai owned.

Can't some of those be owned by a Thai company?

Yes, indeed, as you know very well!

[jacko]

Yes, indeed, as you know very well!

I phrased it not to be confrontational with Mr Volatile...... but of course we now know that is is quite possible for over 49% to be non-Thai owned.