teelack

At least I was trying to offer some real advice to boardies. The question of where to get a decent hair cut comes up on a regular basis. When I did discover a place that not only did a good job, was well located and where you could also get a massage I felt that this was newsworthy. To just tell people that they are LDOP's for spending so much for a haircut is just your normal thread knocking presumably because your bored. I try to be positive but if you want too only offer negative comments then I guess its your right but it hardly adds much to the thread.

......and if you want a 60 baht haircut no one is stopping you and in fact no one really cares.

Thanks all for the comments. Whilst it is clear that the place has had a makeover it seems also clear that the management and staff leave a lot to be desired and I will not risk my holiday staying there. The place that I have in mind will cost me 250 a day more but its tried and tested and I know that I will not be disapointed.

Shame that there isnt a real estate page on Pattaya Talk and it could have been of interest!

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Your right for once, WTF!

Thanks for the comments re the food however it was really the rooms and pool I was interested in. Seems to me that all rooms are the same size and fromnt the pool. Are there enough loungers? Are the rooms clean? Is the staff good value?

Hi there guys. I realise that there is some comment re this place on another thread for the AA Hotel. I would however like some feed back about this place as it looks interesting and I was thinking about it for the next trip. Sadly the reviews on Tripadvisor are too mixed to be of value. From excellent to total crap. Any thoughts? http://www.thehaven-hotel.com/rooms.php Thanks

In my case there was no discussion or argument. The whole thing was fixesd almost immediately. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say that it was possibly a genuine mistake.

Hi there Ron. It looked a great do and that half the Cherry Bar turned up. In fact there was some of the Pattaya royalty there as well by the look of it. My birthday one day before was about 1% as interesting!

Jacko, without trying to hi-jack the thread, you bring up a good point. I also sent my tab back to them for some crazy price that they had put on it. I guess this is a warning to all members to keep vigilant there (and I am sure other places.)

Nev-Steve. Well done for stirring people up. We need issues like this to get us going. I hope that you are also keeping an eye on the other threads here concerning X Zone. A couple of points. Re this statement. Lady drinks at 140 is not expensive if you think it is then never come to KL as you will pay 250 baht per drink. It seems I will never please all but then I did not expect too. Those that think prices are high should read the the sign on the wall accross the way from Xzone to see what key money costs plus rent then staff. When did Pattaya becomea Muslim country with a sin tax? Silly analogy. I am sure that the Norwegians pay more for their drinks so why not mention Oslo while you are about it. As a general rule telling people that they are cheap (when they are patently not) is really no way to run a business. All you have managed to do is to tell us all that you are 100% right in all that you say and do and that "WE" are 100% wrong. One other thing that I believe that you will also be aware of by now and that is that the X Zone tends to be a place that takes off later in the evening. In fact happy hours etc will have little impact with most of the serious punters. I still think that your general attitude towards your clientelle needs a tidy up and perhaps the odd confession that you are not infallible would gain you a few friends even.

Hi there again Nev/Steve Frostie has said it all. I usually drink draught because it likes me more than fizzy/higher alc. ales but I am 100% on side with those that say that you are cutting your thoats by pricing yourself out of the game. What you seem to fail to appreciate is that people like me put a hell of a lot of money across the bar with bar fines and 1000 baht plus tabs on a regular basis. In addition dbar crawls can deliver up to say 30 mongers at a time. In addition to that we also are savvy enough to know that the Internet can be very influential in this day and age and it will make or break a business. If you dont believe me take a leaf out of the PBG's book. This is a difficult place for many to find but it sold itself a to a great degree on the net. It just goes from strength to strength. No bar fines here and a SML is about 75 baht. The PBG not only has to get the prices right but they also know that of the up to 1000 meals a day that if they sell one that makes someone ill it could be a disaster because the net is so powerful. Despite all of this it just keeps growing because it knows how to look after its customers. Look in the mirror Nev-Steve and ask the same question of yourself.

As recently stated on another thread your new prices are over the top and until you address these I for one will not be returning.

Just thought that I would share this with you. I decided that I needed to tidy up the hair and looked around for a place that I felt would be "Farang Friendly." I did stumble onto a hairdresser and I am happy to share with you. There is an arcade at the Queen Pattaya Hotel. This is Opposite Tops Supermarket in Pattaya Klang. There are a couple of shops at the rear of the arcade and this is where they are situated. I felt that the lady hairdresser gave me a good cut for 200 baht. I know that there is cheaper but I was satisfied. I noticed a curtained off area at the back of the shop and this is the massage area. She asked me if I wanted one. Why not, she's a pleasant lady. She is good at what she does and the door is locked till its all over. It was a straight massage but you never know as I didnt ask for extras. The place is clean and spacious and she tells me that she is looking for a boyfriend (now there's a challenge!)

Nev, Nev Nev! dont get greedy. The tab on the other hand... was very high. 150 baht for San Mig Light, and 130 baht for tiger This is over the top and you need a re-think ---IMHO!

It totally fits with the thread when you go for a wander around the Arab area of Pattaya. Have you noticed those pious Arabs all with bottles of booze on the tables? Have you noted them with the Pattaya bar girls? Its OK for the men to flout the code but not for the women. I usually walk through Covent Garden each night and then through the drumming plaza. I once was silly enough to point a camera at the area and was quickly told that it was a no no. Go to Walking Street and every other tourist has a camera out but point it on an Arab as he is breaking the sharia law and you are risking life and limb. I am not anti anybody other than anti hypocrites and there are a lot of them in Pattaya but I have to put the Arabs at the top of the list.

As far as go go bars are concerned I wouldnt even bother other than the Champagne. I personally have never been into a good afternoon go go other than this one. For a cheap dring as well as a POSSIBLE bj, the Candy Bar in Soi LK is now reopened with 2 beers for 80 baht.

I think you did quite well considering that the location is good and that you have use of both the pool and the gym at the LK. I have indeed heard of some who dropped in and partook of the breakfast next door as well. There is a caveat to this and that is that the smaller rooms are indeed small and I believe that only the room you had or similar would be worth considering.

Its always sad to see an institution go out of buiness however I am like some of the others here and never got into it. Isnt it strange how we can feel at home in some places and not in others. I have no idea why this is but it has never been on my list of must do and see placs in Pattaya. Whatever, best wishes to the management for their future ventures.

I will admit to actually liking this place. Some two or three years ago I partook of the 'cabaret' in the middle of the room but havent one so since that time. I have in fact met some really nice ladies there and barfined a number of them. There have been a number of ladies that just dance there and dont do the raunchy stuff. There have in fat been a few that dont barfine at all. Best of luck with this place.

Totally agree except that they do this through choice and not because they are repressed or second class citizens. Also the local councils could rule tomorrow that you must wear a shirt and it could be enforced but they coule not bring in a law saying that face coverings have to be done away with.This would lead to violence almost immediately.

I think I saw an advert for them and that drinks started at 300 baht. I went to have a look but realised that this was just another of those Russian places like the Polo and Windmill so gave it a big big miss.

I note that the first response for some is to play the Muslim card. For me its all about women being kept in their place which is at the bottom of the heap, irrespective of what some publicity would like you to believe. I just totally hate these things call them burka, chador or hijab. They are just monsterous and I hope that the idiots that bring their ladies here in them suffer from what they have them to put up with. I am sure that these religeous zealots are thrilled with what they see in Pattaya. I also hope that they go home and tell the rest of the zealots to give Pattaya a miss.

Thanks for the update. I usually stay at the Sabai Inn but avoided it last month and moved to the Sabai Resort. I was worried about the noise but I have to report that the Resort was fine and I would stay there again. Low season rate via Internet was 1050 baht for superior room which is not as superior as that in the Sabai Inn so I will be moving back.

They were using it in June as a centre for functions for the entire Sabai staffs. I make the assumption that they must run into the hundreds now as they are way and above any other hoteliers in the area. Perhaps that is what they intend to use it for.