Zeus

From a comfort perspective, I prefer the 777. In economy(what I use), the 380 has narrower aisles. Plus on the 380 first floor, there is a noticeable space between most window seats and the bulkhead - which makes it next to impossible to lean against it with a pillow. Once you get past those differences they are largely the same. However, comfort is more dependent on the airline that outfitted the plane vs the plane itself. With one major difference - the A380 carries a lot more passengers(about 500 on CZ vs 320-350 for the 777). That impacts deplaning and immigration. Economy

OK so now that I have taken the trip, I figured I would do a quick review of my experience and China Southern (CZ). Most importantly, all four flights (LAX-CAN, CAN-BKK, BKK-CAN, CAN-LAX) were on time or even departed a bit early. This was a pleasant surprise as when I spot checked the flights before I left, the CAN-LAX leg was always running late in August. Perhaps the jet stream lined up better with the flight path better, as we got in to LAX 40 minutes early. Having on time flights is the number one pro that I could ask for. All airlines have late flights, however I was fortunate

I got LAX -BKK for $568 on China Southern and did a separate thread on it. They fly a A380 out of LAX and has a short 2-3 hr layover in CAN. It has an 11 am arrival, which is great for me. It will be my first time in a A380, so I look forward to it. We will see how it all goes. But at the end of the day it is getting me to Pattaya at a decent price. I did Air China last year at about the same time. While the flights were on time, the layovers were too long (5 & 8 hrs), but the price was great at $447(but you can't get that this year). Zeus

Some things are already happening (for better or worse): Chinese carriers are undercutting the main US carriers (and probably affecting others - ie Thai etc). The decreased flights from Delta mentioned above are a prime casualty. Low cost international flights to west coast US cities from China carriers (Air China, China Southern, China Eastern, China Air, etc) offer fares that US carriers can't compete with and maintain profit margins. There are several reasons for this, but China is winning. I am a prime example of an affected consumer. I flew LAX-BKK on US carriers (typically De

Sad to see it go. It was always a great place for a basic breakfast w/coffee at a low price. I guess they did not make enough baht. I'll have to find a new go-to place. An excuse for trying some more places! Zeus

This will be my first time on China Southern. I really like the schedule (and price). Last year I flew Air China around the same time in September - Better price($447) then, but with huge layovers(8.5hrs & 5.5hrs). This China Southern trip has connection times of 3 hrs outbound and 2 hrs return. Just about right for an international flight. Air China had bad reviews but I had a pretty good experience on my trip last year (except for the expected layovers). My post & review from that trip: http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/topic/66246-lax-bkk-with-ca-447-all-in/ D

I got a great deal on a LAX - BKK flight on China Southern for September flights. US $568 RT. I love the morning arrival time too. It gives me a chance to rest a bit before heading out in the evening. I think there are competititve fares on Air China, but the connection times are not as good. Grab them while you can if you are thinking of traveling in that time frame. Zeus

Just a followup to this post. I flew my inbound legs of this flight and there were no real issues. Both flights were on time, leaving almost exactly when they should have. Now this really surprised me as most of my pre flight research showed that the departure times at Beijing showed that Air china averaged being 30-40 minutes late. I believe they record the actual takeoff time at Beijing rather than the departure time(gate push back). That being said the gate push back was 5 minutes early, There was a decent wait for the takeoff (20 min), which might explain the delays that show u

I've reserved my airport pickup for my September visit. I'll let everyone know how it goes. Looking forward to my first trip back in 2 years.

Yeah that eight hour layover is going to be a bitch. They had an inbound with only 4.5 hr delay, but it got in at midnight. This option has me leaving at midnight,but getting in at 6:30pm. I'll put up with an extra 4 hrs in a layover to get in at a better time (and sooner too!). That really salvages one night in Pattaya. A man has got to have priorities..... BigD was right too.... My fare is now pricing at $100 more after only a few days, so it was an act fast kind of deal. There still are other days/itineraries at $471, which is only a small increase. I'm glad I pulled the tri

Ran across this fare looking for a Sept flight to Thailand.... Air China $447 LAX -BKK. If you search Expedia it comes up as $477 but going directly to their website gets you the $447. The actual fare is only $120, the rest is taxes etc. I haven't seen fares this low since the SARS scare, and they were about the same then. In part this made my decision to return to the LOS much easier. In any case I am in and ready to go in September. The countdown begins..... I know... You get what you pay for and CA has mixed reviews(I read the thread by ballbag on China air - I think

I used the free wiFi at Narita. works good. I could check all email, forums, etc. I had 3 hours to burn so it helped spend the time.

Prices dropped for some of the USA flights too. Delta LAX-BKK RT $789, LAS -BKK $854 for OCt - Nov mid week flights. Both are normally in the $1300 range. I am sure other cities are seeing reductions as well. I snagged a flight for late November. I can't wait!

Good site. I bookmarked it as well. Now they just need one that focuses on a local area (like Pattaya or Jomtien)

Thanks Whitney. It is always great to get up to date info from first hand experience. If you don't mind I have a few questions: 1) How were the BKK immigration lines at that arrival time (10:50am). Long wait or did it go smoothly? 2) How was the food that you did get? I don't have high expectations, but would be interested in your impressions. Sounds like a good flight to carry some of your own munchies on. 3) It was good to hear about the "no hassle" transfer in CAN for USA passport holders. Do you have any other impressions about the CAN airport? Cleanliness, restrooms,

For emotional vids this one is the best for me (but a bit long)

OK - after a bit of research: The seat pitch(32") is a bit better than Delta (at 31-32"), with an identical width (17.2"). Data per www.seatguru.com . I have flown to BKK on Delta before in economy with no problem, so from a seat perspective I think I can expect the same. As to the times, the transpacific portion of the flight is 15hr 20 min LAX-CAN. While this is a longer flight than changing in NRT (12 hr), I think I can deal with it. Try to sleep. Any flight to BKK is going to be long. Then a 3.5 hr layover - plenty to deal with delays, but not excessivly long. Then a 3 hr

LAX - BKK $387 + $387 Tax = $774 USD for a round trip flight. That is the best I have seen from the USA/LAX in a looooong time. Most fares are $1000 or higher. The arrival/departure times are good too. Getting in at 10:50 am sounds great (I am used to getting in around midnight). And the 3:30 pm departure beats a 5:30 am flight on Delta. I also haven't flown in the A380 planes. The trans-pacific portion of the flight uses that plane so it should be fun. Maybe they need to cut the pricing to fill that big plane!! The price comes up at $817 if you search on Travelocity, but this f

I'll add my 2 cents worth too - but for VT5. In 2012, I planned a trip for a month, and the best long term place Dancewatchers had was VT5 22-970 1 Bd Penthouse room. Most of VT6 was booked. I think this was a blessing in disguise as it was a great room and was only 32k baht. It blew away any hotel room I could have had. Everything was handled great. I was even checked in at 4: 30 am in the morning, due to my flight into BKK being late. Two ladies were waiting in my room to check me in. Everything went as expected, which was refreshing. My only concern was having to take the baht

This was on the news after an intern confirmed. Later retracted. I'm guessing he'll be fired. Not in the best of taste, but you had to give it a chuckle.

I was looking at this too. The 787 is also scheduled to fly the LAX/NRT route, flight numbers UA32 & UA33. The DEN flights are running now. The LAX ones start in August. Now I just need to get my plans together.

Hmmmmm.... Looks like you are a Delta/ex-NW flier like myself. I agree that the 60k tickets are gone(I think 80k is now the min for economy), but good deals are out there if you look,are flexible, and have some patience. I just booked RT to the LOS on Delta for 120k FFMs but it was in business class. I have no "elite" status, and I needed to use all my FFMs to get it, but well worth a ticket that prices out around $6000 USD. Zeus

Great view! I like others haven't seen that view of the airport. And I just realized that I have only seen the airport at night. I have always flown Delta/Northwest into BKK, due to my frequent flier program. ie Arrive BKK at midnight.... Leave at 6 am. Their flights have always been at those times (at least since 2000). Those were some good photos in the light of day. But the next time I will see it is in February.... at night again. But I still look forward to it! Zeus

As to the actual number of flights, I have flown Delta/Northwest to the LOS because that is where my FF miles are/were. Over the past 10 years, the pricing has been very good (it no longer is one of the best). But I really don't like the times (arrive at midnight, leave BKK at 6am). I prefer the Thai nonstop from LAX when I can get the flight at a decent price. No stops, and great times - leave late at night and arrive in the morning. As a lower cost alternative I like the EVA flights, but have never taken them. Zeus

Delta calls their top class "business elite", but it actually tickets as business or first. To be honest, the level of service is the same and is the best you are going to get on Delta. I am sure other (asian) airlines have better top service, but this is tons better than economy. My FF miles are also left over from work. I recently got laid off, so now with time available its off to the LOS. There's always a silver lining! But that's the last of my miles. I'll be in cattle class after this trip. As to the $86 tax, in the US we have to pay a small tax even if the flight is "